the same were particularly enacted by the Authority of Parliament And that the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell may adde to or repeale the said Ordinances from time to time as they shall see cause That such other Propositions as shall be made for the City for their farther safety welfare and Government and shall be approved of by both Houses of Parliament may be granted and confirmed by Act of Parliament Vpon consideration of which Propositions His Majesty sent the Duke of Richmond and the Earle of Southampton with this Message of the 13th of December HIs Majesty hath seriously considered your Propositions II. and findes it very difficult in respect they import so great an alteration in Government both in Church and State to returne a particular and positive answer before a full debâ—te wherein thosâ— Propositions and all the necessary Explanations and reasons for assenting dissenting or qualifying and all inconveniences and mischiefes which may ensue and cannot otherwise be so well foreseen may be discussed and weighed His Majesty therefore proposeth and desireth as the best expedient for Peace That you will appoynt such number of Persons as you shall think fit to Treat with the like number of Persons to be appoynted by His Majesty upon the said Propositions and such other things as shall be proposed by His Majesty for the preservation and defence of the Protestâ—nt Religion with due regard to the ease of tender Consciences as His Majesty hath often offered The Rights of the Crowne The Liberty and Property of the Subject and the Priviledges of Parliament And upon the whole matter to conclude a happy and blessed Peace Vnto which Message this Answer of the 27th of December was returned to His Majesty May it please your Most Excellent Majesty WEE Your Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects of both Kingdomes have considered of Your Maiesties Message III. of the 13. of December 1644. sent by the Duke of Richmond and the Earle of Southampton directed to the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and to the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland now at London And doe in all humblenesse returne this Answer That we doe consent there be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace But find that it will require some time to resolve concerning the Instructions and manner of that Treaty And therefore that Your Majesty might not be held in suspence touching our readinesse to make use of any opportunity for attayning such a blessed and happy Peace in all Your Majesties Dominions We would not stay Your Majesties Messengers till we did resolve upon all thâ—se particulars which we will take into our serious consideration and present our humble desires to Your Majesty with all convenient speed Westminster the 20 â—h of Decemb. 1644. Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore Signed in the name and by warrand of the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland LOWDON William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House Assembled in Parliament And afterwards upon the 18th of January following Sir Peter Killigrew brought this farther Answer to His Majesty May it please Your Most Excellent Majesty WEE Your Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects the IV. Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland do make our further answer to Your Majesties Message of the 13th of December last 1644. Concerning a Treaty for Peace as followeth We do consent that there be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace between your Majesty and your humble and Loyall Subjects assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes And for the present have appoynted Algernon Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembrook Mountgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bâ—sill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepoint Sir Henry Vane Junior Oliver St Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew Edmund Prideaux for the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster And Iohn Earle of Lowdon Lord Chancellor of Scotland Archibald Marquisse of Argyle Iohn Lord Maitland Iohn Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnston Sir Charles Erskin George Dundas Sir Iohn Smith M r Hugh Kennedy and M r Robert Barclay for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland together with Master Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion who or any Ten of them there being alwayes some of the Parliaments of both Kingdomes are appointed and authorized to meet at Vâ—bridge on what day Your Majesty shall be pleased to set downe before the last day of this present Ianuary with such Persons as Your Majesty shall appoint under Your Signe Manuall for that purpose And the number of the persons to Treat not to exceed seventeen on either part unlesse the persons named for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland now not here or any of them shall come and then Your Maiesty may have the like number if you please There to Treat upon the Matters conteined in the Propositions we lately sent unto Your Majesty according to such Instructions as shall be given unto them And the Propositions for Religion the Militia and for Ireland to be first Treated on and agreed and the time for the Treaty upon the said Propositions for Religion the Militia and for Ireland not to exceed Twenty dayes and for the things mentioned in Your Message to be propounded by Your Maiesty when the Persons sent by Your Maiesty shall communicate the same to the Committees appointed by us as aforesaid We have directed them to send the same to us That they may receive our Instructions what to doe therein And to the end that the Persons that are to be sent from Your Majesty and from us with their retinue not exceeding the number of one Hundred and Eight on either part may repaire to Vxbridge stay there and returne at their pleasure without interruption That mutuall safe Conducts be granted to the said Persons according to the severall Lists of their Names Signed by Order of the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England as Westminster Signed in the name and by warrant of the Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland LOWDON Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House in the Parliament of England Whereunto His Majesty returned an Answer inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex dated the 21 of January which Letter and Answer were as followeth The Letter My Lord I Am commanded by His Majesty to returne this His answer V. Together with this inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex His Majestie sent a safe Conduct for their Commissioners and their retinue to the Message lately sent Him from the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland by Sir Peter Killigrew I
Lord Culpeper Sir Edward Nicholas Knight one of Our principall Secretaries of State Sir Edward Hide Knight Chancellour and Vnder-Treasurer of Our Exchequor Sir Richard Lane chiefe Baron of Our said Exchequor Sir Thomas Gardiner Sir Orlando Bridgeman M Iohn Ashburnham and M. Ieffrey Palmer together with Doctor Richard Steward upon these Propositions concerning Religion to be Our Commissioners touching the premisses And do hereby give unto them and to any ten or more of them full power and authority to meet and on Our part to Treat with Algernoun Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembroke and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Basill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pieirepoynt Esquires Sir Henry Vane the yonger Knight Oliver S. Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew and Edmund Prideaux Esquires for the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and Iohn Earle of Lowdon Lord Chancellour of Scotland Archibald Marquesse of Argile Iohn Lord Maytland Iohn Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnston Sir Charles Erskin George Dundaâ— Sir Iohn Smith M. Hugh Kennedy and M. Robert Barclay for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland together with M. Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion or with any ten or more of them upon and touching the matters contained in the said Propositions Answers and Messages or any other according to the manner and agreement therein specified or otherwise as they or any ten or more of them shall think fit and to take all the premisses into their serious considerations and to compose conclude and end all differences arising thereupon or otherwise as they or any tenne or more of them in their wisdomes shall think fit And upon the whole matter to conclude a safe and well grounded Peace if they can And whatsoever they or any ten or more of them shall do in the premisses We doe by these presents ratifie and confirme the same Given at Our Court at Oxford the Eight and Twentieth day of Ianuary in the Twentieth yeare of Our Raigne 1644. Their Commission to the English Commissioners Die Martis 28. Ianuary 1644. BEE it Ordained by the Lords and Commons assembled in XI Parliament That Algernoun Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembroke and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bazill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepont Sir Henry Vane Junior Oliver St. Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew and Edmund Prideaux shall have power and authority and are hereby authorized to joyne with the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland together with Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion only To Treat with the Lord Duke of Richmond Marquisse of Hertford the Earle of Southampton the Earle of Kingston the Lord Dunsmore Lord Capell Lord Seymour Sir Christopher Hatton Sir Iohn Culpeper Sir Edward Nicholas Sir Edward Hide Sir Richard Lane Sir Orlando Bridgeman Sir Thomas Gardiner M. Iohn Ashbornham M. Ieffery Palmer or any tenne of them upon the Propositions formerly sent to His Maiesty for a safe and well grounded Peace from His Maiesties humble and Loyall Subiects assemblâ—d in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes together with Dr Steward upon the Propositions concerning Religion only and upon his Maiesties Propositions according to such Instructions as have been given to them or as they from time to time shall receive from both Houses of Parliament Iohn Browne Cler. Parliamentor Their Commission to the Scots Commissioners AT Edinburgh the saxteint day of Iulij The Èeir of God XII M. Vj c fourtye four Èeires The Estaistes of Parliament presentlie conveined be vertew of the last act of the last Tarliament haldin by His Majesty and thrie Estaites in Anno. 1641. Considdering that this Kingdome efter all uther meanes of supplicationnes Remonstrances and sending of Commissionaris to His Majesty have bein used without success Did enter into a solemne league Covenant with the Kingdom ParliameÌ„t of England for Reformationne defence of Religionne the honor happines of the King the peace safety of the thrie Kingdoms of Scotland England Ireland And ane Treattie aggried upon ane Armie and Forces raised and sent out of yis Kingdom for these endis Quhairupone the Conventionne of Estaistes of this Kingdome the nynt of Iannuary last being desirous to use all good and lawfull meanes that Treuth and Peace might be established in all His Majesties Dominions with such a blessed Pacificationne betwixt His Maiesty and His Subiectis as might serve most for His Maiesties trew honor and the safety and happines of His people Granted Commissione to Iohn Erle of Lowdounne heigh Chancellor of Scotland Iohne Lord Mai t and than and Èit in England Sir Archibald Iohnestounne of Wariestounne ane of the Lordis of Sessionne and Maister Robert Barclay now in England to repaire to England with power to thame or any twa of yame to endeavoure the effectuating of ye foirsaides endis conforme to the Commmissione and instructiones than giving to thame as the Commissione of the dait foirsaid proportis Lyke as the saides Iohne Lord of Maitland Sir Archibald Iohnestounne and Maister Robert Barclay have evir since attendit in England in the discharge of the foirsaid Commissione Qunhill lately that Sir Archibald Iohnestounne returned with some Propositiones prepaired by the Committie of both Kingdomes to be presented to the Estaites of Scotland and to both howss of the Parliament of England and by thame to be revised and considderit and than by mutuall advyse of both Kingdomes to be presented for ane safe and weill grounded peace Qwhilkies Propositiones ar revised and considderit and advysed be the Estaites of Parliament now conveined and their sense and resultis drawin up yrupone Whiche Commissione is to endure while the comming of the Commissionars underwrittin And heirewith also considderin That the endis for the whilk the samen was granted ar not Èit effectuate and that the Propositiones with ye Estaites thair resultis yrupone ar to be returned to ye Parliament of England Thairfore the Estaites of Parliament be thir presentis gives full powar and Commissione to the said Iohne Erle of Lowdonne Lord heigh Chancellor of yis Kingdome Archibald Marqueis of Argyle and Iohne Lord Balmerino for the Nobility Sr Archibald Iohnestounne of Wariestonne Sir Charles Erskyne of Cambuuskenneth and Maister George Dundas of Maner for the Barrones Sr Iohne Smyth of Grottâ—ll Proveist of Edenburgh Hew Kennedy Burges of Air and Master Robert Barclay for the Burrowes the thrie Estates of yis Kingdom and to Iohne Lord Maitland supernumerarie in this Commissione or to any thrie or mae of the haill number thair being ane of ilk Estate as Commissionaris from the Estaites of Parliament of this Kinkdome to repaire to the Kinkdome of England sick of them as ar not thair already and with powar to thame or any thrie or mae of the whole number thair being ane of ilk Estaite to endeavour the
Sir Orlando Bridgeman Sir Thomas Gardiner Mr Iohn Ashburnham and Mr Ieffery Palmer or any tenne of them upon the Propositions formerly sent to His Majesty for a safe and well grounded Peace from His Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdoms Together with Doctor Stuard upon the Propositions concerning Religion only And upon His Majesties Propositions according to such Instructions as have been given to them or as they from time to time shall receive from both Houses of Parliament Io. BROWNE Cler. Parliam The same last of Ianuary their Commissioners delivered to His Majesties Commissioners this paper Ianuary 31. HAving considered your Commission and Power from His Majesty given in last night by your Lordships we find that XVIII you are authorized to treat only upon certain Propositions sent to His Majesty from the Lords and Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster and upon His Majesties Answers Messages and Propositions to them and their returnes to his Majesty Wherein we observe that the Propositions sent to His Maiesty from His Maiesties Loyall Subiects assembled in the Parliaments of both His Kingdoms are mentioned to be sent to His Maiestie from the Lords and Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster and upon His Maiesties Answers Messages and Propositions to them and their Returnes to His Maiesty that a Treaty is to begin And wherein We also observe you have no Power thereby to Treat upon the Propositions sent to His Maiesty from His humble and Loyall Subiects Assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdoms and the Answers Messages and Propositions sent from His Maiesty to the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland then at London and their returnes to His Maiestie We desire those defects may be cleared and speedily amended The King's Commissioners Answer 31. January WE conceive Our Power being to Treat upon the Propositions XIX brought by the Earle of Denbigh and others and those Propositions being sent from the Parliaments of both Kingdomes there need no mention of the Parliaments of both Kingdomes in that place but that Our power is ample to Treat with your Lordships upon the whole both by expresse words and by other generall words in the Commission which give power to Treat upon those Propositions or any other which generall words are not observed by your Lordships in your paper And Our power is to Treat with the Lords and others authorized for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland by name yet since you insist upon it it shall be altered by Tuesday next And in the meane time if your Lordships please We desire * The Papers intended are the Propositions concerned Religion which were not then delivered the papers promised yesterday in the paper delivered by the Earle of Northumberland may be delivered unto Vs that there may be as little losse of time as may be Their Reply 31. Ian. IN answer to your Lordships Paper concerning your Power to XX. Treat we are content to proceed in the Treaty with your Lordships in expectation that the Defects mentioned by us in our Paper shall be supplyed by Tuesday next On Munday the third of February the Kings Commissioners did deliver their Commission renewed as followeth CHARLES R. WHereas certaine Propositions were sent unto us from XXI the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and from the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland which were brought unto Vs at Oxford in November last by the Earle of Denbigh and others and upon Our Answers c. as followeth verbatim in His Majesties former Commission Touching the manner of the Treaty The KING's Commissioners Paper 31. January WE desire to the end there may be a greater Freedom XXII in debate which We conceive will much conduce to the happy conclusion of this Treaty that nothing may be understood to be concluded on either side but what is delivered in Writing according as your Lordships have begun And we declare That what shall be delivered in writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition is not to be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty break off upon any other Proposition or part of any other Proposition Their Answer 31. Ianuary WEE shall deliver our Demands and Answers in Writing XXIII and desire your Lordships to doe the like The King's Commissioners Reply 1. Feb. WEE desire a full Answer of our Paper that nothing XXIV shall be taken as agreed upon but what is put in writing and your Concurrence in declaring that what shall be delivered in writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition shall not be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty breake off Their further Answer 1. February ACcording to our former Paper we shall deliver our demands XXV and answers in writing and we desire your Lordships to doe the like and nothing shall be taken as agreed upon but what is put in writing And we shall acquaint the Houses of Parliament that you have declared what shall be delivered in Writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition is not to be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty break off 3. February IN answer to your Lordships Paper formerly delivered we doe XXVI declare that what shall be delivered in Writing upon any Proposition or upon any part of a Proposition is not to be binding or prejudiciall to either Party if the Treaty breake off upon any other Propositions or part of any Proposition Touching the Seditious Sermon The KING's Commissioners Paper 31. Ianuary WEE have certaine Information from divers Persons XXVII It was on Thursday being Market day and the first day of the Meeting present in Vxbridge Church yesterday that there was then a Sermon Preached by one Mr Love in which were many passages very Scandalous to His Majesties Person and derogatâ—ry to His Honour stirring up the people against this Treaty and incensing them against Vs telling them That we come with hearts full of Bloud and that there is as great distance between this Treaty and Peace as between Heaven and Hell or words to that effect with divers other Seditious passages both against His Majesty and this Treaty We know His Majesties hearty desire of a happy and well grounded Peace such as may be for Gods Honour and the good of all His Subjects as well as himselfe And we that are entrusted by His Commission come with cleare Intentions to serve Him in it according to our Consciences and the best of our Iudgements And this being Preached in your Quarters where we are now under safe Conduct We desire your Lordships to consider how much this may reflect upon our Safety how much it may prejudice and blast the blessed hopes of this Treaty and how just offence and distrust it may beget in His Majesty
that whole Kingdom consented to such a Cessation we desire to be informed by your Lordships how that Cessation can be declared voyd without a breach of Faith and honour in His Majestie and we are ready by conference particularly to inform your Lordships of the motives which induced His Majestie to consent to that Cessation Their Answer 10. Feb. VVE conceive that His Maiestie had not power to make the CXLIII Cessation in Ireland nor had any iust grounds to doe the same and therefore we insist as in our former paper That an Act of Parliament be passed to make voy'd the Cessation of Ireland and conceive that His Maiestie is bound in honour and iustice to consent unto the same and we are ready to conferre with your Lordships as is desired and to receive your Lordships full answer to this the other particulars expressed in our paper concerning Ireland After long debates in conference which spent the greatest part of the day touching the motives of that Cessation and the King's power to make it His Majesties Commissioners delivered in this paper 10. Febr. WE have received no satisfaction or information in your CXLIV Lordships debate to alter our opinionâ— of His Majesties power to make the Cessation in Ireland and having carefully produced and considered the Statute alleadged by your Lordships we cannot find any particular clause in that Statute neither have your Lordships mentioned any though often desired by us so to do whereby His Majesties power to make a Cessation there is taken away and therefore we are still of opinion that His Majesty had full power to make and consent to that Cessation and we conceive that we have given your Lordships an account of very just grounds to induce His Majestie to do the same it appearing to His Maiestie by the Letters and advice from the Lords Iustices and Councell of that Kingdom and of the Officers of His Maiesties Army there which we have read to your Lordships and of which Letters and advices we now give * Copies of the Letters and advices were accordingly delivered Copies to your Lordships that His Maiesties good Protestant Subiects of that Kingdom were in imminent danger to be Over-runne by the Rebels and His Army to be disbanded for want of necessary supplies and that there was no such probable way for their preservation as by making a Cessation neither have your Lordships given us any satisfying reasons against the making the said Cessation or made it appeare to us that that Kingdom could have bin preserved without a Cessation and therefore we cannot apprehend how His Maiesty can with Iustice and honour declare the same to be voyd We shall be ready against the next time assigned for the Treaty touching Ireland to give your Lordships a further answer to your Propositions concerning that Argument the Treaty concerning Ireland of the 6th of August 1642. and the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. which we did never see till your Lordships delivered us Copies of them making so great an alteration in the Government there that we cannot be prepared for the present to make a full answer to those Propositions Their Answer 10. Feb. IT is very contrary to our expectation to find your Lordships unsatisfied CXLV after those Arguments and Reasons alleadged by us that His Maiestie had not power to make the Cessation with the Rebels in Ireland and that upon the perusall of the Statute it appeares not to you that His Maiestie had no power to make that Cessation it is strange to us your Lordships should forget all the other Arguments used by us from the Common-Law from other proceedings in Parliament and circumstances as this case stands on which we still insist and do affirme that His Maiestie had no power to make or consent to that Cessation we do not see any iust grounds in the Copies of the Letters given us by your Lordships for His Maiesties assenting to the Cessation nor do we know by whom those Letters were written we are therefore still clearely of Opinion notwithstanding all your Lordships have alleadged that it was unfit for His Maiestie to agree unto that Cessation being destructive to His good Subiects and to the Protestant Religion there and only for the advantage of the Popish Rebels to the high dishonour of God the Disservice of His Maiestie and evident preiudice of His three Kingdoms We therefore again desire your Lordships full answer to what we have delivered to you concerning Ireland The King's Commissioners Paper 10. February WE have given your Lordships our reasons why we are CXLVI not satisfied with your Arguments that His Majesty had not power to make the Cessation and as upon the perusall of the Statute we can find no ground for that Opinion so your Lordships in your whole debate have not insisted or mentioned one Clause in that Statute though often desired which makes See the lâ—te Statute concerning the Adventurers for Irâ—sh Lands it good neither have your Lordships given us any Argument from the Common-Law other then by telling us That it is against the Common-Law because the private Interest of the Subscribers for Money was concerned in it to which we give this Answer That their Interest was Conditionall upon payment of their Moneys for the maintenance of the Warre which was not performed And that if they had paid their Moneys yet this Cessation was rather for the advance of that Interest there being as it appeares by the * See the Letters and advices in the Appendix no. 9. Papers no other visible meanes of preservation of the Army in Ireland and that the Statute which gave that private Interest doth not take away the Kings Power of making a Cessation and we conceive that Argument of Interest was waved But it your Lordships shall insist upon it we againe desire as we did formerly That a Case may be made of it and that the debate may be againe resumed Neither doe we know that any Argument was used by your Lordships from the proceedings in Parliament And if you shall give any we shall be ready to Answer it And we conceive that the advice given to His Majesty from the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland and the Testimony of the Officers of the Army expressing the miserable condition of that Kingdome and inability to beare the Warre should appeare to your Lordships to be just grounds for His Majesties assenting to the Cessation One of the Letters delivered by us to your Lordships bearing date the fourth of April 1643. was sent by the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland to Mr Secretary Nicholas in which was inclosed their Letter to the Speaker of the House of Commons of which your Lordships have likewise an Extract and a Remonstrance of the Officers of the Army to the Lords Iustices and Councell there and the other Letter of the fifth of May 1643. to His Majesty was from the Lords Iustices and Councell of that
Lievtenant of Ireland or Gâ—nerall of the Forces there hath to that purpose we do not know and therefore cannot inform your Lordships And as to the other particulars in that paper we do * The two Papers following no. 171 172. were delivered in before this Paper and the reference is to them and others formerly delivered on that subject refer our selves to the answers formerly given in to your Lordships demands touching that subject with this that we do conceive it to be most clear that His Majesty is in no wise restrained by expresse words or by the meaning of any Act made this Parliament from making a Peace or a Cessation in Ireland without the consent of the two Houses Their Paper 19. Feb. THere being but 3 dayes left to Treat upon the Propositions CLXIX for Religion the Militia and for Ireland and for that your Lordships have given no satisfactory answers to our dâ—mands concerning them we therefore now desire to confer with your Lordships how to dispose of the 3 dayes yet remaining that we may receive your Lordships full and clear answers thereunto The King's Commissioners Answer 19. February WE see no cause why your Lordships should think our CLXX Answers upon the Propositions for Religion and the Militia were not satisfactory And for that of Ireland we have received many Papers from your Lordships concerning that businesse besides the Propositions themselves to all which we doubt not to give a full and cleare Answer to your Lordships to morrow being the time assigned and the last day of the Treaty upon that subject * See the Paper 20. Feb. no. 192. touching His Majesties returne to Westminster After we shall be ready to conferre with your Lordships of disposing the remainder of the time Accordingly after the before mentioned Demands and Answer thereunto of the 19th of February the King's Commissioners in Answer to theirs of the 18th of February No. 149. delivered in this Paper 20. February VVE have already told your Lordships how farre we CLXXI. are from being satisfied by what you have alleadged against His Majesties Power to make a Cessation with the Rebells in Ireland neither have your Lordships in any degree answered the important reasons which induced His Majesty so to doe it being very evident that by the Cessation there His Majesties Protestant Subjects have been preserved and subsisted which without it they could not have done the two Houses forbearing to send any reliefe or supply to them and His Majesty not being able And we desire your Lordships to consider how impossible it was whilest the Warre continued in England with such fiercenesse and animosity by Armes to reduce the Kingdom of Ireland to His Majesties Obedience and therefore His Majesty had great reason to preserve that by a Cessation which He could not reduce by a Warre And we are most confident that the necessities which are not offered as excuses for but were the reall grounds of the Cessation were very visible to all those in that Kingdome whose advices His Maiesty ought in reason to follow and whose interests were most concerned and would not have given such advice if any â—ther way could have been found out to preserve them And we have been credibâ—y iâ—formed that the Committee sent into Ireland which His Maiesty never understood to be sent thither to supply the necessities but to observe the Actions of His Maiesties Ministers there having in their â—ourney thither signed Warrants in their owne names to apprehend the Persons of Pecres of this Realme and Persons of His Maiesties Privy Councell were never discountenanced there for His Maiesties directions that Persons who were not of His Privy Councell there should not be present at those Councells cannot be interpreted a discountenance to them in any thing they ought to doe And we are most assured that His Maiesty sent no Message or Letter to divert the course of the Officers Subscribing for Land in satisfaction of their Arreares but the Souldiers were meerly discouraged from the same by discerning that for want of Supplies they should not be able to goe on with that Warre And we doe assure your Lordships that His Majesty doth not beleeve that the Summes of Money raised for Ireland which your Lordships doe admit to have been made use of by both Houses of Parliament otherwise then was appointed are yet satisfied in any proportion the greatest part of the Money raised upon the Bill for 400000l and of the Moneys raised upon the charitable Collections as well as the Adventurers Moneys being imployed upon the Warre here And if the same were since satisfied it doth no wayes excuse the diverting of them when in the meane time that Kingdome suffered by that divertion And that the feare that other moneys so raised might likewise be misimployed was a great reason amoâ—gst others that made His Majesty not consent to that Bill mentioned by your Lordships And for the Regiments of Horse and Foot which your Lordships in your Paper of the 18th of this month say were designed for Ireland though they were imployed otherwise because a Commission could not be obtained for the Lord Wharton who was to Command those Forces It is well knowne that those Forces were raised before His Majesties Commission was so much as desired and then the Commission that was desired should have been independent upon His Majesties Lievrenant of that Kingdome and therefore His Maiesty had great reason not to consent to such a Commission and so the damages of keeping those six Pinnaces and the 1000 Land Forces if any such were proceeded not from any default of His Majesty And for the Provisions seized by His Maiesties Forces it is notorious that they were seized in the way to and neare Coventrey and that it was not made knowne to His Majesty that the same were for Ireland till after the seizure thereof when it was impossible to recover the same from the Souldiers who had taken them Whereas if a safe Conduct had been desired by His Majesty as it ought to have been the same being to passe through his Quarters there would have been no Violence or Interruption offered For the giving the Names of the Persons who subscribed the Letters delivered to your Lordships the Originalls of which have been shewed to you by us We have given your Lordships a full and reasonable Answer and if your Lordships will assure us that the giving their names to you shall be no prejudice to the Persons who did subscribe if at any time any of them shall be found within your Quarters we will forthwith deliver their names to you otherwise we conceive your Lordships cannot but give credit to that We have said and shewed to you all which we hope hath clearly satisfied your Lordships that the Cessation with the Rebels was neither unjust or unlawfull and that you will proceed to satisfie us by what meanes the Warre may be managed in Ireland with probable hope of the
had continued thene since that Cessation have returned Touching the Committee sent into Ireland we have already answered they were not discountenanced by His Majesty in what they lawfully might doe although they went without his Privity but conceive your Lordships will not insist that they should sit with the Privy Councell there and assume to themselves to advise and interpose as Privy Councellors And we againe deny the Subscriptions of the Officers of the Army was diverted by His Majesty and it is well knowne that some Officers apprehending upon some Specches that the drift in requiring Subscriptions was to engage the Army against His Majesty in detestation there of upon those Speeches rent the book of Subscription in peeces For the diversion of the moneys raised for that Warre if they had been since repayed the contrary whereof is credibly informed to His Majesty yet that present diversion might be and we beleeve was a great meanes of the future wants of that Kingdome which indueed the Cessation As to the Lord Wharton's Commission we conceive we have already fully satisfied your Lordships the just reasons thereof For the Letters whereof your Lordships had Copies we conceive that you being thereby satisfied of the Contents and that they came from the Lord Iustices and Councell there your Lordships need not doubt of the truth of the matter And for the names of the single persons subscribing we cannot conceive it is desired for any other purpose then to be made use of against such of them as should come into your Quarters you having not granted though desired that it shall not turn to their prejudice if we should give in their Names Vpon what hath been said it appeares That His Majesties English Protestant Subjects in Ireland could not subsist without a Cessation And that the Warre there cannot be maintained or prosecuted to the subduing of the Rebels there during the continuance of this unnaturall Warre here it is evident to any man that shall consider that this Kingdome labouring in a Warre which imployes all the Force and wealth at home cannot nor will spare considerable Supplies to send abroad or if it could yet whiles there are mutuall Iealousies that there cannot be that concurrence in joynt advices betwixt the King and the two Houses as will be necessary if that Warre be prosecuted And that His Majesty cannot condescend or your Lordships in reason expect His Maiesty should by his Consent to Acts of Parliament for the managing of that Warre and raising monyes to that purpose put so great a power into their hands who during these Troubles may if they will turne that power against Him And it is apparent that the continuance of the Warre here must inevitably cause the continuance of the miseries there and endanger the rending of that Kingdome from this Crowne The King's Commissioners other Paper 10. February WE do very much wonder that it doth not clearly appeare CLXXVI to your Lordships that upon any difference between the Committees of both Kingdoms in the managing the War of Ireland in the manner proposed by your Lordships the War there must stand still or be dissolved for if the Ordinance of the 11th of April be by His Majesties Royall assent made an Act of Parliament as your Lordships desire all the Forces of that Kingdom both Brittish and Scottish are put under the absolute Command of the Earle of Leven the Scottish Generall and the managing the War commited wholy to the Committee of both Kingdoms without any reference to the two Houses of the Parliament of England by themselves so that whatsoever your Lordships say of your intentions that the two Houses of Parliament here shall upon such difference mannage the War which yet you say must be observing the Treaty of the 6th of August and the said Ordinance of the 11th of April it is very evident if that Ordinance should be made a Law the War must stand still or be dissolved upon difference of opinion between the Committee of both Kingdoms or else the Earle of Leven must carry on that War according to his discretion for he is in no degree bound to observe the Orders or directions of the Houses of Parliament in England by themselves neither doth the asking His Maiesties consent at all alter the case from what we stated it to your Lordships in our paper of the 20 of this instant for we said then and we say still that if His Maiesty should consent to what you propose He would devest Himself of all His Royall Power in that Kingdom and reserve no power or authority in Himselfe over that War which is most necessary for His Kingly office to do for your Lordships expression when there shall be a Leivtenant of Ireland we presume your Lordships cannot but be informed that His Maiesty hath made and we doubt not but you acknowledg He hath power to make the Lord Marquisse of Ormond His Leivtenant of that Kingdome and who is very well able to manage and carry on that War in such manner as shall be thought necessary for the good of that Kingdom and there is no question but that the naming the Earle of Leven to be Generall to receive Orders only from the ioynt Committee of both Kingdoms doth more take away the power of the two Houses here then if he were a Native of this Kingdom and to obey the Orders of the two Houses And we conceive it evident that the giving the absolute Command of all Forces both Brittish and Scottish to the Earle of Leven Generall of the Scottish Forces who is to manage the Warre according to the Directions of the ioynt Committee of both Kingdoms doth not amount to lesse then to deliver the whole Kingdom of Jreland over into the hands of His Maiesties Subiects of the Kingdom of Scotland therefore we must aske your Lordships pardon to believe out selves obliged in prudence honour Conseience very much to insist on that Consideration and very earnestly to recommend the same to your Lordships And we conceive it most conducing to the good of His Majesties Service and of that Kingdom that the Lievtenant and Iudges there be nominated as they have alwayes been by His Majesty who will be sure to imploy none in places of so great Trust but such whose knowne ability and integrity shall make them worthy and if at any time he shall find himself deceived by those he shall choose can best make them examples of His Iustice as they have bin of His Grace Favour and we beseech your Lordships to consider how impossible it is for His Maiestie to receive that measure of duty everence and application which is due to Him and His Royall Progenitors have alwayes enjoyed if it be not in His owne immediate power to reward those whom he shall by experience discern worthy of publick trust imployment We have made no difficulty to your Lordships of His Maiesties consenting to Acts for the raising of moneys and
unable to break the agreement which should be now made by him and on his part so it is most necessary that all apprehension and danger of such breach being over that soveraign power of the Militia should revert into the proper channell and be as it hath alwaies been in His Majesties proper and peculiar charge And therefore we have proposed that the time limited for that trust should be for three years which by the blessing of God will product a perfect understanding between His Majesty and all His people and if there should be any thing else necessary to be done in this argument either for power or time that the same be considered after the settlement of Peace in Parliament but whatever is now or hereafter shall be thought necessary to be done we desire may by so setled that this Kingdom may depend upon it selfe and not be subject to the Lawes or advice of Scotland as we think sit that Scotland should not receive rules or advice from this having offered the like for Scotland as for England In the businesse of Ireland your Lordships propose not only that His Maiesty diselaime and make voyd the Cessation made by His Royall Authority and at the desires of the Lords Iustices and Councell of that Kingdom and for the preservation of the remainder of His poore Protestant Subiects there who were in evident danger of destruction both by Famine and the Sword but also to put the whole managery of that Warre and disposall of the Forces within that Kingdom and consequently the Government of that Kingdom into the hands of the Scots Generall to be managed by the advice of a joynt Committee of both Kingdoms wherein each should have a Negative Voyce In Answer to which we have acquainted your Lordships with the just grounds of His Majesties proceedings in the businesse of Ireland which we are confident being weighed without preiudice may satisfy all men of His Maiesties Piety and Iustice therein And we are very ready and desirous to joyne with your Lordships in any course which may probably preserve and restore that miserable Kingdom Having put your Lordships in mind of these particulars as they have a generall reference to the publique good of the Kingdomes we beseech your Lordships to consider that we have this great Trust reposed in us by His Maiesty and to remember how farre these Propositions trench upon His peculiar Kingly Rights without any or any considerable recompence or compensation In the businesse of Religion your Lordships propose the taking away the His whole Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction His Donations and Temporalties of Bishopricks His first Fruits and Tenths of Bishops Deanes and Chapters instead whereof your Lordships do not offer to constitute the least dependance of the Clergy upon His Maiesty and for that so considerable a part of His Revenue you propose only the Bishops Lands to be setled on His Maiesty reserving a power to dispose even those Lands as you shall think fit whereas all the Lands both of Bishops Deanes and Chapters if those Corporations must be dissolved doe undoubtedly belong to His Majesty in His own Right In the businesse of the Militia as it is proposed His Majesty is so totally divested of the Regall Power of the Sword that He shall be no more able either to assist any of His Allies with ayd though men were willing to engage themselves voluntarily in that service or to defend His own Dominions from Rebellion or invasion and consequently the whole power of Peace and Warre the acknowledged and undoubted Right of the Crowne is taken from Him In the businesse of Ireland the power of nominating His Lievtenant or Deputy and other Officers there of managing directing or in the least manner of medling in that Warre or of making a Peace is proposed to be taken from Him and to adde to all these attempts upon His Kingly Rights it is proposed to bereave Him of the Power of a Father in the Education and Marriage of His own Children and of a Master in the rewarding His own Servants And therefore we referre it to your Lordships whether it be possible for us with a good Conscience and discharge of the Trust reposed in us to Consent to the Propositions made to us by your Lordships Lastly we must observe to your Lordships That after a Warre of neare foure years for which the Defence of the Protestant Religion the Liberty and Property of the Subject and the Priviledges of Parliament were made the cause and grounds in a Treaty of Twenty daies nor indeed in the whole Propositions upon which the Treaty should be there hath been nothing offered to be Treated concerning the breach of any Law or of the Liberty or Property of the Subject or Priviledge of Parliament but only Propositions for the altering a Governmenment Established by Law and for the making new Lawes by which almost all the old are or may be cancelled and there hath been nothing insisted on of our part which was not Law or denied by us that you have demanded as due by Law All these things being considered and being much afflicted that our great hope and expectation of a Peace is for the present frustrated by your Lordships * See their last Paper Declaration that no more time will be allowed for this Treaty we are earnest Suitors to your Lordships that you will interpose with the two Houses to whom we beleeve you have transmitted the Answers delivered by us to your Lordships upon Religion the Militia and Ireland That this Treaty though for the present discontinued may be revived and the whole matter of their Propositions and those sent to them by His Majesty which have not yet been Treated on may be considered and that depending that Treaty to the end we may not Treat in Bloud there may be a Cessation of Armes and that the poor People of this Kingdome now exposed to Plundrings and Spoyles and other direfull effects of Warre may have some earnest of a blessed Peace And because this Treaty is now expiring if your Lordships cannot give a present Resolution we desire when you have represented this to the two Houses His Majesty may speedily receive their Answer Their Answer 22. Febr. WE conceive your Lordships cannot in reason expect an answer CXCVII to the long paper delivered to us very late this night at the close of the Treaty a thing of many dayes labour which we apprehend to be rather a declaration upon the Treaty then any part thereof and we could not imagine would be offered but we cannot forbeare upon the reading thereof to mention thus much That it seemes by many particulars in that Declaration it was resolved the Treaty should end with the 20 dayes the meanes to continue it being well known to be a good progresse in the Propositions for Religion the Militia and Ireland and by what we havâ— received we cannot find any satisfaction in these was intended to be agreed unto To that whereby
your Lordships ascribe so much to your own Concessions we shall only say That for Religion you have granted very little or nothing but what we are already in possession oâ— by the Lawes of this Kingdome For the businesse of the Militia your Lordships have not thought fit to consent to any one of ouâ— demands but in that as in Religion have made some new Propositions of your own which are not in any degree sufficient for setling and securing the Peace of the Kingdoms As for the Propositions for Ireland your Lordships have bin so far from affording a consent thereto that you have iustified the distructive Cessation there and strongly implyed an intention to renew the same and have not yeelded to any part of our Propositions concerning that Kingdomâ— we shall represent your Lordships papers to the Parliaments of both Kingdoms who upon due consideration thereof will do what is farther necessary for the good and Peace of His Maiesties Dominions Besides these severall desires aboue mentioned from time to time for addition and enlargment of time for continuing and prolonging the Treaty or if discontinued that it might be revived and after a representation to the Houses their answer might be sent to His Maiesty In another paper before No. 135. upon the head of the Militia His Maiesties Commissioners did propose That if the Treaty might not then continue it might be Adiourned for such time as they should think fit and not totally dissolve but be again resumed which paper is not here inserted to avoyd repetition being before upon the head of Militia and to which as to that point of Adiournment no answer was given No papers were given in to their Commissioners in answer to the last mentioned paper dated the 22 of Feb. No. 197 which came in about two of the clock in the morning after Nor to that of the same date No. 135. concerning the Militia which came in with it Nor to their two last concerning Ireland of the 22 of Feb. N o 177 and 178 which came in about 12 of the clock that night all which were of such length delivered upon the close of the Treaty and those which came in about two of the clock upon the departure of the Commissioners that it was impossible to give present answers nor could any be given after as part of the Treaty without consent which was required by His Maiesties Commissioners but not granted neither is any thing here inserted in answer to those papers because by the agreements between the Commissioners in the beginning of the Treaty nothing was to be taken as part of the Treaty but what should be put in writing And this Relation is intended only for a Narrative of the Treaty conformable to the agreements without any observations upon it or additions unto it other then necessary Introductions and Transitions for coherence and more cleare understanding the Passages of the Treaty FINIS THE APPENDIX HIS MAIESTIES MESSAGE FROM EVESHAM of the 4th of Iuly 1644. To the LORDS and COMMONS of Parliament Assembled at Westminster CHARLES R. WEE being deeply sensible of the miseries I. and calamities of this Our Kingdom and of the grievous sufferings of Our poor Subjects do most earnestly desire that some expedient may be found ouâ— which by the blessing of God may prevent the further effusion of blood and restore the Nation to Peace from the earnest and constant endeavouring of which as no discouragement given Vs on the contrary part shall make Vs cease so no successe on Ours shall ever divert Vs. For the effecting whereof We are most ready and willing to condescend to all that shall be for the good of Vs and Our People whether by way of confirmation of what we have already granted or of such further coâ—cession as shall be requisite to the giving a full Assurance of the Performance of all Our most reall Professions concerning the maintenance of the true Reformed Protestant Religion established in this Kingdom with due regard to the ease of tender coâ—sciences the just Priviledges of Parliament and the Liberty and Property of the Subject according to the Lawes of the Land As also by granting a generall Pardon without or with exceptions as shall be thought fit In order to which blessed Peace We do desire and propound to the Lords aâ—d Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster That they appoynt such and so many Persons as they shall think fit sufficiently authorizâ—d by them to attend Vs at Our Army upon safe conduct to come and returne which we doe hereby grant and conclude with Vs how the Premisses and all other things in question betwixt Vs and them may be fully setled whereby all unhappy mistakings betwixâ— Vs and Our People being removed there may be a present Cessation of Armes and as soon as may be a totall Disbanding of all Armies the Subject have his due and We be restored to Our Rights Wherein if this Our offer shall be accepted there shall be nothing wanting on Our part which may make our people secure and happy Given at Our Court at Evesham the 4. of Iuly 1644. His Majesties Message from Tavestock of the 8. of September 1644. To the Lords and Commons of Parliament Assembled at Westminster CHARLES R. IT having pleased God in so eminent a II. manner lately to blesse Our Armies in these parts with successe We do not so much joy in that blessing for any other consideration as for the hopes We have that it may be a meanes to maâ—e others lay to heart as We do the miseries brought and continued upon Our Kingdom by this unnaturall War and that it may open your eares and dispose your mindes to embrace those offers of Peace and Reconciliation which have been so often and so earnestly made unto you by Vs and from the constant and fervent endeavours of which We are resolved never to desist In Pursuance whereof We do upon this occasion conjure you to take into consideration Our too long neglected Message of the fourth of Iuly from Evesham which We again renue unto you And that you will speedily send Vs such an Answer thereunto as may shew unto Our poor Subjects some light of a deliverance from their present calamities by a happy Accommodation toward which We do here engage the word of a King to make good all those things which We have therein promised and really to endeavour a happy conclusion of this Treaty And so God direct you in the wayes of Peace Given at Our Court at Tavestock the 8. of September 1644. THE BILL FOR ABOLISHING EPISCOPACY WHEREAS the Government of the III. Church of England by Arch-Bishops Bishops their Chancellours and Commissaries Deanes Deanes and Chapters Arch-Deacons and other Ecclesiasticall Officers depending upon the Hierarchy hath by long experience been found to be a great impediment to the perfect Reformation growth of Religion and very prejudiciall to the Civill State Government of the Kingdom Be it therefore
and pay unto all and every Arch-Bishop Bishop Deane Sub-deane Arch-Deacon Chanter Chancellour Treasurer Sub-Treasurer Succentor Sacrist â—rebendary Cannon Cannon Residentiary Pettie Cannon Vicars Chorall Choristers old Vicars and new Vicars and other Officers and persons belonging unto or now imployed in or about the said Cathedrall or collegiate Churches such yearely Stipends and Pensions for so long time and in such manner as by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled shall be ordered dirâ—cted and appointed And shall dispose of all and singular the aforesaid Mannors Lands Tithes Appropriations Advowsons Tenements Hereditaments and other the Premisses and of every part and parcell thereof and of the Revenues Rents Issues and profits thereof to the uses intents and purposes above and hereafter expressed that is to say for a competent maintenance for the suâ—port of such a number of preaching Ministers for the service of every Caâ—heâ—rall and collegiate Church and His Majesties free Chappell of Windsor as by the Lords and Commons shall be ordered and appointed And likâ—wise for the maintenance of preaching Ministers throughout the Kingdom of Eâ—gland Dommion of Wales and Town of Barwâ—â—k in such places where such maintenance is wanting and for a proportionable allowance for and towards the reparation of the said Cathedrall and collegiate Churches in such manner and forme and to such persons and for such other good uses to the advancement of true Religion and the maintenance of Piety and Learning as by this or any other Act or Acts of Parliament now or hereafter to be made shall be set down or declared And be it further enacted by the Authority aforesaid that all Leases Guifts Grants Conveyances Assurances and Estates whatsoever hereafter to be made by the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peeter Malbourne Esqu the Survivors and Survivor of them or the greater part of them his and their Heires and Assignes of any the Mannors Lands Tenements or Hereditaments within or by this Act shall come or be limited or disposed of unto the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peeter Malbourne Esquire other then for the Terme of one and Twenty yeares or three Lives or some other Terme of yeares determinable upon one two or three Lives and not above from the time as any such Lease or Grant shall be made or granted whereupon the accustomed yearely Rent or more shall be reserved and payable yearely during the said Terme whereof any former Lease is in being and not to be Expired surrendred or ended within three yeares after the making of such Lease shall be utterly voyd and of none effect to all Intents Constructions and purposes any thing in this Act to the contrary in any wise notwithstanding Provided neverthelesse where no Lease hath been heretofore made nor any such Rent hath been reserved or payable of any the Lands Tenements or Hereditaments in this Act limited or disposed of unto the said Sir Williâ—m Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohâ— Packer Esqu Peter Malbourne Esqu that in such case it shall be lawfull for the said Sir William Roberts Knigâ—t Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peter Malbâ—urne Esqu the Survivors and Survivor of them or the greater part of them his and their Heires to make any Lease or state for the Terme of one and Twenty yeares or three Lives or some other Terme of yeares determinable upon one two or three Lives and not above taking such Fine as they in their Judgements shall conceive indifferent and reserving a reasonable Rent not being under the third part of the clear yearely value of the Lands Tenements or Hereditaments contained in such Lease And it is further Declared to be the true intent and meaning of this Act That all and every the Lessees Farmors and Tenants of all and every the said Persons and Corporations whosâ— Offices or places are taken away by this Statute now having holding or enjoying any Estate Terme or Interest in possession by himselfe his under Tenants or Assignes of or in any Mannors Lands Tenements Appropriations or other Hereditaments whatsoever shall and may be preferred in the taking and renuing of any Estates Leases or Grants of any such Mannors Lands Tenements or Hereditaments before any other Person the said Lessees Farmors or Tenants or other Parties interessed as aforesaid desiring the same and giving such Fines Rents and other considerations for the same as by the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Peter Malbourne Esquires or the Survivors or Survivor of them or the major part of them his or their Heires or Assignes shall be thought and held just and reasonable Provided also and be it enacted by the Authority aforesaid that all and singular Revenues Rents Issues Fees Profits Summes of Money and allowances whatsoever as have heretofore been and now ought to be paid disposed or allowed unto or for the maintenance of any Grammer Schoole or Schollars or for or towards the Reparation of any Church Chappell High-way Causey Bridge Schoole-house Almes-house or other charitable use payable by any the Corporations or Persons whose Offices or places are taken away by this Act or which are chargeable upon or ought to issue out of or be paid for or in respect of the said premisses or any of them shall be and continue to be paid disposed and allowed as they were and have been heretofore any thing in this present Act to the contrary thereof notwithstanding And to the intent and purpose the Parliament may be certainly and clearly informed of the premisses to the end the same may be distributed applied imployed to and for such pious and godly uses and purposes as is intended and herein declared Be it ordained and enacted that the Lord Keeper of the Great Seale of England for the time being shall by vertue of this Act have full Power and Authority and is hereby required to award and issue forth severall Commissions under the Great Seale of England into all and every the Counties and Cities with in the Kingdome of England and Dominion of Wales to be directed unto such and so many Persons as bâ— the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled shall be nominated assigned and appointed thereby authorizing and requiring thâ—m or any five or more of them and giving them full Power and â—uthority by the Oathes of good and lawfull men as by all other good and lawfull wayes and meanes to inquire and find out what Mannors Castles Lordships Granges Messuages Lands Tenements Meadowes Leasues Pastures Woods Rents Reversions Services Parsonages appropriate Tithes Oblations Obventions Pensions
or any thing therein contained shall not give unto the persons aforesaid or any of them nor shall they in this assemblâ— assume to exercise any Iurisdiction Power or Authority Ecclesiasticall whatsoever or any other Power then is herein particularly expressed The Votes or Orders delivered with it Die Mercurii 5. Iulii 1643. ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled VI. That it shall be propounded to the Assembly to Morrow at their meeting to take into their Consideration the Tenne first Articles of the 39 Articles of the Church of Englanâ— to free and Vindicate the Doctrine of them from all Aspersions and false interpretations Iovis 6. Iulii 1643. Some generall Rules for the Assembly directed by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled 1. THat two Assessors be joyned to the Prolocutor to supply his place in case of Absence or Infirmity 2. Two Scribes to be appoynted to set downe all proceedings and these to be Divines who are not Members of the Assembly viz. Mr Henry Rowberry and Mr Adoniram By feild 3. Every Member at his first entrance into the Assembly shall make a serious and solemne Protestation not to maintain any thing but what he believes to be Truth and to embrace Truth in sincerity when discovered to him 4. No Resolution to be given upon any Question on the same day wherein it is first Propounded 5. What any man undertakes to prove as necessary he shall make good out of the Scriptures 6. No man to proceed in any dispute after the Prolocutor hath enjoyned him silence unlesse the Assembly desire he may goe on 7. No man to be deemed to enter his dissent from the Assembly and his Reasons for it in any poynt after it hath first been debated in the Assembly And thence if the dissenting party desire it to be sent to the Houses of Parliament by the Assembly not by any particular Man or Men in a private way when either House shall require it 8. All things agreed on and prepared for the Parliament to be openly Read and allowed in the Assembly and then offered as the Iudgement of the Assembly if the Major part Assent Provided that the opinion of any Persons dissenting and the Reasons urged for it be annexed thereunto if the dissenters require it together with the Solutions if any were given in the Assembly to those Reasons Jovis 6. Iulii 1643. I A. B. doe seriously and solemnly in the presence of Almighty God that in this Assembly whereof I am a Member I will not maintain any thing in matters of Doctrine but what I think in my Conscience to be Truth or in point of Disciâ—line but what I shall conceive to conduce most to the glory of God and the good and Peace of his Church Veneris 15. Sept. 1643. ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled That it be referred to the Assembly of Divines to set forth a Declaration of the Reasons and Grounds that have induced the Assembly to give their Opinions that this Covenant may be taken in poynt of Conscience Eodem Die ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled that it be referred to the Committee formerly appointed to Treat with the Scotch Commissioners to Treat with them about the manner of taking the Covenant in both Kingdoms Mercurii 22. August 1643. ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled that it be prâ—pounded to the Assembly of Divines to consider of the Doctrine of the Nine next Articles of the â—9 Articlâ—s of the Church of England to cleare and vindicate the same from all Aspersions and false interpretations The Articles of the sixt of August 1642. ARTICLES of the Treaty concerning the Reducing of the Kingdome of Ireland to the Obedience of the Kings Majesty and Crowne of England agreed upon between the Commissioners for Scotland authorized by Hiâ— Majesty and the Parliament of that Kingdome and the Commissioners for England authorized by His Majesty and the Parliament of that Kingdome at Westminster the sixt day of August 1642. FIrst The Scottish Commissioners out of the sense of that duty VII which the Kingdome of Scotland owes to His Majesty and the true affection they beare towards the Kingdome of England being willing to contribute their best assistance for the speedy reliefe of those distressed parts in Ireland which lye nearest the Kingdome of Scotland Have in the name of that Kingdome made offer of Ten Thousand Men to be imployed in that Service And for a further Testimony of their Zeale to His Majesties Service and Brotherly respect to the Kingdome of England have declared that the Kingdome of Scotland will upon their owne Charge Levy and Transport these Men. Secondly Because the Kingdome of Scotland are to send over with their Army the number of six thousand Muskets and foure thousand Pikes with such Canon and Ammunition as shall be fitting for the service It is agreed that foure thousand Muskets and two thousand Pikes shall be presently sent by the Kingdom of England into the Kingdom of Scotland and delivered at Lâ—â—th As also that the residue of the said ten thousand Armes and ten thousand Swords and Belts shall be delivered there at the first of August next And that as many Canon and Field-Peeces of the same bore weight and mettle shall be carryed into Scotland upon their demand as they shall Transport into Ireland for thâ— sâ—â—vice of that Kingdome And that the said whole Armes and Ammunition shall remaine in Scotland untill the returne of the Scâ—ttish Army from Ireland At which time the same shall be restored to the Kingdome of England the Kingdome of Scotland receiving satisfaction for such of their Armes and Ammunition as shall be spent or lost in the service of Ireland As also that there shall be presently sent over from England and delivered to the Scottish Army in Ireland for the defence of the Province of Vlster sixe Peeces of Demy Canon of the Ball of Foure and twenty pound weigh◠〈◊〉 their Equipage Thiâ—â—â—y It is agreed That there shall be two Ships of Warre presâ—â—tâ—â—â—â—nt by the Kingdome of England to Lochryan Lamalâ—c◠〈◊〉 Patrick or Air to Guard and waft over the Scottish Souldiâ—â—s And that the said Ships shall attend at the Ports in Irâ—â—and for serving the Scottish Army in going and returning betwixt the Coasts and keeping the Passages cleare as they shall receive Orders from the chiefe Commanders of the Scottish Army for the time being according to Instructions received or to be received by the Master of these Ships from the Lord Admirall or Commissioners of the Admiralty for the time being to that purpose Fourthly It is agreed That there shall be Levyed and furnished by the Kingdome of England ten Troopes of sufficient and well Armed Horsemen consisting of sixty in a Troop besides the Officers And that there shall be a Commissary Generall a Serjeant-Major and a Quarter-master appointed over them which shall joyne and remaine with the Body
deluding the Lawes and for the better discovering and speedy conviction of Recusants an Oath be Established by Act of Parliament to be administred to them wherein they shall abjure and renounce the Popes Supremacy the Doctrine of Transubstantiation Purgatory worshipping of the consecrated Hoast Crucifixes and Images and all other Popish Superstitions and Errors and refusing the said Oath being tendred in such manner as shall be appoynted by the said Act to be sufficient conviction in Law of Recusancie 7. An Act of Parliament for education of the Children of Papists by Protestants in the Protestant Religion 8. An Act for the true leavying of the penalties against them which penalties to be leavyed and disposed in such manner as both Houses shall agree on wherein to be provided that His Majesty shall have no losse 9. That an Act be passed in Parliament whereby the practices of Papists against the State may be prevented and the Lawes against them duely executed and a stricter course taken to prevent the saying or hearing of Masse in the Court or any other part of this Kingdome 10. The like for the Kingdome of Scotland concerning the foure last preceeding Propositions in such manner as the Estates of Parliament there shall thinke fit 11. That the King doe give His Royall Assent To an Act for the due observation af the Lords day And to the Bill for the suppression of Innovations in Churches and Chappell 's in and about the Worship of God And for the better advancement of the Preaching of Gods holy Word in all parts of this Kingdome And in the Bill against the enjoying of Plaralities of Benefices by spirituall Persons and non-Residencie And to an Act to be framed and agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament for the reforming and regulating of both Vniversities of the Colledges of Westminster Winchester and Eaton And to an Act in like manner to be agreed upon for the suppression of Interludes and Stage-playes This Act to be perpetuall And to an Act for the taking the Accompts of the Kingdom And to an Act to be made for reliefe of sick and maymed Souldiers and of poor Widdowes and children of Souldiers And to such Act or Acts for raising of Moneyâ— for the payment and satisfying of the publique Debts and Damages of the Kingdome and other publique uses as shall hereafter be agreed on by both Houses of Parliament And to an Act or Acts of Parliament for taking away the Court of Wards and Liveries and all Wardships Liveries Primer seisins and Ouster le maynes and all other charges incident or arising for or by reason of Wardship Livery Primer seisin or Ouster le Maine And for the taking away of all tenures by homage and all Fines Licenses Seisures and Pardons for alienation and all other charges incident thereunto and for turning of all Tenures by Knights service either of His Majesty or others or by Knights service or soccage in Capite of His Majesty into free and common soccagâ— And that His Majesty will please to accept in recompence hereof one hundred thousand pounds per annum And give assurance of his consenting in the Parliament of Scotland to an Act ratifying the Acts of Convention of the Estates of Scotland called by the Councell and Conservatory of Peace and the Commissioners for the common Burthens and assembled the 22 day of Iune 1643. and severall times continued since in such manner and with such additions and other Acts as the Estates convened in this present Parliament shall thinke convenient 12. That an Act be passed in the Parliament of both Kingdomes respectively for confirmation of the Treaties passed betwixt the two Kingdoms viz. the large Treaties the late Treaty for the comming of the Scots Army into England and the setling of the Garrison of Berwick of the 29 of November 1643. And the Treaty concerning Ireland of the 6th of August 1642. with all other Ordinances and proceedings passed betwixt the two Kingdomes in pursuance of the said Treaties 13. That an Act of Parliament be passed to make voyd the Cessation of Ireland and all Treaties with the Rebels without consent of both Houses of Parliament and to settle the prosecution of the Warre of Ireland in both Houses of Parliament to be mannaged by the joynt advice of both Kingdomes And the King to assist and to doe no Act to discountenance or molest them therein 14. That an Act be passed in the Parliament of both Kingdomes respectively for establishing the joynt Declaration of both Kingdomes bearing date the 30th of Ianuary 1643. in England and 1644 in Scotland with the qualifications ensuing 1. That the Persons who shall expect no Pardon be onely these following RUPERT and MAURICE Count Palatines of the Rhene Iames Earle of Derby Iohn Earle of Bristoll William Earle of Newcastle Francie Lord Cottington Iohn Lord Pawlet George Lord Digby Edward Lord Littleton William â—aud Arch-bishop of Canterbury Matthew Wren Bishop of Ely Sir Robert Heath Knight Doctor Bramhall Bishop of Derty Sir Iohn Byron Knight William Widdrington Colonell George Goring Henry â—ermin Esq Sir Ralph Hopton Sir Francis Doddington M Endymion Porter Sir George Ratcliffe Sir Marmacuke Langdale Sir Iohn Hotham Captain Iohn Hotham his sonne Sir Henry Vaughan Sir Francis Wirdebanke Sir Richard Greenvile M r Edward Hyde Sir Iohn Marley Sir Nicholas Cole Sir Thomas Riddell Iunior Colonell Ware Sir Iohn Strangwayes Sir Iohn Culpepper Sir Richard Floyd Iohn Bodvile Esq M. David Ienkins Sir George Strode Sir Alexander Carew Marquisse of Huntley Earle of Montrosse Earle of Niddisdaill Earle of Traquayre Earle of Carnewath Viscount of Aubayne Lord Ogleby Lord Rae Lord Harris Lodwick Lindsey some time Earle of â—rawford Patrick Ruthen sometime Earle of Forth Iames King sometimes Lord Ethyn â—â—uing younger of Drunim Gordon younger of Gight Lesley of Auchintoâ—le Sir Robert Spotswood of Dumipace Colonell Iohn Cockram Mr Iohn Maxwell sometime pretended Bishop of Rosse M. Walter Balcanquall and all such others as being processed by the Estates for Treason shall be condemned before the Act of Oblivion be passed 2. All Papists and Popish Recusants who have been now are or shall be actually in Armes or Voluntarily assisting against the Parliaments or Estates of either Kingdom 3. All persons who have had any hand in the plotting designing or assisting the Rebellion in Ireland 4. That Humphrey Bennet Esquire Sir Edward Ford Sir Iohn Penruddock Sir George Vaughan Sir Iohn Weld Sir Robert Lee Sir Iohn Pate Iohn Ackland Edmund Windham Esquires Sir Iohn Fitzherbert Sir Edward Laurence Sir Ralph Dutton Henry Lingen Esq Sir William Russell of Worcestershire Thomas Lee of Adlington Esq Sir Iohn Girlington Sir Paul Neale Sir William Thorald Sir Edward Huffey Sir Tho. Lyddell Senior Sir Philip Musgrave Sir Iohn Digby of Nottingh Sir Hen Fletcher Sir Richard Minshall Laurence Halsteed Iohn Denham Esquires Sir Edmond Fortescue Peter St Hill Esq Sir Thomas Tildesley Sir Hen Griffith Michaell Wharton Esq Sir Hen. Spiller Sir George Benion Sir Edward
Nicholas Sir Edward Walgrove Sir Edward Bishop S â— Robert Owsley Sr Iohn Maney Lord Cholmely Sir Thomas Aston Sir Lewis Dives Sir Peter Osborne Samuell Thorneton Esq Sir Iohn Lucas Iohn Blomey Esq Sir Thomas Chedâ—e Sir Nicholas Kemish and Hugh LLoyd Esq And all such of the Scottish Nation as have concurred in the Votes at Oxford against the Kingdom of Scotland and their proceedings or have Sworne or Subscribed the Declaration against the Convention and Covenant And all such as have assisted the Rebellion in the North or the invasion in the South of the said Kingdome of Scotland or the late Invasion made there by the Irish and their Adherents And that the Members of either House of Parliament who have not only deserted the Parliament but have also Voted both Kingdoms Traytors may be removed from His Majesties Councells and be restrained from comming within the Verge of the Court and that they may not without the advice and consent of both Kingdoms beare any Office or have any employment concerning the State or Commonwealth And also that the Members of either House of Parliament who have deserted the Parliament and adhered to the Enemies thereof and not rendred themselves before the last of October 1644may be removed from His Majesties Councells and be restrained from comming within the Verge of the Court and that they may not without the advice and consent of both Houses of Parliament beare any Office or have any imployment concerning the State or Common wealth And in case any of them shall offend therein to be guilty of High-Treason and incapable of any Pardon by His Majesty and their Estates to be disposed as both Houses of Parliament in England or the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland respectively shall think fit 5. That by Act of â—arliament all Judges and Officers towards the Law Common or Civill who have deserted the Parliament and adhered to the enemies thereof be made incapable of any place of Iudicature or Office towards the Law Common or Civill And that all Serjeants Councellors and Atturneys Doctors Advocates and Proctors of the Law Common or Civill who have deserted the Parliament and adhered to the Enemies thereof be made incapable of any practice in the Law common or civill either in publique or in private And that they and likewise all Bishops Clergy-men and other Ecclesiasticall persons who have deserted the Parliament and adhered to the enemies thereof shall not be capable of any preferment or imployment either in Church or Common-wealth without the advice and consent of both Houses of Parliament 6. The persons of all others to be free of all personall censure notwithstanding any Act or thing done in or concerning this Warre they taking the Covenant 7. The Estates of those persons excepted in the first three preceeding qualifications to pay double Debts and Damages 8. A third part in full value of the Fstates of the persons made incapable of any imployment as aforesaid to be imployed for the payment of the publique Debts and Damages according to the Declaration 9. And likewise a tenth part of the Estates of all other Delinquents within the joynt Declarations and in case the Estates and proportions aforementioned shall not suffice for the payment of the publique engagements whereunto they are onely to be employed that then a new proportion may be appoynted by the joynt advice of both Kingdomes providing it exceed not the one moyety of the Estates of the persons made incapable as aforesaid and that it exceed not a sixt part of the Estate of the other Delinquents 10. That the persons and Estates of all common Souldiers and others of the Kingdome of England who in Lands or Goods be not worth 200l sterling and the persons and Estates of all common Souldiers and others of the Kingdome of Scotland who in Lands or Goods be not worth 100l sterling be at liberty and discharged 11. That an Act be passed whereby the Debts of the Kingdome and the persons of Delinquents and the value of their Estates may be knowne and which Act shall appoynt in what manner the confiscations and proportions before mentioned may be levyed and applyed to the discharge of the said engagements 15. That by Act of Parliament the Subjects of the Kingdome of England may be appoynted to be Armed Trained and Disciplined in such manner as both Houses shall thinke fit the like for the Kâ—ngdome of Scotland in such manner as the Estates of Parliament there shall thinke fit 16. That an Act of Parliament be passed for the setling of the Admiralty and Forces at Sea and for the raising of such Moneys for maintenance of the said Forces and of the Navy as both Houses of Parliament shall thinke fit the like for the Kingdome of Scotland in such manner as the Estates of Parliament there shall thinke fit 17. An Act for the setling of all Forces both by Sea and Land and Commissioners to be nominated by both Houses of Parliament of persons of knowne integrity and such as both Kingdomes may confide in for their faithfulnesse to Religion and peace of the Kingdomes of the House of Peeres and of the House of Commons who shall be removed or altered from time to time as both Houses shall think fit and when any shall dye others to be nominated in their places by the said Houses which Commissioners shall have power 1. To suppresse any Forces raised without authority of both Houses of Parliament or in the intervalls of Parliaments without consent of the said Commissioners to the disturbance of the publique peace of the Kingdomes and to suppresse any Forraigne Forces that shall invade this Kingdome and that it shall be high Treason in any who shall Leavy any Force without such authority or consent to the disturbance of the publique peace of the Kingdomes any Commission under the Great Seale or warrant to the contrary notwithstanding and they to be incapable of any Pardon from His Majesty and their Estates to be disposed of as both Houses of Parliament shall think fit 2. To preserve the Peace now to be setled and to prevent all disturbance of the publique Peace that may arise by occasion of the late troubles so for the Kingdom of Scotland 3. To have power to send part of themselves so as they exceed not a third part or be not under the number of to reside in the Kingdome of Scotland to assist and Vote as single persons with the Commissioners of Scotland in those matters wherein the Kingdome of Scotland is onely concerned so for the Kingdome of Scotland 4. That the Commissioners of both Kingdomes may meet as a joynt Committee as they shall see cause or send part of themselves as aforesaid to doe as followeth 1. To preserve the Peace betwixt the Kingdomes and the King and every one of them 2. To prevent the violation of the Articles of Peace as aforesaid or any troubles arising in the Kingdoms by breach of the said Articles and to
heare and determine all differences that may occasion the same according to the Treaty and to do further accordingly as they shall respectively receive Instructions from both Houses of Parliament in England or the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland and in the intervalls of Parliaments from the Commissioners for the preservation of the publique Peace 3. To raise and joyne the Forces of both Kingdomes to resist all Forreigne Invasion and to suppresse any Forces raised within any of the Kingdomes to the disturbance of the publique Peace of the Kingdomes by any authority under the great Seale or other warrant whatsoever without consent of both Houses of Parliament in England and the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland or the said Commissioners of that Kingdome whereof they are Subjects and that in those cases of joynt concernment to both Kingdomes the Commissioners to be directed to be there all or such part as aforesaid to act and direct as joynt Commissioners of both Kingdomes 4. To order the Warre of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th of Aprill and to order the Militia and conserve the peace of the Kingdome of Ireland 18. That His Majesty give his assent to what the two Kingdomes shall agree upon in prosecution of the Articles of the large Treaty which are not yet finished 19. That by Act of Parliament all Peeres made since the day that Edward Lord Littleton then Lord Keeper of the Great Seale deserted the Parliament and that the said Great Seale was surreptitiously conveyed away from the Parliament being the 21 day of May 1642. And who shall be hereafter made shall not sit or Vote in the Parliament of England without consent of both Houses of Parliament and that all Honour and Title conferred on any without consent of both Houses of Parliament since the 20th day of May 1642. being the day that both Houses declared That the King seduced by evill Counsell intended to raise Warre against the Parliament be declared nul and voyd The like for the Kingdome of Scotland those being excepted whose Patents were passed the Great Seale before the 4th of Iune 1644. 20. That by Act of Parliament the Deputy or chiefe Governour or other Governours of Ireland be nominated by both Houses of Parliament or in the intervalls of Parliament by the Commissioners to continue during the pleasure of the said Houses or in the intervalls of Parliament during the pleasure of the aforementioned Commissioners to be approved or disallowed by both Houses at their next sitting And that the Chancellor or Lord Keeper Lord Treasurer Commissioners of the Great Seale or Treasury Lord Warden of the Cinque-Ports Chancellors of the Exchequer and Dutchee Secretaries of State Judges of both Benches and of the Exchequer of the Kingdomes of England and Ireland be nominated by both Houses of Parliament to continue quà m diu se bene gesserint and in the intervalls of Parliament by the aforementioned Commissioners to be approved or disallowed by both Houses at their next sitting The like for the Kingdom of Scotland adding the Justice Generall and in such manner as the Estates in Parliament there shall thinke fit 21. That by Act of Parliament the Education of Your Majesties Children and the Children of Your Heires and Successors be in the true Protestant Religion and that their Tutors and Governors be of knowne integrity and be chosen by the Parliaments of both Kingdomes or in the intervalls of Parliaments by the aforenamed Commissioners to be approved or disallowed by both Parliaments at their next sitting And that if they be Male they be Married to such onely as are of the true Protestant Religion if they be Female they may not be married but with the advice and consent of both Parliaments or in the intervalls of Parliament by their Commissioners 22. That your Majesty will give your Royall assent to such wayes and meanes as the Parliaments of both Kingdomes shall think fitting for the uniting of the Protestant Princes and for the entire restitution and Reestablishment of Charles Lodwick Prince Elector Palatine His Heires and Successors to His Electorall Dignity Rights and Dominions Provided that this extend not to Prince Rupert or Prince Maurice or the Children of either of them who have been the Instruments of so much bloudshed and mischiefe against both Kingdomes 23. That by Act of Parliament the concluding of Peace or Warre with Forraigne Princes and States be with advice and consent of both Parliaments or in the intervalls of Parliaments by their Commissioners 24. That an Act of Oblivion be passed in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes respectively relative to the Qualifications in the Propositions aforesaid concerning the joynt Declaration of both Kingdomes with the exception of all Murderers Theâ—ves and other Offendors not having relation to the Warre 25. That the Members of both houses of Parliament or others who have during this Parliament been put out of any Place or Office Pension or benefit for adhering to the Parliament may either be restored thereunto or otherwise have Recompence for the same upon the humble desire of both Houses of Parliament The like for the Kingdome of Scotland 26. That the Armies may be Disbanded at such time and in such manner as shall be agreed upon by the Parliaments of both Kingdomes or such as shall be authorised by them to that effect 27. That an Act be passed for the granting and confirming of the Charters Customes Liberties and Franchises of the City of London notwithstanding any Non-user Mis-user or Abuser That the Militia of the City of London may be in the ordering and Government of the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell assembled or such as they shall from time to time appoint whereof the Lord Major and Sheriffs for the time being to be there And that the Militia of the Parishes without London and the Liberties within the weekly Bills of Mortality may be under Command of the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell of the said City to be ordered in such manner as shall be agreed on and appoynted by both Houses of Parliament That the Tower of London may be in the Government of the City of London and the Chiefe Officer and Governour thereof from time to time be nominated and removeable by the Common-Councell That the Citizens or forces of London shall not be drawn out of the City into any other parts of the Kingdome without their own consent and that the drawing of their Forces into other parts of the Kingdome in these distracted times may not be drawn into example for the future And for prevention of Inconveniencies which may happen by the long intermission of Common-Councels It is desired that there be an Act that all By-Lawes and Ordinances already made or hereafter to be made by the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell assembled touching the calling continuing directing and regulating of the same shall be as effectuall in Law to all intents and purposes as if
effectuating of ye foirsaides endis the concluding of the Propositions with the Estaites th aire results thairupon And all suche uyr matteris conceruing the good of bothe Kingdomes as ar or all be from time to time committed unto thame be the Estaites of yis Kingdome or Committies thairof according to the instructiones givin or to be givin to the Commissionaris abovenameit or their quuorums And for this effect The Estaites Ordeanes Iohne Erle of Lowdonne Chancellor Iohne Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnstounne of Wariestounne Sir Charles Erskyne of Cambuskenneth and Hew Kennedy repaire with all dilligence to the Kingdome of England to the effect before rehearsit conforme to this Commissione and instructiones As also the Estaites Ordeanes ye saides ArchibaldMarqueis of Argyle M. George Dundas of Maner and Sir Iohne Smyth Proveist of Edenburgh to repaire to ye Kingdome of England with all sick conventencie as the occasione of ye businesse shall require or as they sall be commandit ather be the Committie from the Parliament heir they being in Scotland or be the Committie with the Army they being in England And Ordeanes thame to joyne with the remanent Commissionaris to the affect above mentionat conforme to the Commissionâ— and instructiones givin or to be givin to the Commissionais or thair quuorums thair anent be the Estaites of this Kingdome or Committies yrof And the Estaites of Parliament be thir presents haldis and sall halde firme and stable all and what summ evir thinges the Commissionaris abovenameit or any thrie or mae of thame sall doe conforme to this Commisionne and to the instructionnes given or to be given to thame Extractit furthe of the butkes of Parliament be me Sir Alexander Gibsone of Dunâ—ie Knyt Clerk of His Majesties Registers and Rollis under my signâ— and subscriptionne Mannuall Alexander Gibsonne Cler. Regist After the Commissions read their Commissioners delivered to His Majesties Commissioners this paper Ianuary the 30. WEE are directed by Our Instructions to Treat with XIII your Lordships upon the Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland three daies a peice alternis vicibus during the space of twenty dayes from the 30 of Ianuary beginning first with the Propositions of Religion and accordingly we shall deliver unto your Lordships a Paper to morrow morning upon those Propositions Accordingly the Treaty did proceed upon those subjectâ— three daies a piece Alternis vicibus beginning with that of Religion upon Friday the last of Ianuary and so continuing Saturday the first and Monday the third of February which was after resumed Tuesday the 11 Wednesday the 12 and Thursday the 13 of February and again the two last daies of the 20. And the like course was held touching the Militia and Ireland But because the passages concerning each subject severally will be more clearly understood being collected and disposed together under their severall heads therefore all those which concerne Religion the Militia and Ireland are put together And in like manner the passages preparatory to the Treaty concerning the Commissions the manner of the Treaty and a seditious Sermon made the first day appoynted for the Treaty And such as hapned in the Treaty touching His Majesties Propositions The demands of farther time to Treat and other emergent passages which have no Relation to those of Religion the Militia and Ireland are in like manner digested under their severall heads with their particular dates And first those which concerne the Commissions Friday the last of Ianuary His Majesties Commissioners delivered unto Their Commissioners this paper Vlt. Ianuary WEE having perused the power granted to your Lordships XIV in the Paper delivered by the Earle of Northumberland and finding the same to relate to instructions we desire to see those instructions that thereby we may know what power is granted to you and we ask this the rather because by All their Commissioners were not then come to Vxbridge the Powers we have seen we doe not find that your Lordships in the absence of any one of your number have power to Treat Their Answer 31. Ianuary BY Our Instructions we or any tenne of us whereof some of either XV. House of the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland to be present have power to Treat with your Lordships Their farther Answer Vlt. Ianuary VVHereas your Lordships have expressed unto us a desire XVI of seeing our Instructions to know what Power is granted us and this the rather because you say you find not by what you have seen that in the absence of any one of our number we have power to Treat To this we returne in Answer that since the Paper already delivered in by us declaring that by our Instructions any tenne of us whereof some of either House of the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland to be present had power to Treat with your Lordships hath not given you satisfaction in the particular of the Quorum We shall send unto the two Houses of Parliament to have the Quorum inserted in the Commission and doe expect the returne of it so amended within two or three daies when we shall present it unto your Lordships But as for your desire in generall to see our Instructions it is that for which we have no Warrant nor is it as we conceive at all necessary or proper for us so to doe for that the Propositions upon which we now Treat have been already presented from the Parliaments of both Kingdoms unto His Majesty and whatsoever is propounded by us in order unto them is sufficiently warranted by what both Parliaments have done in the passing and sending of those Propositions and by the Commissions authorising us to Treat upon them already shewn unto your Lordships so as there can be no need to shew any other power Accordingly on Saturday the first of February they did deliver their Commission for the English Commissioners renewed as followeth Die Sabbatis primo Febr. BE it Ordained by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament that Algernon Earle of Northumberland Philip XVII Earle of Pembrook and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bazil Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepont Sir Henry Vane junior Oliver St Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew and Edmund Prideaux shall have power and authority and are hereby authorized to joyne with the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland together with Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion only or any tenne of them Whereof some of either House of the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland are to be present To treat with the Lord Duke of Richmond the Marquisse of Hertford the Earle of Southampton the Earle of Kingston the Lord Dunsmore Lord Capell Lord Seymour Sir Christopher Hatton Sir Iohn Culpeper Sir Edward Nicholas Sir Edward Hyde Sir Richard Lane
propounded unto your Lordships But we doe desire as before your Lordships Answers unto our Demands in the same order that we have proposed them not conceiving it reasonable there should be any time spent in debates or Answers upon what we shall hereafter offer till we have received satisfaction in our former Propositions which we desire may be speedily done least otherwise the Treaty be retarded and the Expectation of both Kingdomes altogether frustrated Notwithstanding this they delivered in this further Answer 11. February IN answer to your Lordships Paper this day delivered to us LII See no. 59. we desire that His Majesty doe give His Royall Assent to an Act of Parliament for the due observation of the Lords Day and to the Bill for suppressing of Innovations in Churches and Chappell 's in and about the Worship of God c. And for the better advancement of the Preaching of Gods Holy Word in all parts of this Kingdome And to the Bill against enjoying of Pluraliâ—ies of Benefices by Spirituall persons and non-Residency And we shall in due time give into your Lordships our Demands concerning Papists conteined in the sixth seventh eight ninth and tenth Propositions And for His Majesties Assenting to an Act to be framed and agreed upon in both Houses of Parliament for the regulating and reforming of both Vniversities of the Colledges of Westminster Winchester and Eton and for the Education and Marriage of His Majesties Children and the Children of His Heires and Successors in the true Protestant Religion as is in the 21th Proposition Some part of the 11th and the most part of the 12th of February was spent in Argument by Divines touching Episcopacy and the Presbyteriall Government Afterwards their Commissioners gave in this Paper 12. February THere having now been severall dayes spent in debate upon LIII the Propositions for Religion and all objections alleadged to the contrary either from Conscience Law or Reason being fully Answered and the time allotted for that so important a part of the Treaty almost elapsed we should be wanting to the Trust reposed in us if we should not presse and expect as we now doe a cleare and positive Answer to those Demands concerning Religion which we have offered unto your Lordships from the Parliaments of both Kingdomes as most necessary for the setling of a safe and welâ— groundâ—d Peace in all His Majesties Dominions The King's Commissioners Answer 12. February VVE deny that the objections alleadged by us against the LIV. passing the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy from Conscience Law or Reason have been fully Answered by your Lordships Or that indeed we have received any satiâ—faction from your Lordships in these particulars We have received no Information from your Lordships to satisfy us That Episcopacy is or hath been an impediment to a perfect Reformation to the * These words are in the preamble of the Bill presented by them for abolishing Episcopacy growth of Religion or that it is prejudiciall to the Civill State which we have often desired from your Lordships without effect and which are the Grounds upon which your Lordships propose the abolishing Episcopacy and we shall be very willing and are desirous to receive your Lordships reasons in these particulars And how short soever the time alotted is for the Treaty for which we cannot be answerable being not bound up in point of time by His Majesty as your Lordships say you are by your Instructions And we should be glad that the same might be enlarged proportionably to the importance of the things to be Treated on we should be wanting to the great Trust reposed in us if we should consent to those Demands as they are proposed to us by your Lordships otherwise then as they are agreeable to our Consciences and understandings And such an Answer your Lordships shall receive from us to your Demands concerning Religion upon which we hope a safe and well grounded Peace by the blessing of God may be established Their Paper 13. Feb. WE did assure our selves That after so many dayes debate LV. concerning Religion and our removall of what ever objections have been offered by your Lordships and our making it appeare how great a hinderance Episcopall Government is and hath been to a perfect Reformation to the growth of Religion and prejudiciall to the Civill State That your Lordships would have been ready to have answered our expectation with the Grant of our Demands but if still your Lordships remaine unsatisfied we conceive it cannot with any Justice be imputed unto us and therefore we againe desire your Lordships full and cleare Answer to what we have delivered unto you concerning Religion Vpon this last Paper and after the severall debates between the Commissioners and Arguments by the Divines and considâ—â—ation had of all that had been delivered concerning Religion His Majesties Commissioners gave in these foure Papers following 13. Feb. WE are not yet satisfied that the Bill insisted on by your LVI Lordships which remaines in His Majesties hands for the utter abolishing of Arch-Bishops Bishops Deanes and Chapters c. ought to be enacted believing it not to be agreeable to Conscience and Iustice to alienate the Lands therein mentioned to Lay-uses and not understanding that the alienation thereof is necessary at all to the Reformation of Religion Besides that there is no certaine provision made for any of those who are now legally vested in those possessions whereby they and their Families shall be in evident danger of want of bread and it appearing by your Lordships Propositions which relate See before in the margin to the Paper no. 44. to the Articles of the late Treaty of the date at Edinburgh 29. of Novemb. 1643 and the joynt Declaration of both Kingdoms to which you require our Assent as well as to the Bill that part of the Church-land may be after the passing this Bill assign'd to other uses then is exprest in the said Bill Vpon these considerations and upon your debate which hath passed between us upon this Bill whereby it hath appeared that there would be so great an Alteration in the Civill State by this Bill being enacted in the failer of Iustice at the Common-Law and otherwise in many severall particulars of great importance to the Subjects of this Kingdom which for ought appeares to us is not yet provided for And that by a particular * See that Clause in the Bill in the Appendix no. 3. at this marke †Clause in the Bill His Majestie ancient and undoubted power of the Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction is wholy taken away Besides it may be very considerable what inconveniences would ensue by the passing this Bill now which looks back and is to begin from November was twelve month whereby all those Acts of Iurisdiction exercised by Bishops since that time are already voyde which would produce great inconveniences and mischiefes touching the probates of Wills and Administrations throughout the Kingdome not to speak
Kingdome All which if your Lordships please shall be examined by you with the Originalls And we are therefore of opinion that our Answer formerly delivered is a good Answer to the point of Cessation in question And that it was not unfit for His Maiesty to agree to that Cessation nor destructive to the Protestant Religion nor for the advantage of the Popish Rebells but much for the advantage of the Protestant Subjects there who were in apparent hazard of destruction by Force and Famine occasioned by the want of Supplies which had been promised to them as we have formerly said And we shall give yout Lordships a further Answer to your other Propositions concerning Ireland when the time comes againe for that Debate Here ended the first three dayes of the Treaty concerning Ireland and the night before the return of the next three dayes their Commissioners delivered this Paper 17. February VVE conceived that the Arguments used by us that His CXLVII Maiesty neither had or hath power to make the Cessation with the Rebells of Ireland might have fully satisfied your Lordships and if any doubts yetremaine we are ready by Conference to cleare them Your Lordships may well call to minde the severall Clauses we insisted upon in the Statute and the Arguments we have given from the Common-Law and other proceedings in Parliament And we doe affirme that severall great Summes of Money were paid by particular Persons and by Corporations who according to the true intent of the Statute ought to have the benefit of the same according to divers other Acts of Parliament in pursuance thereof and upon failer of payment by any particular Persons the forfeiture was to accrew to the Common benefit of the rest not failing And we doe deny that the Argument of Interest was at all waved by us And we conceive those wants alleadged by your Lordships if any such were in iustifying the Cessation were supplied from time to time by the Houses of Parliament untill His Maiesties Forces were so Quartered in and about the common Roades to Ireland that Provisions going thither were intercepted and neither Money Clothes Victualls or other things could passe by Land with safety to be transported And when that both Houses of Parliament were desirous further to supply those Wants and for that purpose did tender a Bill to His Majesty It was refused And we still alleadge that we have no reason to be satisfied concerning the Cessation by any Arguments used by your Lordships or by any thing contained in the Extracts of the Letters and Papers delivered to us by your Lordships as from the Lords Justices and Councell of Ireland and the Officers of the Army nor though desired by us have your Lordships afforded us Liberty to compare those Extracts with the Originalls whereby we might have the names of the Persons by whom they were written which we now againe desire We are therefore still clearly of Opinion as is expressed in our former Paper of the 10th of February concerning the Cessation and doe desire your Lordships full Answer to our Demands concerning Ireland The King's Commissioners Answer 18. February VVE did not conceive that your Lordships had beleeved CXLVIII that any Arguments used by you could satisfie us against His Majesties Power to make a Cessation with the Rebellâ— in Ireland which appeares to have been made by Him by the Advice of his Councell there and for the preservation of His Majesties Protestant Subjects of that Kingdome who in all probability would have perished by Famine and the Sword if that Cessation had not been made And we shall be very ready to receive farther Information from your Lordships by Conference or otherwise in that particular either concerning any Clauses in the Statute or Arguments at Common-Law or proceedings of Parliament your Lordships having never mentioned the one or made any Case upon the other upon which you intend to insist And for the severall great Summes of Money that were paid by particular Persons and Corporations upon that Statute mentioned by your Lordships we are sorry that we are compelled by your Lordships insisting thereon to informe your Lordships that His Majesty had cleare information that not only much of the money raised by the Act for the 400 thousand pound which was passed for the better suppressing that most wicked and execrable Rebellion in Ireland and for the payment of the debts of this Kingdom but also of the Mony raised by the Statute on which your Lordships insist for the speedy and effectuall reducing of the Rebels of Ireland c. and other moneys raised by Contribution and Loane for the reliefe of His Majesties distressed Subjects of that Kingdom were expended contrary to the intent of the Acts by which the same were levied and of the Persons who lent and contributed the same towards the maintenance of the Forces in this Kingdom under the Command of the Earle of Essex And that many Regiments of Horse and Foot leavied for the Warre of Ireland under the command of the Lord Wharton the Lord Kerry Sir Faithfull Fortescue and others were likewise imployed in that Army under the Earle of Essex at Edge-Hill and therefore His Majesty refused to consent to the Bill presented to His Majesty after this for the Levying more mony for Ireland justly fearing that the same might be used as the former had been And for the few cloathes for there were no Moneys intercepted by His Majesties Souldiers in His Maiesties Quarters which are said to be intended for Ireland the same were intercepted neere Coventrey and going thither after that City had refused to receive His Maiesty though at the Gates But His Maiesty never refused to give any safe Passe through His Quarters for any Goods or Provisions which were intended or prepared for Ireland neither was the same ever desired For the extracts and Copies of the Letters delivered by us to your Lordships from the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland and the Officers of the Army We have been and are willing that your Lordships should compare them with the Originalls But for your having the names of the Persons who writ the same since there can be no doubt of the truth of our Assertions we conceive it not reasonable to desire the same not knowing what inconvenience any of them since you seem not to like that advice might incurre if at any time they should be found within your Quarters And having now satisfied your Lordships in the Matter of the Cessation we shall gladly proceed in the Treaty with your Lordships upon any thing that may be apparently good for His Maiesties Protestant Subiects there and the resetling of that Kingdom in His Maiesties Obedience Their Reply 18. Feb. WE doe conceive that the Arguments used by us might CXLIX have fully satisfied your Lordships against His Majesties power to make a Cessation with the Rebells in Ireland having answered whatsoever your Lordships have hitherto alleadged to the contrary and
Offered if any other doubts yet remaine by conference to cleare them which still we are ready to doe And we have heard nothing just or reasonable for that Cessation It will be made evident that the necessities which by your Lordships were made excuses for the Cessation were created on purpose to colour the same and we are compelled by your Lordships paper to let you know that the Committees of Parliament sent into Ireland to endeavour to supply their necessities were discountenanced by the principall instruments for that Cessation and when they had taken up 2000l upon their personall security for the Army there they were presently after commanded from the Councell by a Letter brought thither from His Majesty by the Lord Ormonds Secretary And when the Officers of the Army were contented to subscribe for Land in satisfaction of their Arreares it was declared from His Majesty that He disapproved of such subscriptions whereby that course was diverted And we doe affirme that what ever summes of money raised for Ireland were made use of by both Houses of Parliament were fully satisfied with advantage and as we are informed before the Bill mentioned in our former paper was refused by His Majesty And for the Regiments of Horse and Foot mentioned by your Lordships to be raised for Ireland and imployed otherwise by the Houses of Parliament It is true that Forces were so designed and when the Money Armes and other Provisions were all ready and nothing wanting but a Commission from His Majesty for the Lord Wharton who was to Command them the same could not be obtained which was the cause those Forces did not goe thither and when twelve Shipps and six Pinnaces were prepared with 1000 or more land Forces for the service of Ireland and nothing desired but a Commission from His Majesty the Shipps lying ready and staying for the same were three weeks together at 300l a day charge yet the same was denyed though often desired And where your Lordships seem to imply that the provisions seized by His Maiesties Forces were going for Coventrey it was made known to His Maiesty that the same were for Ireland And your Lordships must needs conceive that the papers you delivered to us being but Extracts and for that you deny us so to compare them with the Originalls as to have the names of the Persons by whom they were Written it is altogether unreasonable for us to give any credit to them it being manifest by this and our former papers and debates that the Cessation with the Rebels in Ireland is both unjust and unlawfull We therefore insist on our demands concerning Ireland as apparently good for His Maiesties Subjects there and for reducing that Kingdom to His Maiesties Obedience Before His Maiesties Commissioners gave answer to this last paper they being also to answer the rest of the demands concerning Ireland for their necessary information touching some doubts that did arise upon those demands and the Articles of the Treaty of the 6th of August concerning Ireland and Ordinances delivered with them the Kings Commissioners gave in these severall papers The King's Commissioners first Paper 19. February IN the eight Article of the Treaty for the comming of the CL. Scots Army into England dated 29. Nov. 1643. at Edenbourgh delivered to us by your Lordships among the papers for Ireland and desired by the 12th Proposition to be confirmed by Act of Parliament It is agreed that no Cessation nor any Pacification or agreement for Peace whatsoever shall be made by either Kingdome without the mutuall advice and consent of both Kingdomes or the Committees in that behalfe appoynted who are to have full power for the same in case the Houses of the Parliament of England or the Parliament or Convention of Estates of Scotland shall not sit We desire to know whether that Article extend to any Cessation Pacification or Agreement in Ireland The Answer 19. Febr. WE did in answer to your Lordships Paper of the first of CLI February upon the Propositions concerning Religion deliver the Treaty of the 29th of November 1643. mentioned by your Lordships and not among the Papers for Ireland to which it hath no relation The King's Commissioners Reply 20. February YOur Lordships did deliver the Treaty of the 29th of November CLII. 1642. to us with the Papers concerning Ireland and on the 7th day of this instant February and not upon the first of February upon the Propositions concerning Religion Their Answer 20. Feb. WHen your Lordships peruse your Papers you will rest CLIII satisfied with our Answer of the 19th of this instant to your first Paper that day given to us for it will appeare by your Lordships 3d Paper of the first of February and our Paper given to your Lordships in answer of it that the Treaty of the date at Edenbourgh 29 Novemb. 1643. Was delivered to your Lordships on the first of February upon the Proposition of Religion and not upon the 3d of February with the Papers concerning Ireland The Article of the Treaty of the 29. of November 1643. which occasioned these Papers being by their Papers thus acknowledged not to concerne Ireland and so not pertinent to that subject the Kings Commissioners insisted no farther The King's Commissioners second Paper 19. February BY the 13th Proposition it is demanded that an Act be CLIV. passed to settle the prosecution of the Warre of Ireland in both Houses of Parliament of England to be managed by the joynt advices of both Kingdoms We desire to know Whether if the two Kingdoms shall not agree in their advice touching that Warre each have a Negative voyce or whether the Scots Commander in chiefe of the Forces in Ireland may manage that Warre in such case according to his own discretion Their Answer 19. Febr. IN answer to your Lordships second paper the prosecution of CLV the Warre of Ireland is to be setled in the two Houses of the Parliament of England but is to be managed by a joynt Committee of both Kingdoms wherein the Committee of each Kingdom hath a Negative voyce but in case of disagreement the Houses of Parliament of England may prosecute the Warre as they shall think fit observing the Treaty of the sixth of August 1642. between the two Houses and the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland and the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. delivered to your Lordships formerly The King's Commissioners third paper 19. February BY the 20th Proposition in the Intervals of Parliament the CLVI Commissioners for the Militia have power to nominate the Lord Deputy of Ireland and other Officers aâ—d Judges there We desire to know whether that power be limited to the Commissioners of both Kingdoms or only to the Commissioners for England and whether in such cases the Commissioners in Scotland shall vote as single persons Their Answer 19. Feb. THe power of the Commissioners in the Intervals of Parliament CLVII to nominate the Lord Deputy
of Ireland and other officers and Iudges there mentioned in the 20th Proposition being no matters of joynt concernments is to be limited to the Commissioners for the Parliament of England wherein the Commissioners of Scotland are to Vote as single persons The King's Commissioners fourth Paper 19. February THe Articles of the Treaty of the sixth of August giving CLVIII power to the Lievtenant of Ireland when the Scottish Army shall be joyned with His Army to give Instructions to the Scottish commander in chiefe and the Orders of the two Houses of the 9th of March 1644. and the 11th of Aprill See all these in the Appendix 1644. appoynting the Generall of the Scottish Forces in Ireland to command in chiefe over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots and both being desired to be enacted We desire to know whether the Lievtenant of Ireland shall command the Scots Forces or whether the Scottish Generall shall command all Forces both Brittish and Scots Their Answer 19. Feb. IN Answer to your Lordships 4th Paper we say that the Ordinances CLIX. of the 9th of March and 11th of Aprill 1644. were made when there was no Lievtenant of Ireland and when a Lievtenant shall be made with the approbation of both Houses according to our former Demands in the â—7th and 20th Propositions it will be a fitting time to give further Answer to your Lordships The King's Commissioners Reply 20. Feb. VVE desire a full answer from your Lordships to our CLX fourth paper delivered to your Lordships yesterday concerning the Power of the Lord Lievtenant of Ireland and the Generall of Scots Forces your Lordship having proposed to us that the Articles of the Treaty and the Ordinance of the 11. of April be enacted by His Maiestie by one of which the Generall of the Scotch Forces is to receive instructions for the manageing the War there from the Lievtenant of Ireland and by the other which is the later the Generall of the Scots Forces is to command in cheif both the Brittish and Scots Forces by which it seemes the Lievtenant of that Kingdom is to have no power in the prosecution of that War Their Answer 20. Feb. WE do insist upon our former papers that the prosecution of CLXI the War in Ireland is to be setled in both Houses of Parliament and is to be managed by the ioynt advice of both Kingdoms as in those Papers is set down and when a Lievtenant of Ireland shall be appointed as is expressed in the Propositions and it shall be necessary for the good of the service that he and the Commander in chief of the Scottish Army ioyn The Commander of the Scottish Army shall receive Instructions from the Lord Lievtenant or Deputy or other who shall have the cheif Government of that Kingdom for the time according to the Orders which shall be given by the Commissioners of both Kingdoms The King's Commissioners fifth Paper 19. February THe last part of the 17th Proposition gives power to the CLXII Commissioners for the Militia of both Kingdoms as a ioynt Committee to order the War of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th April and to order the Militia and conserve the Peace of the Kingdom of Ireland and by that of the 11th of April the Earle of Leven being appointed Commander in cheif over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots We desire to know whether he shall be subordinate to those Commissioners for the Militia and be obliged to observe such orders as he shall receive from them Their Answer 19. Feb. THe Commissioners of the Militia desired by the 17th Proposition CLXIII are to order the War of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th of April and the Earle of Leven being by that Ordinance Commander in cheif of the Forces there is obliged to observe such Orders as he shall receive from those Commissioners Their Commissioners likewise the same 19 of Feb. delivered in some Papers of Demands on their part Their Answer 19. Feb. WE desire that no Cessation of Armes or Peace in Ireland CLXIV may be Treated upon or concluded without consent of both Houses of Parliament of England Another 19. Feb. WE desire to know whether any Peace or Cessation of Armes CLXV in Ireland be consented unto by His Majestie and for what time and whether any Commission be now on foote or other authority given by His Majestie for that purpose The King's Commissioners Answer to both 20. February CLXVI TO your Lordships * Which were the two next precedent Papers sixt and seventh Papers delivered to us yesterday concerning any Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland your Lordships well know that long after the Warre begun in this Kingdom and the want of a supply from hence that a Cessation hath bin made with His Majesties consent and we conceive that the same expires in March next and we are confident there is no Peace made there But for the making a Peace or a farther Cessation we can give no farther answer till we may know whether there may be a blessed Peace made in England since if the miserable Civill Warrs shall continue in thâ— Kingdom we cannot conceive it possible for His Majestie by Force to reduce the Kingdom of Ireland or to preserve His Protestant Subjects there without a Peace or Cessation Their Reply 20. Febr. WE conceive your Lordships have given no answer to us whether CLXVII any Commission be now on foot or other authority given by His Majestie for any Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland other then that which determines in March next nor to our desire that no Cessation of Armes or Peace in Ireland may be Treated upon or concluded without consent of both Houses of the Parliament of England nor do we understand why your Lordships should delay your answer herein till the Peace in England be concluded since it hath bin so clearly manifested to your Lordships by the true meaning of the Act passed by His Majestie this Parliament that His Majestie can make no Peace nor Cessation without the consent of the two Houses and that your Lordships satisfactory answer to this and our other demands concerning Ireland will much conduce to the setling the Peace of this Kingdom we therefore again desire your Lordships full and clear answer to the particulars expressed in our sixt and seventh papers yesterday delivered to your Lordships The King's Commissioners Answer 20. Febr. WE do not hold our selves any wayes obliged to answer CLXVIII your Lordships demand whether any Commission be on foot or other authority from His Majesty for a Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland that question not arising upon any Propositions on His Majesties part yet for your Lordships satisfaction we do again assure you we do not know there is any Peace or Cessation made there other then that which determines in March next But what Commission the Marquesse of Ormond as
and the Scots suffering under as great wants and failer of Supplies as the Protestants in other places and in no better posture of their owne defence Notwithstanding in a true sense of their owne duty and Conscience they have opposed and still doe oppose the same neither were the English there neglected as your Lordships have been misinformed by such who labour to destroy both Nations and as a meanes thereto to divide them Besides the goods seized neare Coventry we have mentioned other particulars asserted to be seized not without His Majesties owne knowledge and direction as we are informed and are most unwilling to beleeve Neither doe we understand it to be an excuse for feizing some goods to say that His Majesty did forbeare to seize others in his Power but when His Maiesty shall rightly ponder the horridnesse of that Rebellion we hope those wicked Instruments who contrived and doe support the same will have no power to alter His Maiesties tender sense of the miseries of His Protestant Subiects in that Kingdome nor at all to lessen His Piety and gracious Care for quenching the flames of that unhappy Rebellion We doe againe affirme unto your Lordships the truth of what we said before concerning the Supplies of Ireland by the two Houses and it seemes strange that what hath been lately sent should not be looked upon as a support of the Warre against the Rebels by which onely the Protestants were inabled to defend themselves and to infest their Enemies Nor can we imagine any other means as a support of that just Warre being most assured that if this had not been done the Rebels must certainly have prevailed and the remnant of His Majesties good Subjects of that Kingdomr have perished Your Lordships are pleased to remember some monyes by us imployed particularly one hundred Thousand Pounds which was raised for Ireland all which have been resatisfied with advantage And we must as often as you are pleased to repeat it refer your Lordships to our former just and clear Answers concerning the same and the like for the Forces under the Command of the Lord Wharton And we beleeve what your Lordships expresse concerning the Forces brought hither to His Majesty out of Ireland after the Cessation it being one end for which the Cessation was made that those Forces might be imployed against the two Houses of Parliament here And those Scottish Forces which came over were not sent for We know of no Persons who have returned into Ireland since the Cessation except such as were Agents for the procuring thereof and divers principall Rebels who presumed to addresse themselves unto His Majesty at Oxford and were there countenanced It is probable that some might endeavour to alienatâ— the hearts of the Officers of the Army there from the two Houses whereby their service against the Rebels might be interrupted To that particular of the Subscriptions of the Officers and of the Committee sent into Ireland and of the diversions of Monyes alleadged and of the Copies of Letters given us by your Lordships without the names of those who subscribed them We have already given your Lordships a full and clear answer but have not received satisfaction concerning the denyall of the Lord Whartons Commission whereby the service of that Kingdome was much prejudiced It is so farre from being made appeare that His Majesties English Protestant Subiects in Ireland could not subsist without a Cessation that the untrary is undeniable and that His Majesties Protestant Subiects there both English and Scottish who have opposed that Cessation have subsisted and doe still subsist And we are sory to find any inclination to continue that Cessation which whensoever made will be esteemed by all good Protestants a countenancing of that bloudy Rebellion We doe insist upon our former Demands concerning Ireland and doubt not but those being granted notwithstanding our present miserable Distractions here we shall by the blessing of God bring those bloudy Rebels to a speedy and just punishment and settle that unhappy Kingdome in their due Obedience to His Majesty and the Crowne of England Their other Paper 22. Feb. IT is not possible for us to give a more cleare Answer then we CLXXVIII have done to shew that there can no such inconvenience follow upon confirming the Ordinance of the 11th of April by Act of Parliament as your Lordships doe imagine It being desired that the Treaty of the sixt of August be in like manner confirmed By which the Commanders of the Scottish Forces in Ireland are to be answerable to His Majesty and the two Houses of Parliament of England for their whole deportment and proceeding there and it being desired by the 13th Proposition that the prosecutions of the War of Ireland should be setled in both Houses of Parliament all which taken together it cannot follow that upon any disagreement between the Committees there the Earle of Leven may carry on the War according to his own discretion as for our expression when there shall be a Lievtenant in Ireland which was used in answer to your Lordships second paper of the 20 of February it was was to satisfie your Lordships that there could be no interfering between the powers of the Lord Lievtenant and of the Earle of Leven and still we say when there shall be a Lord Lievtenant chosen as is expressed in our 20th Proposition for we do not admit the Marquesse of Ormond to be so the Commander in cheife of the Scottish Army is to receive Instructions from him in such manner as we have laid it down in that answer of ours to your Lordships paper above mentioned which will we hope satisfie your Lordships other obiection that this is not to deliver over the whole Kingdom of Ireland into the hands of His Maiesties Subiects of the Kingdom of Scotland seeing such of that Nation as are there imployed are to be subordinate to the Committee of both Kingdoms and in case of disagreement an appeal lies to the two Houses of the Parliament of England in whom the power of prosecuteing the War is to be setled And we must insist to desire that the Lord Leivtenant and the Iudges in that Kingdome may be nominated by the two Houses of Parliament who have by sad experience to the great cost of this Kingdom expence of so much treasure and bloud the losse of many thousand lives there and almost of that whole Kingdom from His Maiesties obedience and an inestimable preiudice to the true Protestant Religion found the ill consequence of a bad choyce of persons for those great places of trust Therefore for His Maiesties honour the good of His service the great advantage it will be to the rest of His Maiesties Dominions the great comfort to all good Christians and even an acceptable service to God himself for the attaining of so much good and the prevention of so much evill they desire to have the nomination of those great Officers that by a prudent and
joyntly made use of with the Publique Faith of the Kingdom of England for the present taking up of two hundred thousand pounds sterling in the Kingdom of England or else where For the speedy procuring of the said Hundred Thousand pounds sterling as aforesaid As also a considerable summe for the satisfying in good proportion the Arreares of the Scottish Army in Ireland 8. That no Cessation nor any Pacification or Agreement for Peace whatsoever shall be made by either Kingdom or the Armies of either Kingdom without the mutuall advice and Consent of both Kingdoms or their Committees in that behalf appointed who are to have full Power for the same in case the Houses of the Parliament of England or the Parliament or convention of Estates of Scotland shall not sit 9. That the Publique Faith of the Kingdome of Scotland shall be given to their Brethren of England That neither their entrance into nor their continuance in the Kingdome of England shall be made use of to any other ends then are expressed in the Covenant and in the Articles of this Treaty And that all matters of difference that shall happen to arise between the Subjects of the two Nations shall be resolved and determined by the mutuall advice and consent of both Kingdomes or by such Committees as for this purpose shall be by them appointed with the same power as in the precedent Article 10. That in the same manner and upon the same conditions as the Kingdome of Scotland is now willing to ayde and assist their Brethren of England the Kingdome of England doth oblige themselves to ayd and assist the Kingdome of Scotland in the same or like cases of streights and extremities 11. Lastly it is agreed and concluded That during the time that the Scottish Army shall be imployed as aforesaid for the defence of the Kingdome of England There shall be fitted out as Men of Warre Eight Ships whereof sixe shall be of Burthen betwixt one hundred and Twenty and two hundred Tonne the other between three and foure hundred Tonâ—e whereof two shall be in Lieu of the two Ships appointed by the Irish Treaty All which shall be maintained at the charge of the Kingdome of England to be imployed for the defence of the Coast of Scotland under such Commanders as the Earle of Warwick for the time of his being Admirall shall nominate with the approbation of the Committees of both Kingdomes which Commanders shall receive from the said Earle generall Instructions that they doe from time to time observe the directions of the Committees of both Kingdomes The Ordinance for calling the Assembly of Divines An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament for the calling of an Assembly of Learned and Godly Divines and others to be consulted with by the Parliament for the setling of the Government and Liturgy of the Church of England and for vindicating and clearing of the Doctrine of the said Church from false aspertions and interpretations WHereas amongst the infinite blessings of Almighty V. God upon this Nation none is or can be more deare unto us then the purity of our Religion and for that as yet many things remaine in the Liturgy Discipline and Government of the Church which do necessarily require a further and more perfect Reformation then as yet hath been attained and whereas it hath bin declared and resolved by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament that the present Church government by Arch-bishops Bishops their Chancellors Commissaries Deanes Deanes and Chapters Arch-deacons and other Ecclesiasticall Officers depending upon the Hierarchy is evill and iustâ—y offensive and burthensome to the Kingdom a great impedimeâ—t to Reformation and growth of Religion and very preiudicialâ— to the State and government of this Kingdom and thâ—â— therefore they are resolved that the same shall be taken away and that such a government shall be setled in the Church aâ— may be most agreeable to Gods holy word and most apt to proâ—ure and preserve the peace of the Church at home and neerer agreement with the Church of Scotland and other reformed Churches abroad and for the better effecting hereof and for the vindicating and clearing of the doctrine of the Church of England from all false calumnies and aspersions It is thought fit and necessary to call an Assembly of Learned Godly and judicious Divines who together with some Members of both the Houses of Parliament are to consult and advise of such matters and things touching the premises as shall be proposed unto them by both or either of the Houses of Parliament and to give their advice and counsell therein to both or either of the said Houses when and as often as they shall be thereunto required Be it therefore ordained by the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled That all and every the persons hereafter in this present Ordinance named that is to say Algernon Earle of Northumberland William Earle of Bedford Philip Earle of Pembroke and Montgomery William Earle of Salisbury Henry Earle of Holland Edward Earle of Manchester William Lord Viscount Say and Seale Edward Lord Viscount Conway Philip Lord Wharton Edward Lord Howard of Estr John Selden Esqu Francis Rows Esqu Edmund Prideaux Esqu Sr Henry Vane Knight senior Iohn Glyn Esqu Recorder of London Iohn White Esqu Bouldstrode Whitlocke Esqu Humphrey Salloway Esqu M. Serjcant Wild Oliver Saint-John Esqu His Majesties Sollicitor Sr Benjamen Rudyard Knight Iohn Pym Esq Sir John Clotworthy Knight Iohn Maynard Esqu Sir Henry Vane Knight junior William Pierpoint Esqu William Wheeler Esqu Sir Thomas Barrington Knight Walter Young Esqu Sir John Evelin Knight Herbert Palmer of Ashwell Batchelor in Divinity Oliver Boles of Sutton Batchelor in Divinity Henry Wilkinson of Waddesdon Batchelor in Divinity Thomas Valentine of Chalfont-Giles Batchelor in Divinity D William Twiss of Newbury William Raynor of Egham Mr. Hannibal Gammon of Maugan Mr. Iasper Hickâ— of Lawrick Dr. Joshua Hoyle late of Dublin in Ireland William Bridges of Yarmouth Thomas Wincop of Ellesworth Doctor in Divinity Thomas Goodwin of London Bâ—tchelor in Divinity Iohn Ley of Budworth in Cheshire Thomas Case of London Iohn Pyne of Bereferrers Mr. Whidden of Mooreton Dr. Richard Love of Ekington Dr. William Gouge of Blackfriers London Dr. Ralph Brownerigg Bishop of Exeter Dr. Samuel Ward Master of Sidney Colledge Iohn White of Dorchester Edward Peale of Compton Stephen Marshall of Finchingfild Batchellor in Divinity Obediah Sedgewicke of Cogshall Batchellor in Divinity M. Carter Peter Clerk of Carnaby William Mew of Estington Batchellor in Divinity Richard Capell of Pitchcomb Theophilus Bathurst of Overton Watervile Phil. Nye of Kimbolton D. Brocket Smith of Barkway D. Cornelius Burges of Watford John Greene of Pencombe Stanley Gower of Brampton-Bryan Francis Taylor of Yalding Tho. Wilson of Otham Antho. Tuckney of Boston Batchellor of Divinity Thomas Coleman of Bliton Charles Herle of Winwicke Richard Herricke of Manchester Richard Cleyton of Showell George Gibbs of Ayleston D. Calibute Downing
of the Scottish Foot and shall receive and obey the Orders and Instructions of the Commanders of the Scottish Army And that there shall be presently advanced the summe of twelve Hundred Pounds sterling for the Levying of a Troop of one hundred Horsemen in Scotland besides the Officers to be a Guard to the Generall of the Scottish Army Fifthly It is agreed That the Commanders and Souldiers of the Scottish Army shall have such Pay respectively as the Commanders and Souldiers of the English Army have according to a List presently agreed upon by the Commissioners of both Kingdomes As also that the Officers of that Army shall have such allowance for their Waggons as is contained in the said List Sixtly It is agreed That the Townes and Castle of Carickfergus and Colrayne shall be put into the hands of the Scottish Army to be places for their Magazines and Garrisons and to serve them for Retreat upon occasion And that the Magistrates and Inhabitants thereof shall be ordeyned to carry themselves to the Commanders of the said Army as is fitting and ordinary in such Cases And that the said Townes and Castle shall remain in the Scots hands untill the Warre shall end or that they shall be discharged of that service Like as the Commissioners for the Kingdom of Scotland do promise in the Puâ—lique Faith of that Kingdom to redeliver the said Townes and Castle to any having Commission from the King and Parliament of England as also the Commissioners for the Kingdom of England do promise in the name and on the Publique Faith of that Kingdom That Payment shall be made to the Kingdom of Scotland and their Army of all dues that shall arise upon this present Treaty and that when the Scottish Army imployed in the service of Ireland shall be discharged they shall be disbanded by Regiments and no lesser proportions and so may of them payed off as shall be disbanded and the residue kept in pay till they be disbanded Seventhly It is agreed that the Townes of Charickfergus and Colrayne shall by the Kingdom of England be with all expedition provided with Victualls necessary for Souldiers either in Garrisons or expeditions according to a List to be agreed on and Subscribed by the Commissioners of both Kingdoms And that such quantities thereof as the Scottish Army shall have occasion to use shall be sold unto them and bought by them at the severall Prices contained in the aforesaid List And also that the said Townes of Carickfergus and Colrayne shall be provided by the Kingdom of England with Powder Ball Match and other Ammunition for the service of the said Army conforme to the particular List to be condescended unto by both Commissioners and that Carts and Waggons shall be provided by the Kingdom of England for carrying of Ammunition for the use of the said Army in Marches As also that there shall be Gun-Smiths Carpenters and one or two Engineers appoynted to attend the Army and that hand Mils shall be provided to serve the Companies in Marches Eightly It is agreed that the Kingdom of England shall deposite two Thousand Pounds English money in the hands of any to be appoynted by the Scottish Commissioners to be disbursed upon accompt by warrant of the Generall of their Army upon Fortifications Intelligences and other Incidents so that there be not above the summe of two Thousand pounds in a yeare Imprested upon these occasions without particular and speciall warrant from the Parliament of England As also that there shall be deposited two Thousand and five hundred pounds English to be disbursed upon Accompt for the providing of a thousand Horses for the Carriage of the Artillery the Baggage and Victuall of their Army and for Dragooners upon occasion And likewise that the Scottish Army during the time of the Warre shall have power to take up such Horses in the Country as be necessary for the uses aforesaid Ninth It is agreed that the Inhabitants of the Townes and Villages in the Province of Vlster and in any other Province of Irâ—land where the Scottish Army shall be by it selfe for the time shall receive Orders from the Scottish Commanders And shall bring in Victualls for Money in an orderly way as shall be directed by them with Provision of Oates Hay and Strawe and such other Necessaries And that the Country People shall Rise and Concurre with the Scottish Troops when the Commanders thereof shall find it for the good of the Service and shall receive Orders and Directions from the said Commanders of the Scottish Army Tenth It is agreed that the said ten thousand men to be sent out of the Kingdom of Scotland shall goe in the way and order of an Army under their own Generall and Subalterne Officers And the Province of Vlster is appointed unto them wherein they shall first prosecute the Warre as in their Judgment they shall think most expedient for the honour of the King and Crowne of England And that the Commanders of the said Army shall have power to give Conditions to Townes Castles and Persons which shall render and submit themselves as shall be most expedient for the service according to the course of Warre Provided no Toleration of the Popish Religion be granted nor any condition made touching or concerning any of the Rebels Lands and that the Commanders â—f the Scottish Army shall be answerable for their whole deportment and proceedings to His Majesty and the two Houses of the Parliament of England only but shall from time to time give an accompt thereof to His Majesty the two Houses of the Parliament of England and to the Cheife Governour or Governours of Ireland for the time being that such Townes and Places as shall be recovered from the Rebels by the Scottish Army shall be at the disposing of the Commanders thereof during their aboade for that service in those parts where such Townes and Places are And if it shall be found for the good of the service that the Scottish Army shall joyne with the Kings Lievtenant of Ireland and his Army in that case the Generall of the Scottish Army shall only cede to the Kings Lievtenant of Ireland and receive in a free and honourable way Instructions from him or in his absence from the Lord Deputy or any other who shall have the Cheife Government of that Kingdome for the time by authority derived from the Crowne of England and shall precede all others and that he only shall give Orders to the Officers of his own Army And that the Armies shall have the right lefthand Vand and Reare Charge and Retreat successively and shall not mixe in Quarterings nor Marchings and when it shall be found fit to send Troopes out of either Army that the Persons to be sent out of the Scottish Army shall be Commanded out by their own Generall the Lievtenant of Ireland prescribing the number which shall not exceed the fourth part of the whole Foote of the Scottish Army nor of the
Horse appointed to joyne therewith whereunto they shall returne when the service is done And that no Officer of the Scottish Army shall be Commanded by one of his owne quality and if the Commanders of the Troopes so sent out of either Army be of one Quality that they Command the Party by turnes And it is neverthelesse provided That the whole Scottish Army may be called out of the Province of Vlster and the Horses appointed to joyne with them by His Majesties Lievtenant of Ireland or other Cheife Governour or Governours of that Kingdom for the time being if he or they shall thinke fit before the Rebellion be totally suppressed therein Eleventh It is agreed That the Scottish Army shall be entertained by the English for three moneths from the Twentieth of Iune last and so along after untill they be discharged and that they shall have a moneths Pay advanced when they are first Mustered in Ireland and thereafter shall be duly paid from Month to Month And that there shall be one Muster-Master appointed by the English Muster-Master Generall to make strict and frequent Musters of the Scottish Army and that what Companies of Men shall be sent out of Scotland within the compasse of the ten Thousand Men shall be paid upon their Musters in Ireland although they make not up compleat Regiments Twelfth It is agreed That the Scottish Army shall receive their discharge from the King and Parliament of England or from such Persons as shall be appointed and authorized by His Majesty and both Houses of Parliament for that purpose And that there shall be a Moneths warning before hand of their disbanding which said discharge and Moneths warning shall be made knowne by His Majesty and them to the Councell of Scotland or the Lord Chancellour a Moneth before the discharging thereof And that the Common Souldiers of the Scottish at their dismission shall be allowed fourteen dayes Pay for carrying of them home Thirteenth It is provided and agreed That at any time after the three Moneths now agreed upon for the entertainment of the Scottish Army shall be Expired and that the two Houses of Parliament or such Persons as shall be authorized by them shall give notice to the Councell of Scotland or to the Lord Chancellor there That after one Moneth from such notice given the said two Houses of Parliament will not pay the said Scottish Army now in Ireland any longer then the said two Houses of Parliament shall not be obleiged to pay the said Army any longer then during the said Moneth Any thing in this Treaty contained to the Contrary notwithstanding The Ordinances of the 9th of March and 11th of Aprill Die Sabbati 9. Martii 1644. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat he who doth or shall command in chiefe over the said VIII Army by joynt advice of both Kingdoms shall also command the rest of the Brittish Forces in Ireland And for the further managing of that Warre and prosecuting the ends expressed in the Covenant That the same be done by joynt advice with the Committees of both Kingdomes Die Iovis 11. April 1644. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat the Earle of Leven Lord Generall of the Scots Forces in Ireland being now by the Votes of both Houses agreed to be Commander in Chiefe over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots according to the Fourth Article of the result of the Committees of both Kingdoms passed both Houses be desired with all convenient speed by the advice of the said Committees to appoynt and nominate a Commander in chiefe under his Excellency over the said Forces to reside with them upon the place Resolved c. THat Committees be nominated and appointed by the joynt advice of both Kingdomes of such numbers and Qualities as shall be by them agreed on to be sent with all convenient speed to reside with the said Forces and inabled with all ample Instructions by the joynt advice of both Kingdoms for the Regulating of the said Forces and the better carrying on of that Warre The Letter of the Lords Justices and Councell of Ireland to the Speaker of the House of Commons in England 4. Aril 1643. a Duplicate whereof the originall being sent to Westminster was by them sent to Mr Secretary Nicholas for His Majesty SIR OVr very good Lord the Lord Marquesse of Ormond having IX in his march in his last expedition consulted severall times with the Commanders and Officers of the Army in a Councell of Warre and so finding that subsistence could not be had abroad for the Men and Horses he had with him or for any considerable part of them it was resolved by them that his Lordship with those Forces should returne hither which he did on the sixe and twentieth of March. In his returne from Rosse which in the case our Forces stand he found so difficult to be taken in as although our Ordinance made a breach in their walls it was found necessary to desert the Siege he was encountred by an Army of the Rebels consisting of about sixe thousand Foot and sixe hundred and fifty Horse well Armed and Horsed yet it pleased God so to disappoint their Councells and strength as with those small Forces which the Lord Marquesse had with him being of fighting men about two thousand five hundred Foot and five hundred Horse not well armed and for the most part weakly horsed and those as well Men as Horses much weakned by lying in the fields severall nights in much Cold and Raine and by want of mans-meat and horse-meat the Lord Marquesse obtained a happy and glorious deliverance and Victory against those Rebells wherein were slaine about three hundred of them and many of their Commanders and others of quality and divers taken Prisoners and amongst those Prisoners Colonell Cullen a Native of this City who being a Colonell in France departed from thence and came hither to assist the Rebels and was Lievtenant Generall of their Army in the Province of Leinster and the Rebels Army were totally Routed and defeated and their Baggage and Munition seized on by His Majesties Forces who lodged that night where they had gained the Victory and on our side about Twenty slaine in the fight and divers wounded We have great cause to praise God for magnifying his goodnesse and mercy to his Majesty and this his Kingdome so manifestly and indeed wonderfully in that Victory However the joy due from us upon so happy an occasion is we confesse mingled with very great distraction here in the apprehension of our unhappinesse to be such as although the Rebels are not able to overcome His Majesties Army and devoure his other good Subjects here as they desire yet both his Army and good Subjects are in danger to be devoured by the wants of needfull Supplies forth of England for as we formerly signified thither those Forces were of necessity sent
abroad to try what might be done for susteining them in the Country so as to keep them alive untill Supplies should get to us But that designe now failing those our hopes are converted into astonishment to behold the unspeakable miseries of the Officers Souldiers for want of all things and all those wants made the more unsupportable in the want of Food whilest this City being all the help we have is now too apparently found to be unable to help us as it hath hitherto done and divers Commanders and Officers in the Army doe now so faire expresse their sense of their sufferings which indeed are very great and grievous as they declare that they have little hope to be supplyed by the Parliament and presse with so great importunity to be permitted to depart the Kingdome as it will be extream difficult to keep them here By our Letters of the three and twentieth of March we signified thither the unsupportable burthen laid on this City for Victualling those of the Army left here when the Lord Marquesse with the Forces he took with him marched hence which burden is found every day more heavy then other in regard of the many house-keepers thereby dayly breaking up house and scattering their Families leaving still fewer to bear the burden We also by those Letters and by our Letters of the five and twentieth of February advertised thither the high danger this Kingdom would incurre if the Army so sent abroad should by any distresse or through want be forced back hither againe before our reliefe of Victualls should arrive forth of England When we found that those men were returning back hither although we were and are still full of distraction considering the dismall consequences threatned thereby in respect of our wants yet we consulted what we could yet imagine fâ—sible that we had not formerly done to gaine some Food for those men and found that to send them or others abroad into the Country we cannot in regard we are not able to advance Money for procuring the many requisites incident to such an expedition In the end therefore we were enforced to fixe on our former way and so to see who had any thing yet left him untaken from him to help us and although there are but few such and some of them poor Merchants whom we have now by the Law of necessity utterly undone and disabled from being hereafter helpfull to us in bringing us in Victualls or other needfull Commodities yet were we forced to wrest their Commodities from them and certainly there are few here of our selves or others that have not felt their parts in the enforced rigour of our proceedings towards preserving the Army so as what with such hard dealing no lesse greivous to us to do then it is heavy to others to suffer and by our discending against our hearts farre below the honour and dignity of that power we represent here under his Royall Majestie we have with unspeakable difficulty prevailed so as to be able to find Bread for the Souldiers for the space of one month We are now expelling hence all strangers and must instantly send away for England thousands of poore dispoyled English whose very eating is now unsupportable to this place And now againe and finally we earnestly desire for our confusions will not now admit the writing of many more Letters if any that His Majesty and the English Nation may not suffer so great if not irrecoverable prejudice and dishonour as must unavoydably be the consequence of our not being relieved suddenly but that yet although it be even now at the point to be too late supplies of Victualls and Munition in present be hastened hither to keep life untill the rest may follow there being no victuall in the store nor will there be a hundred barrells of powder left in the store when the out Garrisons as they must be instantly are supplyed and that remainder according to the usuall necessary expense besides extraordinary accidents will not last above a month and the residue of our provisions must also come speedily after or otherwise England cannot hope to secure Ireland or secure themselves against Ireland but in the losse of it must look for such enemies from hence as will perpetually disturbe the Peace of His Majesty his Kingdom of England and annoy them by Sea and Land as we often formerly represented thither which mischeifes may yet be prevented if we be yet forthwith enabled from thence with meanes to overcome this Rebellion We hope that a course is taken there for hastening hither the provisions of Armes and Munition mentioned in the docquet sent with our Letters of the twentieth of Ianuary and the six hundred horses which we then moved might be sent hither for recruites and that the seven thousand eight hundred fourscore and thirteen pounds three shillings for Armes to be provided in Holland besides those we expect in London hath bin paid to Anthony Tierens in London or to Daniell Wibrants in Amsterdam and if that Summe had been paid as we at first desired we might well have had those provisions arrived here by the tenth of March as we agreed however we now desire that that Money if it be not already payd may be yet paid to M. Tierens in London or M. Wibrants in Amsterdam that so those provisions may arrive here speedily which considering that summer is now near at hand will be very necessary that when our supplies of Victualls Munition Clothes Money and other provisions shall arrive we may not in the publique service here loose the benefit and advantage of that season And so we remaine from His Majesties Castle of Dublin 4. April 1643. POST-SCRIPT As we were ready to signe this dispatch we received at this Board a paper signed by sundry Officers of the Army now here at Dublin which is in such a stile and threatens so much danger as we hold necessary to send a Copy thereof here incloâ—ed whereby still appeares the high necessity of hastening away money for them and the rest of the Officers and Victualls for the Souldier without which it will be impossible to conteine them from breaking out into mutinie The Letter inclosed MY LORDS AT our first entrance into this unhappy Kingdom we had no other designe then by Our Swords to assert and vindicate the right of His Majesty which was here most highly abused to redresse the wrongs of His poor Subjects and to advance our own particulars in the prosecution of so honest undertakings And for the first of these we do believe they have since our comming over succeeded pretty well but for the last which concernes our selves that hath fallen out so contrary to our expectations that in stead of being rewarded we have been prejudiced instead of getting a Fortune we have spent part of one and though we behave ourselves never so well abroad and performe the Actions of honest men yet we have the reward of Rogues and Rebells wich is misery
to perswade them into a beliefe that evill Counsellors and others prevalent with us did encourage and assist it By this means having a colour to raise Forces and to levy money for the supply of those Forces they might so dispose of both as under a pretence of suppressing the Rebells in Ireland they might thereby also raise a Warre in England for the effecting of their Ambitious and Covetous desires in both Kingdoms And they so carried on this designe that whereas out of Our earnest desire of the reliefe of Our poor Subjects in Ireland and to shew the great sence we had of their miseries We had given way to severall unusuall Bills for raising of Forces and likewise to the Bill for the 400000l for the adventurers and others for raising of Moneys which Moneys by those Acts were to be paid to particular Persons or otherwise out of the ordinary course and not into Our Exchequer as was usuall in like cases thence to be issued for publique use those supplies were diverted and imployed to feed and nourish a Rebellion in England rather then to suppresse that in Ireland Thus 100000l of the Adventurers Money was impâ—oyed for the Earle of Essex his Army when he first Marcht against us and that imployment of it though contrary to the expresse words of the Act which are that no part of that Money shall be imployed to any other purpose thâ—n the reâ—uâ—ing of those Rebels was publiquely justified by a Declaration made in the name of the House of Commons the 6th of September not long before the Battaile at Edge-Hill and at the same Bartaile severall Regiments of Horse and Foot raised for Ireland under the Command of the Lord Wharton Lord of Leny S Faithfull Fortescue and others were imployed against us at Edge-hill the moneys raised upon the Bill of 400000l others have been wholly made use of against Vâ— And it was impossible without thus working themselves under the specious pretence of suppressing the Rebellion of Ireland into the managery of that Warre and misapplying the ayds intended for Ireland to have brought this Kingdom into the bleeding and desperate condition wherein it now languisheth The Propositions concerning Ireland as they are insisted upon by these Commissioners though in charity we shall hope not so intended by all of them are apparently in pursuance of that originall designe in begetting a suspition of our integrity in that businesse of Ireland and ingrossing the managing of that Warre and the Power of that Kingdom into their hands They would have the Cessation which We have avowed to be assented to by Vs and advised as most necessary for the preservation of that Kingdom to tend to the utter destruction of the Protestants there and the continuance of the Ceslation there though but during the Warre here to be a countenancing of that bloudy Rebellion and We Our selves are charged to be privy and to give directions for the seising of some provisions made and sent for the supply of â—he Protestants in Ireland In the next place concerning the Warre there they demand that the prosecution of that Warre be setled in both Houses of Parliament to be managed by the advice of both Kingdoms of England and Scotland that is a Committee of both Kingdoms those of each Kingdom to have a negative voyce And all the Forces there to be under the Command of the Scotch Generall The Lievtenant and other great Officers and Judges there to be nominated by both Houses and that we should consent to passe all Acts to be proposed by them for the raysing of moneys and other things necessary for the prosecution of that Warre And notwithstanding all the zealous and patheticall expressions in those Papers desiring the continuance of that Warre and the execution of Iustice upon those Rebels It is not barely the prosecution of the Warre in zeale of Iustice that is desired that might be managed either by Vs whom God and the Law have entrusted solely with that power and whose Prâ—decessors have alone and without the concurrence of their Parliaments other then by competent assistance with Moneys suppressed great Rebellions in that Kingdom or by fit Ministers to be appointed upon just occasion to be removed by Vs They have not made any the least Proposition or desire to that purpose But they insist upon such a prosecution of the Warre wherein those who are in Armes against us may have the sole managing of the Warre and of moneys to maintaine that Warre even while they are in Armes against Vs. For the Cessation already made it is apparent it was the onely visible meanes whereby the Kingdome was preserved the poore Protestants there being in danger inevitably to have perished either by Famine for want of Food or by the Rebells for want of Ammunition there being not above Forty Barrells of Powder there as appears by the Letters of the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland mentioned by Our Commissioners and no supplies of Victualls or Money sent in six months time before those Letters although Our Ships were then taken away from Vs and all the Forces at Sea belonging to this Kingdom were under their command Neither could the not making voyd or declaring against that Cessation have hindered a Peace upon this Treaty if it had been intended really on their part it being to expire in March and so before the Treaty could probably have been perfected and there being no further Peace or Cessation made in Ireland And therefore Our Commissioners did earnestly desire them to make such Propositions as were fit to be consented to for the growth of the Protestant Religion and the good of that Kingdom But instead of such Propositions they still except against the Cessation and though expiring within a moneth they insist upon their demands of an Act of Parliament to make that Cessation voyd to which if We should have consented as We must have rendered our selves uncapable of being trusted at any time after and odious abroad in breaking that Cessation solemnely made by our publique Ministers of State in Ireland and after consented unto by our selves so we must have implicitely confessed contrary to the truth that which they alleadge against the Cessation that it was destructive to the Protestants there and a countenancing of that bloudy Rebellion and thereby having lost the Plea of our innocencie have also lost the hearts of Our people and rendred our selves guilty of those infamous slaunders which have bin charged upon Vs concerning the Irish Rebellion and which some were so willing to fix upon Vs that even during this Treaty when Mack Quire was impeached by them for this Rebellion for which he was by them after executed though they well knew confessions of men in his condition in hopes of Pardon or Reprives are not to be credited he was strictly examined concerning Vs as We are credibly informed whether or no We gave any Commission to the Rebels of Ireland or any assistance to them and if
Generall of the Scots that they shall be well paid the Arreares to the Armies in both Kingdomes before they quit their Interest in Ireland If we shall allow Provisions thus imployed to be for the preservation of the English Protestants in Ireland We may believe they have repaid the 100000l taken up of the Adventurers money and yet thus to resatisfie this money admitting it be currant satisfaction for the debt can be no satisfaction or excuse for the former diversion But since they cannot excuse themselves for this diversion of the Adventurers money nor of the other moneys raised for Ireland nor of the imploying the forces raised for that Kingdom under the Command of the Lord Wharton against us at Edge-Hill which they deny not They fall to recriminate Vs. They say They have mentioned particulars of provisions for Ireland besides those few clothes taken neere Coventry which being formerly answered by Our Commissioners they do not againe urge asserted to be seised not without Our owne knowledge and directions as they were informed This they had formerly alledged and our Commissioners had answered as we do now that they have instanced no particulars at all of any such provisions seised And whereas they say that Out forbearance to seise some provisions which Our Commissioners alleadged in our greatest wants we forbore to take though they lay in Magazines within Our owne Quarters but took order to send away into Ireland was no excuse for seising others they misapply that to be an excuse which was alleadged as an evidence that We seised none since we might in Our great want have seised those if we had been minded to have seised any They say again the service of that Kingdom was much prejudiced by denying the Lord Wharton's Commission of which they have not received satisfaction To this it hath been already answered that those Forces were raised for him before any Commission demanded from us and that the Commission for him proposed to us was to have been independant of the Lievtenant of that Kingdom Causes though not satisfactory to them yet sufficient in themselves to justifie Our reâ—usall But besides these it is apparent the Army which was brought down against Vs was their raising that the Lord Wharton was one of the most active in it and We had cause to be confident nor did he faile us therein that what Forces he should raise for Ireland he would imploy against us in England neither did that service depend upon the Lord Wharton other able Officers were appointed over those Forces whom if they had as much affected that service as the Person of the Lord Wharton they might have trusted with the Transport of them to Ireland where others of more experience and fitter for Conduct then the Lord Wharton might have taken the charge of them They say further That it was one end for which the Cessation was made that the Forces might be brought hither to Vs out of Ireland and imployed against the two Houses The bleeding necessities of the poore English there which have been mentioned and whereof they cannot but be convinced will best speak the cause of that Cessation and the fight of those Souldiers halfe starved when they came over having neither Clothes to their Backs nor so much as Shooes to their Feet nor any pay to provide either will witnesse the necessity of bringing them over when there was no subsistance for them in Ireland nor use for them there during the Cessation And for making use of them here how can they quarrell at Our imploying Our owne English Souldiers who should otherwise have disbanded when they make use of an Army of Scots against Vs. They have bin told that they brought over out of Ireland the Earle of Leven their Generall and diverse Scottish Officers which they deny not and that before the English Forces brought over they attempted the bringing once the Scottish Forces in Ireland as likewise diverse English Officers there into this Kingdom to which all the answer given is that the Scottish Forces which came over were not sent for Which as it denies not what is objected so neither can it excuse their not sending them back to the service of Ireland and imploying them here in an unnaturall Rebellion against Vs. But whatsoever their owne acts or failings have bin in this businesse of Ireland though apparently the necessities which caused the Cessation were occasioned by the two Houses yet rather then they shall be guilty of the blame and neglect therein Our people must be made to beleive that either there were no such necessities or when that is so apparent then that those necessities were designed and contrived by a Popish and Prelaticall party prevalent with Vs and the supplyes denyed and stopped by Our Selfe and so that it is reasonable for them to presse and insist as they do with much fervour in their last Paper concerning Ireland upon their demands for the setling of the prosecution of the War in themselves or the Scots excluding Vs and that there shall be no further Cessation or Peace made there though the War should continue here to have the nomination of the Leivtenant and all the great Officers there and to have Vs bound up to assent to whatsoever acts they shall propose for moneys or other necessaries for the prosecution of that War and if We agree not to these Propositions We are like to be charged with countenancing of that Bloudy Rebellion And therefore though the unreasonablenesse of those Propositions hath been fully laid open by Our Commissioners â—n their Paper yet because this of theirs is framed in answer to those and the fervency and fluency of their expressions may make impressions on those who doe not warily weigh the matter We shall examine what new inforcements they bring to make good those demands The prosecution of the Warre there though it be demanded generally in the 13th Proposition to be setled in both Houses of the Parliament of England to be managed by the joynt advice of both Kingdoms yet according to their 17th Proposition it is to be ordered according to the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. which is also proposed to be enacted By that Ordinance the Scottish Generall Leven is to command all the Forces in Ireland both English and Scottish and that Warre is to be managed by a joynt Committee to be named by the two Houses of England and the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland And the Committees of each Kingdom is to have a negative voyce They insisting to have the prosecution of the War thus setled Our Commissioners answered That this was in effect to deliver the Kingdom of Ireland into the hands of Our Subjects of Scotland and neither agreeable to the rules of honour or prudence That it was unreasonable if the War continued here that We by Our consent to Act of Parliament for the manageing of that War and raising moneys for that purpose should put so great power into
taken for Apocryphall doctrine not to take up Armes against their Frince upon any pretence whatsoever And as we have endeavoured by Our Personall example otherwise so we shall still continue by all good meanes to propagate the Protestant Religion but we are farre from that Mahumetane doctrine that we ought to propagate Our Religion by the Sword And though We shall be most willing to hearken to the advice of Our People Assembled in a free Parliament yet we should be wanting to the Trust that God hath reposed in Vs and Our use of that reason with which he hath endowed Vs if We should wholly give up that Kingdome to be managed solely by their Counsells secluding Our Selves from all Interest therein especially when We consider that which experience hath taught Vs if they have the sole power of that Warre by which all the Souldiers and Commanders being to be nominated and paid removed and advanced by them the necessary application passing by Vâ— must be made to such as are powerfull with them how easie a matter it will be for a prevalent Faction if they shall have a mind to demand other things hereafter not fit to be granted againe to bring over an Army raised and payed by them into this Kingdome especially so much composed of Our Scottish Subjects And whereas they desire further The nomination of the Lord Lievtenant and other great Officers and Judges in that Kingdome which they also desire in this of England they cannot but know that it must oâ— necessity take away all dependency upon Vs and application to Vs when the power to reward those who are worthy of publique Trust shall be transferred to others and having neither force left Vs to punish nor power to reward We shall be in effect a titular contemptible Prince We shall leave all Our Ministers to the knowne Lawes of the Land to be tryed and punished according to those Lawes if they shall offend but We cannot consent to put so great a Trust and Power out of Vs and we have just cause to conceive that notwithstanding all their speciouâ— pretences this desire of nomination of those great Officers is but a cloke to cover the Ambition of those who having been the Boutefeux of this Rebellion desire to advance themselves and their owne Faction And to that which is said that Our bad choice of Our Lievtenants of Ireland was the losse of many thousand Lives there and almost of the whole Kingdome from Our Obedience They cannot but witnesse who know that Kingdome that during the Government there by Lievtenants of Our Choyce that Kingdome enjoyed more plenty and Peace then it ever had since it was under the subjection to the Crowne of England Traffique by Sea and Trade by Land encreased Values of Land improved Shipping multiplyed beyond beliefe Never was the Protestant Religion more advanced nor the Protestant protected in greater security against the Papists And We must remember them that that Rebellion was begun when there was no Lievtenant there and when the Power and Government which had been formerly used in that Kingdome was questioned and disgraced when those in the Parliament there by whom that Rebellion was hatched were countenanced in their Complaints and prosecution But they are not content to demand all the power over Ireland and the nomination of all Officers but We must also engage Our Selfe to passe such Acts as shall be presented to Vs for raising of Monyes and other necessaries for that Warre Our former readinesse to passe Acts for Ireland because they were advised by the two Houses when they were apparently prejudiciall to Our Selfe and contrary to Our owne Judgement might sufficiently satisfie them We would make no difficulty to consent to such Acts as should be for the good of that Kingdome but they have been already told it was unreasonable to make a generall engagement before we saw the Acts whether reasonable or no and whether those other necessaries may not in truth comprehend what is not onely unnecessary but very inconvenient But the People they say who have trasted them with their Purse will never begrudge what they make them lay out upon that occasion The two Houseâ— indeed were entrusted that Our Subjects should not be charged without them but they never were solely trusted by Our Subjects with a power to chaâ—ge them the care that no pressure in that or any other kind should be upon Our Subjects is principally in Vs without whose consent notwithstanding the late contrary and unexampled practice no such charge can or ought to be levyed and we ought not to give that consent â—ut where it is visible for the good of Our Kingdomes which upon such an unbounded power of raising Monyes may fall out otherwise especially in so unusuall a casâ— as this where those who must have the sole manage of the Warre shall have the sole command of the Purse without any châ—ck or controll upon them But they say againe We have heretofore been possessed against the Parliament for not giving away the Money of the Subject when We had desired it but never yet did We restraine them from it It is true We had no great cause heretofore to restraine the two Houses from giving the Subjects Money to Vs having found more difficulty to obtaine from them three or foure Subsidies then they have met with in raising so many Millions But Our People cannot think themselves well dealt with by Vs if We shall consent to put an unlimited power of raising what Monyes they please in those Persons who have drayned more wealth from them in foure yeares then We beleeve all the Supplies given to the Crowne in 400 yeares before have amounted unto In the last place We wish every man to consider how the Rebels in Ireland can be reduced by War whilst these unhappy distractions continue here whilst contrary Forces and Armies are raised in most parts of this Kingdom and the bloud of Our People is spils like water upon the ground whil'st the Kingdom in wasted by Souldiers and the people exhausted by maintaining them and as if this Kingdom were not sufficient to destroy it self whilest on Army of Scots is brought into the bowels of this Kingdom and maintained at the charg of it whil'st this Kingdom labours under such a War how is it possible that a considerable supply of men or money can be sent into Ireland To this with much fervour of expression they say It must not depend upon the condition of Our other Kingdoms to reveng Gods quarrell upon such perfidious Enemies to the Gospell of Christ who have embrewed their hands in so much Protestant bloud That the Cessation is for their advantage Armes and Ammunition and all manner of Commodities may be brought to them That it is not fit there be any agreement of Peace or respite from hostility with such creatures as are not fit to live more then with Wolves or Tygers or any ravenous Beasts destroyers of mankind We are