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A54224 The spirit of truth vindicated, against that of error & envy unseasonably manifested : in a late malicious libel, intituled, The spirit of the Quakers tryed, &c. / by a friend to righteousness and peace, W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1672 (1672) Wing P1375; ESTC R21576 102,800 151

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and for no other Reason and consequently that some Women may preach which I prove thus If the Apostle had Companions and Fellow-Labourers in the Gospel that were Women then we ought to believe that all Women as Women only were not by him denyed to speak in the Church But the Apostles had Female Fellow-Labourers in the Gospel therefore not all Women but some Women only are excluded That he had such Companions he himself is Witness I commend unto you Romans Ph●be our Sister which is a Servant of the Church which is at Cenchrea Great Priscilla and Aquila my Helpers in Christ Jesus Again Salute Tryphena and Tryphosa who labour in the Lord Salute the Beloved Persis which laboured much in the Lord who were all Women Aquila excepted Next If the Prophecy of Joel refer to the Times of the Gospel in which God promised To pour out of his Spirit on all Flesh and your Sons and your Daughters shall Prophecy c. as is remembred and so applyed by Peter when the holy Ghost was poured forth at Jerusalem then Women were not exempted as Women from the Gift of the Holy●Ghost and Prophesie thereby But it was never yet questioned by any that I know and therefore Women as Women are so far from being excluded that they are to partake of the Promise as well as Men. Again If Anna preached to the People in the Temple at Jerusalem the Glorious Day of Israel ' s Redemption as may be read in Luke and if Philip's four Daughters were Prophetesses and if Priscilla expounded to Apollo as well as her Husband the Way of God more perfectly even at that time when he was a Preacher among the People as may be read at large in the Acts then say I with good Reason Women as Women are not denyed by the Apostle to Teach and Instruct in the Wayes of God But the Scripture evidently proveth That such Women there have been and consequently Women as Women are not prohibited And methinks the Place urged by him against it clearly intimates as much For the Apostle is not treating in that Chapter who or what Sex shall Prophesie and what not but of that Order and Decency which such as Prophesie ought to observe For when he said You may all Prophesie one by 〈◊〉 if it had been asked Who Men or Women doubtless he would have answered All or every one provided any thing be revealed to you So that then this Prohibition of the Apostle extends only to their Disorder in the Church occasioned by their Ignorance which put them upon the proposing of their Doubts and Scruples unseasonably that is such of them as were Vnlearned and not an Anna a Priscilla a Tryphena a Tryphosa or a Beloved Persis who Preached Israel ' s Redemption and Expounded the Way of the Lord and were Fellow-Labourers in the Work and Gospel of Christ So then the words are to be read thus I permit not an Vnlearned or Ignorant Woman to speak in the Church and if she will learn any thing let it be at Home of her Husband for 't is a Shame that such a Person should be suffered to trouble the Church with her Vnseasonable and Vnlearned Questions And to this sense Grotius himself does more then encline as may be read in his Annotations upon this very place sayes he Intelligendum vero cum exceptione afflatus Prophetici diximus supra It is alwayes to be understood with an Exception to Prophetick Motions or Inspirations as we said before which implies a plain Contradiction to the Opinion of our Adversary who vainly supposeth That Women as Women are exempted Again he tels us That such Women are the Subjects of the Apostle's Discourse who being Ignorant and not well understanding what may have been spoken by the Teacher in the Congregation was not to interrupt the Speakers Ne interrumpant loquentes sed Mares Domus suae interrogent qui aut respondebunt exse aut consulent peritiores but ask their Husbands at Home who will either answer themselves or consult those who may be more experienced Thus much on this Particular and I believe enough to reconcile all sober minds to the serious Exhortations and Reproofs as well of Good and Holy Women as Men who are also Witnesses of his Resurrection who was Dead but is Alive and lives forever Scriptures Socinianiz'd I Shall now attend his Sophistication of several Scriptures in which his Displeasure against G. F. comes not from his ardent Love to any common Principles which he has hitherto seem'd to militate for but his great Regard to Socinianism both against G. F. and them The first is his Exception to G. F's Citation of that Scripture And have put on the New Man which is renewed in Knowledge after the Image of Him that created him where G. F. puts Them for Him making the Saints the Antecedent to Them whereas the New Man is the Antecedent to Him and shows that the New Man is created which G. F. is not willing to allow for he corrects his Adversary for saying The Light is a Creature which is to say Christ who is called the Light is here called a New Man and such a one as is created and consequently is not God but a Creature A Doctrine that well becomes our Adversary To which I Answer That the New Man who is there said to be created is put in opposition to the Old Man mention'd in the Verse before who is thus described by the Apostle But now you also put off all these Anger Wrath Malice Blasphemy Filthy Communication out of your Mouth Lye not one to another seeing that ye have put off the Old Man Which shews he meant by the Old man those Habits and Customs of Evil which were almost become Natural that they were before addicted to and consequently that the New Man was the inward Regeneration or New Creation of the Soul Mind and Spirit with the Inclinations and Affections thereof so that the Image of the New Man may be created or begotten in Believers and on that account be called the New Man but not that Christ Jesus is the created New Man For it is he by their own Principle That Creates all things New in the Heavenly World of the Gospel who having all Power begets his People into a New State renewing them in all Divine Knowledge after the Image or that they may be the Likeness of him that created him that is that Image for nothing can be renewed that was not lost but Christ was never lost to speak properly in our Adversary's sense as well as ours but the Image of Christ has been lost almost from the Foundation of the World Therefore it is not Christ but his Image that is renewed and anew created So that if G. F. did put Them for Him it is not false for to create them anew in his Image or a new Image in them is all one and the words will bear it that Christ creates
others for plain Scripture and would suggest because doth proceed is mentioned instead of is sent that he himself is Unscriptural He omits to tell the World what it was G. F. made that Demand for viz. to prove Three Distinct and Separate Persons in the Godhead Now whether there is the same Reason for the one as for the other I leave to all sober Men to judge yea to our Adversary himself if he dare be just 9thly His last Socinian Objection to G. F's Citation and Application of Scripture is this That whereas the Scripture sayes For this End Christ both dyed and rose and revived that He might be Lord both of the Dead and Living He sayes That he might be God both of the Dead and Living Also where the Scripture sayes Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly G. F. has it Let the Word of God dwell richly in you By all which it is easie to observe how averse he is from allowing Christ the least share in an Eternal Divinity making it his Business to abstract from every Scripture that may in the least Favour such a thing and imperiously rant it over us in the abusivest termes as Impostor Lyar False Prophet Forger void of all Reason with abundance of the like Complexion the proper Language of Brutish Malice and not a True Disciple But let us answer to his Objection If Christ be God over all as saith the Apostle then why not God both of the Dead and of the Living as well as Lord both of the Dead and Living and likewise why not let the Word of God as well as let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly for if the Word of Christ be the Word of God and if God be the Lord and the Lord God then why not God in both places as well as Lord First I am well assur'd that God is called Judge of Quick and Dead and if so then because Christ is Lord of Quick and Dead Christ the Lord is God of both Quick and Dead unless there be more Lords of the Living and the Dead then the One Almighty God and Lord of Heaven and Earth Besides methinks this Critick might have consider'd that it is not expresly in the Greek that He might be Lord but that he might Raign over the Dead and the Living so saith the Arabick but the Aethiopick has it That he might judge both the Dead and the Living In short Christ is called both God Lord and Judge and since there is but one only True God Lord and Judge of right Christians we therefore believe Christ to be that only True God Lord and Judge of both Quick and Dead And here let me caution the Man of his eager Opposition to Christ's Divinity since supposing it should not be true there can be no Detraction and if it should prove true as he may one day know he will be guilty of robbing Christ of that for which he thought it no robbery himself to be equal with God that is to be the only true God Himself A Summary Consideration of such Scripture Citations as he trivially Objects against not so much about Matter of Doctrine as in Point of imperfect Quotation and Transposition of Words GEorge Fox in answer to a Priest thus Contrary to John's Doctrine and Christ's who saith The Light that doth enlighten every man that cometh into the World is the true Light that man through the Light might believe Our Adversary answers That it is through Him that is John Baptist Now granting it to be so yet John was no more Instrumental then as by the Light fitted to be so as Erasmus well said and others Whatsoever Light John had he received it from Christ the Fountain of Life So that still the Light was that Medium or Instrument Besides he does not positively charge G. F. with referring those words to that Verse and to be sure that is no Doctrinal Mistake since most true in it self Secondly His next Criticism is this whereas the Scripture runs thus For God who commanded Light to shine out of Darkness hath shined in our Hearts to give the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ He brings in G. F. citing it thus The Light which shined in their Hearts to give the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ Again Which was the Work of the true Apostles to bring People to the Light within that shined in their Hearts to give c. Again he sayes The Light that which gives the Knowledge But sayes he if he had recited it right it would then have appeared not only that God was the Giver but also that it is the Light of Knowledge and created for God caused Light to shine out of Darkness by creating it Gen. 1. 3 4. Thus far this impertinent Man To all which I say that first he obtrudes an arrant Lye upon our very Senses to say that G. F. has not rightly cited it for so much as he did cite For God caused the Light to shine where in their Hearts So sayes G. F. But for what to give of the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ And doth not G. F. say the same Wretched Scribler How Idle how Frivolous and how very Troublesom is he with his Ridiculous Remarks Secondly that the Knowledge comes by the Light all but such Bats as himself must needs see For why did God give his outward Light if not to give external Sight and Discerning And to what purpose did He cause his Invisible Spiritual Light to shine if not to give an Internal Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ Besides God himself is Light He is that Great Supernatural Sun that shines throughout the Intellectual World offering unto Men the Knowledge of his Divine Glory and that in the Face of Jesus Christ This is our Message a● it was the true Messengers of Old And who talk of the Creation of this Light because it gives Knowledge may as well say God who was the Fountain of it was created too because He gives Knowledge I would have him give us one Scripture that therefore calls the Light created because it gives Divine Knowledge or if he can but one Reason who fools himself and would others with the Conceit that he is a great Master of it For what grosser Darkness can be then to assert the Creation of the hight upon that very Account for which we ought most truly to believe it Spiritual and Eternal But enough for this Thirdly G. F. saith But the Word is nigh thee in thy Heart Deut. 30. Moses saith our Adversary sayes But the Word is very nigh thee in thy Mouth and in thy Heart that thou mayst● do it Where observe that the only Difference lies in leaving out in his Mouth though it be imply'd for where it is in the Heart it will be in the Mouth But