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A75749 A remonstrance, against presbitery. Exhibited by divers of the nobilitie, gentrie, ministers and inhabitants of the county palatine. of Chester with the motives of that remonstrance. Together with a short survey of the Presbyterian discipline. Shewing the inconveniences of it; and the inconsistency thereof with the constitution of this state, being in its principles destructive to the laws and liberties of the people. With a briefe review of the institution, succession, iurisdiction of the ancient and venerable order of bishops. Found to bee instituted by the Apostles, continued ever since, grounded on the lawes of God, and most agreeable to the law of the land. / By Sir Thomas Aston baronet. Aston, Thomas, Sir, 1600-1645. 1641 (1641) Wing A4078; Thomason E163_1; Thomason E163_2; ESTC R212696 75,691 128

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on those pillars of our State that prop up the regulated Fabrick of this glorious Monarchy and by cracking them wilfully burie themselves and us in the rubbish of that Chaos which they so pull upon their owne heads seeking to turne our freedome into fetters by cancelling our ancient Lawes the Charters of true liberty and exposing us eternall Apprentices to the Arbitrarie Jurisdiction of a new Corporation of Apron Elders Mechanick Artizans as if they had forgot the old Rule Haec natura multitudinis est aut humiliter servit aut superbè dominatur When we know the principle of the Religion of some of these is That every man should be equall for calling and that there should bee no difference of Persons amongst Christians o Sleidan Com. l. 5. And the Maxime of policy is that to erect a paritie where there are many Gentry they must first dispatch them out of the way p Machiavell SECT 14. Presbyteriall Discipline brings not libertie to the vulgar but introduces a meere Arbitrarie Government BUt perhaps to all this the common people lend a ready eare This still tends to the inlarging of their lov'd liberty 'T is true indeed here is a large designe of libertie The Presbyters must as I have shewed have power over Princes Nobles Magistrates bee subordinate to no Lawes concluded by no Parliament but bee an independent bodie of themselves and the common people must be their factors for this freedome And when they have done all what share shall these deluded people have of this dreame of libertie Is it any other than such as a poore prisoner for debt finds when he is released from the bonds of the Law by a Turkish pirate hee tugs hard at an Oare to waft his Rescuers from the reach of his just Creditors but when hee hath brought them to their wished haven he there sees himselfe seven fold more slave than he was in prison chained to his Gally without hopes of Redemption rest or possibilitie of avoyding stripes though all his life besides bee but one continued drudgerie 'T is plaine indeed we shall set the Presbyterie free from the government of men or reach of Lawes but let us examine if the whole constitution of their Discipline bee not to us a bondage Their first Maxime is to place themselves above the reach of man what they deny as a Treasonable challenge in the Bishops against the prerogative of Princes they boldly assume to themselves to the little Bishop absolute Pope of every parish that their office is jure Divino q 8. Propositions printed 1641. Eatons Positions 6. 9. Every visible Church being an independent body of it selfe having power from Christ her head to binde and loose to receive in and cast out by the Keyes of the Kingdome whereby neither to their office nor authoritie doth either King or potentate man or Law contribute any thing not so much as in ordination of particular Ministers for they tell us r Christ on his throne fol. 67. Some Protestants are of opinion that Ordination cannot be performed but by a Prelate or at least by Ministers onely without whose imposition of hands it were no Ordination as is if it did conferre such an order Whereas say they the prime and proper conferring of this Order is by Christ himselfe inwardly calling and gifting a man for the worke of the Ministerie And though the Evangelist saies in the eighth to the Acts ſ Acts 8.18 That through laying on of the Apostles hands the Holy Ghost was given And St. Paul explaines it fully to be interpreted of Election into the Ministery charging Timothy t 1 Tim. 4.14 Not to neglect the gift that is in thee which was given thee by Prophesie with the laying on of the hands of the Presbyterie which they confesse was frequent in the Apostles times u Christ on his throne 68. Yet afterwards say they in successive ages there was no such gift annexed to the laying on of hands w Christ on his throne Prelacy misery fol. 7. Eatons Positions 2. but that the election of Ministers was by every Congregation respectively With this false pretence of power That to the people belonged the laying on of their hands as a token of their approbation and confirmation of him that is chosen working upon the vulgar who are ready to snatch at every shadow of liberty to advance their Hierarchy Though they must know as soone as they have done that they have raised a spirit they have not power to lay again for then they tell them the worke of their owne hands These new created x Chorda Angliae fol. 8. Proposition the 9. If any be so hardy as but to speak evill of any Minister or mis-name them he is to bee imprisoned Lawes of Geneva fol. 71. Pastors must be reverently respected and that the people bee not suffered in any wise to scandalize them nor have power to depose them or put them out whom before they have made choyce of But their position is A man once made a Minister is not to be kept back from preaching by the Inhibition of any creature y Martin Junior Thesis 106. No sooner advanc'd but straight the Scene is changed they write up actum est it is finished their worke is done and then the people that have all this while beene taught to value themselves z Buchani de jure regni fol 73. Populum á quo reges nostri habent quicquid juris sibi vendicant regibus esse potentiorem jusque idem in eos habere multitudinem quod illi in singulosé multitudine habent above the power of Kings who challenge all their right from them and that the multitude hath the same power over Kings that Kings have over every one of the multitude that it was their Office to pull downe Prelates and reforme Religion a Knox to the Communalty fol. 49. must now learne another lesson and know their distance That Oves non possunt judicare Pastores The Presbyter is no sooner in his chaire but he is presently a Iudge And if any heresie prophanenesse or Idolatrie creep into the Church he may root it out b Prelacy is miserie fol. 7. And not onely judge of Schismes or Heresies in poynts of Doctrine or faith but he with his Elders become absolute Chancellors over our Lives Families and Estates If we examine the latitude of their Commission wee shall finde it extend to no lesse one tells us the Minister and Elders are weekly to meet for censuring delinquents in swearing cursing prophanation of the Lords Day drinking Fornication adulterie and for debating of Heresies and superstitions c. c A report of the form of Church government by a Presbyterie And if any be suspected or if there be any scandall in the bounds proceeding with the censures of the Kirk against them that all transgressors may be brought to repentance or separated from the people of God Some
I see in these men no shadow of true libertie by pretending legall government nor yet the false glosse of libertie by extinguishing all power but that it is evident by desiring to share the power of the keyes Paraeus Catechetica 5. praecepti and to execute Ecclesiasticall censures in their congregations within themselves Petition annexed note 3 They have no thought of the peoples libertie but to assume into their owne hands the same power they cry downe in the Bishops not to qualifie but to exalt it above all moderation The use thereof being fully explaned by Expositors of their owne straine to import no lesse than to trample under feet the sacred Crownes of Kings the power of Parliaments the seats of Justice the use of Magistrates the efficacie of Lawes and make themselves Chancellours over our lives and conversations our wives our children our servants our private families and our estates That any hands should help to hoyse up unlimited unbounded Tyranny I have nothing left me but acclamation O fortunati nimium bona si sua norint and shall conclude with that saying Quos Iupiter vult perdere hos prius dementat Yet shall I freely display some of those positions which divers that pretend reformation lesse blush to publish than I to recite as part of their new Christian doctrine which how consistent with the Monarchique Government of this State how far inclinable to an Anarchy and whether subversive of the Lawes or destructive to the Subjects libertie I shall not take upon mee to determine but perhaps the consideration may please some others though I professe I only write to please my selfe Liberare animam Yet I hope no man will be so far displeased with mee as to apply what I collect from some as meant by all that pretend a Presbyteriall Government I have charitie to thinke many men that way enclined have good intentions and desire reformation out of a pure heart But I am confident the more they acquaint themselves with such positions as these the lesse they will like the discipline SECT 9. Episcopacie most agreeable with a Monarchie HEre as in all distracted States may well be applyed the poets exclamation Tantum Religio potuit suadere malorum Not that Religion it selfe which is the band of peace is cause of evils but that it is made the usuall cloake of all seditious disturbances either in Church or State All the shafts of malice every clamour obloquy shot at the order doctrine and persons of the Bishops how ever feathered wirh the pretext of pietie yet still light all in one center and may appeare to be levelled all at one mark The power of the keyes is the burthen of all their songs Sions plea fol. 82. All the fearfull evils of sin and iudgement from withholding the keyes of Christs Kingdome in which consisting the Ecclesiasti que Discipline not Doctrine of the Church it becomes rather a question in Policie than in Divinitie whether it should rest in the hands of a few intrusted by the Church or to be transmitted to the hands of a multitude or as our Preacher would have it k Politions annexed to the petition 10 to every particular member of the Church And where it is cleare in point of Divinitie where the Scripture hath not expressely set the rule as in this particular it is left doubtfull such Separatists interpreting that place of Matthew l Matth. 18.17 Sions plea 285. Titus 2.15 3.10 In his rebus de quibus nihil certi statuit divina Scriptura mos populi Dei instituta majorū pro lege tenenda sunt sicut praevaricatores divinarum legum ita contemptores Ecclesiasticarū consuetudinū coercendi sunt August ad Casulanum Goe tell the Church to bee the whole Congregation whereas others conceive it clearely restrained to such as are set in authoritie by the Church out of that of Titus who being entrusted by Saint Paul in the Churches of Crete hee directs him to rebuke with all authoritie And more particularly A man that is an heretique after the first and second admonition reject In this case we must examine the ancient continued practice and opinions of former times and Writers And such contemners of the customes of the Church sayes Saint Austin are to be compelled But truly this was so little questioned in antiquitie that it seemes it was never doubted by Calvin himselfe sayes he Calvin Epistol ad Gasperum Lizetum Nun quam utile putavi jus excommunicundi permitti singulis pastoribus Nam res odiosa est nec exemplum probabile facilis in Tyrannidem lapsus alium usum Apostoli tradiderunt I never thought it usefull to commit the power of excommunication to everie Pastour for it is an odious thing and not to be approved but would soone slip into tyranny and the Apostles left another custome And indeed what tyranny were not to be looked for from such aspirers if they were once invested in power who cannot smother their ambition till they get into possession what is the pride of the Prelates who admit the King the supreme head of the Church under Christ receive their designation from him hold the inferiour hath not power over the superiour compared with these spirits who tell us That Princes m T. C. Reply p. 144. Rogers Preface Huic disciplinae omnes orbis Principes Monarchas falce suas submittere pare●e necesse est Travers de Disciplina Ecclesiae fol 142. Baron Annals 1076. must be subject unto the Church and submit their Stepters and throw downe their Crownes before the Church and lick up the dust of the feet of the Church all which is applyed to their Presbyterie ascribing to every Presbyter what the Pope onely assumes to himselfe That all Kings ought to kisse his feet How this superintendencie is derived from Scripture how consonant to Antiquitie or consistent with the glorie of a King is considerible I conceived God himselfe had an high hand in the institution of Kings and Princes when hee leaves this principle in the Mosaick Law n Deuteron 17.15 Thou shalt set him King over thee whom the Lord thy God shall chuse And in that hee sayes o 1 Samuel 15.11 I have set up Saul to be King And of David he sayes p 1 Samuel 16.1 I have provided me a King And of Salomon sayes the prophet q Nehemiah 13.26 God made him King over all Israel Nor does he dispose Crownes at the direction or by the advice of others r Daniel 4.31 for the most high ruleth in the Kingdome of men and giveth it to whomsoever he will But it should appeare he challenges to himselfe the sole proprietie of this King-making Jurisdiction in that he rebukes the Israelites saying They have set up a King but not by mee ſ Hosea 8.4 They have made them Princes and I knew it not And as in institution so in succession will