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A96468 Truth further defended, and William Penn vindicated; being a rejoynder to a book entitutled, A brief and modest reply, to Mr. Penn's tedious, scurrilous, and unchristian defence, against the bishop of Cork. Wherein that author's unfainess is detected, his arguments and objections are answered. / By T.W. and N.H. Wight, Thomas, ca. 1640-1724. 1700 (1700) Wing W2108; ESTC R204122 88,609 189

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of it at all Then as to Paul he comes 1 Cor. 11. and gives the Corinthians a rehearsal thereof upon their great abuse of that practice in such words as do not import a command but as often as they used it they shewed forth the Lords Death till he came his words cannot be called a command But supposing not allowing they could yet the Bp. must still be at a loss to find the command for the Supper four times repeated in these words Do this in remembrance of me Because we do not find them but three times expressly mentioned in all the Scriptures and but one of those times can reasonably be called a command at all if so it was not repeated at all nor will the Bp's Argument that the command was four times repeated hold good unless he prove it five times mentioned and so we leave it upon the Bp. and proceed Ibid. 18. Says the Bp. of W. P. he proceeds to what is more dangerous meaning then the prevarication plainly to diffuse his Poison this coming of Christ was Spiritual Answ We must needs say 't is a very uncharitable expression without cause and if it were such Poisonous Doctrine why did not the Bp. confute the substantial Scripture Arguments by which W. P. proved his Assertion which he ought to have done before he used such an expression But that the Bp. has not done unless carping at words and reviling him be doing it as will appear in what follows And first he begins with reproaching W. P. for paraphrasing upon these Texts Matt. 26. 29. Mark 14. 25. Luke 22. 18. where Christ told his Disciples He would drink no more of the fruit of the Vine till he drank it new with them in the Kingdom of Heaven upon which W. P. paraphrased and called Christ bread and Wine from Heaven See his Defence p. 98. whereupon the Bp. reviles according to his usual way and tells him that he and his Brethren uses to make and wrest Scripture c. By Mr. P's favour says the Bp. the Scripture no where stileth Christ Wine from Heaven Answ If we had dealt thus with the Bp. for downright perversions and wresting Scripture as we have before proved as he hath done W. P. without reason or ground we must tell the Bp. we should have treated him at another rate then we have done But to the matter Where did W. P. say the Scripture so said he only drew a natural consequence from the words of Christ and the Text it self is so plain that it needs no comment to prove W. P's paraphrase thereon for what drink or Wine was that which was to be drank in the Kingdom of Heaven but Wine from Heaven and who was Wine from Heaven but Christ who as he promised to drink with them so he promised Revelations 3. 20. to Sup with those that opened their hearts unto him Now who but a Man that wanted matter and was willing to take occasion to revile would Carp c. as the Bp. did more especially while Christ is called a Vine Bread from Heaven Water c. with a multitude of other Metaphorical Appellations in Scripture and had the Bp. been so well acquainted with the comfortable presence of Christ as a truly Spiritual Man which he pretends to be Really is c. he would never have reviled W. P. as he did on that account P. 19. The Bp. goes on telling us the Apostles continued the use of Bread and Wine after Christ was Spiritually come therefore says he this shewing forth his Death till he came was not by them understood of his inward and Spiritual appearance but of his second coming to Judgment for in that Case feeling so fully his being come in their hearts they would have desisted Answ Altho' the Apostles did feel Christ Spiritually come into their hearts and might also see no real Necessity for keeping up this practice yet it doth not therefore follow they would have presently desisted for these or the Like Reasons 1st Because they might think it needful to indulge the weak and carnal minded Christians among them who wanted such a sign to keep up their minds in remembrance of Christs Blood which was shed for them and that such weak and carnal believers were among them appears plainly by the sharp and reprehensive expressions in the Epistles writ by the Apostles to some of them likewise it plainly appears by Scripture that altho Christ was come in Spirit to some he was not so come in Spirit to others who yet waited for his coming see James 5. 7 8. 1 Cor. 1. 7. Secondly this practice might be continued among them were it onely that we find it contributed to keep up a Brotherly Fellowship and Communion in the Infancy of the Church which appears from Acts 2. 46. and they continuing dayly with one accord in the Temple and breaking Bread from House to House did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of Heart And here we may a little compare the present practice of those who use this Ceremony with those in the primitive times because the Bp. has something of it Their Breaking Bread was joyned with Eating their Meat quite contrary to the practice now adays and not only in that but other respects they disagree as W. P. hath noted Again how widely do they differ in their opinions of the thing it self 't is now called and believed by the Papists to be the very Body and Blood of Christ and the Protestants in the use of outward Bread and Wine say that the Body and Blood of Christ is in a Spiritual manner partaken of under that sign whereas in the primitive times the use and extent thereof as Paul tells us 1 Cor. 11. was in remembrance of and shewing forth Christs Death till he came which we believe was Spiritual in relation to that sign 3ly Why might not the Apostles as well continue in the practice of this sign after Christ was Spiritually come in their Hearts as in the practice of Circumcision Purifications Vows Shavings and other legal rites many Instances of which appear plain in Scripture which we might Instance but shall be brief and tell the Reader that what we have and shall write on this head is not intended for a Treatise thereof only as in Answer to the Bp's Objections referring the Reader as before to W. P's Defence and R. B's Apology who largely treats of this Subject The Bp. proceeds Ibid. 19. To invalidate W. P's allegation that Baptism and the Supper were not made an Article of any of the Antient Creeds and thereupon tells W. P. thus he has forgot or was never Catechized as he ought to have been or forgotten what he was taught to be the meaning of that Article I believe the holy Catholick Church the Communion of Saints that is in short says the Bp. I believe all the faithful are made one body by communion in the same Faith Covenant and Ordinances of Worship especially Baptism and the