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A18947 The Popes deadly wound tending to resolue all men, in the chiefe and principall points now in controuersie betweene the papists and vs. Written by T.C. and published by Master Doctor Burges, now preacher to the English troopes in the Pallatinate. Clarke, Thomas, of Sutton Coldfield.; Burges, John, 1561?-1635. 1621 (1621) STC 5364; ESTC S108050 185,964 236

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in their proper shape and true likenesse And this was also at the time of the rising of Luther when as there was neither sound doctrine true faith nor religion to be found in all the Romish iurisdiction according to that Prophecie of their S. Hildegard a Nunne which saith In the Apostolike order to wit in the Roman Sea no religion shall be found Truely Christian Reader it seemeth very apparent that God hath made speciall choyse of England aboue all the Nations in the world to be the chiefe for the recouering and reducing of that part of his Church the Romish iurisdiction and the ouerthrow of Antichrists kingdome and religion For whereas in the 17. chapter of the Reuelation the tenne hornes are declared to be the maine strength of the seauen-hilled Citie to wit Rome and that the text declareth also those hornes to be so many kingdomes and that the learned expound them to be these tenne head kingdomes of the Romish iurisdiction England Scotland Denmarke c. the first whereof that withdrew her power from Rome was England it is manifest England is the chiefe I know Christian Reader it would be thought strange to say that that which was done by King Henry was foretold in the booke of the Reuelation Neuerthelesse a very learned man writing vpon these words in the 13. verse of the 11. chap. And the tenth part of the Citie shall fall saith plainely It is a thousand to one but that it is meant of King Henry meaning his withdrawing his power from Rome And indeed it is tenne thousand to one but that it is meant of him For plaine experience doth euidently demonstrate England to be the chiefe of those tenne Kingdomes also which the 16. verse of the 17. chap. declareth shall be the meanes of the finall fall of the Citie of Rome and power of Antichrist for that after this worke was set abroach by King Henry we saw it so greatly to preuaile vnder the raigne of that famous Queene his Daughter Elizabeth that at her decease the Pope had scarce three of those Kingdomes signified by those hornes left to adhere with him intirely And I doe finde also by diuers of the olde Romish Predictions that as God made King Henry the maine beginner of the ruine and decay of the strength of Romish Babylon so he hath ordained a most worthy King of the name of Iacob to second him in that worke And as touching that which shall be further effected by him thus hath their Robertus a Dominican Frier written long agoe in his second Sermon But Iacob flying from the Serpents face which Serpent in his third vision hee affirmeth the spirit told him was Antichrist the Pope is ioyned to those that doe praise my name For which cause hee declareth the Pope whom in the same Sermon hee compareth to Esau should put in practise the destruction of the spirituall Iacob as also for refusing to ioyne with him and to be of his societie For there hee bringeth in the Pope speaking in this manner to his spirituall sonnes Goe to my Sonnes and enter into a consultation among your selues how I may bring him vnder for by his destruction my treasure shall bee exceedingly increased I haue neede of much because the name of my house is great vpon the face of the earth Deglutiamus eum virum Come therefore let vs swallow him vp aliue Which Prophecie albeit wee saw fulfilled in the Powder-treason yet as the same Frier sheweth that all the Pope could doe should nothing at all preuaile so thankes be to our good God we saw it did not Againe the same Frier in his sixeteenth Sermon fore-sheweth that it shall come to passe that the same Iacob whom there hee calleth the Lyon King shall visite the Emperour and the rest of the Roman and other Catholique Princes of Christendome by his Christian and royall exhortations to helpe to subdue the Pope and to bring the Church of Rome into the same state of primitiue puritie as it was in the happy dayes of Constantine the Great Theodosius Valentinian c. Whereby he declareth not onely how greatly the Church of Rome is fallen from her primitiue purity in religion but also that shee shall be reformed by the speciall meanes of our Nation of England And to the like effect are these words of their Saint Bridgit cannonized for a Saint by Pope Boniface the ninth in her sixt booke of Reuelations 26. chap. where she bringeth in Christ complayning of the decaied state of the Church of Rome shewing him to exhort all Christian Kings what course to take for the perfect reformation thereof saying Wherefore the King for whom thou dost pray ought to call and assemble a Councell of Spirituall men such as are wise through my wisedome and he ought to enquire diligently of those that haue my spirite and aske their aduice how and by what meanes the wall of my Church may be built againe amongst Christians how God may be restored to his honour true Religion made to flourish anew godly charity made more feruent my passion more deepely imprinted in the hearts and mindes of men and my Commaundements loued with greater zeale and respect Let him therefore gather together the vpright and true kinde of Christians that hee together with them may repaire the spirituall breaches of my Church the which verily hath departed too farre from mee By which wee see shee giueth all true Christian Princes to vnderstand that God requireth of them that they ioyne together and vse all meanes by godly and learned instructers to reclayme the Romish Church and to reduce her to that most auncient Catholique faith and religion which Saint Paul so commended her for at the first which albeit at the first or on the sodaine shee will not receiue but as their Abbot Ioachim vpon the 22. chapter of Ieremy sayth Will stoppe her eares lest shee should heare the charming of the inchaunter the voyce of him that admonisheth her yet vpon the 15.17.18.21 and 22. chapters he showeth that those admonitions shall in short time so worke that not onely the Germaine Empire shall forsake the Church of Rome but the Church it selfe with her Colledge of Cardinalls shal be diuided and fall into discord among themselues And vpon the 50. and 51. of Ieremy he sheweth by the effect that those admonitions shall so greatly preuaile that the Pope and the whole order of his Clergie his Consistorie and State shall be exceedingly impaired For saith he The Nobles of the Romaine Church shall perish the Monasteries shall be diminished the High Priest shall be purified and Christian Religion shall be winnowed as with a fanne And the same also did their Saint Katharine of Sienne foresee as may appeare by these her words written in a prayer of hers But what shall the Lord doe to these euill husband men he shall come and destroy them and let out his Vineyard vnto others c. By tribulations and afflictions and in such a manner
who shall reforme the World in better and shall bring backe all Clergie-men to the ancient and primitiue manner of liuing according to the forme of the Disciples of Christ He shall conuert the Infidels and the Iewes c. And so there shall be one Law one faith and one Baptisme and one manner of liuing and all Christian people shall be of one minde and of one heart louing one another and their peace shall last many yeares but after the world hath beene reformed into better the malice of men shall againe awake and they shall returne to the committing the former euils yea they shall doe more wickedly then ere they did before for the which cause God shall hasten the end of the World And as the authors of those Prophesies who fore-told of the vtter desolation of Rome seemed to allude vnto the 21.22.23 and 24. Verses of the eighteenth chapter of the Reuelation by which words in those Verses the Angell fore-shewed the same so the latter end of this old Prophesie seemeth to haue relation to these words of Christ in the 12. Verse of the 24. Chapter of Saint Matthew And because iniquitie shall be increased the loue of many shall be cold As also to these words in the 22. Verse according to the vnderstanding of some And except those daies should be shortened there should no flesh be saued But for the Elect sake those daies shall be shortned And the former part seemeth also to allude vnto those words in the sixe and twentieth and 27. Verses of the 7. Chapter of the Prophet Daniel which sheweth that after Antichrist and his Kingdome is ouerthrowne the fulnesse of the Gentiles shall come in and the Iewes shall be called and so all shall be conuerted to the truth and serue the onely true God Neuerthelesse wee may not vnderstand it to be meant of euery particular of all For howsoeuer Antichrist the Head and his successiue incorporate body shall vtterly be desolued so as that there shall neuer be any more a publique Church of Antichrist yet euen as it is now here in England and the other conuerted Nations some of the members of the misticall body of Antichrist will remaine scattered here and there in diuers parts of the World to the comming of Christ to iudgement For to the same effect are these words of S. Paul 2 Thessalonians 2. Chapter where he speaking of Antichrist and his members saith Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth and abolish with the brightnesse of his comming And as that old Prophesie did foreshew the calling of the Iewes by the meanes of a godly and learned Bishop so in another Prediction had out of the Bishop of Limoges Library in France vttered more then 600. Yeeres agoe it is said that an holy Bishop shall cause a generall Councell to be called and shall perswade Christian Princes to ioyne together all their powers against the Sarazens and to rid Ierusalem of them which being done the same Bishop because of the iniquity of the Romans shall translate Saint Peters Chaire to Ierusalem and shall suffer none other Law but that onely of Iesus Christ And to this agreeth that Prophesie of Sauanarola the Dominican Friar which to shew that as Ierusalem was the first Church and the chiefe of all other so it should be at the last saith thus I saw in a vision in the yeere of our Lord 1482. two Crosses the one was blacke planted in the middest of the City of Rome spreading as it were the armes ouer the whole Earth and with the top touching the whole Heauen whereon was written these words Crux Irae Dei The Crosse of Gods anger or wrath which hauing seene behold incontinent I beheld and saw the aire darkened and troubled with tempestuous cloudes windes lightnings darts swords fire and haile and mee thought I saw an innumerable number of men destroyed through the force and violence thereof so that few were left behinde vnslaine Afterwards I saw a sweete faire and cleare time ensuing and loe I beheld and saw as it were a golden Crosse in the middest of Ierusalem of the brightnesse and height of the former so bright that it did inlighten the whole World and filled the same with new ioy and gladnesse and it had written vpon it Crux misericordiae Dei The Crosse of the mercy and fauour of God and loe incontinent and on a suddaine all the Nations of the World of both Sexe came in troupes from all parts to behold it Esay cap. 2. Verse 2. and imbraced it And this Vision seemeth to agree with that Prophesie of Esay Chap. the 2. where it is said It shall be in the last dayes that the mountaine of the house of the Lord shall be prepared in the top of the mountaines and shall be exalted aboue the hilles and all Nations shall flow vnto it And also with these words of Saint Paul Romans 11. If the fall of them to wit the Iewes be the riches of the World and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles how much more shall their abundance be By which and other such like Visions saith the Translator the aforesaid holy man Sauanarola was forewarned of the future castigation and renouation of the Church of Rome and how that the Apostolike Sea should be remoued from thence to Ierusalem which is likewise according to the Prediction of the Franciscan Friar Ioannes de Rupe scissa and also to another Prediction had out of Limoges Library in France and finally to the Prediction of Marlinus Caldidonius And now Christian Reader as it seemeth apparant by these Romish Predictions agreeable to the Scriptures that God respecteth England as the holy Land of Canaan so is it made yet more apparant by William of Malmsbury in his second Booke of his Kings and second Booke of his Bishops where hee sheweth that in a Vision to holy Brithwall Bishop of Winchester this voyce was vttered Regnum Anglorum est Dei The Kingdome of England is Gods Which signifieth that howsoeuer all the Nations in the world are Gods as well as England yet hath God made speciall choyce of England aboue all other Nations in the World to effect some notable and extraordinary worke which worke we may easily gather by all the former Predictions is to be a chiefe instrument of the propagation of the Gospell to forraigne Lands both for the calling in of the remainder of the Gentiles and also of the whole Nation of the Iewes To the which I beseech our Lord God to giue good successe and to send peace and agreement amongst the Electors For their Astrologian Ruth in the second part of his Booke 7. Chapter sheweth that there shall be great tribulation and diuision amongst them and therefore admonisheth them to agree lest the Turke get so great aduantage by their discord as to driue the Bohemian Polonians Danes and English to be glad to contract a league of amity with him which thing God
was to the number of an hundred and fortie which chose rather to suffer all torments than to receiue the Romish religion and so to deny the truth of the most glorious Gospell And a good while before this time there was foure and twentie put to death at Paris there were foure hundred noted to be heretikes foure score beheaded Prince Armericus was hanged and the Lady of the Castle was stoned to death In the daies of King Edward the third about the yeare 1371. beganne Iohn Wickliffe of Oxenford Wickliffe openly to deale against the Pope and Popish doctrine The times were then very grieuous the Popish kingdome of Antichrist being risen vp vnto a very great strength and crueltie King Edward himselfe being very well learned a valiant Prince greatly withstood Popery hee much fauoured and defended Wickliffe and so did diuers Noble-men insomuch that M. Wickliffe and others preached against the Church of Rome the Pope and his Prelates doing what they could were not able to hurt him After the death of King Edward he was greatly supported by the Londoners and so escaped the hands of his aduersaries still proclaiming the holy and heauenly doctrine of the Gospel against the Romish Antichrist It pleased God by his preaching and by his bookes to giue light to many in the Land sundry were put to death The Lord Cobham of whom the Lord Cobham was one and diuers fled out of the Land because they would not deny the truth which they had learned of him That Popish Councell of Constance fortie one yeares after his death condemned his doctrine and caused his bones to be digged vp and burned And as Wickliffes doctrine tooke place heere in England and spread farre so were some of his Workes carried into Bohemia where they did more preuaile Iohn Husse for about the yeare 1410. rose Iohn Husse who taught in Bohemia with diuers others the holy Gospell of Iesus Christ which a multitude zealously imbraced and thereupon renounced the Church of Rome He was cited to appeare before the Pope which he auoyded and about the yeare 1414. hee was charged againe to appeare then he was excommunicated and much molestation followed but he continued a faithfull witnesse of Christ and openly impugned the Romish Church and Synagogue vntill the Councell of Constanoe where he was condemned as an heretike Hierome of ' Prage and burned In the same Councell Hierome of Prage a worthy seruant of Christ for resisting the Romish Harlot was condemned and burned These men were put to death but Antichrist and all his power could not roote out the Gospel in Bohemia God raised them vp a valiant Captaine Iohn Zisca Iohn Zisca and they put to flight great armies of the Papists that came against them About this time there followed great persecutions in England and many were put to death whom they called Lolards Veselus Gronigensis God also raised vp one Veselus Gronigensis he was so worthy a man that hee was called Lux mundi the light of the world He disputed mightily boldly against Popery and proued their doctrine false and wicked and that the Popes Keyes doe not open but shut heauen Gates This man ended his daies in the yeere of Christ 1499. Sauonarola In the yeare 1500. Hieronomus Sauonarola a Monke in Italie with two other Friers Dominicke and Siluester Dominicke and Siluester were condemned to ●eath at Florence they taught and maintained against the Popish doctrine the things which we doe now 4 And thus hauing slaine and put to death all within the Romish iurisdiction that did any way gaine say them The two witnesses are both slaine they haue now gotten all in quiet possession leauing none that would not be conformable to Antichrists lore And this is it which Saint Augustine did find by the Scriptures the great Antichrist should bring to passe as may plainely appeare by these his words For that wee beleeue that Antichrist shall come vnto such an height of vaine-glory it shall be lawfull for him to doe such things both towards all men and also towards the Saints of God that many weake men shall thinke God hath forsaken the care of the world And also wee see that prophesie heere fully verified in the 13. chapter of the Reuelation which saith thus of the Romish spirituall gouernour He caused that as many as would not worship the Image of the beast should be killed That is all that would not be conformable to al the old Heathenish ordinances set vp againe by the Pope and preach and professe the same should be killed So that herein also is fulfilled that prophesie in the eleauenth chapter of the same booke concerning the killing the two witnesses whom the tenth verse of the same chapter declareth The 9. and 10. verses sheweth that by the 2. Witnesses are meant all the Preachers that should vex Antichrists vvhol● kingdom which in the sixt verse of the 14. chap. are included in the person of one Angell with all other throghout Christendome should vexe Antichrists whole kingdome for which cause hee should slay them But whereas Bellarmine would haue them to be onely two persons and that they should containe themselues within that one nation of the Iewes the Text is plaine to the contrarie in that it saith And they of the people and kinreds and tongues and Gentiles shall see their corpes three dayes and an halfe and shall not suffer their carkeises to be put in graues and they that dwell on the earth shall reioyce ouer them and be glad and send gifts one to another for these two Prophets vexed them that dwelt on the earth Now in that the text declareth that the two witnesses were slaine among the Gentiles in diuers nations of the earth and that those nations euery where saw their dead corpes lie among them which they counted not worthie to be buried in Christian mens moulde as they call it it is cleare they were not two persons but all those Preachers which euery where bare witnesse to the truth of the two Testaments whereby they vexed Antic●rist and the Antichristians wheresoeuer they did inhabite vpon the face of the whole earth 5 But now in that it is said They lay dead three dayes and an halfe and in the words following After three dayes and an halfe the spirite of life comming from God shall enter into them and they shall stand vpon their feete This is to be vnderstood of the time from the killing the last of the witnesses to the rising againe of the first of them and not of the 1260. dayes the whole time of Antichrists reigne mentioned in the third verse of the 11. chapter of the Reuelation as some doe vnderstand it for it is very absurd to say that the witnesses should lie dead during the whole time of their prophecying and yet prophecie too Now for that we finde that the next that rose after their death to oppose themselues against
horrible blasphemer that will call it The most auncient true and holy Catholique religion Againe forasmuch as the Apostle Saint Paul 2. Thessalon 2. declareth that the comming of Antichrist shall be with great signes and wonders yea so great and wonderfull that as our Sauiour Christ saith Matthew 24. If it were possible they should deceiue the very Elect. Hee therefore that will say the Church of Rome must needes be the true Church because shee worketh miracles is a most horrible blasphemer Miracles are wrought in the Church of Rome by the spirits of Diuels as appeareth in the 16. chapter and 14. verse of the Reuelation Therefore miracles are not alwayes a true note of the true Church And this appeareth also in the thirteenth chapter of Deuteronomy where we may see that a most vile kinde of people euen such as God abhorred wrought miracles to draw others to their religion And Saint Paul also declareth 2. Thessalon 2. verse 10. that Antichrist shall worke his miracles among them that perish therefore miracles are not alwayes a true note of the true Church Againe our Sauiour Christ Matthew 7.22 declareth that at the day of Iudgement certaine Christian Ministers that were wont to confirme their doctrine by miracles when they shall see themselues cast out to be damned with reprobates they will admire and say thus to Christ Lord Lord haue we not by thy Name prophecied and by thy Name cast out Diuels and done many great workes And then saith Christ I will professe to them I neuer knew you depart from me yee that worke iniquitie Popish Ministers worke miracles our Ministers worke none they themselues therefore shall be iudges in this case to which of these sort of Ministers this Scripture may iustly be applyed Certainely the greatest iudgement that God doth lay vpon men in this life is to blinde their vnderstanding with Poperie for then they are willing to receiue any errour and to reiect the truth to be marked with the marke of the Beast and to receiue the print of his name and to perish with the Beast and the false Prophet as it is most certaine they shall For thus it is written in the nineteenth chapter of the Reuelation verse 20. But the Beast was taken and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him whereby he deceiued them that receiued the Beasts marke and them that worshipped his image These both were aliue cast into a lake of fire burning with brimstone Therefore to conclude this I say to all those that haue receiued the marke of the Beast in their forehead or on their hand that is they that haue outwardly professed with their mouthes and gestures and those also that haue defended by Armes written Bookes wrought Miracles or any way laid to their helping hand to do any thing whereby the Popes kingdome and state is maintained Damnation shall be their end For as the Angell of God in the foureteenth chapter of the same booke 9.10 and 11. verses saith If any man worship the Beast and his Image and receiue his marke in his forehead or on their hand the same shall drinke of the wine of the wrath of God yea of the pure wine which is powred into the Cup of his wrath and he shal be termented in fire and brimstone before the holie Angells and before the Lambe and the smoake of their torment shall ascend euermore and they shall haue no rest day nor night which worship the Beast and his image and whosoeuer receiueth the print of his name That is whosoeuer is content to be called by any such name as whereby he may be knowne to be the Popes faithfull subiect Therefore I aduertise them all in the name of God that they receiue his fatherly admonitions and call to minde how louingly the Lord in the fourth verse of the eighteenth chapter of the same Booke calleth his Elect out of Babylon that they be not partakers of her sinnes lest they should also receiue of her plagues As for those that regard not this louing fauour of God but will notwithstanding abide in her still and goe on with her in her abhominations let them goe and doe what they will He that is vniust saith the Lord in the 22. chapter let him be vniust still and he that is filthy let him be filthie still and hee that is righteous let him be righteous still and he that is holy let him be holy still And behold I come shortly and my reward is with mee to giue to euery man as his worke shall be ¶ The Titles demonstrating the seuerall points contained in each of the Chapters 1 CErtaine Chapters contayning the summe and substance of the Christian Churches confutations of the Popish or Antichristian Churches errours heresies and blasphemies The first whereof tendeth to resolue all men that notwithstanding both Papists and Protestants professe but one God one faith one Baptisme and one Lord Iesus Christ that yet there is so great a difference in the manner of their profession that it is not possible that they both should be combined and conioyned together to make one and the same true Church of Christ 2 An answere to tenne seuerall Obiections for the clearing the Pope from being Antichrist whereof Bellarmine is supposed to be the originall authour 3 That Christian Rome now in her latter dayes is that Babylon the seate of Antichrist which the Angell in the 17 chapter of the Reuelation calleth the mother of whoredomes and abominations of the earth And which the other Angel in the 18. chapter saith is fallen and become the habitation of Diuels and holde of all fowle spirits and a cage of euery vncleane and hatefull bird and out of which the Lord from Heauen calleth all his Elect lest they should be partakers of her sinnes and consequently of her plagues 4 That the Popish Church is the same idolatrous Church yet professing Christ which Saint Iohn in his 13. and 17. chapters of the Reuelation sheweth to be the Church of Antichrist 5 That for the first sixe hundred and sixe yeares next after Christ there was no Popish Church neither could be because there was not as yet an vniuersall Pope established in Rome to make it a Popish Church Therefore as no Husband no Wife so no vniuersall Pope no vniuersall spouse of the Popes 6 That in the yeare of Christ 607. the Church of Poperie and the succession of vniuersall Popes first began From whence our Church had her first beginning before Luther and how our Protestant Bishops and Ministers which they haue ordayned haue lawfull callings 7 Their generall Consent ouerthrowne by generall consent of Councels and Fathers 8 That the Apostle Saint Peters authoritie was but the same that the other Apostles were and therefore the Pope cannot iustly claime from him to be called Vniuersall head of all Christian Bishops That the title of Vniuersall Father is forbidden by Christ to be giuen to any but to his owne Father 9 That the true
may be called before the comming of Christ to iudgement yet all men may see plainely that Antichrist is alreadie come and that the Pope and euerie Pope in his time and place is hee Yea this is the Luciferiall aspiring fellow of whose rise and fall their Paracelsus saith * Parasel in his twelfth figured Predi●● on directed to the Pope Oftentimes one doth place himselfe well but it is in vaine except his seat be such as cannot fall together with him that sitteth thereon And behold thou hast lifted vp thy selfe on high but it is not thy place neyther shalt thou abide aboue for thou are a yoake and a burthen vnfit to be borne hence it is holy Father S.P. that thou fallest Thou hast placed thy selfe aboue God and hee shall returne vnto thee the reward thou hast sought to wit worldly glorie and praise which thou hast greedily heaped vpon thine head but as all worldly things doe so shalt thou perish So that who seeth not but that Antichrist is come THE FOVRTH OBIECTION 11 The proper Antichrist by all reason and likelihood must be a Iewe borne and circumcised and will professe at least for a while to keepe the Iewes Sabbath and other Ceremonies of the olde Lawe to draw them after him and they shall accept of him for their Messias as before hath beene shewed out of Christs owne words which they would neuer doe except he were a Iewe both by generation and profession which two things can neyther bee verified of the Popes of Rome to wit that they are eyther Iewes by birth or doe professe the Iewes Doctrine THE ANSWERE 12 Here Christian Reader is a long circumstance including many properties of Antichrist but not so much as any one Scripture or Father to confirme any one point therefore I may sufficiently answere him by bare denying all that he affirmeth and thereupon conclude that by all reason and likelihood Antichrist shall neither bee a Iew by birth nor yet by profession but a Gentile and a Romane Howbeit for as much as bare negatiues no more disprooue any thing then bare affirmatiues prooue any thing of eyther side the matter shall not so passe First then as concerning Iewish Ceremonies who knoweth not how full of them their Church is as abstenance from certaine meates washings purifyings and sacrificing for sinne As also the retayning certaine ceremoniall garments as the Myter the Cope the Ephod sensing the Priests with Incense holy Oyle holy Bread the Wafer-kake Arons Bell and to many such like too tedious to repeate and for Iewish Doctrine in the maine poynt for the ouerthrow of manssaluation they rightly agree with them who held of iustification by the workes of the Law as they doe Secondly whereas he saith that Antichrist shall be a Iew both by generation and profession it is neither his yea nor my nay that shall serue but wee will haue indifferent Iudges betweene both and who shall these be euen S. Ireneus who they may not refuse and their Abbot Ioacham who they cannot refuse Ireneus out of the number of the Letters Apoccalips 13. saith x Jreneus in his fift Booke and Epistles of Antichrist Antichrist is Zatinos a Roman y Ioacham Abbas Ioacham saith Antichrist long since was borne in Rome and shall be higher aduanced in the Apostolicke Sea So then Antichrist shall be a Romane not a Iew and the same that shall bee exalted into Peters Chaire which he cannot deny to bee the Pope onely therefore he cannot denie the Pope onely to bee the great Antichrist THE FIFT OBIECTION 13 Antichrist when he commeth shall pitch his Kingdome in the Citie of Ierusalem and goe about to restore the Temple of Salomon as is plainely gathered out of Saint Iohns words Apocal. 11. where he saith that the bodies of Henoch and Elias that shall be slaine by him shall lie vnburied in the streetes of the great Citie where their Lord was crucified And the same is deduced out of the same Booke cap. 17. and out of Saint Paules wordes 2. Thessal 2. and by many ancient Writers And how then can the Popes of Rome be Antichrist THE ANSWERE 14 Here now to induce vs not to looke for Antichrist in Rome he telleth vs he shal pitch his kingdome in Ierusalem and for proofe he citeth three places of Scripture the first out of the 8. verse of the 11. chap. of the Reuela which hee abuseth most damnably For all men may see by the Text that the Holy Ghost purposely to preserue the sense put in the middle of the verse these words Which spiritually is called Sodome and Aegypt Which words hee hath left out and cunningly closed vp both ends of the verse together in Roman Letters as though those words had not beene in the originall Tongue which caused mee to haue the Greeke Coppies searched and also to see their owne translation in the Remish Testament in both which these words are extant So that it appeareth that because he saw that neither according to the expresse words of the Text as the Holy Ghost had set them downe nor yet according to the sense the place would proue Ierusalem properly to be the seate of Antichrist he therfore fraudulently omitted those words to frame the rest for his purpose which if he had done the like in the 17. chap. these words A mysterie great Babylon And also these words The seuen heads are seuen Mountaines whereon the woman sitteth all the Diuines in the World could neuer haue found out the great Antichrist nor his seate But the case is cleare that forasmuch as the place where Christ was crucified is there noted to be the seate of Antichrist but in a spirituall signification the Holy Ghost did not meane Ierusalem but Rome because Rome then raigning ouer Ierusalem Christ was put to death in her iurisdiction and by her onely authoritie Iohn 18.31 for Pilate Romes deputie was his Iudge who finding Christ guiltlesse would faine haue shuffeled him off into the Iewes hands to haue condemned him but they refusing said Wee haue no authoritie to put any man to death Whereupon Pilate proceeded and gaue sentence of death vpon him therefore Rome may well be said to be the place where Christ was crucified and the Citie where the Holy Ghost meaneth Antichrist should pitch his Kingdome But they say no and who then shall be Iudge betweene vs that shall that notable Diuine Erasmus who saith thus of Rome z Erasmus vpon the 11. chap. of the Reuela This Citie is in sigure and similitude the Citie of Ierusalem 15 Secondly Sect. 2 out of the same verse he would proue that Antichrist should goe about to build againe the Temple of Ierusalem in which there is not any one word to be found that doth proue it But this glosse also he setteth vpon the Text to blind the eyes of the ignorant and to make them beleeue that that should be the Temple of God in which S Paul 2 Thessal
2. said Antichrist shall sit as God But I demaund how this can be said to be the Temple of God where God neuer sate ne put his name ne was serued but should be built onely for that great Idol Antichrists vse S. Augustine saith a Augustine de Ciuitate Dei 〈◊〉 20. cap. 19. The Temple of an Idoll or of a Deuill the Apostle would neuer call the Temple of God And therefore seeing as we heard before S. Hierome said that by the Temple is meant the Church this can neither bee that Temple in which S. Paul said Antichrist should sit as God nor Bellarmines Iew be that Antichrist which Saint Paul meant should sit in the Temple of God Now therefore the question is whether the Pope of Rome be hee which S. Paul said should sit as God in the Temple of God exalting himselfe aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped They say no wee say yea and who then shall determine the matter that shall foure of their owne side Bernard Ioacham Abbas Paracelsus and Auentine Bernard bewailing the state of the Church vnder the Popes of his time saith b Bernard Serm. 6. in Psalm 91. There remayneth nothing now but that the man of sinne bee reuealed euen the sonne of perdition which is not onely changed into an Angel of Light but is exalted aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped Ioacham sheweth plainely in diuers places of his Writings c Ioacham in his Commentarie vpon Jeremie besides other places in diuers of his Predictions That hee it is which exalteth himselfe aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped which is called holy Lord and most holy Pope Their Paracelsus wrote thus to the Pope d Paracelsus in his 12. sigured Prediction Behold thou hast lifted vp thy selfe on high but it is not thy place neither shalt thou abide aboue And a little after Thou hast placed thy selfe aboue God Their writer Auentine saith thus of the Pope and euery particular of them e Auentine in his Chron. printed at Ingolstade anno 1554. They sit in the Temple of God and they bee exalted aboue all that is worshipped Hee which is the seruant of seruants doth couet to be Lord of Lords as if he were God He speaketh great things as if he were God He changeth Lawes he establisheth his owne he robbeth he spoyleth he couseneth he slayeth that wicked man whom commonly they call Antichrist in whose forehead is a name written a name of Blasphemie I am God I cannot erre He sitteth in the Temple of God and beareth rule farre and wide And thus we see the matter determined by these foure vnpartiall Iudges and the question fully resolued that the Pope is that great Antichrist the Man of Sinne which S. Paul fore-told should Sit as God in the Temple of God exalting himselfe aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped And this may also suffice for the answering the third place which hee citeth out of that 2 Thes 2. to haue proued the seat of Antichrist to be Ierusalem Now to the second place The second place which hee citeth is the seuenteenth Chapter of the Reuelation then which he could not haue brought a more plainer place to proue the contrarie For in that the Angel calleth that Citie which he there speaketh of The great Citie which raigneth ouer the Kings of the earth He did not onely cleare Ierusalem for that it neuer raigned ouer the Kings of the earth but also certifieth vs that he meant Rome because Rome onely raigned ouer the Kings of the earth and the Emperour of Rome was then Emperour of the World Againe for as much as the Angel noteth out that Citie which S. Iohn there speaketh of by seauen Hills whereon it is built He not only cleared Ierusalem but also assureth vs that he meant Rome And all that are of any reading doe know that Ierusalem was neuer described by seauen Hils and that Rome and none other City in all the world is so described as Rome is by the names of these Hils Capitolinus Palatinus Auentinus Cicilius Scuen Hills Exquilinus Veminalis and Quinalis So that forasmuch as that Citie mentioned in the seauenteenth Chapter is distinguished from Ierusalem by those two speciall notes namely by raigning ouer the Kings of the earth and by being built vpon seauen Hils it is cleare without all contradiction that Rome onely is that place where the great Antichrist should pitch his Kingdome and consequently that the spirituall gouemour thereof and none other is he But they say no and who then shall be ludge betweene vs that shall their Abbot Ioacham Erasmus and their Bishop Cataldus Finius Ioacham writing vpon that seauenteenth Chapter of the Reuelation saith f Joacham The verie Text it selfe doth teach that the Woman begilded with gold and which committeth spirituall fornication with the Princes of the earth is the verie Church of Rome Erasmus writing also vpon the same Chapter saith g ●rasmus Sect. 3. These Hills agree with the hills of Rome Againe The woman in the great Citie is he which hath exalted himselfe for a Bishop ouer all Bishops and that raigneth ouer Emperours and Kings sitting also in the place of Christ And in the Chapter going before thus h Erasmus That beast of Rome of whom we spake before is the verie right Antichrist which worketh against the Gospel of Christ Cataldus saith i Cataldus Bishop of Trent in a Prophesic of his Rome is Babylon the damned pit of Priests And how then can Bellarmine with any credite or shew of truth say that Antichrist shall pitch his Kingdome in Ierusalem or that the Pope is not he THE SIXT OBIECTION 17 Three principall heads of Antichrists deuillish Doctrine when he commeth are plainely gathered out of holy Scripture The first that he shall denie Iesus to be Christ 1. Iohn 2. cap. 22. and consequently deny Baptisme and all other Sacraments and Doctrines brought in by Christ The second that he shall teach himselfe to be Christ and the Iewes shall beleeue him Iohn 5. The third that he shall affirme himselfe to be God and so require to be adored for God 2 Thessal 2.4 But the Popes of Rome doe not teach these poynts of Doctrine hetherto and therefore cannot be Antichrist THE ANSWERE 18 The former Chapter plainely proueth the Popes of Rome to teach all these three poynts of Doctrine and therefore Bellarmine himselfe must graunt the Pope and euery Pope in his time and place to be that Antichrist THE SEVENTH OBIECTION 19. Againe the Scripture teacheth vs that Antichrist when he commeth shall doe many wonderfull miracles in the sight of men Matth. 24. and 2. Thessal 2. and some of those miracles are specified Apoc. 13. to wit that he shall make fire descend from heauen and the Image of a beast to speake and saine himselfe to die and rise againe But these miracles no Pope hitherto hath
Hell and his Sonne of Perdition the Pope of Rome with what impudencie can Bellarmine say the Pope cannot be Antichrist But now Christian Reader whereas they will haue their Church to be the true Christian Church because she worketh Miracles and our Church the counterfeit because she worketh none it is cleare wee could not iustly prooue their Church to be the Church of Antichrist did shee not worke miracles 2. Thessal 2. Antichrist worketh miracles For wee finde 2. Thessalonians 2. where Saint Paul speaking of Antichrist the head of their Church sayth thus of him Euen he whose comming is by the working of Sathan with all power and signes and lying wonders and in all deceiueablenesse of vnrighteousnesse among them that perish because they receiued not the loue of the truth that they might be saued And therefore God shall send them strong delusions that they should beleeue lies that all they might be damned which beleeued not the truth but had pleasure in vnrighteousnesse 25 At the day of Iudgement Christian Reader when many of those that professe themselues Christians shall see themselues cast out to be damned will obiect against Christ and say Matth. 7. Lord Lord haue wee not by thy name prophesied and by thy name cast out diuells and by thy name done many great workes Yet for all their miracles done in his name seeing they were done but to confirme false doctrine whereby soules were drawne from Christ to Antichrist Christ sayth he will then say thus vnto them Depart from me ye workers of iniquity I know you not Therefore it was not without cause that Saint Augustine opposed himselfe against such miracle-mongers saying m Augustine in Iohn tractat 13. Matt. 24. Against these Mongers of miracles my God hath armed me saying In the latter dayes there shall rise vp false prophets working signes and wonders to deceiue the Elect of God if it be possible True it is as Saint Chrysostome saith n Chrysost in Matt. Hom. 49. In olde time meaning in the time of the Apostles it was knowne by Miracles who were the true Christians and whom the false but now the working of miracles being taken away is rather found among them that be false Christians Againe to fore-warne vs of the latter age of the world to take heed of being deluded by workers of Miracles he sayth o Chrysostome in Matt. 49. hom In the end of time power shall be giuen to the diuell to worke profitable signes and Miracles so that then we cannot know the Ministers of Christ by that they worke profitable Miracles but by that they worke no Miracles at all To conclude this point Saint Augustine reproo●ing those of his time that would not beleeue without Miracles sayd p August De ciuitate Dei lib. 22. cap. 8. Whosoeuer yet requireth Miracles to bring him to the Faith is himselfe a great Miracle that the world beleeuing remayneth still in vnbeliefe Now therefore what vse can there be of Miracles among those which generally beleeue in Christ but to drawe them to a new christ euen to Antichrist as all men may apparently see Popish Miracles wholy tendeth vnto THE EIGHT OBIECTION 26 Antichrist when he commeth shall reigne but three yeares and an halfe as is gathered by the auntient Writers out of the Prophet Daniel 7. and 12. and out of the twelfth chapter of the Apocalypse where it is sayd That he shall reigne a time times and halfe a time for so Saint Iohn himselfe interpreteth the matter chap. 11. and 13. saying it shall be for forty two moneths which make iust three yeares and an halfe but the Popes of Rome haue reigned for more ages then these are yeares and consequently cannot be Antichrist THE ANSVVERE 27 Heere now by the time of Antichrists reigne hee would prooue the Pope not to be Antichrist which hee might very well haue done if those three yeares and an halfe had beene to be vnderstood of our common yeeres but that cannot possibly be for that so many so mighty and so marueilous are the Acts which Antichrist shal effect as that it is not possible they should be effected in three Reuel 9.11 2 Thes 2.4 nor yet in three hundred of our yeares and an halfe For amongst many other things which would be ouer-tedious heere to recite he shall attaine to be made Ring of the Clergie and this is proued in the 9. chapter of the Reuelation 11. verse and 2. Thessal 2. chap. 4. verse and by these words of Gregory the Great q Gregory lib. 4. Epist 34. Antichrist is the King of pride r Lib. 4.38 Reuelat. 17. cap. 2 verse and 18 verse The vniuersall Bishop of Bishops Secondly he shall bring a great part of the Christian world into subiection to his Heathenish Idolatrous and Antichristian Religion and almost all true Religion to be corrupted by his power And this is proued in the seauenteenth chapter of the Reuelation verse 2 and chap. 18. verse 3. and by these expresse words of Saint Hierome ſ Hierome to Algasia Antichrist shall cause Religion to be subiect to his power Thirdly hee shall attaine to a superioritie ouer the kingdome of all the kingdoms of the world which was the Romain Empire and this is proued in the thirteenth chapter of the Reuelation and by these words of Saint Chrysostome t Chrisostome in his 4. Hom. vpon the 2 Thes 2. cap. When that the Empire shall stand voyd Antichrist shall inuade the state and shall labour to pull vnto himselfe the Empire both of God and man and also by these words of Saint Augustine v Augustine vpon the 9. Psal It is written of Antichrist hee shall conquer all Kings and obtayne the kingdome himselfe alone So that by these three accomplishments omitting all the rest wee see the Pope is sufficiently proued to be Antichrist And whether it be a thing likely that a new vpstart fellow a Iew of but three yeares standing should attaine to so great power and dignitie in three of our yeares and an halfe whereby he might be proued Antichrist let all that are not out of their right wittes be Iudges betweene vs. But forasmuch as the Pope himselfe did not accomplish so mightie matters in three of our yeares and an halfe we must search further to see what kinde of yeares the holy Ghost meant 28 Andrew Osiander writing vpon this point affirmeth them to be Angels yeares which the Angell in the twelfth chapter of the Reuelation calleth A Time times Reuelat. 12. and halfe a time which some doe call Propheticall yeares because the Prophets in times past did vse to count by them which are to be searched out by Angels dayes and moneths Now an Angels day as we finde in the ninth chapter of Daniel Angels daies and moneths is a yeare for there both in the seuentie weekes and sixty two weekes a day is a yeare And euen after this manner is the spirituall counting
as the mouth of a Lyon The spirituall Beast is onely said to haue two Hornes like the Lambe Vnder the first Beast Verse 11 was our Sauiour Christ and all his Apostles put to death as also many thousand Christians after them and almost all the Bishops of Rome for the space of neere three hundred yeares This corporall Beast was Heathenish Rome and Regiment which the Papists would make the World to beleeue the Angel in the seauenteenth Chapter onely called Babylon 2 The first Beast wee see is set forth in a visible shape to our corporall eyes the second in no shape therefore to be discerned with spirituall eyes onely it is said to haue two Hornes like the Lambe that is to say to seeme to haue the two Testaments the Law of God and Gospel of Christ to be the onely strength of his Kingdome and Priesthood as Christ himselfe had By which it is certaine that by this second Beast so resembling Christ is meant Christian Rome and her Regiment Now the first beast they confesse was well worthie the name of Babylon for that it did as well resemble old Babylon in tyranny Idolatrie and all manner of abominations as if it had beene the verie same therefore if wee can prooue that the second beast became so liuely to resemble the first beast as the first beast did the first Babylon then the case will stand cleare that the second beast is as well worthie the same name Now for proofe hereof what better Author can wee bring then the Angel himselfe who of the second beast saith thus * Some of our Writers haue doubted that because it is said he did all that the first beast did before him or in his sight that this cannot be meant of the Popes spirituall Regiment but the 20. verse of the 19. Chap. will shew them it is And he did all that the first beast could doe before him and he caused the Earth and them that dwelt therein to worship the first Beast that is commaunded all vpon the earth within his Dominions to lay to their helping hands with him to bring the Christian state into the first beasts forme and order and also to bring all the inhabitants within his iurisdiction to conforme themselues in reuerence and humble obedience vnto the same and so to worship the first beast in honouring his old Heathenish Ordinances by which it is without all contradiction the second beast is no whitlesse worthie the same name 3 But yet for more plainer proofe that by the second beast is meant the spirituall Regiment of Christian Rome let vs heare how Erasmus doth interpret those words of the Angel in the thirteenth Chapter his words bee these a Erasmus vpon the 13. Chap. 5. Sect. When as the Roman Kingdome after the time of Iulianus began to be diuided into East and West and to diminish for a season then began a new Roman Kingdome and iurisdiction namely the Popes pompe And a little after b Jbidem This Kingdome of the Papists tooke vpon it all the power of the first beast the Roman Emperour and compelled the Christians to Idolatrie and seruice of false gods vnder a pretence of honouring Christ and Saints By which it is most apparant that by the second beast is meant the Popish Christian Regiment of Rome And this is very sufficient for the prouing that by the two beasts in the thirteenth Chapter is meant the Heathenish Roman Regiment and the Popish Christian Regiment Now it requireth that we proue also whether by the beast mentioned in the seauenteenth Chapter which the Angel called Babylon the Mother of whoredomes and abominations of the earth bee meant Heathenish Rome and her Regiment vnder the Pagan Emperours or of Christian Rome and of her Regiment vnder the Popes 4 Erasmus hauing discoursed at large of the matters contained in the thirteenth fourteenth fifteenth and sixteenth Chapters comming to the seauenteenth Chapter he saith thus c Erasmus vpon then 7. chap. Sect. 1. One of the seauen Angels which spake of the second Kingdome and of the iurisdiction of Rome and of the beast with two Hornes commeth now againe and will speake more plainely So that he giueth vs to vnderstand The spirituall beast in the 13. chap. and that in the 17. chap. are one that the same beast in the thirteenth Chapter and that in the seuenteenth Chapter are both one Now we heard before by what sufficient arguments hee proued that by the second beast was meant Christian Rome and her Regiment but let vs also see by what inducements he is lead to affirme that that beast in the seauenteenth Chapter is the same The first motiue I take to bee this namely for that the same beast which the Angel in the fift verse called Babylon the Mother of whordomes and abominations of the Earth in the 8. verse he saw he had expounded to Iohn to be a Citie Euident notes to proue Christian Rome Babylon and in the ninth verse to be that onely Citie that compasseth within her seauen speciall Hills which was sufficient to perswade him that by the beast in the seauenteenth Chapter the Angel meant Rome Secondly to induce him to vnderstand that the Angel meant Christian Rome he saw the Angel spake of Romes estate in her latter daies for that so soone as he had declared vnto Iohn the beast to bee a Citie and with one and the same breath to adde these words which raigneth ouer the Kings of the Earth And also for that he saw him to preuent Iohn before in the twelfth Verse for vnderstanding them of Kings in his dayes in saying thus of them Which yet haue not receiued a kingdome but shall receiue power at an houre with the beast As also for that by these very words he declared vnto him that he did not speake of the first beast because that beast was then in his full power and raigned ouer both Iewes and Gentiles 5 Thirdly for that hee saw the Angell had declared vnto Iohn that those Kings which afterwards should rise vp with the beast should continue with her to the end of her dayes and should grow into so great hatred against her that they should pursue her to her vtter destruction For as in the twelfth verse he described those Kings by the similitude of tenne hornes so in the sixteenth and seuenteenth verses hee said vnto Iohn thus of those hornes And the tenne Hornes which thou sawest vpon the beast Reuelat. 17. are they that shall hate the Whore and shall make her desolate and naked and shall eate her flesh and burne her with fire for God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will and to doe with one consent for to giue their kingdome vnto the beast vntill the words of God be fulfilled Fourthly the fourth verse of the seauenteenth Chapter inforced him to vnderstand the beast which the Angel there calleth Babylon the Mother of whordomes and abominations of the Earth to
but saue his life For if Saint Paul should haue spoken those words to haue maintained a place of purging sinne then should hee haue vtterly confounded all his owne doctrine throughout all his Epistles where he so laboureth to proue that our sins are wholly purged by the bloud of Christ onely For first in the third Chapter to the Romans he saith thus of Christ Whom God hath set forth to be a reconciliation through faith in his bloud Rom. 3.25 Rom. 5.9 And in his 5. Chapter thus Being now iustified by his bloud we shall be saued from wrath through him And in the first to the Colossians thus Colos 1.13 Who hath deliuered vs from the power of darkenesse and hath translated vs into the Kingdome of his deare Sonne in whom wee haue redemption through his bloud that is the forgiuenesse of sinnes And in the same Chapter Verse 19.20 For it pleased the Father that in him all fulnesse should dwell and by him to reconcile all things vnto himselfe and to set at peace through the bloud of his Crosse both the things in earth and the things in Heauen And for a full conclusion of this point namely that wee are absolutely made perfect by Christs death and bloud he saith verse 22. In the body of his flesh Verse 22. through death he made vs vnblameable and without fault in the sight of God Now then this being true to wit that we are fully and wholly reconciled to God by faith in the bloud of Christ and our sinnes cleane washed away thereby so as that we are made vnblameable and without fault in Gods sight how absurd had it beene for Saint Paul to haue taught any other kinde of purgation Therefore it is cleare that those his words in the third Chapter to the Corinthians cannot be vnderstood of Purgatory 9 Furthermore as touching the truth of this doctrine namely that our sinnes are washed and cleansed onely by the bloud of Christ Saint Paul is not singular in this point for as we heard before out of the seauenth Chapter of the Reuelation that it was confirmed to Saint Iohn by the Angell of God from Heauen so likewise whosoeuer will reade the first Chapter of that Booke shall finde these words set downe concerning Christ Vnto him that loued vs Reuel 1.5.6 and washed vs from our sinnes in his bloud and made vs Kings and Priests vnto God euen his Father be glory and dominion for euermore Amen And in the 1 Chapter to the Hebrewes thus Heb. 1.3 Who being the brightnesse of the glory and the ingraued forme of his person and bearing vp all things by his mighty Word hath by himselfe purged our sinnes And in the first Epistle and the first Chapter of Saint Iohn thus Iohn 1. Epist 1. chap. 7. The bloud of Iesus Christ cleanseth vs from all sinne Wherefore then seeing that of the bond slaues of Sathan we are made Kings and Priests to God by the bloud of Christ and that Christ of himselfe and by himselfe hath so purged our sinnes as whereby wee are made vnblameable and without fault in Gods sight why should we nay rather how dare we beleeue it is done by Purgatory Againe seeing the holy Ghost saith By the bloud of Christ Verse 9. wee are cleansed from all sinne and in the verses following From all vnrighteousnesse And that Saint Paul saith Titus 2. Titus 2.14 He redeemed vs from all iniquitie why should we suffer our selues to be so deluded to thinke that there is any sinne vnrighteousnesse or iniquity at all left to be purged by their imagined Purgatorie or that there can be any vse at all thereof or be any such place 10 Saint Cyprian speaking of the matter of our purging saith thus m Cyprian of Christs passion Thy bloud O Lord seeketh no reuenge thy bloud washeth our sinnes and pardoneth our trespasses Also to shew that there can be none other purgation nor any place for the purging of sinne after this life he saith else-where n In his first Treatise against Demetrian After we be once departed out of this life there is no more place of repentance there is no more effect or working of satisfaction life is here either lost or wonne Also to the very same effect are those words of Saint Augustine o August vpon the 25. Psalme Let onely the price of the bloud of my Lord auaile me to the perfection of my deliuery And in another place thus p In his 10. Booke 22 Ch. of the City of God The victory is gotten in his name that hath taken man vpon him and that hath liued without sinne that in him and through him being both the Priest and the sacrifice remission and forgiuenesse of sinnes should be obtained and giuen that is to say saith he by the Mediatour of God and man that man Iesus Christ by whom the purging of our sinnes being made we are reconciled vnto God Well then if onely the bloud of Christ be auaileable to the perfection of our deliuerance from sinne and that the purgation thereof be so effectually made thereby as that our sinnes are washed away and all our trespasses pardoned and wee reconciled vnto God in this life and that here in this life euerlasting life is either lost or wonne and that after this life repentance comes too late and no satisfaction can be made to what end should God prouide a place after this life for the better perfecting of our saluation But therefore it is which Saint Augustine in another place saith q In his 54. Epistle to Macidonius There is no other place to correct our manners and conditions but onely in this life euery man shall haue that which he hath purchased vnto himselfe in this World And what vse then can there be of Purgatory Saint Ignatius saith r Ignatius in his 6. Epistle Alwayes reason requireth that whiles we haue space and time we should amend and correct our faults whiles in this life wee haue occasion giuen of repentance for it is truly said after death there is neither time nor place to confesse our sinnes And why then should wee beleeue that there is both place and time Saint Ambrose saith s Ambrose vpon good death He that here in this life receiueth not remission of his sinnes shall not be there in the life to come meaning Heauen Also Saint Hierome speaking of the same point saith thus t Hierome in his Booke vpon the 95. of Esay He that doth not obtaine remission of his sinnes whiles he yet liueth in the body doth perish to God and abideth to himselfe vnto euerlasting damnation And what auaileth Purgatory after this life then Saint Chrisostome likewise speaking of the same point saith u Chrisost in his 2. Sermon of Lazarus Whiles we be yet here we haue a godly hope but as soone as we are departed hence it lieth no more in vs for to repent nor
who as appeareth euidently was called of the most godly Prince Constantine God seeing it is manifest God cannot bee iudged of men Another saith r Baldus in c. Eccles vt tit pend The Pope may doe all things aboue Law contrary to Law and without Law Moreouer ſ Bonis Distinct. 40. Si Papa If the Pope be found to neglect the saluation of his brethren vnprofitable and slacke in his office silent in that which is good hurtfull to himselfe and all others yea though hee leade with him innumerable soules by heapes to the diuell of hell yet may no mortall man finde fault with him or presume to reprooue him for so doing For as another saith t C. inter in corpor de translat Praela car Paris in conc 63. num 162. vol. 4. Those things hee doth hee doth them as God So that they say little lesse of him then what Saint Paul Rom. 9. saith of God Who art thou that pleadest against God Or that which Iob saith of God chap. 9. Who shall say vnto him What dost thou 5 Thirdly in authorising his Decrees equall with Gods saying thus v Alexander to Philip King of France That which the Pope doth is to be receiued as Canonicall Againe * Adrian caus 25. q●●st i.q. genera●● It is not lawfull to adde or diminish any thing the Pope hath done Also x Ibidem Whosoeuer shall violate or break the Popes Decrees shall be accursed Againe y Ibidem Who so offendeth in breaking the Popes Lawes shall neuer be forgiuen And lastly z Her●●ans de po●●●● papa cap. 23. The Pope is by power and vertue the whole Church wee may not swarue from his iudgement neyther to the right hand nor to the left * Iara in Deut. cap. 17. Though hee tell thee that thy right hand is thy left or that thy left hand is thy right hand such a sentence must bee held for good Thus are his Lawes in their account like those of which Christ speaketh in the Gospell Matthew 5. Whosoeuer shall breake one of these least commaundements and teach men so hee shall bee called the least in the Kingdome of Heauen 6 Fourthly in subiecting Gods word and holy Scriptures vnto his censure as thus a Summa Angelan Dist. Pap. The Pope may dispence for any Commaundement of the Old or New Testament b 6. q. 1. Quicunque in glossa The Popes priuiledges may be graunted against the Lawe of God c Nicola Cusan ad Bohaemos epist. 2. There be no commaundements of Christ in the Gospell but such onely as are taken and holden by the Church d Syluester Prierias contra Lutherium The doctrine of the Scriptures take their force and authority of the Pope and his doctrine e Ibidem The authority of the Church of Rome and of the Popes is aboue the authority of the Scriptures Lastly f Pighnus in contro De Ecclesia The Scriptures are a nose of waxe a dead letter and dumbe Iudges Whereupon another sayth g John Maria verracties Editius est Anno 1561. Wee most humbly confesse that the authority of the Church is aboue the authority of the Gospell 7 So that by all these testimonies out of the mouthes of their grauest Writers wee see plainely that the Romish church holdeth and esteemeth the Pope to be not a terrestiall Good but rather a celestiall God For in that they will haue him called God in a diuine sense and taken not for a pure man but for a true God and will haue him to be worshipped with diuine honours as God and to haue power in heauen earth and hell ouer Angells Diuells and men and to be able to deliuer from hell and to giue the kingdome of heauen and free him from all censure and controlement of any and make his Decrees not onely equall with Gods but aboue them they will haue him to bee a celestiall god euen in the highest degree For it is cleare that his Lawes and decrees that are the most highest aboue all lawes and decrees is the most highest aboue all gods And heerein they prooue him to be indeede that great Antichrist The man of sinne mentioned by Saint Paul 2 Thes 2. 2. Thessal 2. That should sit as God in the temple of God shewing himselfe that hee is God and exalting himselfe aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped That is not onely aboue all Princes and Maiestrates which in some sense are called Gods but aboue the three persons vnto whom all diuine worship and honour is only due and so we may conclude but they say no and who then shall be Iudge betweene vs that shall these sixe vnpartiall Iudges Ioacham Abbas Iraeneus Anselmus Saint Hierome Gregory the Great and Erasmus Ioacham saith h Joacham Abbas Hee it is that exalteth himselfe aboue all that is called God or that is worshipped which is called Holy Lord and most Holy Pope Iraeneus sayth i Iraeneus lib. 5. lest chapter saue one Antichrist notwithstanding he be but a slaue yet he will be worshipped as if he were God and proclaimed as a King Anselmus sayth k Anselmus 2. Thessal 2 Antichrist shall faine himselfe to be holy that hee may deceiue men vnder the colour of holinesse Yea and hee shall call himselfe God and shall cause himselfe to be worshipped and shall promise the Kingdome of heauen Saint Hierome sayth l Hierom. in Zachar. 11. This shepheard is so wicked that hee is not called a worshipper of Idols but an Idol it selfe because he calleth himselfe God and will be worshipped of all men Gregory the Great sayth m Gregory in his 25. booke vpon the 34. 14. chapter of Iob. Whereas hee is a damned man and not a spirit liuing he faineth himselfe to be God To conclude Erasmus sayth thus of the Pope n Erasmus vpon the 16. hap of the R●u lat 2. Sect. That beast at Rome of whom we spake before is the very right Antichrist which worketh against the Gospell of Christ. And yet for a more full resolution that the Pope is the same great Antichrist which Saint Paul calleth The man of sinne and sonne of perdition that should exalt himselfe aboue God their Saint Hildigard a Nunne o Hildig in her third ●ook the 11. Vision giueth the Pope these very same titles The man of sinne and sonne of perdition And their proph●● Paracelsus in his twelft figured Prediction directed to the Pope prooueth him also to be the same For saith ●●e p Paras 12. Prediction Thou hast lifted thyselfe on high And a little after Thou hast exalted thy selfe aboue God and he shall returne vnto thee the reward thou hast sought Now then whereas some haue doubted whether the Pope be that great Antichrist for that the great Antichrist should come vnto such an exceeding great height of pride and vaine-glory as that none before him could neyther after
in the Romish iurisdiction is that verie same seducing Antichrist Yea doubtlesse the same which not Iewes hereafter but as the middle part of our former Chapter proueth Christians long since haue receiued for their Messias and Sauiour seeking remission of sinnes and euerlasting saluation at his hands And therefore seeing the great Antichrist is a Christian and receyued of Christians for their Messias Bellarmine may verie well say it is not likely that the Iewes vnto whom the verie name of Christians is odious should receiue the Popes for their Messias who carrie the name of Christians nor that they should receiue the great Antichrist for their Sauiour THE THIRD OBIECTION 9. The Doctrine and Gospel of Christ must be first preached to all Nations before the true Antichrist come Matth. 24. and 2. Thes 2. and so the consent of old Doctors vpon the same place doe agree which thing is not yet fulfilled as S. Augustine in his time did largely declare Epist 80. and we also shew in ours much more by the vast infidell Countries daily discouered THE ANSWERE 10. Behold Christian Reader how to shaddow the Pope from being reuealed to be Antichrist he proceedeth in peruerting the Scriptures For whereas in the 24. chap. of S. Matth. ●4 14 Matthew Christ said This Gospel of the Kingdome shall be preached through the whole World for a witnesse vnto all Nations and then shall the end come Hee thus peruerteth both words and sence and saith And then shall Antichrist come And this commeth to passe onely by his misse-vnderstanding these wordes that follow in the Text When yee therefore shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet standing in the holy place c. For this he vnderstandeth to haue beene spoken of Antichrist whereas it is cleare that it is meant of the Idols which the Romans should set vp in the Temple and that Heathenish worship which those Gentiles should spread ouer all Iewrie whereby the Doctrine of the Gospel should be most horribly corrupted immediately after the death of Christ when as the daily Sacrifice should cease according to that Prophesie of Daniel 12.11 And hereof it is which S. Chrisostome saith thus o Chrisost in his 40. Hom. vpon the vnperfect worke of Math. When you shall see the abomination of desolation stand in the holy place that is saith he when you shall see the vngodly heresies which is the armie of Antichrist stand in the holy place of the Church in that time let him that is in Iewrie flee vnto the Hils that is saith he let them that be in Christendome resort vnto the Scriptures And for Antichrist not comming before the Gospel be preached to all Nations that proueth nothing that he is not alreadie come seeing the Gospel hath alreadie beene preached to all Nations For not onely the Apostle S. Paul saith of the Apostles vniuersall preaching Romans 10.18 No doubt their sound went out through all the Earth and their wordes to the ends of the World but they themselues in their Rozarie most euidently declareth that they did preach all the World ouer For there say they Peter first preached in Iewrie then in Syria Antioch and other places and last of all in Italie Andrewe in Achaia Iames the Great in Spaine Iohn in Asia Thomas in India Iames the Lesse in Ierusalem Philip in Phrigia Bartholmewe in Scythia Matthew in Aethiopia Symon in Persia Thadeus in Mesopotamia Matthias in Palestina Paul in most parts of the World Againe he citeth the ● Thessal 2. in which there cannot be found any one word that doth proue his Assertion But this I finde in the 7. verse by the iudgement of Tertullian Saint Ambrose S. Augustine and those wordes of S. Hierome before cited p Hierome vnto Algasia The Roman Emperour which now keepeth all Nations in subiection must first be ouerthrowne and then shall Antichrist come the Fountaine of Iniquitie that the time of Antichrists comming was then when the Emperour of Rome was remoued out of his place to Constantinople and the Empire brought to confusion which time they know as well as wee was betweene the raigne of Augustus and Carolus Magnus For in that 300 and odde yeares space to wit from about the yeare of Christ 500. to 800. by sedition the Empire stood void Palmer as both Euagrius and Palmar witnesseth q Euagrius lib. 2. cap. 16. Chronic. in which compasse of time as Erasmus testifieth * Erasmus vpon the 13. cap. rose vp in Rome that spirituall Beast resembling Christ the Lambe mentioned in the 13. chap. of the Reuelation vnto whom as the Text declareth power was giuen ouer Nations Kingdomes and as the Popes Kallender declareth that by the meanes of Phocas the Emperour which murthered his Predecessour Boniface the third Bishop of Rome of that name obtayned that vniuersall power euen to be called Vniuerfall Bishop and in stead of Christ to be Head of Christs vniuersall Church Therefore we see it euident that in this Boniface was Antichrists first rising But they say no and who then shall bee iudge betweene vs that shall their S. Vincent and the great Bishop of Rome Gregorie Saint r Vincent in 〈◊〉 Treatise of the end of th●●orld Vincent prophecied of the falling from the true Catholick Faith and of the comming of two kindes of Antichrists The one hee called a Pure Antichrist to wit an open professed aduersarie of Christ which all men know is the Turke For he proclaymeth open warre against both sorts of Christians therefore hee calleth him pure because he is without hypocrisie or colour of fayned friendship The other he calleth a Mixed kinde of Antichrist and this shall bee saith he an euill Pope made by a certaine euill Prince of great power who shall place his euill Pope in the field or plaine of the Prouince of Babylon because there shall bee nothing then but confusion vnto this mixed Antichrist saith hee many Princes shall adhere Gregorie when he perceiued by Iohn Bishop of Constantinople that an Vniuersall Bishop should be made in that Moricius the Emperour maintayned him in that vngodly Title of Vniuersall Bishop which he tooke vpon him said he ſ Gregorie in his 34. Epist What else is signified hereby but that the time of Antichrist is at hand t Lib. 4. Epist 38. The King of Pride is at hand and an armie of Priests is prepared which is a wicked and an horrible thing to be spoken And indeed that all men might clearely discerne him when hee was come he thus described him vnto them saying u Ibidem Hee is Antichrist that shall claime to be called Vniuersall Bishop and shall haue a guard of Priests to attend vpon him And about two yeares after Gregories death this Boniface was so exalted Now then forasmuch as all the successours of Boniface from time to time haue claymed and retained both the Title and Dignitie as their right and due though many Nations
who perceiuing that the Church was like to haue a new Husband to wit an Vniuersall Bishop to be made and to become her head in stead of Christ He confessed with teares that the state of the Church was like to fall to ground For said he k Gregorie lib. 4. Epist 52. 55. Seeing the order of Priesthood is falne within it cannot now stand long without And thus much concerning the fall of the Church especially of that part vnder the Patriarkedome of Rome before there was an Vniuersall Pope established in Rome Now it remaineth that wee see how it grew to perfection vnder Vniuersall Popes in these foure principall poynts Doctrine Faith Religion and generall Apostacie Which God willing shall bee made euident by their owne Writers also 13 Touching the first point their Saint Vincent sayth l Vincent in his Treatise of the latter end The religious orders are become vnto mens soules the way of perdition And a little after hee sheweth the reason to bee this For saith he the most part of Preachers preach now adayes not the simplicitie of the Gospell but the subtiltie of Aristotle Their S. Bridgit speaking in the person of Christ saith m Bridgit lib. 4. cap. 133. They annull and make of no effect my Word they affirme and teach their owne lies and denie my truth c. n In lib. 6. of her Reuelation chap. 26. My Word is vnto them intollerable and my wisdome and doctrine in their account but vaine Therefore o Lib. 4. cap. 132 They doe not preach and publish to the people my Word neither doe they teach my doctrine c. p Lib. 6. of her Reuelat. cap. 26. They follow their owne fancie so that their owne inuentions are vnto them a Law c. q Lib. 6. Reuelat cap. 15. They say ●nd doe boast that they vnderstand my Law and yet it is but for the deceiuing of others c. r Lib. 4.132 For of the vpright man they make a wicked man of the simple they make a Deuill And this commeth to passe as then Cardinall Beno sheweth because ſ Beno de vita ges●s Hudeb They are led by the spirit of errour and doctrines of D●u●ls Whereby as their Bishop Corn●lu●s saith t Cornelijorat Trident. The sauour of life is turned to the sauour of death So as their Matthew Paris the Monke saith u Paris in Henrico 2. sub 1160. Whence Christians were wont to fetch the water of Righteousnesse there they finde a poysoned puddle And euen thereby doth their Abbot ●oacham proue the Pope and his Clergie to be that Whore of Babylon mentioned in the seauenteenth Chapter of the Reuelation which offereth to the World the Abomination and Filthinesse of her Fornication in a golden Cup. * Ioacham vpon the 37. chap. Jere. The moderne Vicars of Christ saith he doe neglect Incense and Myrrhe but they seeke after Gold that they may with Babylon the great Ladie of the World fill vnto men Wine in a Golden Cup to infect their followers with their abomination Now therefore I demaund of our Romane Catholickes how it is possible for Doctrine to grow vnto any greater perfection of corruption then to be squared by the spirit of errour and Doctrines of Deuils whereby good men are made wicked men and simple men made Deuils 14 Touching the second poynt namely Faith their Saint Bridgit in her fourth B●oke finding Rome to haue seduced the Romish Church from her primitiue puritie calleth her a wretched and an v● happie Citie And a little after shee saith x Bridgit lib. 4. cap. 30. Maruaile not that I called Rome an vnhappie and a wretched Citie because of the aforesaid abuses and others the like much contrarie to the Statutes of the Primitiue Church Wherefore it is to bee feared lest the Catholike Faith doe shortly sayle Their Saint Hildegard a Nunne hauing in a vision seene the Pope in the shew of a great and vgly Monster and other fearefull sigues ouer the Church of Rome wrote thus of the head thereof y Hildegard in her second booke of her Sciuias The sonne of perdition shall endeuour through a most wicked deceipt to seduce men for a time sweetely and smoothly by making crooked the path-way of the Christian Faith That Astrologian Ruth speaking of the state of the Romish Church when the Pope should be installed in his Seate wrote thus z Ruth in his 3. chap. of his Booke When as he shall enter into his House then shall the Romans stumble in the Faith Their Abbot Ioacham saith a Ioacham vpon the first and second of Ierem. The Pope considereth not in how peruerse a manner the Lyon of Faith is throwne downe And a little after he saith The religious orders doe defile the Faith by their errours teaching peruersly If in the head saith he is not the soundnesse of Faith much lesse is there in the heart the sinceritie of hope and yet further off from the foote is the diligence of doing charitable deedes And albeit the Faith of Rome was of olde published through the whole World yet afterward her Faith hath beene turned into perfidie and heresie Againe speaking of the whole Church of Rome hee saith b Jbidem This is the Synagogue of Sathan and his Seate This is that Figge-tree which is dried vp in the Faith by the meanes of the curse of transgression c. euen the latter Church the Ship of Saint Peter Their Bishop Cornelius saith c Oratio Cornelij Trident. Would to God they were not falne with one consent from Faith to Infidelitie and from Christ to Antichrist To conclude Ioacham yet sheweth of a more admirable perfection of falling from the true Faith in Christ in that he saith d Ioacham vpon the first and second chap. of Ieremie They haue chosen Antichrist for Christ the Deuill for God and Hell for the Kingdome of Heauen Wherefore whether it be possible for men to fall from the Faith in any greater measure let the learned Reader judge 15 Touching the third poynt to wit Religion Their Saint Bernard bewayling the desperate estate of Religion in his time saith e Bernard supra Cant. Ser. 33. gest Hildebrand Behold these times very much defiled with the worke that walketh in darkenesse Woe be to this generation because of the leauen of the Pharises which is hipocrisie If it may be called hypocrisie which is now so rife that it cannot and so shamelesse that it seeketh not to be kept secret A rotten contagion creepeth at this day through the whole body of the Church And a little after The wound of the Church is inward and incarable Their Cardinall Beno saith f Beno Cardinalis de vita gestis Hildeb Their Religion sauoureth nothing but of traiterousnesse and couetousnesse beeing led by the spirit of Errour and Doctrines of Deuils Their S. Elizabeth thus cryeth out against the Romish Clergie
Antichrist and to set vp the Gospell againe in his kingdome was that man of God Luther therefore in him did the two witnesses first begin to rise againe for it is cleare it is not meant that the same should rise againe in their owne persons but that euen as Elias was reuiued in Saint Iohn Baptist not in the same person Luke 1.17 but as Saint Luke saith chap. 1.17 in the same spirit and power so should they after a little moment rise in power and spirit in the persons of others And this first rising was about the yeare of Christ 1520. So that counting from those three last which were put to death in the yeere of Christ Wee had a Church among the Papists till about twentie yeares before Luther 1500. we had no appearing Church left in the Romish iurisdiction for the space of twenty yeares before the rising of Luther which time is called but three dayes and an halfe in respect of the three Angels yeares and an halfe the time of Antichrists reigne wherefore seeing they had their Church alone without our Church but twenty yeares before Luther how wickedly doe they delude the multitude in making them to beleeue they had the Romish Church and all other Christian Churches vniuersally from Saint Peters time and that wee had no Church till Luthers time whereas we see it proued most apparently that for the first 606. yeares next after Christ our Church was and theirs had no being at all and that the very first beginning of their Church was the entrance vpon our Church in the Romish iurisdiction of which wee see a part continued in view till about twenty yeares before Luther which if wee had not had yet will wee now proue that continually from the Apostles time to Luthers time we had else-where as great a Church as they if not greater 6 Vnderstand therefore Christian reader that albeit the whole Christian Church was one yet afterwards it was diuided into two parts to wit East and West so till the Councell of Florence which was about fourteene hundred yeeres after Christ they possessed but the West part The Councell of Florence And notwithstanding Michael Paleolgus Emperour of the East in hope of some aide of the Pope and the Princes of the West against the Turke did his good will to haue brought the East part in subiection to the Popes of Rome yet as their Paulus saith d Paul Aemil. in Philippo 4. his people so detested him for it that after his death they would not admit him common Christian buriall Againe it is certaine that the Greekes counted the Romanes a most polluted and an infectious people for in their late Councell of Lateran it is said e Jn Concil Lateranen Cap. 4. The Greekes began so much to abhorre the Romanes that if it had happened the Lattine Priests to haue ministred vpon their Alters they would not offer any oblation vpon them before they had washed the same Againe albeit the Legates of the East in the Councell of Florence was perswaded to yeeld to be subiect to the Pope yet doubting it would not be well taken at their returne home they halfe recanted and said f The Councell of Florence We haue no leaue nor commission to speake these words And notwithstanding at their returne home they laboured so with the Greekes that they consented to yeeld yet this continued not for as their Platina saith g Platina in Eugenio Not long after they fell to their olde bent againe But had it continued to this day without reuolting yet had it come too too late to haue maintained the antiquitie of the Popes vniuersalitie yea too late by at the least 1300. yeeres And therefore it was that Illyricus which dwelt vpon the borders of Grecia wrote thus h Illyricus Testibus Veritatis page 5. The Churches of Grecia and the Churches of Asia Macedonia Misia Valachia Russia Muschouia and Affrica ioyned thereunto that is to say saith he in a manner all the whole world or at the least the greatest part thereof neuer graunted the Pope his supremacie 7 So that Christian reader thou seest that howsoeuer the Emperour Phocas did giue that prerogatiue to the Bishop of Rome to be vniuersall head of all Christian Bishops and Rome to be chiefe of all Christian Churches it doth not therefore follow that all Christian Churches were content therewith or did yeeld thereunto or that Rome euer attained thereunto onely she obtained to be vniuersall superiour ouer the West Churches as is plainely confessed by their Doctor M. Harding in his Booke of Confutation of the Apologie i Harding Apolog chap. 23. diuision 2. where he saith Rome is the Mother of all the West Churches If but of the West then not vniuersally of all both East and West therefore by M. Hardings owne confession here falleth to the ground the Popes vniuersalitie And therefore as we saw proued in the former Chapter that for the first sixe hundred and six yeares their Church had not any being at all so here we see proued as plainely that after they had a Church they had it but by measure and not vniuersally as they fondly fable Wherefore christian Reader whensoeuer they shall hereafter demaund of thee where our Church was before Luthers time answer them thus It was by Gregory the Greats confession sixe hundred and fiue yeeres before there was an vniuersall Pope to make a Popish Church hauing then none other but onely the same vniuersall head that now the true Christian Catholique and vniuersall Church hath of which we are now apart and that afterwards when an vniuersall Pope was ordained and made supreame head of the Church and had gotten dominion ouer the West part thereof yet euen there was our Church in reasonable quietnesse till about foure hundred yeares when as Pope Hildebrand began to be a fire-brand For indeed about that time Antichrist began to lay himselfe open to the world by his tyrannie which he began then to exercise against those that did withstand him and afterwards when as hee was growing vp to the full measure of iniquitie and that our Church among them could no longer beare his detestable enormities then during the next fiue hundred yeares following through their grieuous persecutions it was driuen into holes and corners and as many as they found they destroyed and the rest would haue destroyed had they not fled into those other parts of our Church before mentioned where they were preserued by Gods prouidence from the sonne of perditions tyrannie according to the prophesie in the fourteenth verse of the twelfth Chapter of the Reuelation which saith But to the woman to wit the true Church were giuen two wings of the great Eagle that shee might flie into the wildernesse into her place where she is nourished for a time and times and halfe a time from the presence of the Serpent The Church of Rome is proued to be a persecuter of the true
Fiftly Leo whose Legates in his behalfe stood for the Title and Authority of Vniuersall Bishop in the Councell of Chalcedon which Councell would not yeeld him that prerogatiue onely because his Sea was the most auncient seate of the Emperor hee should haue the highest place in Councells and Assemblies and that was all as we proued in our thirteenth Section I say when as the Bishops of Rome saw that the Bishop of Constantinople was like to be made and established Vniuersall Bishop of Bishops which they could neuer attaine vnto then as we heard in the first Section of our fift Chapter Pelagius the second Bshop of Rome of that name decreed That no Bishop no not the Bishop of Rome himselfe should be called Vniuersall Bishop Gregory the Great when he came he made an out-crie against the Title calling it an vngodly title a title of shame and fit for no Christian but for Antichrist alone and sought to cleare all his predecessours from either receiuing or desiring the Title or Dignitie as appeareth in the fift Section of the fift Chapter where he said * Gregor lib. 4. Epist. 32.36 None of my predecessors Bishops of Rome euer consented to vse that vngodly name We the Bishops of Rome would neuer take vpon vs the name of singularitie we would neuer receiue that honour being offered vnto vs. To be briefe to induce the people to beleeue that notwithstanding these words of Gregory yet he had the vniuersall dominion ouer all Bishops Cardinall Allen biddeth them not looke to his words but to his practise I answere If the practise of Gregory was such as his owne words condemned for vngodly blasphemous and Antichristian we were best to be led by his Words and not by his Practise Againe whereas their Doctour M. Harding saith f Harding Apolog cap. 4. Diuis 3. Giue vs the Thing and we will not striue for the Name as though Gregory had had all Bishops vniuersally vnder his gouernment nothing can be made more plaine to the contrary then these words of Gregory himselfe hath made it where he found himselfe grieued that Maximus Bishop of Salona was made Bishop without his consent and maintained in his place by the Emperour notwithstanding hee was a criminall person g Gregor lib. 4. cap. 78. If said hee the faults of those Bishops which be committed to my charge be borne out by my gracious Lords c. What make I heere in this Church while that mine owne Bishops contemne me Which maketh the case cleare that he had Bishops of his owne and a peculiar charge to gouerne and not an vniuersall dominion ouer all All which proueth Bellarmines assertion most vntrue that by all Councells and Fathers the Popes vniuersall supremacie was approued of from Saint Peters time To conclude forasmuch as both by Councells and Fathers wee haue ouerthrowne the antiquitie of their Church their vniuersality the Popes supremacie Succession of vniuersall Popes and generall consent and proued that they were not approued of by generall consent nor publiquely established before Gregories decease which was in the yeere of Christ 605. nor of two yeeres after when as the great Antichrist rose in Rome let them bring neuer so many testimonies out of those Councells and Fathers which were afterwards I would wish no man to vouchsafe the answering any one of them but vtterly to disclaime them all as Antichristian For what should wee looke for vnder Antichrist but that all things should be ordered and done to vphold him and to maintaine his kingdome And thus much for this point But now for that the maine foundation whereupon all their Assertions are grounded is an imagined conceit of Saint Peters supreame and vniuersal authoritie let vs see what we can say to that point more specially CHAP. VIII Tending to resolue all men that the Apostle Saint Peters authority was but the same that the other Apostles was and therefore that supreame authority which the Pope Claymeth from Saint Peter is fabilous That Christ alone is the supreame head of the Church euen of that part that is Millitant as that which is Triumphant That Ierusalem is the most ancient Mother of the Catholique Church that the Popish is the Church of Antichrist and therefore it is blasphemy to affirme it to be the same which Saint Peter first planted in Rome That there was no Church planted in Rome till the yeere of Christ 44 before which time there were many Christian Churches planted in the World therefore Rome could not be the Mother but a Daughter of the Mother Church 1 IT hath of long time gone for currant Doctrine Christian Reader that our Sauiour Christ made Saint Peter supreame head and Prince of all the Apostles That vnto him onely he committed the Keyes of the kingdome of Heauen That vnto him hee committed the care and charge of his whole Church That vnto him onely he committed the office of feeding both Sheepe and Lambes olde and young That hee was that Rocke on which Christ said hee would build his Church and against which the gates of hell should not preuaile That for him the prayer was made Finally that he alone had an ordinary power from whence all the other Apostles receiued their powers and authority and that the Pope receiued the same ordinary power from him whereby he taketh vpon him to giue power and authority to all Bishops Pastors and Ministers All this I say during the time of Popish blindnesse went through the Romish iurisdiction for Catholique doctrine which God-willing shall be proued but fond fables 2 First then whereas they say that Christ made Saint Peter Prince and head of all the Apostles this may easily be proued a fable because there is nothing in all the Scriptures made more manifest then Saint Mathew Saint Marke and Saint Luke hath made it to the contrary Luke 22.23.24.25.26 For as Saint Luke declareth that there was a strife risen among the Apostles about principalitie and supreame dignity and that they began to enquire among themselues which of them should seeme to be the greatest So Saint Matthew and Saint Marke declareth that when their Master Christ perceiued whereabout they went he did not make so light a matter of it as to giue them leaue to determine it among themselues but with great care he called them vnto him and sate downe and as they all stood before him Matthew 20 25.26 he decided their question according to Saint Matthew thus Ye know that the Lords of the Gentiles haue domination ouer them and they that are great exercise authority ouer them but it shall not be so among you but whosoeuer will be great among you let him be your seruant According to Saint Marke thus Marke 9.33.34.35 If any desire to be first the same shall be last of all and seruant vnto all So that by this wee see it very apparant that Christ allowed no supremacy or principality at all among the Apostles therefore the