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their_o parent_n and_o to_o honour_n father_n and_o mother_n yet_o other_o child_n be_v not_o so_o bind_v be_v there_o any_o ground_n for_o it_o that_o child_n now_o adult_n if_o not_o in_o full_a communion_n in_o the_o church_n be_v exempt_v from_o this_o commandment_n of_o obedience_n to_o their_o parent_n and_o of_o honour_v of_o they_o we_o conceive_v there_o be_v none_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o than_o the_o child_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v child_n adult_v as_o well_o as_o other_o whether_o in_o full_a communion_n or_o not_o and_o if_o so_o than_o these_o child_n as_o well_o as_o other_o be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n and_o church_n of_o ephesus_n to_o who_o that_o epistle_n be_v write_v and_o then_o the_o whole_a flock_n be_v under_o the_o charge_n of_o elder_n to_o feed_v they_o i._n e._n both_o to_o teach_v and_o kâ—lâ—_n they_o it_o appear_v thereby_o that_o what_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v that_o these_o child_n be_v under_o the_o watch_n and_o discipline_n and_o 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delinquent-member_n that_o be_v orderly_o admit_v into_o church-communion_n and_o for_o other_o that_o be_v not_o thus_o join_v to_o the_o church_n that_o authority_n in_o family_n and_o commonwealth_n be_v wise_o and_o faithful_o manage_v towards_o such_o pag._n 15_o 16._o ans._n all_o these_o we_o acknowledge_v may_v by_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n be_v much_o available_a in_o their_o way_n for_o â—he_n purpose_n allege_v and_o oh_o that_o there_o be_v due_a care_n and_o watchfulness_n in_o churcheâ—_n family_n and_o commonwealth_n for_o the_o faithful_a and_o due_a exercise_n hereof_o nevertheless_o we_o conceive_v all_o these_o be_v not_o â—â—fficienâ—_n for_o the_o purpose_n desire_v 1._o because_o some_o of_o they_o be_v not_o church-waye_n at_o all_o of_o which_o the_o synod_n argument_n speak_v though_o it_o be_v not_o so_o express_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n and_o therefore_o tâ—ough_o government_n in_o family_n and_o commonwealth_n be_v careful_o use_v in_o the_o 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churchway_n for_o the_o good_a of_o these_o there_o be_v none_o if_o they_o be_v not_o under_o church-government_n and_o discipline_n as_o for_o that_o which_o be_v here_o say_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n that_o the_o church_n censure_v of_o adult_n person_n admit_v before_o they_o be_v qualify_v for_o communion_n in_o all_o ordinance_n will_v not_o prevent_v or_o heal_v those_o evil_n see_v the_o lord_n bless_v only_o his_o own_o institution_n not_o man_n device_n and_o that_o humane_a invention_n usual_o cause_v the_o evil_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o cure_v pag._n 15._o this_o reason_n may_v have_v in_o itself_o a_o truth_n viz._n that_o god_n institution_n and_o not_o man_n invention_n be_v the_o way_n wherein_o man_n may_v expect_v a_o blessing_n but_o if_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v affirm_v of_o church-discipline_n towards_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o that_o such_o church-discipline_n be_v a_o humane_a
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johnson_n for_o hezekiah_n usher_n of_o boston_n 1664._o never_o yet_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n form_n â—â—_o ratio_fw-la ecclesiast_n minist_n in_o peregrinor_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la institutâ_fw-la lendini_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 117_o 123_o 135._o with_o pag._n 86_o 104_o 105_o 106._o holy_a baynes_n account_n that_o child_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n diocese_n trial_n pag._n 84._o and_o the_o principle_n point_v to_o in_o his_o christian_a letter_n letter_n 15._o pag._n 125_o 126._o and_o letter_n 24._o pag._n 199_o 202._o edit_fw-la 1637._o also_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o ephesian_n on_o chap._n 1.1_o doct._n 5._o and_o on_o chap._n 2.12_o pag._n 276_o 277._o and_o other_o place_n may_v easy_o be_v improve_v unto_o a_o confirmation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o synod_n dr._n ames_n who_o the_o preface_n call_v foreve_a famous_a judicious_a etc._n etc._n and_o that_o very_o deserve_o how_o large_a his_o judgement_n be_v 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of_o reformation_n he_o add_v ab_fw-la borum_fw-la sive_fw-la vestigiis_fw-la sive_fw-la principiis_fw-la si_fw-la novitatis_fw-la study_v cessimus_fw-la jure_fw-la meritò_fw-la deseremur_fw-la ut_fw-la desertores_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la in_o viâ_fw-la illorum_fw-la ambulamus_fw-la nec_fw-la ultrà _fw-la pregredimur_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la summam_fw-la rei_fw-la attineâ—_n quam_fw-la ab_fw-la illorum_fw-la lumine_fw-la divinitùs_fw-la collustrati_fw-la cert_n non_fw-la nos_fw-la illi_fw-la sumus_fw-la qui_fw-la causam_fw-la reformationis_fw-la deseruimus_fw-la sed_fw-la illi_fw-la potiùs_fw-la quos_fw-la lubens_fw-la nollem_fw-la dicere_fw-la qui_fw-la nos_fw-la ut_fw-la desertores_fw-la deserunt_fw-la &_o deâ—estantur_fw-la so_o here_o if_o we_o out_o of_o any_o changeable_a inclination_n or_o spirit_n of_o innovation_n have_v depart_v from_o the_o footstep_n or_o principle_n of_o those_o bless_a patron_n of_o reformation_n such_o as_o be_v now_o name_v and_o other_o of_o the_o 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do_v profess_v a_o full_a concurrence_n throughout_o in_o all_o the_o substantial_a part_n of_o church-government_n with_o their_o reverend_a brethren_n the_o old_a puritan_n non-confermists_a cite_v in_o the_o margin_n fox_n dearing_n greenbam_n cartwright_n fenner_n fulk_n whitaker_n reynolds_n perkins_n etc._n etc._n now_o let_v the_o judgement_n of_o these_o such_o of_o they_o as_o have_v leave_v any_o thing_n write_v about_o this_o question_n by_o which_o we_o may_v judge_v of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o rest_n be_v consider_v and_o see_v if_o they_o do_v not_o abundant_o confirm_v such_o â—_o latitude_n of_o baptism_n as_o we_o plead_v for_o what_o if_o our_o congregational_a brethren_n in_o england_n have_v not_o yet_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o infancy_n of_o their_o church_n have_v so_o much_o occasion_n to_o look_v into_o this_o question_n as_o ourselves_o for_o a_o long_a time_n have_v not_o nor_o yet_o so_o much_o need_v to_o trouble_v themselves_o about_o the_o full_a extent_n of_o baptism_n in_o a_o place_n where_o there_o be_v enough_o that_o will_v baptize_v those_o who_o themselves_o leave_v unbaptise_v yet_o when_o the_o lord_n shall_v incline_v any_o of_o those_o able_a and_o worthy_a person_n to_o set_v themselves_o to_o the_o study_n of_o this_o point_n why_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o they_o will_v not_o be_v willing_a to_o receive_v light_n from_o or_o that_o they_o will_v be_v willing_a easy_o to_o go_v against_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o old_a nonconformist_n who_o they_o profess_o concurre-with_a in_o other_o part_n of_o discipline_n so_o much_o for_o the_o discourse_n upon_o the_o first_o objection_n in_o answer_n to_o to_o the_o second_o objection_n the_o apologist_n give_v this_o warning_n let_v we_o not_o for_o fear_v of_o anabaptism_n do_v worse_o even_o defile_v ourselves_o with_o antichristianism_n and_o make_v this_o profession_n we_o be_v willing_a to_o profess_v that_o we_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o great_a a_o sin_n to_o baptise_v all_o child_n as_o to_o baptize_v to_o child_n ans._n 1._o we_o shall_v not_o choose_v to_o put_v anabaptism_n as_o contradistinct_a to_o antichristianism_n take_v antichristianism_n for_o all_o that_o which_o be_v against_o christ_n his_o mind_n rule_n and_o kingdom_n so_o sure_o anabaptism_n be_v a_o part_n of_o it_o take_v it_o for_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o papacy_n how_o near_o akin_a the_o doctrine_n and_o principle_n of_o the_o papist_n and_o anabaptist_n be_v be_v show_v in_o à _fw-fr late_a preface_n to_o mr._n shepard_n letter_n the_o anabaptist_n be_v indeed_o ready_a enough_o to_o call_v every_o thing_n that_o they_o mislike_v antichristian_a as_o if_o none_o be_v enemy_n to_o antichristianism_n so_o much_o as_o they_o but_o if_o to_o oppose_v obstruct_v and_o undermine_v the_o kingdom_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v a_o antichristian_a thing_n let_v scripture_n reason_n and_o experience_n speak_v whether_o their_o tenant_n and_o way_n be_v not_o high_o 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infer_v that_o now_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n constitute_v a_o christian_a or_o church-member_n that_o fear_v god_n be_v not_o baptizable_a without_o further_a qualification_n 2._o much_o of_o what_o be_v require_v by_o john_n baptist_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n before_o he_o baptise_a they_o may_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o manner_n of_o administration_n and_o be_v upon_o that_o account_n attend_v in_o a_o case_n so_o circumstance_v as_o that_o be_v for_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o church-state_n though_o so_o degenerate_a as_o they_o be_v they_o be_v in_o a_o far_a other_o and_o near_a capacity_n than_o non-member_n and_o that_o thereby_o they_o have_v a_o right_n to_o the_o ministration_n of_o john_n and_o christ_n among_o they_o be_v plain_a from_o many_o scripture_n luk._n 1.16_o john_n 1.11_o mat._n 10.6_o &_o 15.24_o 26._o rom._n 15.8_o but_o those_o that_o be_v then_o to_o be_v baptise_a at_o that_o first_o institution_n of_o baptism_n and_o 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if_o actual_a be_v contradistinct_a from_o potential_a then_o they_o that_o be_v member_n according_a to_o scripture_n be_v actual_a member_n and_o not_o only_o potential_a or_o potential_o such_o for_o such_o potential_a member_n the_o scripture_n approve_v not_o upon_o these_o ground_n we_o see_v no_o necessity_n of_o the_o alteration_n forementioned_a propos._n 3_o the_o infant-seed_n etc._n etc._n when_o grow_v up_o be_v personal_o under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n arg._n 1._o child_n be_v under_o patriarchall_a and_o moysaicall_a discipline_n of_o old_a etc._n etc._n reply_n the_o text_n allege_v viz._n gen._n 18.19_o &_o 21.9_o 10.12_o and_o gal._n 5.3_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o antecedent_n viz._n that_o child_n be_v under_o patriarchal_a and_o moysaicall_a discipline_n p._n 10._o ans._n and_o yet_o for_o the_o one_o of_o these_o the_o reverend_a author_n confess_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n pag._n 11.12_o that_o the_o member_n 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this_o progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n establish_v the_o church_n deut._n 29.13_o jer._n 30.20_o and_o that_o therefore_o the_o contrary_n do_v disestablish_v it_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o the_o argument_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v for_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o if_o god_n do_v establish_v the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n by_o such_o a_o successive_a progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n deut._n 29.13_o therefore_o he_o do_v so_o now_o pag._n 33._o a._n why_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o if_o god_n do_v establish_v the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n by_o a_o progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n that_o therefore_o he_o do_v so_o now_o be_v not_o that_o true_a which_o the_o reverend_a author_n confess_v to_o be_v true_a that_o the_o frame_n of_o the_o covenant_n run_v to_o we_o and_o our_o seed_n after_o we_o in_o their_o generation_n and_o be_v not_o that_o true_a also_o which_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v though_o the_o reverend_a author_n say_v nothing_o to_o it_o that_o god_n be_v a_o holy_a god_n and_o love_v the_o purity_n and_o glory_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n when_o he_o go_v in_o this_o way_n of_o a_o successive_a progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n we_o suppose_v this_o can_v be_v deny_v and_o therefore_o if_o a_o progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n do_v establish_v the_o church_n then_o why_o not_o so_o now_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o the_o holy_a god_n do_v not_o so_o regard_v the_o purity_n of_o his_o church_n in_o those_o time_n and_o therefore_o do_v then_o establish_v the_o church_n in_o this_o way_n which_o now_o he_o will_v not_o do_v as_o be_v now_o more_o careful_a of_o the_o purity_n of_o his_o church_n we_o fear_v that_o to_o say_v this_o will_v be_v to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n holiness_n and_o glory_n and_o plain_o it_o be_v that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o be_v the_o same_o church-estate_n for_o substance_n and_o kindâ—_n which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o jew_n and_o give_v to_o the_o gentile_n mat._n 21.43_o and_o therefore_o the_o gentile_n be_v say_v to_o be_v fellow-heâ—rs_a and_o of_o the_o same_o body_n with_o they_o ephes._n 3.6_o and_o therefore_o what_o shall_v hinder_v but_o that_o if_o a_o progress_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v a_o mean_n to_o establish_v the_o church_n then_o it_o may_v be_v the_o same_o in_o â—hese_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d also_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v in_o the_o conclusion_n of_o their_o five_o argument_n for_o confirm_v this_o five_o proposition_n that_o the_o more_o holy_a reform_v and_o glorious_a that_o the_o â—â—mâ—s_n be_v or_o shall_v be_v the_o more_o eminent_o be_v a_o successive_a continuation_n and_o propagation_n of_o the_o church_n therein_o design_v promise_a and_o intend_v and_o have_v for_o this_o allege_v these_o scripture_n isa._n 60.15_o &_o
59.21_o ezek._n 37.25_o 28._o psal._n 102.16_o 28._o jer._n 32_o 39_o the_o reverend_a author_n apply_v all_o these_o very_a text_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n which_o church_n he_o say_v must_v consist_v for_o the_o matter_n of_o it_o of_o elect_a and_o sincere_a believer_n only_o both_o they_o and_o their_o child_n successive_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o which_o he_o allege_v the_o text_n aforementioned_a pag._n 33._o ans._n it_o be_v free_o grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v and_o convert_v shall_v be_v very_o holy_a and_o glorious_a and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o that_o church_n shall_v have_v none_o in_o it_o but_o only_o elect_v and_o sincere_a believer_n both_o they_o and_o their_o child_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o when_o christ_n shall_v come_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o church_n though_o it_o be_v compare_v to_o 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