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A81741	The northern subscribers plea, vindicated from the exceptions laid against it by the non-subscribing ministers of Lancashire and Cheshire, and re-inforced by J. Drew. Published according to order.	Drew, John, fl. 1649-1651.	1651 (1651)	Wing D2165; Thomason E638_11; ESTC R206635	62,703	75

any more in their former capacity ours have the liberty to resume their places if they please as many have repented and done so that the Scotch Authority does not only depend upon a Force but upon a greater Force then ours in England 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Our in ference from this Force in Scotland so usefull to the Kirk there and so in-offensive as it seems to the Ministers in Lancashire Cheshire that they judge it no force was this Hence we conceive that Parliament priviledges may be sometimes looked at as formalities rather then sacred and indispensible rights viz. when the greater number of Parliament men set themselves in a way of utter ruining rather then of building up and establishing a Nation on the sure foundation of peace and righteousnesse Certainly Sirs if any Priviledges should enable a Parliament to ruine us as good we sate content under the mercies of a Lawlesse-Royall-Prerogative as of a Parliament so priviledged yet this inference of ours the Gentlemen take too much to heart that even 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 it stirres them out of measure Theecr so that incontinently they fall into a fierce Parexysme This glosse say they calls not so much for an answer as for admiration and execration and aske Is this all the reverence and force which we give to Vowes Protestations and Oathes truly as little as they say we reverence them we yet reverence them as highly as the Kirke of Scotland does which are sometimes we see dispenced with in its respect to Parliament Priviledges we Covenant for them as servants not as Masters to the Publique good though they be not such light formalities but they may be lawfully Covenanted for what is a sacred thing in its place becomes a shadow if mis-plac'd and unduly preferr'd it may be Sacriledge to pursue that which zeale and duty well inform'd let goe as inconfistent with what is most sacred the Scots allow of a subordination in the matters of the most solemne Covenant as we shew'd in our Plea and subordinates we know are in a sense formalities dispensable withall surely if set in ballance with the more sacred and superiour ends encovenanted for so are Parliament Priviledges though in themselves grave and grand realities if they stand in competition or be compared with reformation publique liberty and safety those SANCTA SANCTORUM of the Covenant And now let wise men judge whether this inference or glosse of ours as the Ministers call it be such an execrable heinous one as they would render it and whether it be a dangerlesse and religionlesse excuse of the Armies force 1 Is there danger in preferring publique good before the priviledges of any particular men or any sort of men whatsoever this would implead not only the Armies force but also the Selfe-denying Ordinance Sirs 2 Religion lets us not know to give flattering titles to men Job 32.21 22. much lesse to indulge them with undue Seraphicall inrespective priviledges this is reall and transcendent adulation how comes it to be religionlesse then to give publique weale and safety an higher roome in our Covenant then Parliament Priviledges every publique spirit savours such ir-religion as this Covenants are conservatories of these Priviledges whiles improv'd to publique service otherwise men might ruine a Nation cum privilegio and plead Covenant for their justification but this is prevented by that limitation in our Solemne League and Covenant viz. in the preservation and defence of the true Religion and Liberties of the Kingdome This we alledge in answer to that question of these Ministers whother there be such a condition as we speake to reserv'd out of the covenanted preservation of Parliament priviledges yea or no The letter of the Covenant notes out this reservation or condition providing for Parliament Priviledges as things subordinate and sub-servant to Religion and Liberty but say they Doe we finde any where in Scripture that subjects are dis-engaged from subjection to and maintaining of the rights or the Authorities lawfully placed over them in case of their maeleadministration Ans There were many such texts of Scripture to be found eight or nine yeares agoe when men cryed out To thy tents O Israel and Ministers cryed Curse ye Meroz c. Subjection was not with drawne from King Charles nor Armes raised against him and he beaten from one place to another without some Scripture warrant but if men vomit up their principles and build again what they destroyed they are to be dealt with upon another score 2 There are some rights or particular priviledges belonging to Magistrates in all constitutions we conceive which may undergo a dominution yea be pessundated Salva authoritate personall rights may at some feasons interfer with common safety and peace which authority never doth therefore in the question propounded there is fallacia compositionis But 3 T is a thorny solemne point and we dare not rush on unheedily in it let the grave and bold Lapinian lead us the way in his Treatise touching peoples withdrawing subjection from their King or otherwise called the Soveraigne power of Parliaments and Kingdoms he thus expresseth himself it can hardly seem probable much lesse credible that any * Negari non potest quin populus aliquis necessitate coactus possit se vendere Regi ut omnes sint pl●ne servi ipsius Gen. 47.23 sed neque hoc unquam praesumi debet quando non est manifestum quia contra mores est contra naturae inclinationem neque licitè honesteve ab ullo principe quaeri potest quia ejus officium est communem utilitatem populi praecipué spectare neque denique civitas aut politia esset quae illum in modum constitueretur sed herile dominium servitium monstrosum Ames cas consc lib. 5. cap. 25. free people whatsoever when they voluntarily at first encorporated themselves into a Kingdom or set up an elective or hereditary King over them would so absolutely resign up their soveraign popular originall authority power and liberty to their Kings c. as to give them an absolute irrevocable uncontrolable supremacy over them superiour to irrestrainable irresistable or unalterable by their own primitive inherent national soveraignty out of which their regall power was derived for this had been to make the creator in ferior to the creature c. a most bruitish sottish inconsiderate rash action not once to be imagined of any people and had our Ancestors or any other nations when they first erected Kings and instituted Kingly government been askt this question whether they meant thereby to transfer all their National Authority Power and Priviledges so far over to their Kings c. as not still to reserve the supremest power and jurisdiction to themselves to direct limit restrain their Princes supremacy and the exorbitant abuses of it when they should see just cause or so as not to be able ever after TO ALTER or diminish this forme of Government upon any occasion

addresses to him Did he so well but did he grant enough peradventure those who treated with him had no minde to aske what they should have ask'd so we are told those Members proceeded to make such Propositions to the King at the Isle of Wight for a safe and well-grounded peace D●clar Jan. 15. 1648. as if they had been granted and kept of which there was no probability would have returned the people againe to their former slavery c. yea this Treaty was entertained upon such Propositions as the King himselfe also should make which was formerly held to be so destructive to any well setled peace as neither the Houses of Parliament nor the Commissioners for the Kingdome of Scotland did thinke fitting to admit when he was in his greatest height of power whether now is here seene the Kings bounty to the Treaters or their prodigality to him he never would yeeld to recall Ormonds Commission as we are informed granted in the time of the Treaty nor that Episcopacy should be abolished only suspended Oh! royall bounty nor lastly that any one Delinquent should be capitally punished one only according to the Covenant no doubt being offered unto him namely poore David Jenkins in the meane time the worthy Treaters let him alone with his negative voyce and Booke of Common Prayer c. brave daubing so that the Scottish Consistories had cause to lift up their voyces against acquiessing in the Kings Concessions at Newport as being destructive to Religion and Covenant But the House voted these Concessions a ground to proceed upon for the settlement of the peace of the Kingdome Ans We have heard of such a Vote indeed but 't was to us a mysterious Caball we could never get acquainted with the reason of it no more then with their reasons for re-calling those Votes of non-addresses to the King made upon such and so many reasons of great weight unto the least of which there was never any answer given designing Statists use not it seemes to play above board but the reasons of adnulling that Vote for proceeding upon the Kings Concessions are visible Parliament Votes and Parliament reasons doe well together unlesse we should deny the goodnesse of our Cause saith the Parliament which God hath adjudged on our side Declar. Jan. 15 1648. by the gracious blessings of so many signall Victories unlesse we should betray our friends who have engaged with us upon our Votes of Non-addresses to the hazzard of their lives and fortunes unlesse we should value this one man the King above so many Millions of people whom we represent and unlesse we should scorne and contemne any peace which the great God of Heaven and Earth our assured helpe in our greatest distresses hath given us and that we must relye only upon such a peace which the King a Mortall man and our implacable enemy shall allow us unlesse we should give up our selves to the slaughter and suffer our owne Members to undermine the Parliament and Kingdomes Cause unlesse we should stake all to the Kings nothing and Treat with him who hath not any thing to give us c. And lastly unlesse we should value the bloud of so many Innocents and the Army of so many Martyrs who have dyed in this Cause lesse then the bloud of a few guilty persons by what name or title soever stiled we could doe no lesse then repeale those Votes before specified as being highly repugnant to the glory of God greatly dishonourable to the proceedings of Parliament and apparently destructive to the good of this Kingdome And here we should cut off our Web but that for a close we must needs remember what in a margicall note they tell us we forgot viz. That Scripture Job 34.18 and that Morall rule De mortuis nil nisi bonum and why because we call the Kings persistency by no softer a name then inexoriblenesse and implacability plaine dealing is a jewell Sirs the vile person shall be no more called liberall nor the Churle said to be bountifull Isa 32.5 1 Therefore we did not forget that text in Job but these gentle Doctors forgot to take in the 17 vers with the 18. we read them both together and then they expound one another and chide the Classis for putting them asunder Job 34.17 18. Shall even he that hateth right governe and wilt thou condemne him that is most just Is it fit to say to a King thou art wicked and to Princes ye are ungodly If Princes be just God forbid they should be evil spoken of It is not fit to strike Rulers for equity but what if they hate right must no Prophet come within the Princes Chappel must not Kings know their Names Am. 7.13 Thou prophane wicked Prince of Israel saith Ezekiel Thou and thy Fathers house hath troubled Israel saith Elijah Ezek. 21.25 1 King 18.18 2 Chron 16.9 1 Sam. 15. Luk. ●3 32 Herein thou hast done foolishly saith the Seer unto Asa this is plaine dealing Did Samuel spare Saul when he rebelled against the Lord Did our blessed Master the Lord Jesus spare Herod In a word did the generall Assembly of the Kirke of Scotland spare King Charles or might they charge him as a Sabbath-breaker an Idolater a Murtherer and is it a Piaculum or any blasphemy for us poore Mortals to call him an inexorable man the Heathen Lawyer Papinian boldly reproved the Emperour Caracalla for his Parricide and are Kings yet more sacred We are perswaded that sometime within the memory of Man divers Ministers of Lancashire and Cheshire though they opened not their mouthes as Papinian did against Caracalla yet have spoken as grosly of King Charles as ever the Northerne Subscribers did Non enim Sacerdotale est quod Sentias non dicere Ambros 2 Neither did we forget that saying De mortuis nil nisi bonum to speake the truth of the dead is to speake what is ‖ Bonum et verum convertuntur good and if we have spoken otherwise let the World beare witnesse of the evill that rule requires Charity but not in dispendium veritatis The names of the wicked shall rot saith the surer Word so did the names of Ahab Omri and Jeroboam though Kings and how unsavoury doth the Spirit of God make the memory of Ahaz by that brand upon his bones that inscription upon his Grave 2 Chron. 28.22 This is that King Ahaz these Ministers we presume are no strangers to Nazianzens invectives where the deceased * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c Orat. 3. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ibid. Paulo post 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Orat. 19. Julian is drawn to the life to flatter the dead is to wrong the living and to strengthen the hands of wicked men in evil wayes the great discommode of funerall Panegyricks were it not better that a Spade were called a Spade then to say King Charles of blessed memory unlesse there was cause for it truly this Princes Fate is observeable for many who made no more of him either in Presse or Pulpit when hee was alive then one would doe of a dead Dogge a Panaeb Regis defuncti corpus terrâ condunt caput abscindunt inaurant in sacris collocan● Causs Hierogl l. 5 c 58. now can hardly beare a word spoken against him See Prov. 24.24 Suet. in Otho Quiescat Obba parum Mantu but upon all occasions rise up as his compurgators but there is no new thing Thus Suetonius tells us it was with Otho Magna pars hominum incolumem gravissime detestata mortuum laudibus tulit but we shall provoke these Royalists indignation no further Here let our Pitchar stand farewell Now the Lord of peace himselfe give us peace alwayes by all means 2 Thes 3.16 FINIS