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A84726 A further proposal from His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax, and the Councell of warre of the armie under his command. Desiring the discharge of all such persons as are imprisoned under pretence of conventicles, or for private meetings for religious duties. Also, a petition and remonstaance [sic] from the forces of the Northern Association; declaring the reasons of their apprehending and securing Colonell-Generall Poyntz. By the appointment of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax, and his Councell of Warre. Signed, Iohn Rushworth, Secr. England and Wales. Army. Council.; Fairfax, Thomas Fairfax, Baron, 1612-1671. 1647 (1647) Wing F162; Thomason E399_32; ESTC R201731 4,560 12

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A FURTHER PROPOSAL From His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax AND The Councell of warre of the ARMIE under His COMMAND Desiring the discharge of all such persons as are imprisoned under pretence of Conventicles or for private Meetings for Religious Duties ALSO A Petition and Remonstaance from the Forces of the Northern Association declaring the Reasons of their apprehending and securing Colonell-Generall Poyntz By the appointment of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and his Councell of Warre Signed Iohn Rushwo●th Secr. London Printed for George Whittington and are to be sold at his shop at the signe of the Blew Anchor in Cornhill neere the Royall Exchange 1647. A further Proposall from his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and the Councel of Warre of the Army under his Command WHereas divers persons really affected to the weale and peace of this Kingdome many whereof have ingaged their estates and lives with the Parliament in the late warre are now imprisoned indicted and otherwise very grievously vexed and many others liable to the like trouble by force or pretence of severall Statutes especially intended against those who repaire not to some Church or Chappell to heare the Booke of Common prayer or again●● those who are Popish Recusants and by their not going to Church might be discovered And against these who should hold any Conventicles of Meetings to plot and conspire some mischiefe to the State Now forasmuch as the Parliament hath declared against the Book of Common-prayer and that the said Act against the Conventicles was not intended against people meeting only for Religious Exercises we therefore desire That all persons proceeded against upon the Statutes of 3● Eliz. 3. Iacobi or upon any other Statutes or Acts whatsoever of the same tenour with the premises may be forthwith discharged from their imprisonments indictments or any other molest●tion whatsoever by vertue of the fore-mentïoned Statutes unlesse such persons shall bee proved either Popish Recusants and that by some other way then by their not coming to Church or to have in such private Meetings as aforesaid some perjurious designe conspiracie and practice against the State And for a more effectuall course herein wee desire That the Parliament would be pleased to give orders accordingly to all the Judges of Assizes for this next Circuit throughout the Kingdome of England and Dominion of Wales as part of their Instructions to acquit all persons suffering as aforesaid by vertue or under pretence of the said Statutes otherwise then as before excepted and to give the whole matter so in charge that all Justices of the Peace and whom else the same shall concern may not henceforth a tempt to bring the like trouble upon any other of the well-affectd people of this Kingdome under the like pretence as they will answer the contrary at their perill Redding Iuly 21. 1647. By the appointment of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and his councell of Warre Signed Iohn Rushworth Secr. To his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax Captain General of all the forces in the Kingdome raised for the defence of the Kingdom The humble Petition of the Souldiery of the Northern Association Humbly sheweth THat whereas your Excellencies Petitioners having lately acted in matters that concerne their future well-beinge and safety and also declared their willing complyance and connexion with the Army more immediatly under your Excellencies command wee being engaged thereunto severall wayes accompt it our duty aswell to apprehend their and our opposers for our own security as to defend our selves in the same cause We cannot indeed but with grief relate that there should bee such persons amongst us that durst appeare to act against those principles which first engaged us to the present service Therefore for our owne pres●rvation wee are enforced to act against all such persons of what quality soever whose power might prove destructive to the wel-being of the Subject And accordingly thereupon we have apprehended Col. Gen. Poyntz who alleadged authority for acting against the publike good We considering what dangerous consequent effects did and might flow from such a corrupt member as he and others of the same nature to deprive us of our future happinesse if permitted to remain unremoved who have made use of him and his authority to bring to passe their plots of machivilionisme We therefore humbly present to your Excellency to whom we conceive we ought to repair for redresse as followeth 1. That your Excellency would be pleased seriously to ponder the sadnesse of our condition in being destitute of a Commander in chiefe of known integrity and that accordingly your Excellency would be pleased to helpe us in this our great necessity 2. That your Excellencie would be pleased to further whatsoever may conduce to our future safety for we conceive our selvas very neer to destruction when the Enemies of our well-being have the command over us and would willingly make us accessary to our own thraldome 3. That your Excellency would be pleased to cause this charge to be prosecuted against him by a Councel of Warre of the Army more immediatly under your Excellencies command many Officers here being accessary with him in the same undertaking 4. These things being performed we humbly desire your Excellency seriously to consider our former engagements with you in former service and to take such course for our future supply with pay as we may not lye languishing when our Enemies are in prosperity And your Petitioners shall ever pray c. Colonel Poyntz Regiment John Bradley William Smith Colonel Bethels Regiment Thomas Cambridge William Tomson Colonel Copeley's Regiment John Hodgson William Bates Colonel Ponsonbies Regiment Thomas Hunter Thomas Wharton Colonel Brights Regiment Iohn Drake Iames Marke Colonel Overtons Regiment Iohn Benninton Robert Morrice Col. Collingworths Regiment Robert Sharbie Thomas Shalloket The humble Remonstrance of the Souldiers of the Northern Association to his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax Captain Generall of all the Forces of England raised by the Authority of Parliament May it please your Excellency WHereas wee have lately been put upon actions very publique yet lawfull which we could have wished had been more private had we not been exposed so to mannage the same for necessity sake and in the carrying on of these affaires of so great importance Two things have been laid before us Happinesse and Misery Peace and Warre Welfare and Ruine And unlesse wee should have degenerated from the very principles of nature and consequently have become inhumane wee must have carryed on these affaires as they now appear to have been As for our parts we do seriously protest that the very principles which led us to undertake the service were for the advancement of the Subjects good to wit their just rights and immunities And in the undertaking of the service wee were throughly resolved to live and dye in defence of the same Indeed we cannot but blesse God for that glorious successe which hath been freely given to those that undertooke the service To
this end although our hardships have been very great and occasioned many inconveniences to our selves yet our happinesse is that the Lord hath crowned our endeavours with the end of our desires in some respect but notwithstanding to our amazement the endeavours of some pretended friends were not wanting utterly to deprive us of the fruit of our hard labours and dangerous service which enterprizes striking at the temporall foundations of our well-being brought us very neare even to destruction it selfe And sith it hath pleased God to stirre up the Army more immediately under your Excellencies command to withstand the Contrivers of this stratagem We could do no lesse but manifest our affectionate approbation of their actions and our earnest desires to partake with them in any condition whatsoever which are expressed in the Declaration Petition and Representations which wee lately presented to your Excellency But since our first endeavours to associate our selves with the Army more immediately under your Excellencies Command out of the apprehension we had of the equity of their proceedings we found very many unwilling persons both to our and the Kingdomes welfare which have done as much as in them lies to obstruct our proceedings And for this their aversnesse to us they have pretended the authority of Colonell-Generall Poyntz which we examining found to be too true insomuch as we have received divers Letters sent to particular Officers manifesting not onely the aversnesse of his spirit to whatsoever might conduce to the advancement of the publike good but also the violence that he intended to offer to any such persons as should close or comply with that Army more immediatly under your Excellencies Command in their just undertakings Insomuch that we having formerly had sufficient testimonies of his violent intreating of some even to the death without a legall triall although it should be granted that their fact were hainous we could not expect but receive hard measure from such a one whose will was his reason and his reason not his will he being in a capacity of acting dangerous things and not wanting a will thereunto as your Excellency may please to take notice by the copie of his Letters our case being such as that our happinesse consists in being under such command as doe highly prize our welfare for the future But least wee should passe by such persons whose perfidiousnesse hath been a great cause of his acting we shall humbly remonstrate to your Excellency that although in our apprehensions the carrying on of the businesse by him will import no lesse then that he did endeavour as much as in him lay to re-imbroyle us in a second warre and that not against our foes but against those who were our fellow-servants for the publike good viz. the Army in the South Yet notwithstanding it is so plainely evident unto us that there is a sort of men who seemingly lie under a prodigious Lethargie and would gladly render themselves to the apprehensions of godly men as if they were unacquainted with the businesse and frame that as an excuse for their non-concurrency with us when it is too apparent for their credit that they with him have countenanced and kept correspondency with the Members accused by your Excellency and not onely so but have made use of his power for the accomplishment of their illegall designs But the just God will not suffer unjust men to goe unpunished Out of the apprehension of these things we could doe no lesse but fore-see the eminent danger that was like to befall both our selves and the Nation with us and what a great obstruction there might by this meanes bee put to the present hopefull proceedings We therefore considering what dangerous consequent effects were like to follow if such as these men were suffered to reside amongst us and that the meanest creature endeavours to use all means even by nature to preserve it selfe and knowing our late obligement not onely to endeavour to protect but also to act against such persons we sent a party of Horse upon Wednesday at night being the seventh of this instant moneth to apprehend Colonell-Generall Poyntz which they accordingly did and in the mannaging of the same were as free from offering any violent and uncivill action as it was possible for men in that cafe to be He being apprehended was brought to Pontefract and is now sent to be tried by a Councell of Warre of the Army more immediately under your Excellencies command which wee humbly desire may be accomplished he having deserved the same for injury done both to Souldiery and Kingdome as more plainely by the Charge doth appeare And we shall humbly desire your Excellency that such course may be taken for a Commander in chiefe and Officers of integrity to bee intrusted with these Northerne Forces as may abhorre all corruption in their places of trust and as doe disdaine to go so far beneath the spirits of upright men as to stoop to compliancie with any unjust thing for sinister respects sake These things being accomplished we then hope sweetly to sit down under and fully to be possessed of that peace and future happinesse which is the very price of our blood and we shall willingly betake our selves to such imployment as shall conduce to Gods glory and the Kingdomes service Thus have we humbly remonstrated to your Excellency our present condition To whom shall we appeale next to divine Providence for a redresse of our grievances if not to your Excellency of whose faithfulnesse we have had sufficient testimony and whom we have followed to look death cheerfully in the face for our Countreyes freedome in former services and we hope shall not now be left destitute of your helpe which if we shall obtaine to be added to the rest of former favours we shall then rejoyce and quietly repose our selves to all such warrantable undertakings as shall befit men who have been so concerned in publike Affaires and we hope shall leave our freedome as an inheritance to succeeding ages and our selves in the interim to be commanded by your Excellency or whom els you shall think fit for the service and safety of King Parliament and Kingdome Colonell Poyntz's Regiment Iohn Bradley William Smith Colonell Bethells Regiment Thomas Cambridge William Tomson Colonell Brights Regiment Iohn Drake Fr. Marke Colonell Overtons Regiment Iohn Benington Robert Morris Colonell Copleys Regiment Iohn Hodgson William Baytes Colonell Ponsonby's Regiment Thomas Wharton Thomas Hunter Col. Collingworth's Regiment Robert Sharbye Thomas Shalloket