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A90962 The city-remonstrance remonstrated. Or An answer to Colonell John Bellamy, his Vindication thereof, in justification of The moderate reply to the city-remonstrance. / By I.P. Price, John, Citizen of London. 1646 (1646) Wing P3339; Thomason E345_18; ESTC R200996 24,101 36

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