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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
knowledge_n	apostle_n	church_n	faith_n	1,628	5	4.9999	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07038	Oh read ouer D. Iohn Bridges, for it is worthy worke: or an epitome of the fyrste booke, of that right worshipfull volume, written against the puritanes, in the defence of the noble cleargie, by as worshipfull a prieste, Iohn Bridges, presbyter, priest or elder, doctor of Diuillitie, and Deane of Sarum Wherein the arguments of the puritans are wisely prevented, that when they come to answere M. Doctor, they must needes say some thing that hath bene spoken. Compiled for the behoofe and overthrow of the vnpreaching parsons, fyckers, and currats, that haue lernt their catechismes, and are past grace: by the reverend and worthie Martin Marprelat gentleman, and dedicated by a second epistle to the terrible priests. In this epitome, the foresaide fickers, [et]c. are very insufficiently furnished, with notable inabilitie of most vincible reasons, to answere the cauill of the puritanes. ...; Oh read over D. John Bridges. Epitome	Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name.	1588 (1588)	STC 17454; ESTC S112311	32,960	52

it then in deede I must thinke you not to be altogether so leaddenheaded as your brother Bridges For do you thinke that a man entreating of the Maior of London the two Shiriffs and their offices speaketh by by of some part of the order gouerment of the citie of London or of som of the gouernours of the citie As though my L. Maior the two Shiriffes were now become to be any of the gouernours of the citie of London or their offices any part of that gouernment Who seeth not by this example the folly of our precise brethrens reason euidently declared The Apostle say they speketh of Apostles prophets Euangelists pastors doctors and their functions for this M.D. confesseth therfore he speaketh of some ecclesiasticall gouernours and of some part of ecclesiasticall gouernement Apostles prophets pastors and doctors are church gouernours with them and their office a part of ecclesiasticall gouerment Let them learne let them learn simple siginnes as they are that the Apostle speaketh in this place of ecclesiasticall functions and not of any part of ecclesiasticall gouerment For so M.D. in this 61. pag compare line 17. with line 22. teacheth vs to speake English making an ecclesiasticall function to be a thing altogether differing in nature from euery part of ecclesiasticall gouernment A very proper and pleasant distinction In the second place this testimonie brought in by our brethren is prooued to make nothing to their purpose by two reasons And what bommination vmbertie of reasons here be to perceede foorth one head and yet euerye one fause as it is true that my good brother Ouerton the B. of Liechfield and Couentree sould his Chauncellorship at one time vnto two se●erall men to wit to D. Beacon and the good Chauncellor M. Zacharie Babington Well parson Bridges his 1. reason is after this sort That place which sheweth gifts and functions to be ordayned in the Church to the buylding vp of the bodie of Christe in the vnitie of the fayth and knowledge maketh nothing to prooue that there is an ecclesiasticall gouerment prescribed in the worde Thou sayst euen true parson Iohn For what hath the functions of pastors doctors Apostles c. to doe with Church gouernement A prettie matter euery beggerly Apostle pastor doctor or Euangelist y t cannot spende no I am sure no● 40. marks yearely by all the spirituall liuing he hath in his hande must nowe be a Church gouernour with our brethren their offices be a part of Church gouernment Why brethren what meane you by this place you haue brought O● you thinke that the Apostle by those functions and those persons spoken of Ephes. 4.12 meaneth that any of them functions shoulde be a Lordlike functiou or any of the persons Lord. You saye he doth not No doth not Then out of your owne grant he speaketh nothing of ecclesiasticall gouernment and gouernors Because euerie ecclesiasticall gouernour must needs be a Lord and so ecclesiasticall gouernment a lordly gouernement If this be not true aske my brother Bridges For should God ordaine great men and great Lords to be rulers in common wealths ouer whome hee hath not so great care as he hath for his Church and ordayne none but beggerly fellowes not able to spend 200. markes by the yeare nay nor 20. neither to beare rule in his Church I grant in deed that you brethren puritans saye the trueth as it ought to be that bishops or ministers ought not to be Lords in any wise eyther as ministers or as ciuill magistrates Thus in deed it ought to be I and my brethren the Bb. do grant vnto you And you knowe we would it were so But you know also that our laws will haue Church gouernours to be Lords and what should our Bishops good noble men refuse that which the law would haue them to take Get you the law to be against their lordly callings and see whether they will not giue ouer their Lord bishopdomes whensoeuer lawe compelleth them And whensoeuer they giue ouer they shall haue no cause to thanke suche enuious brethren as you are Howsoeuer it be you see the Apostle speaking of all sorts of ministers by your owne confession speaketh nothing of any Lord or Lordly gouerment among them all and therefore speaketh nothing of Church gouernment Againe all those functions whereof the Apostle maketh any mention as my brother Bridges hath well noted are ordayned to the buylding of the bodie of Christe in the vnitie of fayth and knowledge Nowe I would anye puritan of you all durst say that our Church gouernors that is our venerable and worshipfull Lord bishops are ordained of God for the building of his bodie which I know you will say to be done by preaching As though ● bishops being ciuill gouernours should preach Were it meete I pray you to see Steuen Gardiner being thē of the priuie Counsell in the pulpit Counsellors nowe must haue ●omething to doe with pulpit matters muste they I pray you Will you allow that ciuill gouernours should be ordinarie preachers in your new platforme of a reformed Church I know you will not And what reason is it then that you should require Bb. to be ordinary preachers seeing euery bishop is a ciuil gouernour I tel you true I am so far from thinking that bishops ought to be ordinarie preachers seeing they are ciuill gouernours that I hold it a sin for them to preache ordinarily And brethren you doe not well therefore in vrging ciuil gouernours to preach especially seing you your selues in your platformes are against this point And because it shall be seene that I deale vprightly betweene you and the P.P. prelates I will set downe my reason answer it when you can it shall be concluded I warrant you in moode and figure But in deed I haue inuented a newe moode of mine owne for I haue bin a great schooleman in my daies which containeth in it a great misterie The misterie I will expound it may be in a book for the purpose In the meane time if you resort to my sonne Martin senyor that worthy wight he it may be shalbe able to vnfolde the secresie thereof This is the syllogisme the moode answereth vnto Celarent elder daughter to Barbara and I will haue it called Perncanterburikenolde Perne No ciuill magistrate can be an ordinarye preacher without sinne Ce la rent Canterburie Euerie Lorde Bishoppe is a ciuill magistrate Therefore Ce la rent Kenolde No Lord Bishop can be an ordinarie preacher without sinne Ce la rent What say you now brethren would you haue ciuill gouernors such as our Bishops are to preach I hope not For although I cannot deny but som of our bishops are very great breakepulpits and haue as marueilous rawe gifts in preaching as any that euer came to Pauls wharff yet surely I cānot see what warrant you haue to vrge ciuil officers to preach Wherefore also you doe not well in crying out against ciuil gouernors because