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B20672 Truths testimony and a testimony of truths appearing in power, life, light & glory, creating, manifesting, increasing, and vindicating itself in the midst of persecution : wherein is discovered what truth is, and also a lye, who knows it and lives in it : with the authors call and conversion to the truth, his practice in it, his publishing of it, and his several tryals for the same ... : together with the particular accusations brought against him in each tryal and his answers to the same, and also the courts proceedings both by judges and juries : with an humble appeal to His Highness, Oliver, Lord Protector, as a general redress for all people / by Richard Coppin. Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659. 1655 (1655) Wing C6105 74,193 93

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the Virgin Mary and crucified at Jerusalem though he be not yet so fully manifested to and in all men Rom. 8.29 as he was to and in him he being the first born among many brethren or the first appearance of humane nature in whom God did so fully and manifestly appear to be living moving acting and bringing forth himself in the manifestation of his love in power life light and glory yet that God is in all and all are in him as also saith the Scripture for in him we all live move Acts 17.28 Ephes 4.6 and have our being and there is one God and Father of all who is above all through all and in all both in Jews Gentiles Heathens Pagans Turks Infidels or whatsoever else they may be called and there is no difference or respect of persons with God but in the manifestation of this to themselves which none can have till the Holy Ghost even the Spirit of truth comes upon them as it did on him and reveal it to them as it did to him which he hath promised that in due time shal come and bring all things to their remembrance there is no man but hath God in him yea the same God that Christ had though not the same measure of knowledge and understanding till Christ in them hath revealed it And that the Gentiles might come to know this Paul prays for them that they might be strengthned with all might in the inner man that is with all God to comprehend with all Saints what is the bredth Eph. 3.16 17 18 19. and length and depth and heighth and to know the love of Christ which passeth knowledge that they might be filled with all the fulness of God even as Christ was to have in them the same mind the same love life and light and so be filled with the same fulness of grace and glory whereby they come unto a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ to know that as he was so are we in this world and therefore it is no blasphemy to say that God may be as much in them as in Christ considered as a man though it do not yet appear so to them Eph. 4.13 1 Ioh 4.17 as in due time it may and will when God shall be more revealed to them and they more enjoy him in the manifestation Fifthly That the day of judgement was began sixteen hundred years ago Answ My Lord according to Scripture acceptation it was so Iohn 12.13 for said Christ Now is the Iudgement of this world now shall the Prince of this world be cast out Iohn 9 39. and for Iudgement am I come into this world said Christ that they which see not might see and that they which see might be made blind and this coming of Christ to Judgement according to the Scripture was above sixteen hundred years past and yet is continued to this day though most men are blind and yet see it not which some shall so long as they have eyes of their own to see and ears of their own to hear till they see with the Lords eye and hear with the Lords ear and the Apostle also said that the time was then come 1 Pet. 4.17 that Iudgement must begin at the House of God even with righteous men or men under any form of Religion that had any thing of their own righteousness to trust in besides Christ their righteousness That this day of Judgement did then begin we find for so soon as he was but ascended and had led captivity captive he sent the holy Ghost the Comforter Ioh. 16.7.8 even the spirit of truth which should convince the world of sin of righteousness and of judgement and so bring all things to mans remembrance destroying all that is a lye in man by the spirit of Judgement and of burning when he shall appear to sit in man his Temple as a refiner and purifyer of gold and silver Mal 3.3 to purge out all dross sin and corruption and to make man a vessel holding nothing but righteousness peace and joy which work of Judgement was then begun with some coming on to others and is not ended to this day with all neither will so long as sin is in the world raigning in any creature and till we see sin and transgression finished in us as no more to be imputed to us 1 Cor. 15.24 c. we see not an end of the day of Judgement with us till we see Christ to have opened the prison doors broken all bonds put all enemies under his feet set us at liberty and delivered up the Kingdom to the Father that God may be all in all and so much for the day of Judgement that it was began sixteen hundred years ago according to the Scriptures Sixthly That there was no general day of Iudgement Answ My Lord I know no other day of Jodgement as to me then what I have already declared to your Lordship which is to be the same with every creature before it can be finished and this may be said to be A general day wherein all men are to appear before Christ to be Judged by him in love for the time is come c. And though this time of Judgement may be called a day yet this day may be thousands of years before all the world in every man may be Judged all sin and transgression finished as to them and they all set free in the Lord 2 Pet. 3.8 For one day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day and did men once taste and feel of the workings of God in and upon their souls in manifesting his love to them for the taking away of sin and transgression from them they would then be satisfied touching this day of the Lord which for my part I am already satisfied in and therefore cannot but declare it and bear witness to it as that which is truth to me and according to the Scriptures and they that know any other let them declare that as I have declared this Seventhly That there was no heaven but in man Answ My Lord Those words do not say there is none at all but that it is in man yet without confinement and this the Scripture also declares therefore if we would know where heaven is let us first know what it is and the Scripture tells us that the Kingdom of heaven is Righteousness Rom 14.17 peace and joy in the holy Ghost and that it is within us for when the Scribes and Pharises came to Christ to demand of him when the Kingdom of God should come as men still do he answered them that The Kingdom of God cometh not with observations neither shall they say lo here or lo there for behold the Kingdom of God is within you and where should the Kingdom of Christ which is a Kingdom of righteousness peace and joy appear to be
did again and again say that Christ suffered not for them as acted by him but as imputed to him and so they became his which he proved from these Scriptures He was made 〈◊〉 for us and The Lord hath laid upon him the iniquity of us all And Secondly That he should say There is no heaven and hell but what is in man He did not but did prove from Scripture that there was a heaven and a hell in man not denying any other which by others might be believed as to them And Thirdly That he should say That everlasting life should end in this life He did not but said That there was that written in Scripture which was said to be everlasting yet had an end as he proved from the ending of the first Covenant and Priest-hood under the Law with the conditions thereof which was said to be for ever And Fourthly as to his life and conversation it hath been so civil honest and respective towards all men for all that ever we saw or knew of him that none ever yet could accuse him and therefore we do believe that for the good that is in him and proceeds from him to the edifying of many people he is hated and persecuted To all which particulars we have here subscribed our names and shall be ready to take our Oaths A Copy of a Certificate presented to the Court by many of the godly and well-affected people of Oxford in the behalf of Richard Coppin WE the Inhabitants of the City of Oxford whose names are here underwritten do hereby certifie That Richard Coppin hath several times preached in Oxford and hath been heard by us who never heard any thing delivered by him to our knowledge but what hath been true and sound doctrine according to the Scripture and the manifestation of God to us And we do also certifie that his life and conversation hath ever been towards all sorts of men honest just and upright that ever we could see know or hear of him Concerning which we have here subscribed our names and shall be also ready to testifie upon Oath The first particular Charged in the Indictment FIrst That I should say That Christ Jesus the Son of God and Saviour of the world did suffer for his own sins as well as the Peoples Answ My Lord for answer to this I do affirm and ever did since I knew and declared any thing of God That Jesus Christ the Son of the living God and Saviour of the whole world as he lives in God never acted sin but imputatively all our sins became his were laid upon him John 3.17 1 John 2.2 Heb. 10.5 6.7 Rom. 8.3 Heb. 2.14 Luke 1.74 and reckoned to him by the Father and Jesus Christ as the Son in obedience to the Father freely took them upon himself clothed himself with our flesh sinful flesh and so suffered for sin overcame and condemned sin and all enemies in our nature wherein his appearance in us doth manifest to us that he satisfied the Fathers justice payed our score and set us at liberty though Christ himself which is Mat. 1.23 1 Pet. 2.22 2 Cor 5.21 Isa 53. Rom. 5.10 Iohn 14.19 Emmanuel God with us did no sin neither was guil found in his mouth as saith the Scripture yet he was made sin for us and The Lord hath laid upon him the iniquity of us all and by his stripes are we healed by his life are we saved and do live for saith Christ Because I live ye shall live also And now the head cannot be said to live without the body nor the body without the head 1 Cor 11.3 Ephes 5.23 29 30. Heb. 5.3 7.27 1 Cor. 12.12 13 27. so not Christ without us nor we without Christ he being our head and we members of his body of his flesh and of his bones and Christ suffering for the sin of us ●his members may also be said to suffer for the sin of his own body whose body we are for saith Paul Ye are the body of Christ and members in particular and in this sense he may be said to suffer for his own sins which is no blasphemy to say Secondly That there is no heaven and hell but what is in man Answ My Lord for answer to this I do affirm and ever did as aforesaid First That there is a God according to the Scriptures and that this God is the God of truth peace and love and the Father of it who is called a Spirit and whose throne is in heaven Isa 66.1 1 Tim 6.16 1 King 8.27 Jer. 23 23 24. Isa 6.3 and that dwelleth in light and which the heaven of heavens cannot contain and who is not limitted to any time place or person but heaven and earth is full of his glory And so much for God what and where he is Secondly That there is a Devil according to the Scripture and this Devil is the god of sin as of this world which darkens all appearances of good things 2 Cor. 4.4 Rev. 20.1 2 3. whose habitation is in hell and who is limitted to time place and person and cannot go beyond his bounds and is the Prince of darkness and of death the power of the ayr Ephes 2.20 John 8.44 Rev. 21.8 and 12.10 John 5.45 Iude ver 9. the spirit ruling in the children of disobedience which makes them so long to continue the children of the Devil who is a lyar and the father of them and all lyes and lyars are of and in him who shall together with him suffer in hell fire and who is also the accuser of the brethren from whom all accusations proceed with all hatred envy and malice and hath no part in Christ and that this Devil Iam. 3.14 15 Iohn 14.36 1 Pet. 5.8 Gen. 3.15 Psal 110.5 6 as a roaring lyon goes about from City to City from County to County or from Worcester to Oxford seeking whom he may devour till the Lyon of the Tribe of Judah meets with him breaks his head destroys his power frustrates his design and so ruines his Kingdom And Thirdly That there is also a heaven for the righteous in Christ to be saved and made happy in life and salvation with Christ in God and there is a hell also for the wicked in which they are and shall be tormented with the Devil and false Prophets but for the place what and where it is so far as the Scripture is silent in it we are to be silent in it and cannot determine of it any further then the Scripture doth But this we may say with the Scripture first concerning heaven that the Kingdom of God is righteousness peace and joy in the holy Ghost and Behold the Kingdom of God is within you yet on high with God Rom 14.1 Luke 17.20 21. above the earth or any creature And as concerning hell it is in Scripture compared to a grave and we read that Christ descended into it and David saith to
one another as a sure testimony of their love to God for the which I have been hated and persecuted by some men of all opinions and religions whatsoever in the world whether Papists Prelates Presbyterians Independents Anabaptists Ranters Quakers and whatsoever opinion else below the truth though I love them all and am with them all and they all with me but a cloud is over them that they see me not neither know me that is they see not my life being not yet reconciled to it yet when this cloud shall be taken away from all and the Sun of Righteousness risen in all Matth 23. ● then shall they see both me and one another and have joy in each other and be at peace with all men as being all brethren of one family sons of one Father heirs of one Kingdom and so see themselves and all men dwelling together in one City or heaven God And this is pure Religion the new Jerusalem the Kingdom of the Lord and end of their journey where the wolf shall dwell with the lamb that is the wicked with the godly or men of all opinions meet and agree in one union and fellowship in the Lord Jesus And where the leopard shall lie down with the kid and the calf and the young lyon and the fatlings together and a little child to wit Christ shall lead them and the cow and the bear shall feed or all men who have been of different judgements shall be of one mind in the Lord their young ones shall lye down together all men shall bring forth their seed unto God and the lyon shall eat straw like the ox or God will tame the wildest of creatures the persecutingst and most devouringst of men or of things in men that all shall be alike in knowledge and the sucking childe shall play on the hole of the asp Isa 11. and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice den or he that is sucking at the breast and he that is weaned from the breast of his own Religion and shall not one envy another for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea that is God will so manifest himself that all men and creatures shall be in union together love one another and do unto others as they would others should do unto them this is the Law and the Prophets and this is the Kingdom of the Lord and high calling of God which all men are to press after and not to rest till they are come in to it and is no more nor no less then what I have always declared as that which I received of the Lord yet not that I Richard Coppin as a creature could at any time give to another what I my self have received or teach another what I am taught or do for another what the Lord hath done for me in that case but I onely declare what I have received of the Lord and am taught by the Lord and what the Lord may do for others when the time appointed of the Father shall come for he that gives to me as a creature must give to them as creatures Isa 2 22. and he that taught me must teach them if ever they be taught the truth therefore cease from man whose breath is in h● nostrils 1 John 2. for wherein is he to be accounted of and eye him the Lord Jesus or that anointing within you who is the salvation of all men and whom you are to hear in all things for all others besides him that go forth as Teachers of the people are but false Teachers and Seducers according to the Scripture but the Lord alone or this anointing in us is our onely Teacher and men in speaking one to another can do no more as they are men but tell one another what the Lord hath done for them as the Prophet David saith Come hear and I will tell thee what the Lord hath done for my soul and what we have seen and heard we declare unto you saith Paul which declarations of men may conform each other in something which they before have had some little experience of in themselves the Lord working with it though they did not so know it as to utter it which when it is declared to them they may then set their seals to it as truth to them there being in them the same spirit witnessing to the same things which makes them believe it For he that believes hath the witness in himself but if there be not the same spirit witnessing in him that hears as is in him that speaks they cannot believe or set seal to the truth of what is spoken any further then it agrees with their own spirits or opinions but will rather persecute it to the death and also them that shall declare it as they have done to Christ the Apostles and others since that from thence and from ●uch arises all persecutions And so having brought you thus far to shew unto you my proceedings hitherto both of my life and doctrine delivered to the world I shall go on and therein set before you a larger path of my persecution and tryals both at Worcester Oxford and at Glocester as of things considerable from the first beginning to the end as a further testimony to the truth And first of my tryal at Worcester and the proceedings thereunto CHAP. VI. The Ministers malicious proceedings against the Author in Worcestershire to bring him to a tryal His examination before several Justices and Ministers and his being bound over to Worcester Assizes how and for what THe first proceedings of the Ministers against me to bring me to a tryal at Worcester was from my preaching at Emload in Worcestershire where I was desired by some of the Eminentest men of that Parish to come and there to preach where I continued for the space of four days declaring the things which I had seen and heard of the Lord both in publique and private with the desire of the people and the consent of the said Minister of that place But the said Minister finding the people so much adhering to what I delivered and believing in it more then in what he himself usually delivered amongst them he began to be wrath and was troubled and fearing that he should lose his flock or at least the benefit he received of them he sent and caused a dispute or at least a vain jangling to be between some certain Ministers of that Countrey and my self while I was there some of whose names are as follows Eason of Batsford Collier of Blackly Nevil and others as Ministers to the people in their several Parishes but no grace could they minister to the hearers and therefore cannot be said in truth to be Ministers of Christ but of Antichrist as appeared by what they declared to the people as also by their practise for they endeavoured to prove the Law under that administration of Moses to be