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A56065 The propositions of the Roman Catholicks of Ireland as also the answer of the agents for the Protestants of Ireland made to the said propositions, and their petitions and propositions to His Majesty, and His Majesties answer to the propositions of the said Roman Catholicks, and the answer of James, Marquesse of Ormond, His Majesties Commissioner for the treatie and concluding of a peace in the kingdome of Ireland, to the said propositions. Confederate Catholics.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. 1644 (1644) Wing P3800; ESTC R36692 41,588 78

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contract_v or_o agree_v for_o his_o majesty_n be_v please_v that_o the_o course_n prescribe_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o twelve_o additional_a proposition_n be_v observe_v 7._o his_o majesty_n may_v not_o admit_v that_o the_o govern_n of_o the_o inn_n of_o court_n university_n and_o free-schoole_n by_o such_o statute_n rule_n and_o order_n as_o his_o majesty_n shall_v approve_v of_o and_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o england_n will_v debar_v roman_a catholic_n so_o long_a as_o they_o be_v of_o that_o religion_n from_o attain_v to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n or_o any_o other_o learning_n within_o the_o kingdom_n for_o those_o of_o that_o religion_n in_o england_n and_o who_o go_v from_o hence_o do_v attain_v the_o knowledge_n of_o both_o in_o the_o university_n and_o inn_n of_o court_n there_o in_o a_o eminent_a manner_n and_o may_v do_v the_o like_a here_o 8._o there_o be_v no_o office_n or_o place_n except_v in_o the_o former_a answer_n the_o proposer_n may_v 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dispose_v of_o as_o his_o majesty_n will_v direct_v 3._o to_o the_o three_o they_o say_v that_o so_o much_o of_o the_o profit_n therein_o mention_v as_o grow_v dew_n since_o the_o seven_o day_n of_o august_n 1641._o on_o which_o day_n happen_v that_o enforce_a and_o fatal_a adjournement_n of_o the_o parliament_n from_o whence_o all_o the_o distraction_n of_o this_o kingdom_n do_v spring_n as_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o say_v confederate_a catholic_n and_o many_o a_o hundred_o time_n more_o be_v by_o they_o employ_v and_o expend_v in_o his_o majesty_n service_n for_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o the_o say_a profit_n for_o the_o time_n to_o come_v after_o a_o full_a setlement_n be_v to_o be_v dispose_v by_o such_o hand_n as_o his_o majesty_n shall_v think_v fit_a 4._o to_o the_o four_o they_o say_v that_o the_o free_a gift_n grant_v to_o his_o majesty_n by_o the_o say_v confederate_a catholic_n be_v already_o overpayed_n as_o shall_v be_v make_v appear_v upon_o account_n by_o the_o supreme_a counsel_n of_o the_o say_v confederate_a catholic_n to_o who_o that_o affair_n be_v entrust_v 5._o to_o the_o five_o they_o say_v that_o the_o port_n of_o waterford_n and_o rosse_n be_v within_o the_o quarter_n of_o the_o say_v confederate_a catholic_n by_o the_o article_n of_o cessation_n they_o have_v according_a the_o say_a article_n receive_v the_o profit_n accrue_v out_o of_o the_o custom_n of_o those_o port_n and_o employ_v the_o same_o in_o his_o majesty_n service_n and_o defence_n of_o the_o kingdom_n 6._o 7._o the_o matter_n contain_v in_o the_o sixth_o and_o seven_o demand_n be_v proper_o to_o be_v determine_v in_o such_o manner_n as_o shall_v be_v agree_v upon_o in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o this_o treaty_n and_o what_o further_o concern_v the_o say_a demand_n or_o the_o matter_n in_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o contain_v we_o conceive_v proper_a for_o a_o debate_n &_o to_o be_v determine_v upon_o conclusion_n of_o the_o treaty_n the_o say_v 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or_o castle_n that_o be_v demolish_v contrary_a to_o article_n and_o when_o the_o particular_n shall_v appear_v they_o will_v give_v particular_a answer_n 6._o to_o the_o sixth_o they_o say_v that_o the_o confederate_a catholic_n do_v receive_v no_o profit_n of_o their_o estate_n detain_v from_o they_o wherefore_o they_o conceive_v it_o not_o equal_a that_o the_o protestant_n shall_v receive_v the_o profit_n of_o their_o estate_n until_o after_o setlement_n and_o then_o the_o profit_n of_o both_o estate_n be_v to_o be_v reciprocal_o receive_v by_o all_o party_n respective_o in_o such_o manner_n as_o shall_v be_v agree_v upon_o reasins_z why_o his_o majesty_n say_v roman_a catholic_a subject_n be_v not_o satisfy_v with_o the_o answer_v deliver_v they_o by_o his_o excellency_n the_o lord_n marquis_n of_o ormond_n lord_n lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n his_o majesty_n commissioner_n to_o certain_a proposition_n by_o they_o present_v to_o his_o lordship_n on_o the_o four_o of_o september_n 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