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A63174 The triall of Elizabeth Cellier, at the Kings-bench-barr, on Friday June the 11th, 1680 Cellier, Elizabeth, fl. 1680, defendant.; England and Wales. Court of King's Bench. 1680 (1680) Wing T2187; ESTC R2738 9,299 17

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THE TRIALL OF Elizabeth Cellier AT THE Kings-bench-Barr On Friday June the 11 th 1680. LONDON PRINTED for Randal Taylor in the Year 1680. The TRYAL of ELIZABETH CELLIER at the Kings Bench Barr on Friday June the 11th 1680. where the usual Formalities being passed and the Jury Sworn the Indictment was read which is as followeth The INDICTMENT THe Jurers for our Lord the King do present that Elizabeth Cellier Wife of Peter Cellier late of the Parish of St. Clement Danes in the County of Middlesex Gent. stands Indicted for that she as a false Traytoress against our most illustrious and excellent Prince King Charles the Second her natural Lord not having God before her Eyes nor weighing the Duty of her Allegiance but by the Instigation of the Devil moved and seduced and the Cordial Love and true due natural Obedience which all faithful Subjects of our said Lord the King towards him should bear and of right are bound to bear utterly withdrawing and divising and with all her Might intending the Peace and common Tranquillity of this Kingdom to disturb and to bring and put our said Lord the King to Death and final Destruction and the true Worship of God in this Realm by the Law Established and Used to alter to the Superstition of the Church of Rome to move and stir up War against the King in this Kingdom and to subvert the Government of this Realm the first Day of November in the thirty first Year of the said Kings Reign at the Parish of St. Clement Danes aforesaid with divers other false Traytors unknown trayterously did compass imagine and intend the killing death and final destruction of our said Lord the King and to change alter and utterly to subvert the antient Government of this Realm and to depose and wholly to deprive him the said King of his Crown and Government of this Kingdom and to extirpate the true Religion within this Realm established and to fulfil and accomplish the same most wicked Treasons and traterous Imaginations and Purposes the same Elizabeth Cellier and other false Traytors unknown the said 1 st day of November in the 31 th Year aforesaid with Force and Arms c. at the Parish of St. Clements Danes aforesaid advisedly divillishly malitiously and traterously assembled united and gathered themselves together and then and there devilishly advisedly malitiously cunningly and traterously consulted and agreed to bring the said Lord the King to Death and final Destruction and to depose and deprive him of his Crown and Government and so introduce and establish the Romish Religion in this Kingdom and the sooner to fulfil and effect the same most wicked Treasons and traiterous Imaginations and Purposes the said Elizabeth Cellier and other unknown Traytors then and there did contribute pay and expend divers great Sums of Mony to several unknown Persons to procure them traiterously to kill the said King and introduce the Romish Religion into this Realm and for the better concealing of the Treasons aforesaid the said Elizabeth Cellier then and there did pay and expend to divers other Persons unknown divers other Sums of Mony falsely to impose the said Treasons upon some other Persons unknown against the Duty of her Allegiance and against the Peace of our Lord the King his Crown and Dignity and against the Form of the Statute in such Case made and provided c. John Gadbury Sworn L.C.J. Mr. Gadbury What do you know concerning this Plot Mr. Gadbury I know nothing of it neither one way nor another L.C.J. Do you know of any Contrivance of Mrs. Celliers to kill the King Mr. G. No rather the contrary L.C.J. Do you know of any attempts to change the Government M G. I will tell your Lordship what I do know if these Gentlemen will not be too nimble for me I have suffered a great deal of Prejudice of late in relation to a Plot as if I had known of a Plot but God is my Witness I know of none unless it were a Plot to bring Sir Robert Peyton over to the Kings Interest That Plot I had some Concern in and had some knowledge of Mrs. Celliers Concern in it but she was so far from doing any thing against the Kings Interest that she was willing to bring over with him the three Gentlemen turn'd out of Commission when Sir Robert was So that how she could be acting for the King and against the King at the same time I do not understand L.C.J. Mr. Gadbury You are a man of Learning pray will you give your Testimony of the things that you know in relation to Mrs. Cellier Mr. G. Mrs. Cellier was not committed upon my Accusation therefore I hoped she might have been tryed without my Testimony But when I was in danger of my Life when I lay in the Gate-house Mrs. Cellier was reported to be a third Witness against me and then I raked up every trifle but if I had thought it Treason I would have discovered it before And as to that particular Business concerning Mr. Smith that Smith sometime since did come to me being my old Acquaintance to ask my advice in his Affairs and he had then an Affair of so great moment that it was necessary to ask my Advice in it which was to go to the Lords in the Tower I asked him what to do saith he I can say enough against Dr. Oats to serve them and take off his Evidence and asked me if he should do it By no means Mr. Smith said I. Mrs. Cellier afterwards told me this Smith and one Phillips were willing to tell some Stories or other of Mr. Oats and Mr. Bedlow and I told her this very Story saith she you being acquainted with him it is possible you may do some good upon him and saith she I had as lieve as ten Guineys that you could do it L.C.J. That is when that you advised Mr. Smith not to meddle with any thing against Dr. Oats Mr. G. She said she did not care if she had been at the Charge of ten Guineys if he would be honest and discover the Truth And my Lord she did say she had heard Mr. Dangerfield talk of a Nonconformists Plot that would off the Popish Plot. L.C.J. Did she say that she had heard Dangerfield say there was a Nonconformists Plot and that he was to have a Commission among them and did she say that she had heard him say that he hoped under the colour of that the Popish Plot would go on or did she say it of her own accord that she hoped that would carry on the Popish Plot Mr. Gad. My Lord I cannot remember particulars L.C.J. There is a great deal of difference between Dangerfields saying it and her saying it Mr. G. I have no reason to spare her but I am unwilling to speak any thing that is contrary to truth though she hath done me the greatest Injury in the World L.C.J. How came you to talk of a Non-conformists Plot Mr. G.
It was only common Discourse as it was at Coffee-Houses R. Had you heard of it before she spake of it that you say it was common Mr. G. No not till she spake of it L.C.J. Did Mrs. Cellier tell you of any Popish Priests or Jesuits coming hither from beyond the Seas Mr. G. Upon the going over of one Clay I think she did say she heard there were some more coming over L.C.J. What to do Mr. G. God knows what L.C.J. Did she speak of any Plot or Contrivance to kill the King Mr. G. No she was always an Enemy to Plots or else I would not have kept her Company L.C.J. Did she say there were or that she heard there were several Priests and Jesuits coming over Mr. G. My Lord I think she said she heard it And I have said several times to her the Popish Plotters would be destroyed but she answered she was afraid the Nation would be destroyed first L.C.J. Did she say she was afraid of it or that the Nation would be destroyed first I ask you once more we must try People according to their Oaths By the Oath you have taken when you said you thought the Popish Plotters would be destroyed what Answer did she make Mr. G. She said she was afraid the Nation would be so because she said abundance of the best of the Nation went into other Nations to weaken our Nation and spend their Mony and therefore she was afraid the Nation would be destroyed before them L.C.J. What Discourse had you with Mrs. Cellier passing through Westminster Abby Mr. G. My Lord my memory hath been exceedingly bruised but I remember my Lord as I was going through the Abby in a rainy afternoon she said this Abby was formerly filled with Benedictine Monks or something to that purpose and saith she what if it should be so again L. C. J. Are you a Protestant or a Papist Mr. G. A Protestant my Lord. L.C.J. He talks as like a Papist as can be was it what if it should be filled Mr. G. She said what if it should be again L.C.J. What did you say to that Mr. G. I only smiled to hear a Womans Discourse my Lord. L.C.J. You make all the Company laugh What did she say of the Temple Mr. G. That the Temple had been filled with Fryars too L.C.J. And what then Did she talk of filling it again Mr. G. Saith she this Place was filled with Benedictine Monks and the Temple with Fryars L C.J. This may do well enough but what did she say else concerning the Temple Mr. G. Nothing my Lord. Mr. Serjeant Maynard said something to him here which was not heard but Mr. Gadbury replyed Mr. G. Mr Serjeant I was none of the Tribe of forty one Here Mr. Gadbury was going to read in his Paper but the Court told him that would not be allowed but he might refresh his Memory with it L.C.J. Now tell me what she said Mr. Gadbury keep it in your Hand Mr. G. My Lord she put it by way of Interrogation to feel my Pulse L.C.J. What did she say else M. G. There was nothing but transient Discourse my Lord. L.C.J. We must ask you what the truth is and you have looked upon your Paper Now consider what you say and consider that you are upon a solemn Occasion and are to testify it in the presence of God Almighty I would have you tell plainly what it is and neither to make it more nor stifle it Mr. G. It was only transient discourse L.C.J. Say what it was Was it this Place was once filled with Benedictine Monks Mr. G. She said that the Abby had been filled with Benedictine Monks as the Temple had with Fryars J. Jones Look upon your Paper L.C.J. You have looked upon the Paper and pray tell us what she said Did she say she hoped to see this Place filled with Benedictines Mr. G. My Lord I do not remember that word hope J. J. How long have you been acquainted with Mrs. Cellier Mr. G. Ten or a dozen Years L.C.J. Did she never ask you any Questions about the Life of the King M. G. My Lord when the King was very ill at Windsor and all People were fearful that he would die she did move the Question to me L.C.J. What Question Mr. G. To know whether I thought his Majesty would live or die but it was her fear that he would die L.C.J. Had you seen the King Mr. G. No my Lord. L.C.J. How then did she expect you should give her an Answer from your Art Mr. G. From my Art my Lord. L.C.J. Did she desire you to consult your Art how long the King would live Mr. G. She did as I said L.C.J. What did you say to that Mr. G. I would not tell her because he was my Soveraign L.C.J. VVhat Answer did you make Mr. G. I told her I would not meddle with it L.C.J. She would have had you consult your Art or Scheme or whatever it is to know whether the King would live or die Mr. G. It was something of that L.C.J. And you said you would not meddle nor make with it Mr. G. Yes my Lord. L.C.J. She desired you to make a Scheme Mr. G. No my Lord I can't say she mentioned a Scheme but she asked the Question J. Raymend What did she ask else Mr. G. Only that Question L.C.J. How often do you believe she spake of it Mr. G. Never my Lord but when he was ill I will not baffle any thing that may conduce to the safety of the King and Kingdom L.C.J. Indeed it is very conducible to the safety of the King and Kingdom if any go about to destroy him and with evil Intentions to ask how long he will live and you ought in Duty to God and your Soveraign to declare it Did she ever make any enquiries about the Kings Death more than what you have said Mr. G. No more my Lord and then she was fearful he would die L.C.J. Did she say she would go to some Body else Mr. G. My Lord when she perceived me shy saith she I see you are afraid of me I will go to some other Astrologer L.C.J. For what Mr. G. To satisfy her Curiosity as a great many do L.C.J. What Curiosities did she ask besides this Mr. G. She would ask me sometimes about the Condition of Bodies whether they would be prosperous in the World and several other Questions L.C.J. Were you nice in these Curiosities Mr. G. Truely my Lord I was shy of meddling with any thing when I heard there was a talk about Plots L.C.J. Was you nice to give her satisfaction according to her hopes concerning these things you call Curiosities questioning whether one should be well wedd how many Children she should have c. VVere you scrupulous in that Mr. G. I think I might not be nice in that very particular L.C.J. How came it then that she would go to another Astrologer Mr. G. She asked me something about Mr.