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A57539	Mr. Pryn's good old cause stated and stunted 10 years ago, or, A most dangerous designe in mistating the good by mistaking the bad old cause clearly extricated and offered to the Parliament, the General Council of Officer's, the good people's and army's immediate consideration.	Rogers, John, 1627-1665?	1659 (1659)	Wing R1812; ESTC R34004	15,921	21

Contest 2. That breach of Parliament was not the first Original neither of the differences betwixt the King and Parliament which we find were very Wide and High before that And all indeed upon the account of the Good Old Cause as to substance though indeed but an Embryo unformed substance to what it arose up to after But Mr. Prin gives the Go-by to all this and puts in at another Port or indeed part and that mistakenly too for the WHOLE besides 3rd even in that Declaration he refers us to pag. 38 39 40. the Parliament for the Vindication of their worthy Members do assert the Liberties and Rights of the people before mentioned as much as the Priviledges of Parliament 3. In the Matter or Merit of the Cause by the Declarations of the Lords and Commons Jun. 10 1648. he thinks to Win all at one throw because the raising of the Militia and after that an Army by the Propositions for Money Plate Horse Arms and men was for King and Parliament and for the suppressing of the Traiterous designe of his wicked and Malignant Counsellors and to maintain the Protestant Religion the Kings Authority and person in Royal Dignity the free course of Justice and Laws of the LAND Peac● of the Kingdome and Priviledges of Parliament and here saith he you have the Good Old Cause truely clearly and fully stated by both Houses of Parliament in every particular branch thereof But let us a little unravel and Ex●ricate the matter and ground of the quarrel between us and the King from his Fallacies Extra Dictionem as well as in Dictione we do not deny but here the Good Old Cause appeared Yet not so fully truely and every Branch thereof stated as Mr. Prin affirms or as it grew up unto afterward both in Parli●ment Army and Nation yet in a sense or secundum quid it did appear thus 1. For King and Parliament together as the Supream Counsel of the Nation And yet at the same time too AGAINST the King so f●rre as he was inseparable from his Evil and wicked Malignant Counsellours the reason is this because the Majestas Realis or Tutilari● the Protecting Real Authority and Majesty of the King was with the Parliament all along though the titularis was with his own person and evil Counsellors So that they must needs carry on All in the Name and Authority too of King and Parliament so long a● Kingship lasted Therefore when the King in person entred the Parliament and demanded the five Members the Parliament declared Jan. 17. 1641. the same was a Traiterous Designe against King and Parliament For indeed they were both in the Authority and Majesty Real so long as the King adhered to his Evil Counsel They fought not against his Real Majestie but denied that he had it with his Evil Counsellors whom they engaged against and so against all that could not be separated therefrom See the Declaration of Lords and Commons for I must meddle with no other to Mr. Prin's Cause they close it thus So that it rests onely that the FREE-BORN English do consider whether they Will adhere to the King and his Parliament by which they have so long enjoyed all that is dear to them Or to the King seduced by Jesuitical Counsel and Cavaliers who have designed all to slavery and confusion which by Gods bl●ssing and our joynt endeavours may be timely prevented 2. To maintain Religion the Kings Person and Authority Both Houses of Parliament the Laws and Liberties of the people i. e. so farre as they could consist or be kept together was the CAUSE but when that was impossible and could not be effected no not by all the Remonstrances Intreaties Messages Treaties or Means used day and night for that purpose Th●n their Work was to maintain what they could of it viz. the Liberties of the people and their Representatives and this was the GOOD OLD CAUSE To sa●isfie Mr. Prin if it may be by the Resolves of Parliament when both Houses sat 20 May 1642. Resolved That whensoever the King maketh Warre upon the Parliament it is a breach of the trust Repos●d in him by his people contrary to his Oath and tendeth to the dissolution of this Government i. e. Ki●gly Government and Was not this the Good Old Cause I pray Even in Mr. Prin's own account Anno 1642. though it be not now The Consequent of the Argument is obvious to every eye If the King made the Warre upon the Parliament it tended to the Dissolution of his Kingly Government But the King made the Warre upon the Parliament by Mr. Prins and Mr. Baxter's own Concession who say the Parliament w●re on the Defensive and by their own Argument it must be then the Good Old Cause which stands upon the dissolution of that old Government viz. King Lords and Commons and which maintains now in sensu Composito all the Rights and Liberties of People and Parliament though the Kingly Government be lost and dissolved by his own Wars 3. And although there be a truth yet it is not all the truth that Mr. Prin sayes but with fall●ciâ Accidentis and improperly seeing the predicated Liberty and Rights of the People require neither a House of Lords nor Court I mean of King to the Essence of them This form of Government by King Lords and Commons being laid in the thick of Popery by King Henry 1. for the Popes Interest as well as his own Mr. Prin cannot deny which merits the denomination of his Good Old Cause This indeed was hatch'd and laid by the Romish Gibeonites but not ours of the Commonwealth And the truth is if we desire to be reduced to dark Popery and stark Slavery Mr. Prin's Good Old Cause is then the best But will he weigh the Grounds upon which the most Honourable Parliament that ever went before it declared the House of Lords dissolved as well as Kingship March 19. 1648. The Commons of England Assembled in Parliament finding by too long experience the House of Lords is uselesse and dangerous to the People of England So upon March 17. 1648. Whereas by the Abolition of the Kingly Office a most happy Way is made for this Nation if God see it good to return to its just and Antient Right of being Governed by its own Repres●ntatives National Meetings in Council from time to time c. This was all upon the account of the Good Old Cause and is indeed the True Old Cause first contended for in the more inform substance of it now in a better excrescence of Beauty and Perfection above what before appeared And if Mr. Prin or Mr. Baxter can make it appear this was plotted by the Jesuits as we can theirs by Papists I shall become their Proselyte in the state of the Case but if that yet he will maintain the House of Lords in the foundation of them I must desire him to reconcile himself to himself or his present Argument with

upon a Conjunction of Interests and by many sly pretences especially tying all together by the predicated Liberty for all Religions c. Who can read it without blushing and amazement that such a Man as Mr. Baxter whom I have ever valued should so little value himself or his Calling Was there no war waged since that for K and Parliament no Cause afoot for the People of God or hath the Army and all been Jesuited since the New Model and was that Act of Justi●● such an odious Fact in Mr. Baxter's eyes why then did he hide it all this while But he will pay it now it seems for in p. 323. I do therefore leave it here to Posterity that it was utterly against the Mind and Thoughts of Protestants and of those they called Puritans to put the King to death and 12. evidences forementioned are undeniable Arguments that it was the work of Papists Libertines Vanists and Anabaptists So p. 355 356. Really if you take either Vanists or Levellers who were the chief Agents for Protestants you may as well say Papists are Protestants Wi●h abundance more of such abominable stuffe as makes it not onely a Scandalum Magnum but a SCANDALUM MAGNATUM very unsavory and unsufferable for a Minister that should be a Teacher of others to abuse the dearest and highest WORTHIES of our Nation so seeing it is written Exod. 22.28 Thou shalt not revile the Gods nor curse the Rulers of the people and this to the great Reproach of the Common-wealth the Army the Parliament and well-affected People or of all that are against the Bad Old Cause and for the Good Can a higher spirit of Malignity appear in men or is it probable they would presume so if their expectations were not high and with what confidence or credulity can this man affirm that no Protestant had a hand in that Act of Justice Was there not a Protestant of them all above six score appointed to sit upon him or if he means no Presbyterian and accounts none else for Protestants yet it is a most strange indiscretion and thick emotion of passion that impedes his eye from seeing the most of that judgement and of the largest size and Character too that fate in that Court Or what proof can he produce to make good the charge of King-killing much lesse I presume that it was of the Iesuites laying or if he cannot how will he expiate and compensate for the injury obloqu● and publick Infamy Could common sense or civility take this Liberty but upon some design or other presupposed able to indemnifie for all Seeing the Parliaments Act was in open justice but Jesui●es Act in Plots and Clandestinely yea they indeed murther but the Parliament executed judgemen● they do it by inferiour hands but the Parliament by superiour they sneakingly and perfidiously but the Parl. honourably and after Conquest they do it for confusion and disorder but the Parliament did it for peace and publick safety They to destroy but the Parliament to keep the good and ends of Government So that with what forehead can any man or malice it self suggest that this was a thing laid by the Iesuites but with an intent to write indeed after their copy in as bloudy Characters if he can at least let us suspect i● seeing Mr. Baxter saies p. 341. I confesse I think an ingenuous open Papist should have a great deal more gentle dealing from our Magistrates then these For my own part I must confesse I feel a great deal of charity in my heart for a conscientious plain dealing Papist and I would never be guilty o● cruelty or rigour to them Thus far have these two Champions 〈◊〉 op●n faced in this first Design of Fathering●he highe●●Acts of the Commonweal upon the Jesuites and that Fraternity but let the s●b●● judge and the Lord decide who judgeth righteously Psal. II. The second Design is to p●ssesse if the People will but take a new edition of it with this that the Government by King Lords and Commons is the Very Contignation and ●rue State of the Good Old Cause and that the Common-wealth Government is but a new Oglio Toads-stool and not worth the naming the Good Old Cause in Pamphlet pag. 1 2 3 4 5. c. for this he quotes the Votes Orders Ordinances Remonstrances and Declararations of Lords and Commons in Par●iament and because he will not hear or own the Cause of Parliaments since I shall deal with him out of them all the Commissions of the Lord Generals of the Armies and the Scotish Covenant but miserably misapplying them with Fallacious consequences and conclusions upon them both as to the ORIGINAL and MERIT of the Cause 1. He is very Remote from an Honest Ingenuous and Right stating the true Good Old Cause in its ORIGINAL when he sayes p. 2. the first Original was the Kings coming into the Parliament Jan. 4. 1641. to demand the five Members and that upon this breach of priviledge the Houses required the power of the Militia True this might ini●iate that part of the quarrel with the King for breach of Parliament-Priviledges but was this all or all the Cause With his leave we finde even in his own Book of Coll. the Good Old Cause for substance asserted before that and by both Houses of Parliament which he might have seen wi●hout Spectacles had it pleased him For depriving the Bishops of Votes in Parliament For abridging their usurped power For the taking away all oppressions in matters of Religion For tendernesse to weak consciences For the due excuting those good Laws made for the securing the LIBERTY of the subject So on that fifteenth d. in the Remonstrance of the State of the Kingdom Against Bishops High-Commission-Courts Prerogatives forced Loans of Money Injustice and further p. 20. for the better preservation of the Laws and LIBERTIES of the Kingdom that all Illegal grievances and exactions be presented and punished c. Also that the Good Old Cause for our Liberties Civil and Religious was asserted before this Breach of Parliament-priviledge may be seen by the King 's own Reply too Sayes he The fears and jealousies which may make some impression in the mindes of our people we will suppose may be of two sorts Either for Religion or Liberty and their Civil Interest c. Now This may easily obviate Mr. Prin's fallaciam {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} first for that this breach of Parliament-priviledge by demanding the five Members was not the onely Cause of the Contest or of requiring the Militia much lesse of the Warre between King and Parliament which he saith ended in the mutual destruction of each other pag. 2. l. 13 14. But it is our mercy that it is no such matter and that the Parliament did and doth survive do what they can that would not have it so but withall the Salui Populi the Safety and Liberty of the people both in Spirituals and Civils was the Cause of the