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A82570 The copies of all letters, papers and other transactions between the Commissioners of the Parliament of England, and the Parliament and Committee of Estates of the kingdom of Scotland, from February 10. 1647. until July 8. 1648. Whereby it may appear, what the endeavors of the kingdom of England have been to keep a good understanding, and to preserve the union between the nations: and how the seizing of Barwick and Carlisle by Papists and other notorious delinquents (against whom both kingdoms lately joyned in war as enemies to the happiness and peace of both) was countenanced (if not procured) by the Scotish nation, contrary to several treaties and agreements between the kingdoms of England & Scotland. England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.; Scotland. Parliament.; Scotland. Parliament. Committee of Estates. 1648 (1648) Wing E1284D; Thomason E459_21; ESTC R205096 35,678 61

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maintain By command of the Commissioners of the Parliament of England EDVVARD FOX III. PROPOSITIONS 30 Maii 1648. 1. VVHereas both Houses of the Parliament of England have been necessitated to undertake a War in their just and lawful defence and afterwards both kingdoms of England and Scotland joyned in Solemn League and Covenant were engaged to prosecute the same That by Act of Parliament in each kingdom respectively all Oathes Declarations and Proclamations heretofore had or hereafter to be had against both or either of the Houses of the Parliament of England the Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland and the late Covention of Estates in Scotland or Committees flowing from the Parliament or Convention in Scotland or their Ordinances and proceedings or against any for adhering unto them or for doing or executing any Office place or charge by any Authority derived from them And all Judgements Indictments Outlawries Attainders and Inquisitions in any the said Causes and all Grants thereupon made or had or to be made or had be declared Null suppressed and forbidden and that this be publiquely declared in all parish Churches within His Majesties Dominions and all other places needful 2. Whereas both Kingdoms are mutually obliged by the same Covenant to bring the Churches of God in the three Kingdoms to the nearest conjunction and Uniformity in Doctrine Worship Discipline and Government according to the Word of God and the Example of the best Reformed Churches That the Presbyterial Government be confirmed by Act of Parliament in such maner as both Houses of Parliament have agreed in several Ordinances of Parliament That is to say c. for the term of Three yeers from the _____ of June 1648. That it be established by Act of Parliament That the Lords and Commons in the Parliament of England assembled shall during the space of Ten years from the _____ of June 1648. Arm Train Discipline or cause to be Armed Trained Disciplined all the Forces of the kingdoms of England and Ireland and Dominion of Wales the Isles of Guernsey and Jersey and the Town of Barwick upon Tweed already raised both for Sea and Land-Service and that from time to time during the said space of ten years shall Raise Leavy Arm Train and Discipline or cause to be Raised Leavied Armed Trained and Disciplined any other Forces for Land and Sea-Service in the Kingdoms Dominions and places aforesaid as in their judgements they shall from time to time during the said space of ten years think fit and appoint And that neither the King His Heirs or Successors nor any other but such as shall act by the Authority or Approbation of the said Lords and Commons shall during the said space of Ten years exercise any of the powers aforesaid And the like for the kingdom of Scotland if the Estates of the Parliament there shall think fit That Moneys be Raised and Leavied for the maintenance and use of the said Forces for Land-Service and of the Navy and Forces for Sea-Service in such sort and by such ways and means as the said Lords and Commons shall from time to time during the said space of ten years think fit and appoint and not otherwise and that all the said Forces both for Land and Sea-Service so Raised or Leavied or to be Raised or Leavied and also the Admiralty and Navy shall from time to time during the said space of ten years be Imployed Managed Ordered and Disposed by the said Lords and Commons in such sort and by such ways and means as they shall think fit and appoint and not otherwise And the said Lords and Commons during the space of ten years shall have power 1. To suppress all Forces raised or to be raised without Authority and Consent of the said Lords and Commons to the disturbance of the publique peace of the kingdoms of England and Ireland and Dominion of Wales the Isles of Guernsey and Jersey and the Town of Barwick upon Tweed or any of them 2. To suppress any Forraign Forces who shall invade or endeavor to invade the kingdoms of England and Ireland Dominion of Wales the Isles of Guernsey and Jersey and the Town of Barwick upon Tweed or any of them 3. To conjoyn such Forces of the kingdom of England with the Forces of the kingdom of Scotland as the said Lords and Commons shall from time to time during the said space of ten years judge fit and necessary to resist all forraign Invasions and to suppress any Forces Raised or to be Raised against or within either of the said kingdoms to the disturbance of the publike Peace of the said kingdoms or any of them by any Authority of the Great-Seal or other Warrant whatsoever without consent of the said Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England and the Parliament or the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland respectively and that no Forces of either kingdom shall go into or continue in the other kingdom without the advice and desire of the said Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England and the Parliament of the kingdom of Scotland or such as shall be by them appointed for that purpose Provided That during the said space of ten years nothing herein before contained shall extend to the taking away of the ordinary legal power of Sheriffs Justices of Peace Majors Bayliffs Coroners Constables Headboroughs and other Officers of Justice not being Military Officers concerning the Administration of Justice so as neither the said Sheriffs Justices of the Peace Majors Bayliffs Coroners Constables Headboroughs and other Officers nor any of them do Leavy Conduct Imploy or Command any Forces whatsoever by colour or pretence of any Commission of Array or extraordinary command from His Majesty His Heirs or Successors without the consent of the said Lords and Commons And if any persons during the said space of Ten years shall be gathered and assembled together in warlike maner or otherwise to the number of Thirty persons and shal not forthwith disband or disperse themselves being required thereto by the said Lords Commons or command from them or any by them especially authorized for that purpose Then such person or persons not so disbanding or dispersing themselves shall be guilty and incur the pains of High-Treason being first declared guilty of such offence by the said Lords and Commons Any Commission under the Great Seal or other warrant to the contrary notwithstanding And he or they that shall offend herein to be incapable of any pardon from His Majesty His Heirs or Successors and their Estates shall be disposed as the said Lords and Commons shall think fit and not otherwise Provided That the City of London shall have and injoy all their Rights Liberties and Franchises Customs and Usages in the Raising and Imploying the Forces of that City for the defence thereof in as full and ample maner to all intents and purposes as they have or might have used or injoyed the same at any time before the making of
the said Act or Proposition And after Your Majesties assent given to the three Propositions now tendred to Your Majesty and to such Acts of Parliament as shall be offered by Both Houses for confirmation thereof Then Both Houses of Parliament will Treat with Your Majesty concerning the future settlement of the Government of the Church the settlement of the Militia and upon the rest of the Propositions formerly tendred to Your Majesty at Hampton Court That the Houses of the Parliament of England do desire That such Propositions as shall be fit and necessary for the kingdom of Scotland may be prepared to be sent to His Majesty with all convenient speed A Paper from the Committee of Estates of Scotland of the 8. of July to the Commissioners of England in answer to some of their former Papers At Endenburgh the 8. of July 1648. VVE the Committee of Estates of the Parliament of the kingdom of Scotland do return this answer to your Lordships Papers of the 17. and 22. of June That although our Commissioners at London did often for some Moneths together after the return of our Army out of England attend without any answer to their Papers and the just Desires of this kingdom and at several times for many days could obtain no hearing Yet the Parliament notwithstanding of their important business and that this last Session was very short did always immediately after the receipt of your Lordships Letters and Papers read them and returned such answers as they conceived ought to satisfie and particularly to your Desires concerning Barwick and Carlisle as likewise to that Ingagement which you were pleased to offer upon the advance of the Army under the command of the Lord Fairfax into the North of England towards our border which therefore we shall not here repeat The Parliament also upon consideration of the great dangers threatning Religion His Majesties Person and Authority yea Monarchy it self and the peace and happiness of these kingdoms strictly united by Covenant Treaties and so many near relations Did upon the 26 of April last send such Demands to the Houses of the Parliament of England as they conceived to be just and necessary To which they did upon the 15. day of May return a very general answer relating to a more particular satisfaction to be expected from your Lordships And the Committee of Estates did on the 23. day of May last desire to know if your Lordships had received any further Instructions for satisfying the Desires of this kingdom To which your Lordships answered That as yet you had not received any neither have we since that time heard any thing concerning the said Desires from your Lordships Which we cannot but look upon as a great contempt and neglect of this kingdom and an evidence of no great forwardness nor inclination towards a peace or settlement or Resolution to entertain that Amity and good correspondense betwixt the Nations which we by Treaties Messages and all imaginable means have still studied to preserve And had a satisfactory answer been returned to these our necessary Desires all the Inconveniences which hereafter may insue would probably have been prevented which we have still since that time patiently expected and acted nothing as to an Ingagement in hopes thereof But finding the dangers to all that is dearest to us still increasing No satisfaction nor so much as an answer offered to these our just and necessary Desires No security to Religion but rather a greater danger thereunto from the Propositions now communicated unto us No hope of Safety or Freedom thereby to His Majesties Person and as little of Freedom to the Honorable Houses of the Parliament Ease to the oppressed Subjects of England or Security to either Nation We have therefore resolved to pursue our duties in order to all these as Christians as Subjects and as Brethren joyn'd together in Covenant upon the grounds contained in the inclosed Declaration which we desire your Lordships would be pleased to communicate to the Honorable Houses By command of the Committee of the Estates of Parliament ARCH PRIMEROSE Cler. Vnto this Paper the English Commissioners returned no Answer in regard the Scotish Army had then invaded England The Commissioners of both Houses of the Parliament of England sent to the Committee of Estates of the Kingdom of Scotland for a safe Pass to return into England which they granted and therewith sent a Letter to the Commissioners a Copy whereof is as followeth Right Honorable I Am commanded by the Committee of Estates in Answer to your Lordships Desires of the 19. of this instant July to return to your Lordships from them the inclosed Pass And when your Lordships shall be pleased to acquaint them with the time of your parting from hence they will be ready if you insist thereupon to appoint a competent Convoy to attend your Lordships for so much of the way as you shall think necessary your Lordships engaging the Publique Faith of the Kingdom of England for their safe return I am likewise commanded by the Committee to shew your Lordships That by their Orders the Towns of Barwick and Carlisle are for the Peace of both Kingdoms secured from the Sectaries and that just satisfaction being given to the necessary Desires of this Kingdom not only these Towns shall be put in the condition they were in formerly and their Fortifications slighted but likewise all the Forces of the kingdom of Scotland now in England shall immediately be recalled and return And that they will still inviolably observe on their parts the Union and brotherly Correspondence betwixt the kingdoms The Committee having employed one Mr. Thomas Hamilton Gentleman about a moneth ago to London as a publique Servant of theirs they have commanded me to shew your Lordships their Desire that no let nor hindrance be offered to him in his return which would be contrary to the Law of Nations and their expectations I shall adde nothing from my self but that I am Eden last July 1648. My Lords Your Lordships most humble Servant Crayford and Lindsey The Answer of the Commissioners to the Letter from the Lord Treasurer of the last of July 1648. Right Honorable VVE have received yours of the last of July and to that part thereof which concerns publique business we cannot give your Lordship any Answer but have thought good to let your Lordship understand That an Order is come to our hands Dated the 22. of July 1648. by which we are recalled and thereby our powers of any further Transaction of business with your Lordship otherwise then in order to our return we conceive are Determined as to that part wherein your Lordship hath been pleased to manifest your care for our safe Pass and Convoy we return your Lordship thanks We are Edenburgh 1 Augusti 1648. My Lord Your Lordships most humble Servants C Notingham Bryan Stapleton Robert Goodwyn John Birch FINIS
The Copies of all LETTERS PAPERS And other TRANSACTIONS Between the Commissioners of the Parliament of England And the Parliament and Committee of Estates of the Kingdom of Scotland From February 10. 1647. until July 8. 1648. Whereby it may appear What the Endeavors of the Kingdom of England have been to keep a good Understanding and to preserve The Union between the Nations AND How the SEIZING of Barwick and Carlisle by Papists and other notorious Delinquents against whom both Kingdoms lately joyned in War as Enemies to the Happiness and Peace of both was countenanced if not procured by the Scotish Nation contrary to several Treaties and Agreements between the Kingdoms of England Scotland LONDON Printed for Edward Husband Printer to the Honorable House of Commons August 14. 1648. The Copy of a Letter from the Commissioners of the Parliament of England to the Right Honorable The Earl of Londoun Lord High Chancellor of Scotland SIR WE are sent from both Houses of the Parliament of England Commissioners unto the Committee of Estates Convention of Estates and Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland And hearing that the Committee of Estates do meet this day we do intreat your Lordship to move them on our behalf That they would be pleased to appoint in what way we may impart to them what we have in command from both Houses with as much speed as may stand with their conveniency wherein you will do a special favor unto My Lord Edenburgh 10 Febr. 1647. Your Lordships most humble Servants William Ashhurst John Birch The Lord Chancellors Answer to the Commissioners Letter Right Honorable I Did communicate your Letter yesterday to the Committee of Estates who have commanded me to make known to you That they will take your Desire into consideration and return an Answer speedily And I shall be ready upon all occasions to testifie that I am Holyrood house 11 Feb. 1648. Your most humble Servant Loudoun Canc. The copy of a Letter from the Commissioners to the Lord Chancellor SIR VVE do acknowledge your Lordships favor in presenting the Desires in our former Letter unto the Right Honorable The Committee of Estates And now after we have resided here so many days we judge it our duty both to let their Lordships know in general wherefore we are sent to them and to inable our selves to give some account to Both Houses of the Parliament of England what we do in pursuance of their Commands Therefore we do further humbly intreat your Lordship To communicate this inclosed Paper to the Right Honorable Committee of Estates whose Resolutions we shall attend concerning the way of our further Proceedings and ever remain Edenburgh 15 Feb. 1647. My Lord Your Lordships most humble Servants William Ashhurst John Birch A copy of the first Paper sent by the Commissioners of England to the Committee of Estates of Scotland concerning the Vnion betwixt the Kingdoms VVE the Commissioners of both Houses of the Parliament of England have in charge from them to Declare unto the Committee of Estates Convention of Estates and Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland That it is their unfeigned Desire and shall be their constant Endeavors to maintain and preserve a good Correspondence a right Understanding and a perpetual Brotherly Agreement between the Parliament and Kingdom of England and the Parliament and Kingdom of Scotland And that they do sincerely intend to do all things which with Honor and Justice lies in their Power to give Satisfaction unto their Brethren of Scotland To which end they have sent us that all contrary Impressions or Apprehensions that possibly might arise may be removed and their unfeigned Desire manifested to continue the happy Conjunction betwixt these two Kingdoms in the Common Cause and against the Common Enemy wherein they have been so long through the Blessing of God United it being that whereunto we are deeply obliged by so many mutual Engagements and wherein the glory of God the Interest of all that profess the true Reformed Religion and the Tranquility and Peace of both these Kingdoms are so much concerned Upon which considerations we cannot doubt but that the like Affection and Desire will be manifested by the Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland your Lordships and all others in Power and Trust under them Edenburgh 15 Febr. 1647. By Command of the Commissioners of the Parliament of England JOHN SQUIB A copy of the Lord Chancellors Letter to the Right Honorable the Earl of Notingham and the other Commissioners My Lord and Gentlemen I Received your Letter of the 15. with the inclosed Paper which I communicated to the Committee of Estates who have appointed me to desire that you would be pleased to make known the Commission or Powers you have from the two Houses of the Parliament of England after which they will take your Desires speedily into consideration This being all I have in command at this time I rest 21 February 1648. My Lord and Gentlemen Your most humble Servant LOUDOUN Canc ' A Letter of Credence from the Parliament of England to the Parliament of Scotland for the Commissioners hereafter named Right Honorable VVE are commanded by both Houses of Parliament to signifie unto you That they have nominated and appointed Charls Earl of Notingham Henry Earl of Stanford and Bryan Stapilton Robert Goodwyn William Ashhurst and Colonel John Birch Esquires Committees and Commissioners of Both Houses of the Parliament of England to the Parliament of Scotland and therefore in the name of the two Houses of Parliament we are to desire the Parliament of Scotland to give unto them or any two of them full credit in those things which shall be propounded by them from and on the behalf of Both Houses of Parliament Westminster 31. Jan. 1647. Your Lordships very affectionate Friends and Servants E. Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore William Lenthal Speaker of the House of Commons A Letter from the Commissioners to the Lord Chancellor of Scotland My Lord THe Last night we received in a Letter from your Lordship that which upon Saturday the 19. of this moneth your Lordship was pleased to deliver to us by word of mouth from the Committee of Estates in Answer whereunto we did then shew unto your Lordship our Letters of Credence unto the Parliament of Scotland whereof because we have a Duplicate we have for better satisfaction sent you inclosed one of the Originals which we doubt not will give satisfaction unto the Right Honorable Committee of Estates to whom both Houses of the Parliament of England are so desirous to shew all respect that we are confident they would have sent to them also a particular Letter of Credence if it could have been judged necessary or usual Besides we did then shew unto your Lordship that both Houses of the Parliament of England did upon the 29. of January last pass Instructions which having the force of an Ordinance of Parliament are both a Commission and Instructions