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A79771	A true copy of the humble desires of the Commissioners of the General Assembly March 22. Presented by them to the Parliament of Scotland with their ansvver March 27. 1648. Together with a humble representation of the sense of the Commissioners of the General Assembly to the honorable Estates of Parliament upon their Lorships [sic] answer, March 29. As also the last answer of the Assembly to the Parliaments paper, March 31. 1648.; Eight propositions of the desires of the Commissioners of the General Assembly of Scotland, to the Parliament.	Church of Scotland. General Assembly. Commission.; Scotland. Parliament.	1648 (1648)	Wing C4271D; Thomason E435_21; ESTC R35593	5,946	12

been and they trust ever shall be the principal end of all the undertakings of this Kingdom so they will be carefull that the present Question to be stated shall contain security and assurance to be had from His Majesty by his solemn oath under his hand and seal that he shall for himself and for his Successors give his Royal Consent to pass Acts of Parliament injoyning the League and Covenant establishing Presbyterial Government the Directory of Worship and Confession of Faith in all His Majesties Dominions and that His Majesty shal never make opposition to any of these nor endeavour any change thereof And as to that Clause viz. That this security be had from His Majesty before his Restitution to the exercise of his Royal Power The Estates of Parliament remits this to these on the Conference and who shall be appointed for drawing up the state of the Question to find out some more smooth expressions in place thereof with the like security to Religion VII Item To the seventh desire That they will be careful that none shall be employed in the command of their Armies nor in their Committees but such as are of known integrity and affection to the cause and against whom there is no just cause of exception VIII Item To the eighth Article or desire The Estates of Parliament declare That to the grounds of their Engagement and undertaking an oath shall be subjoyned wherein both in the framing of it and other wise the Church shall have their due interest And the Estates of Parliament desire the Commissioners of the Church to appoint some of their number to meet with such of that Committee of Parliament of 24. as shall be appointed by the same Committee for the conference and stating of the Question for agreeing upon the grounds of an Engagement and drawing up such a state of a Question as may unite this Nation in an unanimous undertaking of such duties as are requsite for the Reformation and defence of Religion the safety honor and happiness of the King and his Posterity and the good of this Kingdom Extract Sic Subscribitur Alexander Gibson Cl. Reg. Edinb 29 Martii 1648. An humble Representation of the sense of the Commissioners of the General Assembly To the honourable Estates of Parliament upon their Lordships Answer to the Eight Desires lately presented to their Lordships HAving received yesterday the Answer of the honourable Estates of Parliament to our late Desires presented to their Lordships upon the 22 of this instant we did immediately take to our consideration the particular Answers given thereunto And now without any longer delay do humbly represent to their Honors our sense of the particulars 1. As to the Answer of the first Desire we conceive that notwithstanding any thing expressed in your Lordships Answer there may be an acting in reference to a War before the lawfulnesse of the War and the state of the Question be agreed upon which is the very thing we did desire to be avoided 2. In the Answer to our second Desire we neither finde any breaches of Peace between the Kingdoms which may be a ground of War condescended upon nor any positive resolution of the Parliament to seek reparation thereof according to the Treaties yet both these were desired by us 3. In the Answer to the third Desire in stead of that clause of the Desire The Presbyterian party in England who continue firm in adhering to the League and Covenant we finde this change of expression in the Answer The Presbyterians and well-affected in England which as the words stand may intimate and suppose that there are some well-affected in England which are not of the Presbyterian party nor do adhere to the League and Covenant 4. Our fourth Desire for not joyning or associating with the Popish Prelatical or Malignant party if they shall again rise in Arms and that it may be endeavoured to suppresse them as enemies to the Cause and Covenant on the one hand as well as Sectaries on the other being so just in it self so consonant to the former principles and professions of this Kirk and Kingdom since their first engagement in this Cause and being also as clear both in the matter and expression as the Covenant Treaties and Declarations of both Kingdoms we cannot conceive wherein it needs explanation or what doubt or scruple can be made concerning it as it stands unlesse there be now some more favourable and friendly intentions towards the Malignant party then formerly which we pray the Lord to avert And although it is too manifest that some plead for Malignants as if they were to be joyned with as friends rather then avoided as enemies to the Cause whereof we have spoken more fully in our late Declaration yet we trust that any such designe is and shall be far from the thoughts and intentions of the honourable Court of Parliament 5. Touching the fifth as your Lordships Answer seems to suppose his Majesties late concessions concerning Religion not to be satisfactory so these concessions being so prejudicial to the Cause and Covenant we wish your Lordships had been pleased to declare against them both positively without any condition and presently without any delay 6. In the Answer to the sixth Desire as there is much said in the first part for security of Religion to be had from his Majesty so that clause viz. That this security be had from his Majestie before his restitution to the exercise of his Royal power not being agreed to by your Lordships but rather laid aside until some smoother expressions be found out we are left unsatisfied in that which is the main of that Desire and cannot be assured of any security expressed in the first part of your Lordships Answer If your Lordships had been pleased to condescend upon another expression containing as good and as real security for Religion we should have acquiesced therein without sticking upon words but there being no other expression yet condescended upon and that clause of ours without which the whole Desire is left uncertain laid aside for the present we cannot finde our selves therein satisfied as yet 7. The Answer to the seventh Desire concerning such as are to be trusted in Armies and Committees doth omit some of the qualifications expressed in our Desire viz. Such as have given constant proof of their integrity and faithfulnesse in this Cause and against whom there is no just cause of jealousie that so we may the more confidently encourage our flocks to follow the Cause of God in their hands and not to doubt of their fidelity which qualifications being contained in our Desires and omitted in your Lordships Answer we are not without fears that this omission may be made use of by some as if your Lordships had not meant to agree fully to that Desire and so take occasion to deal for employing and intrusting such in the Committees and Armies as may be justly excluded by the qualifications contained in our said Desire 8. In the Answer to the last Desire in stead of that clear expression used by us namely That the Kirk may have the same interest in any Oath for a new engagement which they had in the Solemn League and Covenant we finde this doubtful and uncertain expression That both in the framing of the Oath and otherwise the Kirk shall have their due interest Which difference of your Lordships expression from ours may also be interpreted by some as if the Kirk had assumed more interest in the League and Covenant then was due unto them Upon these and the like considerations we humbly conceive that our Desires unto which we still adhere as just and necessary are not satisfied by your Lordships Answer And without clear satisfaction in these Desires we finde it not safe to appoint a Conference for agreeing upon the state of a Question for War Yet if your Lordships had desired or do desire further conference with some of our number for satisfaction of our above-mentioned Desires we should have yeelded and yet shall willingly yeeld thereunto And as the present want of satisfaction in these Desires doth retard and hinder our proceedings towards an agreement upon the state of a Question so we are still confident that a real and clear satisfaction to the said Desires may be a happie and effectual means for facilitating the state of the Question and for uniting this Nation in an unanimous undertaking of such duties as are requisite for the reformation and defence of Religion the safety honour and happinesse of the King and his Posterity and the good peace and safety of the Kingdoms Subscr A. Ker. Edinb penult Martii 1648. The Answer to the Parliaments Paper THe Commissioners of the Assembly having this day received a Paper from the honourable Estates of Parliament desiring a Conference upon our late Desires and the Parliaments Answer given thereunto and also upon the state of the Question and whole matter Do humbly return this Answer That as we have been so we are still willing to appoint a Conference upon the Eight Desires lately presented to your Lordships and upon the unsatisfactorinesse of your Lordships Answer thereunto and if your Lordships shall yet be pleased to give real and clear satisfaction to our said Desires we shall immediately thereupon appoint some of our number to confer with a Committee of Parliament upon the state of the Question This insisting upon satisfaction to our Desires before we appoint a Conference upon the state of the Question doth not proceed from any peremptorinesse about words or things of small moment nor from any partiality or self-interest nor from any inclination to stretch our selves beyond our line nor from intention to obstruct any lawful endeavours either for preserving Monarchical Government in the Kings Majestie and his Posterity or for opposing and suppressing of Sectaries our record is in heaven we abhor and detest all such ways But our real purpose is to keep our selves so free that in an implicite way we consent not to nor concur in stating of a Question of War before we see the safety and security of Religion sufficiently provided for being tender of the great trust committed to us as the servants of Jesus Christ and officers of his Kingdom for preserving the precious jewel of Religion which ought to be as well to your Lordships as to us above all worldly interests Subscr A. Ker. FINIS

A TRUE COPY OF THE Humble Desires OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY March 22. Presented by them to the Parliament of Scotland With their ANSWER March 27. 1648. Together with a humble Representation of the sense of the Commissioners of the General Assembly to the honorable Estates of Parliament upon their Lorships Answer March 29. As also the last Answer of the Assembly to the Parliaments Paper March 31. 1648. London Printed for Robert Bostock and are to sold at his shop at the Kings head in Pauls Church-yard 1648. Edinb 22º Martii 1648. TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE THE Estates of Parliament THE HUMBLE DESIRES OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHereas we were desired to appoint a Conference with some of your Lordships which did go on towards an agreement til it was obstructed by a Vote of Parliament of the 16. of this Instant And having already shewn by your Papers of the 17. and 20. the reasons of our not proceeding in that Conference and that the cause was not in us We do now as the servants of Jesus Christ for our own exoneration for preventing of mistakes and for a clear understanding between your Lordships and us represent these our humble desires which we recommend to your Lordships serious thoughts First That the grounds and causes of undertaking a War may be cleared to be so just as that all who are well-affected may be satisfied in the lawfulness and necessity of the engagement and that nothing be acted in reference to a War before the lawfulness of the War and state of the question be agreed upon 2. That as the breaches of the Covenant by the prevalent party of Sectaries in England are evident so we desire and hope that according to the Treaties it may be condescended upon and declared by the Parliament what are those breaches of Peace which they take to be a ground of War and that reparation thereof may be sought 3. That there may be no such quarrel or ground of the War as may break the Union between the Kingdoms or may discourage or disoblige the Presbyterian party in England who continue firm in adhering to the League and Covenant 4. That if the Popish Prelatical or Malignant party shal again rise in Arms this Nation and their Armies may be so far from joyning or associating with them that on the contrary they may oppose them and endeavour to suppress them as enemies to the Cause and Covenant on the one hand as well as Sectaries on the other 5. Seeing your Lordships undertakings should be in the first place for Religion we desire that his Majesties late concessions and offers concerning Religion as they have been by the Church so may be by the Parliament declared unsatisfactory whereby your Lordships may give further evidence of the reallity of your intentions for the good and safety of Religion 6. That your Lordships may be pleased not to fix or settle upon any such state of a question as doth not contain security and assurance to be had from his Majesty by his solemn oath un●● his hand and seal That he shall for himself and his successors consent and agree to Acts of Parliament enjoyning the League and Covenant and fully establishing Presbyterian Government Directory of Worship and Confession of Faith in all his Majesties Dominions And that his Majesty shall never make any opposition to any of these or endeavor any change thereof and that this security be had from his Majesty before his restitution to the exercise of his royal power which desire we propone for no other end but because we cannot see how Religion which hath been and we trust shall be the principal end of all the undertakings of this Nation can be otherwise secured but that without this security it shall be left in very great hazard 7. That for the same end of securing Religion which is professed to be the principal cause of ingagement and for securing all the other ends of the Covenant such persons only may be intrusted by your Lordships to be of your Committees or Armies as have given constant proof of their integrity and faithfulness in this cause and against whom there is no just cause of exception or jealousie that so we may the more confidently encourage our flocks and Congregations to follow the cause of God in their hands and not to doubt of the fidelity of these who shall be intrusted by your Lordships 8. That there be no Engagement without a solemn Oath wherein the Kirk may have the same interest which they had in the solemn League and Covenant the cause being the same All which desires being duly pondered by your Lordships in an equal ballance will we trust be found just and necessary And we do not doubt but satisfaction from your Lordships therein may be a happy and effectual means for facilitating the state of the question and for uniting the Nation in an unanimous undertaking of such duties as are requisite for the reformation and defence of Religion the honor and happiness of the King the good peace and safety of the Kingdoms Edinb 27º March 1648. An Answer of Parliament to the desires of the Commissioners of the General Assembly represented by them to the Parliament I. THe Estates of Parliament now convened in this first Session of the second Triennial Parliament having considered the desires of the Commissioners of the General Assembly represented to them They after full debate and consideration concerning the same for Answer to the first desire c. Declares That the grounds and causes of undertaking of war shall be cleared to be so just as that all who are well-effected may be satisfied in the lawfulness and necessity of the Ingagement And declares that they will be very careful that nothing be acted in reference to a war during the conference and until the same be reported to the Parliament II. Item For Answer to the second desire The Estates of Parliament think it fit That the breaches of the Covenant and Treaties be represented and the seeking of reparation and the best time and manner thereof considered and appoint the Committee of 24 or such of their number as they shall appoint to do the same III. Item For Answer to the third desire declares that this Kingdom will be so far from making war against the Kingdom of England That any engagement they shall enter into shall be for strengthening the union between the Kingdoms and for encouraging the Presbyterians and well-affected in England IV. Item To the fourth desire The Estates of Parliament agree to the substance and matter of the fourth desire and remit to these who are to be upon the Conference for stating the Question to explain the same V. Item To the fift desire declares That upon the agreement on the whole matter and state of the question they wil declare his Majesties Concessions concerning Religion not to be satisfactory VI. Item To the sixth desire declares That since Religion hath