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A64836 A warning to back-sliders, or, A discovery for the recovery of fallen ones delivered in a sermon at Pauls, before the Right Honourable, the Lord Mayor and Aldermen of the city of London / Ralph Venning. Venning, Ralph, 1621?-1674. 1654 (1654) Wing V229; ESTC R8176 20,885 66

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servants might serve God what care there was to make every one in the Family a Saint a holy wife a holy child a holy servant to have a Church in a house You know GOD called Abraham his frind why I know he will teach his children after him saith Joshua As for my part do you what you think good but I my house we will serve the Lord. O what care there was among the old Professors the old Puritans you cal'd them to bring up their children in the fear of God and to look to it that a vile person should not be let into much lesse abide in their house if they could help it But now My beloved is it not the sad complaint that is and is to be made no children more neglected then Professors children no servants more neglected then Professors servants O that this should be spoken in these days where there is more light in words but it seems more darknesse in deeds O remember from whence you are fallen To your old Family-work again O set up Family-duties again lif ever you mean to have good Families up with Family-duties again if ever you mean to have good Relations pray more with them pray more for them if ever you mean to have good children O give them up to God and teach them the fear of the Lord train them up in his paths betimes Little would one have thought that ever it should have been a question among Christians whether one should teach children the fear of the Lord whether one should teach a child the trade of his way when he is young that when he is old he may not depart from it I remember that it was the saying of a Heathen being asked what things we were to teach children to know We must said he teach them to know that when they are young that they must do when they are old that was his answer We were best call him a Christian and call Christians Heathens for by their practice both may be said Is it not a shame that it should be said no children so rude so vile so abusing the Name of God as them that will be forsooth the most eminent Professours and of them that have attained in pretention to more steps then ordinary heaven-ward But in the nineth place IX Saints at their first coming in to God in the beginning of their days they were visible Saints he that did run might read an alteration Alas the Saints are grown invisible and are they not fallen Tertullian tells us that Christians were known by the amendment of their lives no man so meek as the Christian no man so holy as the Christian so just so upright so faithfull as the Christian they were known all the world over by being the best men they were visible Saints a man might have tead the image of JESUS CHRIST in them and the verteus of their Master were limned over The lived the word of life in the works of their lives But now Saints I say are grown invisible and are they not fallen Truly there are scarce any outward words or works almost to be found by which one can discerne a Saint from a sinner in our age It was otherwise once but we are fallen They will tell you O what sweet enjoyments they have within it may well be within for none can see it without Christ tells us By their fruits saith he you shall know them And Hereby shall all men know that ye are my Disciples if ye keep my Commandments O we can talk of ravishments within and O what a place of Scripture was set home upon my heart at such a time and O how God ravished me upon such a day O but can ointment be hid can a man conceale coales in his bosome where is this humility and holinesse that should arise from this communion with God where is the righteousnes the justice the upright dealing amongst men that was wont to be visible amongst the Saints O that in a visible worldt he Saints should be invisible It is storied of a Philosopher if I mistake not the Cynick Diogenes that he went with a Lanthorn and candle at high noon into the Market-place the people asked him what he meant to do I am going to find out a man saith he A man say they here is a multitude of men here are store of men in the Market O saith he I would find out a man one that acts like a man and lives like aman Truly one might go would God there were no cause to say it through Congregations through such meeting places as these are with a lanthorn and candle amongst the Saints to finde out a Saint amongst Professors to finde out a Professor You will say here are store I here are Professors but where is that that is professed A man may find many that professe humility but where is that humility that is professed one may find many that professe holiness but where shall one finde the holinesse that is professed one may finde many that professe heavenly-mindednesse but where shall one find the heavenly-mindedness that is professed As he said Give me that tells me the man is a man so give me that too that tells me a Saint is a Saint give me that that makes a Saint visible a visible Saint for my Religion In the last place X. Saints at the first coming in to Jesus Christ were very choice of their company and of their communion they were not every bodies fellow at least every body was not theirs Saith Paul I am crucified to this world I and the world is crucified to me I am even with it saith he I pay it in its own coine the meaning of it is this the world thinks not the Saints worthy of their company and the Saints think not the world worthy of theirs At first they were very choice of their society 't was a vexation to their soul to live in Sodome an hell to them to be with Mesek and to have their habitation in the tents of Kedar they would not be amongst the crowde nor go with a multitude to do evil They were in very truth Separatists that is men that did withdraw from sin and sinners I mean no faction not this nor that but I say they were truly Separatists men that separated from sinne and sinners You have somewhat in one of Pauls Epistles as an answer to that question 1 Cor. 5.9 It seems the poor souls were very shie of their company what company they kept and therefore saith he I write to you not to keep company with Fornicators yet not with the Fornicators of this world for then ye must go out of the world the world is so full of them that you will scarce buy or sell but you will meet with a drunkard swearer fornicator or one sinner or other But saith he if there be any man that is called a brother any man that professeth the Name of God and the fear of God and this man be a fornicator or this man be covetous or this man be so and so I would not have you eat with that man no I would not have you so much as sit at his table much lesse at Gods Table with that man And the same Apostle saith 2 Cor. 6.14 Why will ye be unequally yoaked What communion hath light with darness What fellowship hath Christ with Belial or righteousnesse with unrighteousness To see a Saint a sinner keep company were to see the living the dead keep house together and you know what sweet work there is like to be Why now if thou be no more shie of thy company but likest all as if all were alike thou art fallen It may be thou canst please thy self as well in a fornicators company or in a drunkards company or in an earth-worms company or in a jesters company as thou canst in the company of a Saint or in the company of a dear child of God I tell thee if so thou art fallen O remember from whence thou art fallen and do thy first works Be choice saith he have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darknesse nor with the workers of darknesse but reprove them rather how by with-drawing from them by having no more fellowship with them For Saints to be intimate with sinners is to intimate that they are sinners and therefore I beseech you that you will please to remember from whence you are fallen and let us so remember as to repent Let it grieve our hearts that we have grieved our God and let us love him the more for that we have loved him so little let us now make strait steps to our feet and be double diligent and as it is said of another of the Churches let our works be more I and better at last then at first O that as we grow in days we may grow in grace and abound in the work of the Lord Thus my beloved let us remember and repent and do our first works and then when Jesus Christ comes we shall not need to fear the removing of Candlesticks but the lighting up of joy and peace to our souls I and he will say unto us Come ye blessed of my Father inherit the Kingdom prepared for you So much and no more for this time FINIS