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A76289 A briefe ansvver to R.H. his booke, entitled, The true guide, &c. Wherein are occasionally declared and proved by Scripture these particular things following: [brace] first, that the baptisme of water is a distinct baptisme from the baptisme of the spirit. ... Sixthly, in what sense some things related in Scripture are not Scripture, with divers other particulars occasionally spoken of. / By R.B. a well-wisher to the truth, and R.H. R. B., Well-wisher to the truth. 1646 (1646) Wing B159; Thomason E357_2; ESTC R16628 31,113 40

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further In Page 6. saying what Scripture have any to raile against the Parliament Answ Truly none that I know of nor any warrant at all to be unfaithfull toward them in the least who have been so carefull of our peace and safety and so faithfull towards us though some would have had it otherwise But R. H. would make the world beleeve that those that differ from his opinions and practices are such and therefore mentions divers opinions and among the rest this Interrogatory to render them as hatefull to the world as possibly he can as this Interrogatory especially must needs do if it were true but it may be he hath heard some that stand opposite to his opinions speake foolishly that way though for my part all those that I am intimate with stand to this day as cordiall and reall for the Parliament as ever as our neighbours can testifie But contrariwise I have heard of some of his opinion that have proved unfaithfull to the Parliament should I therefore take occasion to make mention of the actions of some few of his opinion to the world to render all of the same opinion odious yet this is the very drift of his mentioning this thing as may appeare to them that read his Booke But it may be he will say he doth but interrogate but he may know well that interrogations are either strong affirmations or strong negations and I thinke he will not say it is a negation but should I have begun and done such a thing so publiquely against them of his opinion I should have been thought at least a seducer unjustly endeavouring to draw the Parliament and well affected peoples affections from such His next things he mentions in the same page are Magistrates Masters and Fathers Verily I know none that are accused by R. H. that take away in the least from Parliament Masters or Fathers what God nature and this whole Kingdome hath invested them with severally from God but I never yet read in the Gospell of Christ Jesus that ever he gave any in the world power over the consciences of his people in matter of worship 1 Cor. 7.23 Ye are bought with a price be not the servants of men Col. 2.20 Why as though living in the world are ye subject to Ordinances touch not taste not handle not which all perish with the using after the Commandements and Doctrines of men But marke the enmity of this man against them hee opposes hee would have them thought to bee such as cry downe superiority and inferiority and yet he knowes well they stand for all due subjection to Caesars Masters and Fathers as much as he if not more For we conceive all civill subjection to be due to such whether Heathens or Christians but if he will give to them that which belongs to God we are not bound to doe so too by his example we acknowledge no power in matter of worship above Christ Jesus who is the only Law-giver to his people whose government differs from Moses government even as his house differs from his Heb. 3.2 3 4 5 6. who was faithfull to him that appointed him as also Moses was faithfull in all his house And Moses verily was faithfull in all his house as a servant but Christ as a sonne over his own house c. So that the Government of Moses house is as unfit for Christs house as a poore cottagers for a Kings house Besides Moses house yea even that whose State being shaddowish when Christ the body came the shaddowes must needs fly away as Solomon saith then to what purpose serve his proofes from the examples of the Kings of Judah more then of the Priests of Judah for the Government of Christs house unlesse they are understood spiritually and not according to the Letter For were not the Kings and Priests of Judah both types of Christ Jesus Now if he will more argue from the one than from the other let him shew his grounds from Scripture if he will argue from both as he must of necessity if he do from either then how wil he escape the Episcopall order even the Papall power of Rome it self which they raise up to the foundation of the Aaronical Priesthood But it may be R. H. is not throughly convinced of the truth and extent of the typicality of that estate nor the spirituality of the present Gospell state as the antitype of that Let him therefore a little consider first the Land is called holy Zach. 2.12 The glory of all Lands Ezek. 20.6 Emmanuels Land Esay 8.8 the typicall rest Deut. 12.9 10. Which when men beleeve they are said to enter into not that naturall Canaan but the spirituall rest Heb. 4.3 For we which have beleeved enter into rest c Besides Jerusalem when the Jewish state stood was the chiefest place of Gods worship unto which all men of that Nation were bound to resort three times a yeare according to the Law Exod. 34 23 24. Thrice in the yeare shall all your men children appeare before the Lord. So Psal 122. But now every where and in every Nation men may worship God if they worship him in Spirit and truth John 4.20 21 23. The houre commeth when ye shall neither in this Mountaine nor in Jerusalem worship the Father But the houre commeth and now is when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in Spirit and truth Acts 10 35. In every Nation he that feareth him and worketh righteousnesse is accepted of him Secondly The people were separated from other people to God Levit. 20.26 I the Lord am holy and have severed you from other people that you should be mine But where hath God in the Gospell separated any whole Nation or Kingdome as a peculiar people but rather chuseth out to himselfe a people by the voyce of the Gospel not of all Nations but out of all Nations and tongues Rev. 5.9 Thou hast redeemed us by thy bloud out of every kindred and tongue and people and Nation And is it not plaine that the spirituall Israel holy Nation and peculiar people as Peter calls them 1 Pet. 2.9 ●re the true Antitype of that Thirdly The Priesthood was typicall as may be seene at large Heb. 7 8 9 Chapters what was signified by it and how and in whom fulfilled Lastly To go no further though much more might be said the Kingdome of Judah was typicall to Christ according to that Gen. 49.10 The Scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a Law-giver from between his feet till Shilo come So Hos 3 5. Afterward the children of Israel shall returne and seeke the Lord their God and David their King and shall feare the Lord and his goodnesse in the latter daies Ezek. 37.22 24 25 And I will make them one Nation and one King shall be King to them all ver 24. And David my servant shall be their King Amos 9.11 In that day I will raise up the Tabernacle of David that is falne So Esay 9.6
Dan 7. Joh 1.49 Thou art the King of Israel So Luke 1.32 Acts 2.30 and many more places And which is more the Law-giving power was so appropriated to Judahs Tribe that it was common to none other in the world with him and observe that this Law-giving power I do not say Law-making power for that was wholy delivered to them from God 1 Chron. 28.11 to the end 2 Chron. 29.25 2 Chron. 31.2 3. was so peculiar to Judahs Tribe that it was not common no not to the Kings of Israel who were Christian Kings by profession and lawfull by Gods approbation 1 King 11. else now were any Kings lawfull either in Israel or Judah for God told them expresly when they desired a King first that they had cast him off that he should not raigne over them 1 Sam. 8.5 6 7. But as Gods approbation of it afterwards made that lawfull so also this having also Gods approbation before the division 1 Kings 11.31 37 38. And he said to Jeroboam take thee ten pieces for thus saith the Lord I will rend the Kingdom out of the hands of Solomon and give ten Tribes unto thee and if thou harken to what I command thee and keep my Statutes as David my servant did I will be with thee and build thee a sure house as I built for David and will give Israel unto thee Yet he never approved of their actions about his worship for that as I said was peculiar to Judahs Tribe yet even this priviledge that was in Judahs Tribe was no morall right but typicall and shadowish only and so was wholy to vanish away and cease for ever when Christ came Gen. 49.10 Ezek. 21.26 27. Thus saith the Lord remove the Diadem and take off the Crowne this shall not be the same exalt him that is low and abase him that is high I will overturne overturne overturne it and it shall be no more untill he come whose right it is and I will give it him Now no Civill Kings of the Nations of this world were typed out but Christ Jesus only from whom it is that all Beleevers in a spirituall respect are equally Kings and Priests 1 Pet. 2.5 Rev. 1.6 for even as the Land People and Priesthood were types of a Spirituall not Civill Land People and Priesthood even so their Kings must also have their Spirituall Antitypes and so it followes clearly not Civill but spirituall even Christ Jesus is the true Antitype shadowed forth for if it were not so the very essentiallity of types and figures would be taken away and destroyed but the Civill power which is from nature and so Morall and perpetuall continues still and subjection to it is expresly commanded in Civill things Rom. 13. 1 Pet. 2.13 14. whereas subjection to it in matters Spirituall is as expresly forbidden Matth. 20 25 26 27 Luke 22.25 26 27. 1 Cor. 7.23 Col. 2.20 22. Mat. 15.9 And this is the true sense of the Gospell in this point thus clearly distinguishing betwixt the Civill and Spirituall power A little further he sets the Scriptures at variance amongst themselves and so leaves them never shewing what the spirit of God meanes in those places of Jude 3. Contend earnestly for the faith once given to the Saints and Mat. 11. The Kingdome of Heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force But he doth in this case as some Fishes who will make the water thick and muddie that they may the easier get away undiscerned it may be he counteth all calling into question his wayes to be contention though it be done lovingly and his open calumniating others that differ from him to be no striving nor contention giving them his charitable brand a perverse and obstinate people But if this be his charity we desire he should keep it to himselfe and pretend lesse love and intend more In Page 7. his second rule to try the spirits is this Those motions or perswasions that are pleasing to the flesh and take most with naturall men are not from the spirit of God His proofes are Gal. 5.17 1 Cor. 2.14 For the flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh c. Whereto I answer Our wayes cannot please naturall men for we declare to them that untill they be borne againe and beleeve in Christ they are carnall still Rom. 8.9 If any man have not the spirit of God he is none of his And so being not beleevers they cannot be true Church-members But they admit all without exception and is not that pleasing to flesh and bloud to have their carnall wayes and yet be counted Gods children too as is plaine by their communicating with them in their Church-priviledges But let R. H. goe about to unchurch them and take away that Religion that they seeme to have from them and then he shall see plainly whether it will displease flesh and bloud or no. It followes page 7. What profit is it that we keep his Ordinances Verily if R. H. have repented of any service performed by him to God that was not Gods he hath done well and I hope he will say the same by us doing the like but if he meanes it of that service that indeed is Gods I know none that repents of any service performed to God unlesse it be of their wants and weaknesses in their performances c. It followes page 8. where he quotes a place out of Matth. 24.26 and once before Pag. 2. but his Reader may go seeke the true sense the words are these Wherefore if they shall say to you he is in the desert go not forth behold he is in the secret chamber beleeve it not c. But what doth he thinke is meant by the desert where is it thinks he Is it some wildernesse naturall where wild Beasts inhabite this is indeed a naturall construction or is it Spirituall which verily is more likely according to that Rev. 12. whither the woman fled for shelter and was preserved there rather by Gods providence than by vertue of any true outward Church-Office and Ordinance For the outward Court was given to the Gentiles Rev. 11.2 and the true visible Ministry by Office was departed and an earthly one succeeded all that time of the forty two moneths Revel 9.1 I saw a Star fall from heaven to the earth and to him was given the key of the bottomlesse pit And in Rev. 11.2 it is said the outward Court was given to the Gentiles and this is that departing foretold by the Apostle Paul 2 Thes 2.3 That day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sinne be revealed see Acts 20.29 After my departing shall grievous Wolves enter in among you not sparing the flocke And by our Saviour Mat. 24.24 25 26. For there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets c. Luke 17.21 22 23. So that the Saints being in their spirituall Babylonish captivity no marvell that their state was so confused For as