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A43914 The history of the Association, containing all the debates, in the last House of Commons, at Westminster concerning an association, for the preservation of the king's person, and the security of the Protestant religion : the proceedings about an association in the reign of Queen Elizabeth, and a true copy of the Association, produced at the Earl of Shaftsbury's tryal, and said to be found in his lordships study, with some observations on the whole : to which is added by way of postscript reflections on the parallel between the late Association, and the Solemn League and Covenant. England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons. 1682 (1682) Wing H2144; ESTC R13449 34,008 34

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the same that Your Majesty will likewise be graciously pleased to Assent to an Act whereby Your Majesties Protestant Subjects may be enabled to Associate themselves for the defence of Your Majesties Person the Protestant Religion and the Security of your Kingdoms These Requests we are constrained humbly to make to Your Majesty as of absolute Necessary for the safe and peaceable Enjoyment of our Religion Without these things the Alliances of England will not be valuable nor the People Encouraged to contribute to your Majesties Service As some farther means for the Preservation both of our Religion and Propriety We are humble Suiters to your Majesty that from henc●forth such persons only may be Judges within the Kingdom of England and Dominion of Wales as are men of Ability Integrity and known affection to the Protestant Religion And that they may hold both their Offices and Salleries Quam diu se bene gesterint That several Deputy-Lieutenants and Justices of the Peace fitly qualified for those Imployments having been of late displaced and others put in their room who are men of Arbitrary principles and Countenancers of Papists and Popery such only may bear the Office of a Lord-Lieutenant as are persons of Integrity and known Affection to the Protestant Religion That Deputy-Lieutenants and Justices of the Peace may be also so qualified and may be moreover men of ability of Estates and Interest in their Country That none may be employed as Military Officers in Your Majesties Fleet but men of known Experience Courage and Affection to the Protestant Religion These our humble Requests being Obtained We shall on our part be ready to Assist Your Majesty for the Preservation of Tangier and for putting Your Majesties Fleet into such a condition as it may preserve Your Majesties Soveraignty of the Seas and be for the Defence of the Nation If your Majesty hath or shall make any necessary Alliances for the Defence of Protestant Religion and Interest and Security of this Kingdom this house will be ready to Assist and Stand by Your Majesty in the support of the same After this our Humble Answer to Your Majesties Gracious Speech we hope no evil Instruments whatsoever shall be able to lessen Your Majesties Esteem of that Fidelity and Affection we bear to Your Majesties Service but that Your Majesty will alwayes retain in Your Royal Breast that favourable Opinion of us Your Loyal Commons that those other good Bills which we have now under Consideration c nducing to the Great Ends we have before mentioned as also all Laws for the benefit and comfort of your People which shall from time to time be tendred for your Majesties Royal Assent shall find acceptance with your Majesty E. V. Mr. Speaker Sir I have hearkened with all the attention I could to this Address and do agree with the first part of it The Dangers and Inconveniences arising from a Popish Successor are very obvious and that there will be no Peace nor Tranquility in this Nation for the present as long as there is a Popish Successor and that our Religion will be lost if there should be a Popish King I am afraid is too true But yet I must crave leave to dissent from the opinion of those worthy Members that have drawn it as to the other parts thereof I think it is not convenient at this time to press so hard for the Exclusion Bill because we know we cannot have it without a Prorogative which for my part I fear at this time as much as I do a Popish Successour For I do believe if it should happen that you will sooner see the Duke at White-hall than this Assembly meet together again between these Walls And therefore am not willing to give the Popish party such an advantage to procure our Dissolution lest they should lay hold of it as I believe they would by which the Protestant Interest both abroad and at home will be ruin'd And As I cannot agree in this so neither in pressing the Association Bill For being it hath not yet been brought into the House we do not well known what will be the purport of it And it is not proper that we should ask of the King we know not what nor expect that he should grant us what he can know nothing of And truly Sir I think that these things about the Judges Deputy-Lieutenants and Justices of the Peace are minute things to be insisted on at this time compared with others which might be demanded Queen Elizabeths Councellors never thought her safe until the Popish Successor was inclosed in a Tower and I am afraid that you will never be safe until you take some such course that may bring things to an issue When you have done that and banished all the considerable Papists out of England I think we shall not be in so apparent danger as we now are And seeing this may probably be granted and the other Bills not I humbly move you to recommit the Address that it may be better considered I know not how this may agree with the sense of the House but I shall always crave leave to speak in this place according to my Conscience that so I may have peace within me but readily submit to better Judgments Sir W. J. Mr. Speaker Sir I am very glad that worthy member agrees in the apprehensions of the dangers arising from a Popish Successour and in the necessity of the Bill of Exclusion and am very sorry I cannot agree with him in the rest of his Discourse I cannot imagine without a high reflection upon his Majesty that if he should be perswaded to prorogue the House for two or three days in order to pass the Exclusion Bill that he should instead of permitting us to meet again dissolve the Parliament which is quite contrary to it I fear a Prorogation without being intended for this but if once we could prevail with his Majesty to do it for this end I shall not doubt the desired effect And in pressing the Association Bill we shall not press the King to grant us we know not what The word Association may very well be understood and the ends of it are declared to be for the security of his Majesties Person and the Protestant Religion And if when drawn it should be directed to other ends I suppose this House will take care to mend it if not the Kings promise can bind no farther than to pass a Bill for those ends But I do much admire to hear that the having of good Judges Justices and Commanders at Sea and Land is a trivial thing For I think that all other things you desire without it would signifie nothing As long as the Laws and Militia of the Nation is in the hands of persons not well-affected to the Protestant Interest I am afraid we shall have no security against Popery As to the new way that hath been proposed of bringing matters relating to the Popish Successour to such an issue as that
the House a great deal of time And for my part I am not for enumerating many Bills but should be content to give Money upon having the Exclusion Bill only which being so precisely necessary for the preservation of our Religion all the world will justifie us in the demanding it before we part with Money and therefore I desire the Committe may draw up the Address accordingly Resolved That a Committee be appointed to prepare an Humble Address to His Majesty upon the Debate of the House in answer to His Majesties Speech December 20. 1680. Mr. Hampden reports the Address which was read The Humble Address of the House of Commons presented to his Majesty in Answer to his Majesties Gracious Speech to both Houses of Parliament upon the 15th day of the same December May it please your most Excellent Majesty WE Your Majesties most Dutiful and Loyal Subjects the Commons in this present Parliament Assembled have taken into our serious Consideration Your Majesties Gracious Speech to both Your Houses of Parliament on the 15th of this Instant December and do with all the grateful Sense of Faithful Subjects and sincere Protestants acknowledg Your Majesties great goodness to us in renewing the assurances You have been pleased to give us of your readiness to concur with us in any m●●● for the security of the Protestant Religion and Your Gracious Invitation of us to make our desires known to your Majesty But with grief of Heart we cannot but observe that to these Princely Offers your Majesty has been advised by what secret Enemies to Your Majesty and Your People we know not to annex a Reservation which if insisted on in the instance to which alone it is applicable will tender all Your Majesties other Gracious Inclinations of no effect or advantage to us Your Majesty is pleased thus to limit Your promise of Concurrence in the Remedies which shll be proposed that they may consist with preserving the Succession of the Crown in it's due and legal course of Descent And we d● humbly inform four Majesty that no Interruption of that Descent has been endeavoured by us except only the Descent upon the Person of the Duke of York who by the wicked Instruments of the Church of Rome has been manifestly perverted to their Religion And we do humbly represent to Your Majesty as the Issue of our most deliberate Thoughts and Consultations that for the Papists to have their hopes continued that a Prince of that Religion shall succeed in the Throne of these Kingdoms is utterly inconsistent with the Safety of your Majesties Person the preservation of the Protestant Religion and the Prosperity Peace and Welfare of your Protestant Subjects That your Majesties Life is in continual danger under the prospict of a Popish Successor is evident not only from the Principles of those devoted to the Church of Rome which allow that an Heritical Prince and such they term all Protestant Princes Excommunicated and Deposed by the Pope may be destroyed and murthered but also from the Testimonies given in the prosecution of the horrid Popish Plot against divers Traitors attainted for designing to put those accursed Principles into practice against Your Majesty From the expectation of this Succession has the number of Pupists in your Majesties Dominions so much increased within these few years and so many been prevailed with to desert the true Protestant Religion that they might be prepared for the Favours of a Popish Prince assoon as he shall come to the possession of the Crown And while the same Expectation lasts many more will be in the same danger of being perverted This it is that has hardned the Papists of the Kingdom animated and confederated by their Priests and Jesuits to make a Common Purse provide Arms make application to Forreign Princes and sollicite their Aid for imposing Popery upon us and all this even during Your Majesties Reign and while Your Majesties Government and the Laws were our protection It is Your Majesties Glory and true Interest to be the Head and Protector of all Protestants as well abroad as at home But if these hopes remain what Alliances can be made for the advantage of the Protestant Religion and Interest which shall give confidence to Your Majesties Allies to joyn so vigorously with your Majesty as the State of that Interest in the World now requires whilst they see this Protestant Kingdom in so much danger of a Popish Successor by whom at the present all their Councils and Actions may be eluded as hitherto they have been and by whom if he should succeed they are sure to be destroyed We have thus humbly laid before your Majesty some of those great Dangers and Mischiefs which evidently accompany the expectation of a Popish successor The certain and unspeakable Evils which will come upon your Your Majesties Protestant Subjects and their Posterity if such a Prince should inherit are more also than we can well enumerate Our Religion which is now so dangerously shaken will then be totally overthrown nothing will be left or can be found to protect or defend it The execution of old Laws must cease and it will be vain to expect new ones The most sacred Obligations of Contracts and Promises if any should be given that shall be judged to be against the Interest of the Romish Religion will be violated as is undeniable not only from Argument and Experience elsewhere but from the sad Experience this Nation once had on the like occasion In the Reign of such a Prince the Pope will be acknowledged Supream though the Subjects of this Kingdom have sworn the contrary and all Causes either as Spiritual or in order to Spiritual Things will be brought under his Jurisdiction The Lives Liberties and Estates of all such Protestants as value their Souls and their Religion more than their secular Concernments will be adjudged forfeited To all this we might add That it appears in the discovery of the Plot that Forreign Princes were invited to assist in securing the Crown to the Duke of York with Arguments from his great Zeal to establish Popery and to extirpate Protestants whom they call Hereticks out of his Dominions and such will expect performance accordingly We further humbly beseech Your Majesty in Your great Wisdom to consider Whether in case the Imperial Crown of this Protestant Kingdom should descend to the Duke of York the opposition which may possibly be made to his possessing it may not onely endanger the farther descent in the Royal Line but even Monarchy it self For these Reasons we are most humble Petitioners to Your most Sacred Majesty That in tender commiseration of Your poor Protestant People your Majesty will be graciously pleased to depart from the Reseruation in your said Speech and when a Bill shall be tendred to Your Majesty in a Parliamentary way to dissable the Duke of York from inheriting the Crown Your Majesty will give your Royal Assent thereto and as necessary to fortifie and defend