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A09876 A discourse, of the true and visible markes of the Catholique Churche vvritten by M. Theod. Beza. Vezelius; De veris et visibilibus Ecclesiae Catholicae notis. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; T. W. (Thomas Wilcox), 1549?-1608. 1582 (1582) STC 2014; ESTC S101560 55,907 134

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certaine perpetual order both of that sowing of the persons admitted to that sowing and that the same hath bene tied also at all times to the same lawes of ordination before that first the lord had consecrated to him selfe the first begotten Exod. 3.2 and 19 22. and the 24.5 in whose steed afterward that Leuiticall priesthood was ordained almost with infinit ceremonies Num. 8.18 Therfore then at the length began that certaine ordinary order of succession ordination that is of sowing and of those vnto whom the charge of that sowing was committed Which succession and which maner of ordayning if before that time the Church lacked it it is prooued that that ordinary succession and calling hath neither bin alwaies necessary nor continual séeing that the visible Churche stood so many ages before both of them Now let vs see whether the Leuiticall priesthood hath cōtinued without interruption euen vnto the cōming of Christ In deed we read that the spreding abraod of Aarons posterity cōtinued vntill the ouerthrow of the tēple But euen as we say thogh Dauids stocke were not abolished yet Dauids kingdome euen as amongst other the prophets Ezechiel had foretold was broken of frō the dayes of Sedichia vnto Zorobabel frō whose tims in steed of kings they were Dukes and at the lengthe the Asmoney taking all power vnto themselues Dauids posterity I say in stéede of Dukes became Senators vntill at last they being also taken away by Herod a forrainer borne and Iudea being reduced to a Prouince and so in fine as Iacob had foretold all gouernment being taken from Iudea that sonne of Dauid sprang vp Gen. 49.10 to sit in the throne of Dauid for euer So it appeareth that all the Leuiticall priesthoode was not at once broken off vntil the eternal priesthood of Melchizedech succeeding it was wholy abolished For to let passe those publique miseries and slaughters of the people vnder the iudges and especially that time which is spoken of in the fiue last chapters of the story of the Iudges in which time it is euident that the publike ministery was greatly decaied and sometimes almoste abolished who will deny that there was any true church in the kingdome of the ten tribes from the time of Ieroboam the first king vnto the ouerthrow of Samaria and yet that there was no succession nor ordination of Leuitical priesthood amongst them appeareth by this because it is writtē of Leui that he departed from the kingdome of the ten tribes and by that same most heauy complaynt of Helias which is reported by the Apostle Rom. 11.2 for concerning that which is reported afterwardes of these hundred prophetes hid in a caue 1. Kings 18.13 it doth not prooue that there was there any ordinarye ministery The aduersaries will reply that the godly Israelites went to Ierusalem and therefore that they perteined to the Leuiticall priesthoode Bee it so that some went yet there was some true Churche then in the kingdome of the ten tribes not going to the Citie neyther vsing the ordinarye sacrifices nor reteining anye vse of the Leuiticall priesthoode But agayne these men say they had notwithstanding colledges of prophets and assemblies of Godly men also at their appointed dayes as appeareth namely out of the 2. Kings 4.23 and therefore the ordinary succession of the ministery did not then cease And neyther doe I conclude out of this place that there was then no holy ministry in the kingdome of Israell But this one thing I gather that the succession of the Leuiticall ministry which was the onely ordinarye ministerye was then all togeather broken off in the kingdome of Israell For neither were the Prophetes ordained by the ministrye of men neither was their order continuall They will againe reply that an ordinary succession may cease in particular Churches but at no hand in the Catholique church that is to say vniuersally seeing that then also the temple continued in the kingdome of Iudah But beside that I can replie out of the testimonie of the Prophetes that Iudah so behaued hir selfe not onely in maners but also in the very worshippe of God that she iustified Israell hir selfe Ezech. 16.51 and that also the temple of the Lorde was shut vp vnder Manasses after that it had beene imbrued with the blood of the Prophetes and that horrible idolatry declared vnto Ezechiel in a vision beside these things I say I furthermore adde two other one is that if some particular Church may be a member of the catholique Church without the marke of succession and ordinary ordination it necessarily followeth that those notes are not that which the Logitians cal proper after the fourth sort that is to say a terme that alwayes agreeth vnto one kinde and to euery particular of the same kind whereof we now demaund and in deed doe iustly demand it séeing the whole force of the definition consisteth properly in the knowledge of the difference The other is that if which thing we haue shewed before some parte of the Catholique Churche may lacke that successien and ordinary ordination for a tyme it followeth that that thing maye fall out in all particular and seuerall Churches For why shoulde it fall out to one rather than to an other But where this thinge shall fall out in what generall thing I praye you maye a man finde that which he wanteth not in all and euerie singular parte of the same But least these men should agayn cry out that yet that thing hath not fallen which might haue fallen out Let vs proceede further and let vs consider what the state of the Cotholike Church was vnder the captiuitie of Babilon Verely these men shall neuer prooue that there was then any ordinary ministery of the Leuites For the fable of Susanna is confuted out of the true story of Daniel so that it must be a narration either fabulous or meerely allegoricall euen as also the booke of Iudith is And though Ezechiel sometimes in some place exercised the office of a Prophete as it is manifest by his Prophecies yet by that it shall at no hande bee proued that the Leuiticall Priesthoode was not discontinued But thou wilt say Circumcision then continued I graunt it for this was the singuler benefite of God euen as Satan could not in our time and in the time of our Fathers bring to passe but that the Sacrament of Baptisme shoulde remayne But the selfe same Circumcision was not vsed those forty yeeres being the time of their wandering in the wildernes where notwithstanding if the Catholike Church were not it was no where Seing therefore the Churche may for a time want some sacraments truely this part of the publique ministerye is not absolutely the perpetuall and necessary marke of the Churche which thing yet cannot be sayde of the seede of the word it selfe for the patent it selfe of a couenaunt is another thing than the seale put to the patent it selfe so that the church may for a time