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B13698 A dialogue or conference betweene Irenæus and Antimachus, about the rites and ceremonies of the Church of England: by Samuel Gardiner, Doctor of Diuinitie Gardiner, Samuel, b. 1563 or 4. 1605 (1605) STC 11575; ESTC S102819 49,951 71

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A DIALOGVE OR CONFERENCE BEtweene Irenaeus and Antimachus about the rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England By SAMVEL GARDINER Doctor of Diuinitie Psal 122. vers 6. O praye for the peace of Ierusalem they shall presper that loue thee AT LONDON Printed by Richard Braddock for Thomas Bushell and are to be sould at his house in the Petty Cannons 1605. TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE AND MOST REVEREND FATHER IN GOD RICHARD BY THE PROVIDENCE OF GOD LORD Archbishop of Canterburie Primate of all England and Metrapolitane ALBEIT the arke of Noah which is the Church of god be throughly pitched within without with the Doctrine of the trueth and good and wholesome discipline and therefore is safe enough against all the waues of wicked dooers and ouerflowings of vngodlinesse the Lorde of hoastes that is with vs and the God of Iacob that is our refuge sitting at the stearne and houlding it and pronouncing this blessing vpon it I will bee with you to the end of the worlde yet is it subiect to the rage of manie waters to sirtes sandes rockes Pyrates and to euill minded passengers that will rather hinder then helpe in a storme or daunger The last is not the least that this barke and pinnesse is to feare For as Epiphanius sayth Omnem inscensorem vehere potest nauis praeter fugitiuum this shippe may beare any passenger better then a fugitiue We diuide these into two flockes as Labans sheepe and goates were diuided into two companies whereof some were blacke other some party coloured Those of the blacke guarde are heretiques in doctrine those that are of sundrie colours and cannot agree among themselues what they woulde haue but builde with confusion of language with the builders of Babell Gen 11 Iudic 12 and with the Ephraimites cannot pronounce Shibboleth are those that in a singularitie of opinion make a defection whome Augustine noting with his inkehorne giueth them no milder name then Schismatiques August Schismaticus es sacrilega discessione haereticus sacrilego dogmate Thou art a schismatique saith he in thy sacrilegious separation and an heretique in thy sacrilegious doctrin August Augustine sampleth the first sorte to a lyon and the second to a Dragon saying Tunc leo fuit cùm apeitè saeuiebat modo draco cum occulte insidictur Then he is a Lyon when he openlie rageth and a Dragon when he priuilie lyeth in wayte Of this had woorthy Epiphanius respect when he suited euery singular heresie to a seuerall serpent A similitude that fell fitly into his purpose because no aspe viper or venemous creature scatter such filthy vomit against vs and fasten such venemous teethe vpon vs as schismatiques and heretiques With the insolent neighbourhood of these two as with the malignaunt aspecte of two vnluckie planets hath the Church beene miserably disquieted a long time The heretique like Iudas hath alwayes ledde a bande of souldiers after him and the schismatique hath neuer beene without his disciples and sectaries Of heretiques we haue had such swarmes at all times as if hell had emptied it selfe and cleane degorged her stomacke on the lappe of the Church the sun and the ayer that is the cleare sunne and light of the worde hath beene darkened by the smoake of the pit Reuel 9. The blame whereof is to bee giuen to the peruersenesse of mens minds that loue darkenesse rather then light and to grope with the Sodomites for a wall at noone daye who will bee blind with their eyes open and will not with Eli see the lampe of God burning in the Temple The number of these without number I shall not if I might goe about to compute and comprehende in this narrowe roome and compasse of an Epistle They most of them were occupied about the person of Christ casting their filthinesse against his holynesse either denying the eternall nature of the sonne of god or calling into question the trueth of his incarnation or else violating the vnitie of his person or else compounding and confounding the distinction of his natures In his diuinitie erred very rankelie these of auntienter tyme Noetus Praxeas Hermogenes Sabellius with whome wee consorte Berillus and Marcellus knowne by the title and name of Patripassiani or otherwise surnamed Vnionitae because they wold not acknowledge three persons but onely three voices in the mystery of the Trinitie Hereupon Arius Photinus Artemon affirmed that the sonne had a beginning and was not euerlasting Again Euomius and Aetius conceiued the sonne to bee vnlike his Father which stumbling blocke while Ebion Basilides Cerinthus Carpocrates Paulus Samosatenus are warie to auoyde they take a greate fall professing the Son of God to bee but a meere man Further Cerdon Martion Manicheus Valentinus imagined him to bee but a cypher fantasie or vaine imagination or to haue brought a body from heauen with him and as Apelles sayth compact and conglutinated of starres or a bodye without a soule as Apollonatius fantasyeth Which stinking dunghill of rotten heresies is stirred and digged vpp new by heretiques of this age especially that roguish opinion of Eutiches who giue to Christ a deified bodie Now the Nestorians treade as much awrie of the other side giuing two persons to our Sauioure Christ teaching that the worde is present with Christ by assistance Thus is Christs coate that was without seame miserablie mangled with their circuler questions Neyther hath the mysterie of iniquitie thus ceased but Sathan that cannot put off his nature by his emissaries and factiue instrumentes the Papistes the incendiaries of these dayes hath kindled hot coales of fire in the Church and hath powred such poyson into the bosome of it as it must be a greate deale of Triacle that must purge is But wee shoulde discharge our selues of that well enough if wee could be at amitie and vnitye with our selues and woulde fight with our ioynte forces againste Edom Babylon Ammon and Aram with Ioab and Abisai and not strike our selues with our owne quilles as the Baalites launced themselues with their owne kniues If our kingdome were as strong as the diuels diuision woulde soone vnioynte and dissolue it For if Sathan be diuided against Sathan how can his kingdome stand saith our Sauioure Christ But this is the carbuncle botch and byle of our ecclesiasticall bodie we dissolue the brotherhood between Iudah and Israell Zach 11.14 whereas frater is called quasi ferè alter we are brethren in euill diuided in Iacob and scattered in Israell Ecclesiae titulo armantur qui contra ecclesiam dimicant they are vnder the banner of the Church that fight against the Church It is Chrysostomes obseruation that there is ingendred in euery thing and proceedeth out of it that which in tyme if it be not looked too will consume the thing as out of wood commeth a worme out of a garmente a moathe out of a greene hearbe a canker by which the woodde is fretted the garmente is hindered the herbe perisheth This hath too liuelie