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A00685	Ane answer to ane epistle written by Renat Benedict the Frenche doctor, profesor of Gods worde (as the translator of this epistle calleth him) to Iohn Knox, and the rest of his brethren ministers of the word of God: made by Dauid Feargussone minister of the same word at this present in Dumfermling.	Fergusson, David, d. 1598.; Benoit, René, 1521-1608.; Winzet, Ninian, 1518-1592.	1563 (1563)	STC 10819; ESTC S117552	36,974	88

a certane fall of the toun wall by which also Iohn the Duke of Bertanzie and diuers others were slaine In this tumult I say your holy father Clement lost a Carbunkle worth as sayeth the same Platyna sex thousand crounes Remember your self who are gatherers of riches Christ and his Apostles who had not so much as to rest their head vpō to pay their tribute nor gold nor siluer in possession we his ministers that suffereth affliction and penurie and whither this faute of couetousnes may iustly be ●…de to our charge or youres I bid you ●…ember your self againe yea and more ●…er I dar be bold to say that these same ●…o forenamed Popes had more riches 〈◊〉 all the Ministers of the Euangel in ●…tland and Ingland bothe are valze●… of in temporall gear at this houre ●…ither wes it Aristippus or Diogenes ●…t hunted for riches Diogenes that ●…d on erbes or Aristippus that wai●… on the Court of Dionisius So whi ●…r is it we Ministers of Gods worde ●…t liueth in penurie as I haue said ta●… vpon vs the indignation of Princes ●…ether with the hatrede of the People ●…speaking of the veritie ar nothīg els 〈◊〉 as shepe appointed to the slaughter ●…yring nothing for all these foresaides 〈◊〉 that we may be suffered to reteane the ●…w worshipping of our God and his ●…ist as we are taught in the Scriptu●… whither is it we or ye impudent and ●…meles shauillinges that hunteth for ●…hes we that speaketh the treuth frelie ●…ithout respect of persones or ye fals ●…tterers who for the mantenāce of your ●…lleis careth not to go to euerlasting dā nation It wes more lyke that baallcs chaplanis that eat at Iesabels table serued Mammō then Eliah ād the hundreth Prophets that for the tyrranny of this cruell Quene durst not walk abrode but were fed in caues by Obadiah Ahabes stewart vnder the ground But ye do well to charge vs with lies because ye haue nothing iustly to accuse vs of Ye ask of vs what we attempt to do we assure you by the grace of God to rute out supersticious and pestilent Papistrie and in place thereof to plant sincere and whol some veritie conteined in the booke of God Ye desyre vs to looke to our beginning God be preased we haue laide our compt long ago what this laubour wil cost vs or euer we begouth to put out handes to it nether commoned we with fleshe nor blood in this case Ye affirme that this is a great boldnes of vs to professe a new doctrine contrarie to antiqui tie cōsent and vniuersalitie of Religion hauing for vs nether Scriptures nor ancient Authors if this your affirmation were trew certanly our boldnes were to great It is an easie mater to you to speak so but ye will not find it so easy to proue It hath bene the wonted and ac●…stomed vse of Sathan from tyme to ●…me to sclander the treuth with noual●…e and deck falshead with antiquitie ●…nsuetude persuading men that the doc●…ine of Saluation is suche newfangled ●…tasie as neuer hath bene hard before ●…ny place Thus did the wise and cun●…ng Philosophers of Athenis call Pan●…s doctrine May we not knowe said ●…ey what this new doctrine is where●… thou speakest And certanly the rude ●…ultitude are easylie persuaded that it is 〈◊〉 for as sayeth Tertuliane Ueritas pe●…rina est in terris that is to say the veri●… is a stranger vpon the earth it is no ●…nder althogh a stranger be misknow 〈◊〉 so althogh the treuth appear vnto you 〈◊〉 be new doctrine that so lōg hath bene ●…ssaled vp in falshead I meruell not ●…ut I wolde ye knew that we teache no ●…her doctrine then is conteined in the ●…w the Psalmes the Prophets and the ●…uangel yea euen that same that S. ●…ohn testifieth to haue bene Ab initio ●…hat is from the beginning Moreouer ●…e offer vnto you with the aforesaid Ter ●…liane that the oldest religione whither oures or youres preuale Ye boste ●…uch of antiquitie but when the mater is tryed it will appear that ye haue lytle for you yea your moste precious geare oldest constitutions will appeare to be that thing that they are in veray deid to wit beggerly cerimonies inuēted by the foolhardy and rashe conceat of man with out the warrand of Gods worde or any exemple of that first or primatiue Church moste happely planted by the Apostles reuled by the holy Ghoste for long after the primatiue Church and many hūdreth yeares after that the word wes preached in Rome yea of poore preachers of the Gospel or Bishopes call them as ye list and then Archebishopes and last Patriarc●…es for be theis degries they ascended to the beastes saite there wes in Rome ●…st 66. in nomber or euer there wes a word that any man durste clame to him self the name of vniuersal Bishop or head of the Church after so many Boniface the thrid of that name obt●…ed of Phocas the traytor that slew his master Mauritius the Emperour togither with his wife and children of this bloody Iudas the ambicious beast Boniface obteined I say to be called the head of all Bishopes and the Churche of Rome the mother of all Churches and this wes done in the year of God sex hundreth and seuen or therby This long the Church of God ●…ked this monstrous head from whome 〈◊〉 the rest of his successors and you Papi●…s their members all poysone descen●…ed as frō the natural head of mans bo●…y ather good nutrimēt or euil humors ●…scendeht to the rest of the members ●…he visible head of your kingdome is no ●…der iudge ye then of the mēbers there●… and incres of the body For after that with great contention as sayeth Plati●… this mater wes granted by the afore●…d traterous vsurper of the impyre yet ●…d verie few for a long time acknowledg ●…his tytle of the head of the Church to ap●…rteane to any one earthlie mā but rather ●…ithstude it to the vttermost of their now ●…s and this chiefly did for the most part ●…l the Churches of Grecia and of the ●…ast lykewise did mony vther Churches ●…ntill that the strength of this beast wes ●…uch as at lenth compelled them tirranni ●…ally to cōmit fornication with her after ●…hat she had shaken of the zock of lawfull obedience to Kings and Empreours as their proud Decries whiche afterward I wil inter shal proue and had exalted her self aboue all that wes called God and so sat as one that promised vnto her self nether sorow nor wedowhead but rather cō●…innal prosperitie ād might do whatso euer she lyketh as these wordes followig Taken out of your own law shal testifie ●…apa dicitur habere celeste arbitrium et ideo c●…am naturam rerū immutat substānalia vnius re●… applicando ali●… et de nihilo potest aliquid facere et sententiam que nulla est

concerning the latter dayes are of vs carelesly passed ouer no God forbid for they be warninges betuix our●… eyes The Apostle Peter hath moste carefully warned vs of Sathans ●…yght and fury not forgetting also to istruct vs how to withstand him in these wordes Be sober and watche for your aduersarie the Deuil as a roring lyon walketh aboute feking whome he may beuore whome sayeth the Apostle ye shall resist being steadfast in Faith ye say that Sathan can not take Christes name from vs no certanely nor steare a haire of our heades forther then God doeth appoint him ●…e are not affrayed that that Serpent ●…al ather spoyle vs of thrist or of his na●…e for we know our selues to be Christs ●…epe to whom he hath not onely pmised ●…ernal lyfe but also that they shall neuer ●…rishe nor be plucked out of his hand by ●…y This certanetie of our Saluation ●…ocedeth not of our owne merites and ●…orthynes which God did foresie to be 〈◊〉 vs as ye blasphemous Papistes do ●…irme nor yet of the worthynes of the●… workes that follow after our externall ●…ocation no but the begining the mid●…est and the end of our Saluatiō cometh 〈◊〉 the mear mercy of our God alone in ●…hriste Iesus his Sonne to whome he ●…ly liberally gaue vs before all worl●…es as that he him self witnesseth in the ●…uangle of Iohn saying My Father ●…hich gaue them me is greater then all ●…nd none is able to take them out of my ●…athers hand I and my Father are one ●…pon these promises we rest and shall ●…od willing vnto the end nether feare we ●…s promises nor the fidelitie of them for ●…ppose we be fragel yet wil he not deny 〈◊〉 self but how cometh it to pas that ye perceaue not the craft of this Serpent your self whereof ye admonish others so earnestly For Sathan hath not one●…e spoyled you of christ him self giuen you a whyte tepertane God to play you with but also hath spoyled a great nomber of your masters men euen of the verie name of Christe For they think it to base a name to be called Christians wherewith enerie man is tearmed that is Baptised And therefore are som of them called Frasiscans so●…e Benedictinis some Don●…nicans Agustmians some Car●…elites and Cartusians some Heremites and Iacobins and some with one name and some with other whiche I irke to rehers Hereby plainely witnessing that they are ashamed of the name of Christ before men that he may deny them before his Father in any wise to apertean to him but to be of the nomber of those filthy locustes that S. Iohn remembreth in his Reuelation to haue come out of the bottomles pit Ye desyre vs to remember where and by what maner we haue Christe treuly then ye laboure to persuade vs that he is inclosed in the Sacrament knet to the Church vnto the which in deid he is cup led and maried by an euerlasting couenāt but not to your adulterus Church which ye wold make men beleue were the trew Church of God and so ye conclude that 〈◊〉 haue dispysed the Church sittuat vpō the montane and hath intrused a figure for Christes body in the Sacrament This I trust be your meaning and the ●…one of your argument whereunto we ●…er That the Lord Iesus being rea●… to leue the world and go to his Father seing his Disciples who at that present were carnall mynded sorie for ●…s bodylie departing made vnto them 〈◊〉 solempned promise that he wolde not ●…aue them confortles but if they wolde ●…pe his commandements and teache his people also to obserue all whatsoeuer 〈◊〉 had commanded them that then but ●…out he wold be present with them vnto ●…e end of the world not catnally nor ma●…cally inclosed in a bit of coniured bread 〈◊〉 which is now and then offered for seicke 〈◊〉 wine and Fearsy horses but by his ho●…e Spirit effectually working i their har 〈◊〉 that thing which his bodylie presence ●…uld not do whose departing from them ●…es vtterly necessarie and expedient as he him self doeth witnes in these wordes I tell you the treuth it is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away the conforter which is the holy Ghoste will not come vnto you but if I depart I will send him vnto you Marck these wordes ye carnal Capernaites that wold pluck Christes fleshe from the right hand of the Father that if ye haue his flesh yet still with you ye lack his Spirit for he affirmeth in plaine wordes that the Spirit will not come except he depart and be absent in bodie Now chuse yow whither ye will want his bodie or his Spirit or rather whither think ye it better to imagine that ye haue his bodie for otherwise ye haue it nor and so for your fals imagi nation lack his Spirit or to grant that thing to be absent which is absent in deid and can not come til the latter day to the end ye may be participant of that holie Spirit that God poureth in the hartes of his chosen euē here in this lyfe whereby we cry Abba Father But the questiō is soue answered on your part I am assured ye had rather play you with your myrrie conceats contenting your selues with that presence of Christe that you think ye haue nor to haue his Spirit except that ye might win money thereby as Symon Magus your predicessoure wold haue done For ye haue win more by the Magicall and merualous lying myrackle of transubstantiation whereby ye wold make men beleue that a peice of bread not worth a quarter of a farthing were changed in your masses to the body of Christ God and man the same lenth brede that he hang on the crose by this iugling I say ye haue win more then euer ye did by his Spirit But to the purpose we conclude that Christ is here present with his Church alwayes according to his promise by his holy Ghoste whiche who so hath not aperteined not to Christ with what giftes soeuer he be indued besyde ye make our selues iudges whither that we haue lighlyed the treu Church or not sittuat vpon the montane if ye mean hereby the Church of Rome as I dout not but ye do we deny simplie that it is the trew Church but rather that spirituall Babylone whereout of the Lord hath commanded his people to come that they ●…e not partaker of her plagues whither ye meane by this montane that great hil of ambitiō that Sathan caryed Christ to when that he promised him the whole Kingdomes of the earth if he wold worship hi which Christ refused your Pope hath receaued or if ye meane hereby the hilles that are sittuat about Rome which S. Iohn sayeth are 7. in nomber which also Baptista Mantuanus affirmeth for he calleth your Rome Se●…ollem vrbem I can not well tell