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A67420 More news from Rome, or, Magna Charta discoursed of between a poor man & his wife as also a new font erected in the cathedral-church at Gloucester in October 1663, and consecrated by the reverend moderate bishop, Dr. William Nicolson ... : as also an assertion of Dr. William Warmstrey ... wherein he affirmeth that it is a lesser sin for a man to kill his father than to refrain coming to the divine service established in the Church of England ... Wallis, Ralph, d. 1669. 1666 (1666) Wing W616; ESTC R15738 46,742 50

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And again Luther saith Christus non vi aut igne homines cogere vult Christ will not by fire and force compel men And Tindal saith Fides sua sponte non coacte agere vult Faith will work of its own accord not by constraint And he is a young Student in the university that cannot tell you Voluntas cogi non potest the will cannot be compell'd But what need we go to humane Authors when we have the practise of our Saviour left for instruction and imitation He that hath ears to hear let him hear and he that will not let him chuse whether he will or no. When his Apostles moved him to command fire from Heaven to have destroyed them that received him not see what he saith Ye know not of what spirit ye are for the Son of man is not come to destroy mens lives but to sove them Wife these things are so publickly known that I might spare to make mention of them but not yet known to my Children and one thing more out of History That which is recorded in the life of Simon and Jude the Apostles as both Gulielmus defancto amore and John His relate That when the Chief Ruler was very angry with those that defamed the Doctrine of the Apostles and in great Zeal commanded a fire to be made that such opposers might be cast into it the Apostles fell down before the Emperour saying We beseech you Sir let not us be the Authors or Causers of this destraction who are come to publish the Doctrine of eternal Salvation neither let us who are sent to revive those who are dead through sin become the killer of those who are alive And if there was an Act of Parliament that all men should have faces one like another and propose one man for a Pattern it would be as easily brought to pass as to compel all men to be of one Judgment for he that hath a hand in forming of the face hath a hand in forming the Judgment and the forcing of men to forms of worship comes to as much as the man's Penance which he performed in Powls lately at the latter end of March it was thus A man had married an ancient woman by whom he had no issue she dying he matried the daughter by whom he hath two children and she great with the third they agree very well and he is a loving tender husband unto her nevertheless the Consanguinity must produce a Divorce He stood in a white sheet rather than he will give a great sum of money he must make a publick Confession of his Crime by saying after one who had a Paper in his hand and for this his notorious offence which is esteemed so by them or at least dissembled so to be he must desire the Congregation to pray for him all this while he resolves to continue his love to her and that she is his wife lawfully And such is a forced Conformity to the Forms of Worship now in fashion but when men are once got out of a dark dungeon they will hardly be brought into it again But fear of trouble may make men do that outwardly which inwardly they detest and so make Hypocrites Mr. Fox reports of John Frith's Son who seeing his Father burnt some of them who had a hand in his Fathers death demanded of the young man how he did believe who answered Even as it pleaseth you W. Husband So it is that Great men and Parliaments Convocations and Councils have deemed such a Reformation and Conformity requisit in well govern'd Kingdoms H. VVife Elibu one of Job's friends saith that Great men are not alwayes wise neither do the Mighty understand Judgment Convocations and Councils may err as in the Council of Nice where one Paphnutius withstood the whole Council consisting of three hundred and eighteen Bishops and convinced them all And Parliaments may as we have seen be sometimes wise and sometimes otherwise True spiritual Wisdom which is from above accords with the Scriptures but that which is beneath Scripture and cannot be warranted by it is earthly earnal sensual and devilish and enmity against God I have already told you in a former discourse that Convocations and Parliaments have nothing to do to make Laws for Christ's Kingdom that 's on his shoulders that were to charge him with want of wisdom and his Laws with imperfection For the souls of men and women he alone is the Law-giver or else what Law-giver is he The Magistrates power extends no further than to the outward man to require obedience in Civil things neither can Great men as we see reform themselves Convocation-men nor Parliament-men they may aswell undertake to sanctifie justifie or glorifie a soul as to reform a soul Sanctification is the work of the Spirit Justification the work of God's Free-Grace by the imputation of Christ's Righteousness Glorification the work of the Father Christ dying for man is his redemption Christ living in man is his reformation What is the Magistrates place then only to encourage protect keep peace and punish open and gross offenders W. Husband doth not this derogate from the honour of a Magistrate if his power extend only to temporal things H. Wife if Caesar have his due he can require no more and it would exceedingly redound to the honour of a Magistrate to give Christ the hononr of his own Kingdom to whom all honour appertains The time will come when the Kings of the Earth shall bring their honour and glory into it W. Husband the Kings of Isrel did things of this nature as Jehosaphat Josiah c. reformed many things in the Church in those dayes why may not Magistrates do the like now H. Wife The Kings of Israel were Types of Christ in their Government shadowing forth him who was to have the Government of his Israel his Church which is his Kingdom according to old Jacob's Prophesie The Scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a Law-giver from between his feet until Shilo come and now Shilo which is the King of Peece is come all other Regal power over the Church is ceased VV. But Husband there were no Christian Magistrates in Christ's time to commit the Government unto which may seem to altar the case and the Apostle biddeth us submit to every Ordinance of man for the Lord's sake H. VVife If Christ had seen Christian Magistrates necessary for the Government of his Kingdom he could as easily have turned the hearts of Kings and Emperors as he could the owner of the Ass to send her at his demand or brought the Fish to the Angle with money in his mouth to pay Tribute to Caesar And whereas the Apostle bids Submit c. he means only in Civil things otherwise if Augustus and other Heathen Emperours under whom they lived had commanded them to have worshipped their Heathen gods they must have committed Idolatry But Nebuchadnezzar's Act of uniformity and Daniels resisting to obey cleers up the case fully VV.
quarrel with me Begone thou cowardly fellow begone what afraid of an old man with a wooden Dagger said I for shame begone So I say to these Mastive fellows Begone ye cowardly fellows begone what afraid of a naked-man What 's the matter ye are afraid of cannot a poor man and his wife talk lovingly by the fire-side nor in bed neither but ye are offended at it 't is but a wooden Dagger come forth and fight it out with me and my wife non virgis sed verbis I assure you she is a hansome woman and some of your Tribe love to deal in such ware love corporal uncleanness as well as spiritual but she is too honest to deal with you upon such terms You were Champions for the King that you were no marvel though the King lost the day when his Souldiers are afraid of a wooden Dagger Hath your Kingdom such slender props it drends falling by such weapons What 's the matter that Crackfart your Blood-hound attends my motion and pursues me and threatens me with Gate-house and Gallows and Warrants granted forth for my apprehension Have ye no weapons in Davids Armory to fight withal sure he is not your King But when I consider that you are the Locusts and that the Locusts have no King but the Angel of the Bottomless Pit and that Prisons Gallows Banishments Fire and Fines are such weapons as come forth of the Antichristian Armory and that your time is but short I do not blame you poor wretches to be afraid of a wooden Dagger But good Wife keep this Letter close Well poor Wat shift for thy self from Form to Misset and leave the Wood and take the Corn fields and run counter take heed they do not course thee to the Gallows hill and there give thee a turn and make poor Wat cry Squeak squeak But my Dear I am in all straits and necessities sure to finde a Friend of you and I expect the worst that may befall me I am but positively high yet above the reach of Envy and yet so superlatively low that I am beneath it Qui cadet in terram c he that falls to the ground can fall no lower as comparatively rich as he that hath the World and that satisfaction at home which the world cannot afford abroad and that content in you which the world cannot afford me without you 'T is not the old Witch the World when we had it by the nose nor since it hath caught us by the nose nor my Lady Care her Cousin could cozen you out of your old inmates Peace and Patience and were it not for you with a great charge of young Children I were in mediis lacera puppe relinquor aquis left as a free-born English-man to enjoy the priviledge of a rative birthright which is To heg starve er steal and be hang'd Yet I fear not the Providence of God I have had a back but not without a coat and found a God when quite without a great who fits my stomack to my meat and my mind to my coat so that I can sing with Hortace Sit mihi mensa tripes er concha puri salis Et toga quae defenderit frigus quamvis crassa queat Give me a tripede for my table and for my salt a shell A gown though it be course so it will cold expel My Dear painful steps and old age give me a summons to the grave In my last will I had nothing to leave my poor Children but each Child Adam's Comb I meant their fingers with a desire of God's blessing which might prove a good portion to your self a little of the world with a Great God something for bed nothing for board I would now make you if I knew how as large a Joynture as any Lady hath if cordial affectionate words would do it to support you when that small assistance you have from me ends but I hope there is a Joynture hered it any to you which is your Mothers which as she told us she lay under the sense of Divine Wrath for many years without a God or Christ ready to fall as she apprehended every moment into eternal misery but when Houses Lands Husband deceived of her Joynture and left with small Children and all means gone the Lord came in to her soul and became all things to her and for her Joynture sealed her a full Assurance of Heaven That Joynture I hope will prove yours which is as much happiness as I can wish you I am the more large in my Epistle not having seen your face nor my Childrens a long time whilst head and heart hath stood almost an hundred miles asunder not knowing when I may I take leave and the good-will of Him that dwelt in the Bush he with you and yours which is the desire of your truly affectionate Husband SILAWL A Discourse between a Poor-man and his Wife VVIFE I can tell you more News from Rome There is a Book called Philanax Anglicus or a Caveat to Kings Princes and Prelates how they entrust a pretended sort of Protestants of integrity to commix with them in their Government Shewing plainly from the Principles of all their Predecessors that it 's impossible to be at the same time Presbyterians and not Rebels Faithfully published by Thomas Bellamy Gent. Imprinted at London for Theodore Sadler next door to the Dolphin in the Strand over against Exeter-house 1663. So much of the Title page The Dedication of the Book To the Right Reverend Father in God Gilbert Lord Bishop of London now of Canterbury and Dean of his Majesties Chappel Royal. Bellamy is no less than a Papist as by his railing against Zuinlius Melancton Calvin Martin Luther Buchanan John Wickliff and others will appear and by his esteem of the Mattyrs in Queen Maries dayes accounting them for Rebels Now there is an Act of Queen Elizabeth that none shall sell any Papists Books and yet here is a Papist Book licensed to be printed and Crack-fart at the end of his Intelligence in his Advertisements le ts fly the Book telling where it is to be had And an honest Gentleman lately translated a Book out of the French into the English-tongue and it would not pass the Press and yet the Act of Queen Elizabeth unrepealed See what Medly is here which puts me in mind of a business it was thus Sometimes living at Banbury in Oxfordshire I grew acquainted with one Mr. Sharp a Bookseller who with a Companion of his an old Puritan aswel as himself got into the Church in the night Sharp being Churchwarden and threw down the Images receiving some encouragement from a Doctor who held a Visitation in Banbury being a Peculiat within the Jurisdiction of Linculn who delivered this Observation in his Sermon That it is the duty of every Christian to put to his hand to the pulling down of Idolatry Mr. Sharp is had up into the High-Commission Court where this Doctor was become one of his Judges and