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A33377 Mr. Claude's answer to Monsieur de Meaux's book, intituled, A conference with Mr. Claude with his letter to a friend, wherein he answers a discourse of M. de Condom, now Bishop of Meaux, concerning the Church.; Reponse au livre de Monsieur l'évesque de Meaux, intitulé Conférence avec M. Claude. English Claude, Jean, 1619-1687.; Bossuet, Jacques Bénigne, 1627-1704. 1687 (1687) Wing C4591; ESTC R17732 130,139 128

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