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A04779 The right and iurisdiction of the prelate, and the prince. Or, A treatise of ecclesiasticall, and regall authoritie. Compyled by I.E. student in diuinitie for the ful instruction and appeaceme[n]t of the consciences of English Catholikes, co[n]cerning the late oath of pretended allegeance. Togeather with a cleare & ample declaratio[n], of euery clause thereof, newlie reuewed and augmented by the authoure Kellison, Matthew. 1621 (1621) STC 14911; ESTC S107942 213,012 425

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sacramento_n regi_fw-la childerico_n dicto_fw-la soluit_fw-la he_o free_v the_o french_a from_o their_o oath_n make_v to_o king_n childeric_n 5._o leo_n the_o three_o pope_n a_o holy_a prelate_n to_o who_o god_n miraculous_o restore_v both_o his_o eye_n and_o tongue_n of_o
must_v be_v skilful_a in_o that_o art_n or_o science_n which_o trithemius_n himself_o know_v and_o therefore_o leave_v this_o question_n undiscuss_v second_o i_o answer_v that_o trithemius_n speak_v of_o henry_n the_o four_o emperor_n who_o though_o he_o have_v commit_v many_o insolence_n against_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n and_o have_v set_v up_o a_o antipope_n &c._n &c._n which_o his_o enormity_n trithemius_n call_v scelera_fw-la inaudita_fw-la yet_o he_o profess_v himself_o a_o catholic_a and_o so_o the_o school_n divine_n to_o wit_n ocham_n almainus_n and_o such_o other_o as_o i_o have_v relate_v for_o other_o widdrington_n can_v not_o allege_v dispute_v whether_o he_o can_v be_v depose_v he_o be_v or_o pretend_v to_o be_v no_o heretic_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o epistle_n to_o gregor●e_v the_o seven_o allege_v above_o allege_v and_o what_o they_o resolve_v we_o have_v see_v 14._o gallicana_n widdr._n in_o his_o newyearesgift_n pag._n 46._o disput_fw-la theol._n c._n 3._o sec_fw-la 3._o num_fw-la 13._o petrus_n pithaeus_n god_n libert_n ecc._n gallicana_n petrus_n pithaeus_n say_v widdrington_n a_o man_n as_o possevin_n say_v trnlie_o learn_v and_o a_o diligent_a searcher_n of_o antiquity_n affirm_v that_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n of_o france_n be_v ground_v in_o this_o principle_n which_o france_n have_v ever_o hold_v for_o certain_a that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o power_n to_o deprive_v the_o french_a king_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o in_o any_o other_o manner_n to_o dispose_v thereof_o and_o that_o notwithstanding_o any_o whatsoever_o monition_n or_o monitory_n excommunication_n or_o interdict_v which_o by_o the_o pope_n can_v be_v make_v yet_o the_o subject_n be_v bind_v to_o yield_v obedience_n due_a to_o the_o king_n for_o temporalle_n neither_o therein_o can_v they_o be_v dispense_v or_o absolve_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o in_o his_o disput_n theological_a 13._o cap._n 3._o sec_fw-la 3._o num_fw-la 13._o he_o say_v that_o pithaeus_n 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the_o king_n of_o france_n both_o a_o general_a maxim_n in_o which_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n of_o f●aunce_n be_v ground_v and_o also_o a_o particular_a proposition_n deduce_v out_o of_o a_o general_a maxim_n which_o he_o name_v not_o which_o two_o thing_n how_o they_o cohere_v let_v widdrington_n look_v and_o certes_o i_o can_v not_o imagine_v any_o maxim_n receive_v in_o france_n out_o of_o which_o either_o widdrington_n or_o pithaeus_n can_v deduce_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v in_o no_o case_n deprive_v the_o king_n and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o maxim_n receive_v in_o france_n that_o learned_a prelate_n cardinal_n perone_n in_o his_o eloquent_a oration_n make_v in_o the_o chamber_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n not_o only_o in_o his_o own_o name_n but_o also_o in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o the_o nobility_n and_o clergy_n of_o france_n will_v never_o have_v dare_v before_o such_o curious_a auditor_n to_o utter_v these_o word_n follow_v now_o if_o those_o who_o have_v 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cardinal_n pelue_v and_o other_o prelate_n who_o in_o a_o assembly_n at_o paris_n 1595._o reject_a the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_v 25._o cap._n 19_o by_o which_o it_o be_v forbid_v king_n to_o permit_v duelle_n under_o pain_n of_o lose_v the_o city_n or_o place_n in_o which_o they_o permit_v a_o duelle_fw-fr concilium_fw-la tridentiwm_fw-la inquiunt_fw-la excommunicate_a &_o private_a regem_fw-la civitate_fw-la illâ_fw-la vel_fw-la loco_fw-la in_o quo_fw-la permittit_fw-la fieri_fw-la duellum_fw-la hic_fw-la articulus_fw-la est_fw-la contra_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la regis_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la privari_fw-la svo_fw-la dominio_fw-la temporali_fw-la respectu_fw-la cvius_fw-la nullum_fw-la superiorem_fw-la recognoscit_fw-la the_o council_n of_o trent_n say_v they_o excommunicate_v and_o deprive_v a_o king_n of_o that_o city_n or_o place_n in_o which_o he_o permit_v a_o duelle_fw-fr to_o be_v make_v this_o article_n be_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o king_n who_o can_v not_o be_v deprive_v of_o his_o temporal_a dominion_n in_o respect_n of_o which_o he_o acknowledge_v no_o superior_a i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o cardinal_n pelue_fw-mi and_o those_o prelate_n will_v thus_o reject_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n or_o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o deprive_v the_o king_n and_o lest_o i_o may_v seem_v to_o do_v injury_n to_o bochellus_n in_v not_o credit_v he_o i_o shall_v give_v reason_n for_o it_o 111._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 111._o for_o first_o as_o schulkennius_n show_v he_o thrust_n into_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n of_o france_n and_o recken_v amongst_o her_o liberty_n many_o scandalous_a thing_n and_o to_o omit_v many_o of_o they_o which_o schulkennius_n note_v i_o will_v note_v only_o two_o or_o three_o of_o his_o absurdity_n which_o i_o have_v see_v in_o his_o book_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n he_o show_v himself_o no_o good_a catholic_a in_o carp_n uniustelie_o and_o saucy_o