and Author's Joynt-desires might have taken Effect there had been no difference about this passage in my Book Tuque domo proprià nos Te Praesul Poteremur Thou hadst enjoy'd thy house and we Prelate had enjoyed Thee But alas it is so He is still and still when all other Bishops are released detained in the Tower where I believe he maketh Gods Service his perfect freedom My words as relating to the time when I wrote them containe too much sorrowfull truth therein Dr. Heylyn Fourthly Archbishop Williams after his restoring unto liberty â—ent not into the Kings Quarters as our Author saith but unto one of his own houses in Yorkshire where he continued till the year 1643. and then came to Oxford not that he found the North too cold for him or the War too hot but to solicit for renâ—wing of his Commendam in the Deanry of Westminster the time for which he was to hold it drawing towards an end Fuller Nothing false or faulty The Arch-bishop of York stayed some weeks after his enlargement at Westminster thence he went privately to the house of Sir Thomas Hedley in Huntingon shire and thence to his Palace at Caâ—ood nigh York where he gave the King a magnificent Intertainment King James setled the Deanry of Westminster under the great Seal on Dr. Williams so long as he should continue Bishop of Lincoln Hinc illa Lacrimae hence the great heaving and hussing at Him because He would not resigne it which was so signal a Monument of his Master's favour unto him Being Arch-bishop of York King Charls confirmed his Deanry unto him for three years in lieu of the profits of his Arch-bishoprick which the King had taken Sede vacante So that it is probable enough the renuing that Tearm might be a Joynt-Motive of his going to Oxford But I see nothing which I have written can be cavilled at except because I call Yorkshire the King's Quarters which as yet was the Kings WHOLE when the Arch-bishop first came thither as being a little before the War began though few Weeks after it became the King's Quarters Such a Prolepsis is familiar with the best Historians and in effect is little more then when the Animadvertor calleth the Gag and Appello Caesarem the Books of Bishop Montague who when they were written by him was no though soon after a Bishop Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds fol. 196. Some of the aged Bishops had their tongues so used to the language of a third Estate that more then once they ran on that reputed Rock in their speeches for which they were publickly shent and enjoyned an acknowledgment of their mistake By whom they were so publickly shent and who they were that so ingenuously acknowledged their mistake as my Author telleth us not so neither can I say whether it be true or false Fuller I tell you again It is true The Earl of Essex and the Lord Say were two of the Lords though this be more then I need discover who checked them And of two of those Bishops Dr. Hall late Bishop of Norwich is gone to God and the other is still alive Dr. Heylyn But I must needs say that there was small ingenuity in acknowledging a mistake in that wherein they had not been mistaken or by endeavouring to avoid a reputed Rock to run themselves on a certain Rock even the Rock of Scandall Fuller Their brief and generall acknowledgment that they vvere sorry that they had spoken in this point vvhat had incurred the displeasure of the Temporall Lords was no trespass on their own ingenuity nor had shadovv of scandall to others therein I confess men must not bear fals-witness either against themselves or others nor may they betray their right especially when they have not onely a personall concernment therein but also are in some sort Feoffees in trust for Posterity However vvhen a predominant Power plainly appears which will certainly over-rule their cause against them without scandall they may not to say in Christian prudence they ought to wave the vindication of their priviledges for the present waiting wishing and praying for more moderate and equall times wherein they may assert their right with more advantage to their cause and less danger to their persons Dr. Heylyn For that the English Bishops had their vote in Parliament as a third Estate and not in the capacity of temporal Barons will evidently appear by these reasons following For first the Clergy in all other Christian Kingdoms of these Northwest parts make the third Estate that is to say in the German Empire as appears by Thuanus the Historian lib. 2. In France as is affirmed by Paulus Aemilius lib. 9. In Spain as testifieth Bodinus in his De Repub. lib. 3. For which consult also to the Generall History of Spain as in point of practise lib. 9 10 11 14. In Hungary as witnesseth Bonfinius Dec. 2. l. 1. In Poland as is verified by Thunus also lib. 56. In Denmark as Pontanus telleth us in Historia rerum Danicarum l. 7. The Swedes observing antiently the same form and order of Government as was us'd by the Danes The like we find in Camden for the Realm of Scotland in which antiently the Lords Spirituall viz. Bishops Abbots Priors made the third Estate And certainly it were very strange if the Bishops and other Prelates in the Realm of England being a great and powerfull body should move in a lower Sphere in England then they do elsewhere But secondly not to stand onely upon probable inferences we find first in the History of Titus Livius touching the Reign and Acts of King Henry the fifth that when his Funerals were ended the three Estates of the Realm of England did assemble togeâ—her and declared his Son King Henry the sixth being an Infant of eight months old to be their Soveraign Lord as his Heir and Successor And if the Lords Spirituall did not then make the third Estate I would know who did Secondly the Petition tendred to Richard Duke of Glocester to accept the Crown occurring in the Parliament Rolls runs in the name of the three Estates of the Realm that is to say The Lords Spirituall and Temporall and the Commons thereof Thirdly in the first Parliament of the said Richard lately Crowned King it is said expresly that at the request and by the consent of the three Estates of this Realm that is to say the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons of this Land assembled in this present Parliament and by Authority of the same it be pronounced decreed and declared That our said Soveraign Lord the King was and is the very and undoubted King of this Realm of England c. Fourthly it is acknowledged so in the Statute of 1 Eliz. cap. 3. where the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and the Commons in that Parliament assembled being said expresly and in terminis to represent the three Estates of this Realm of England did recognize the Queens Majesty to be their true
likewise fear that the Animadvertor will lay so much weight of ill words upon me that the profit I shall reap will not countervail the pain I must endure in my rectification Dr. Heylyn Our Author saith Ibid. It would be of dangerous consequence to condemn him by the Canons of forrain Councils which were never allowed any Legislative power in this Land Which words are very ignorantly spoken or else very improperly Fuller Did I not foretell aright that my rectification would cost me dear even the burden of bad words Here I have a dolefull Dilemma presented unto me to confesse my self speaking either very ignorantly or very improperly But might not one of these two VERY's have very well been spared Well è malis minimum if it must be so that my choice must be of one of these let it be rather but Impropriety than Ignorance But Reader I see no necessity of acknowledging either but that my words are both knowingly and properly spoken and now to the triall Dr. Heylyn For if by Legislative power he means a power of making Lawes as the word doth intimate then it is true That the Canons of forrain Councells had never any such power within this Land But if by Legislative power he means a Power or Capability of passing for Lawes within this Kingdom then though he use the word improperly it is very fals that no such Canons were in force in the Realm of England The Canons of many forrain Councells Generall Nationall and Provinciall had been received in this Church and incorporated into the body of the Canon-Law by which the Church proceeded in the exercise of her Jurisdiction till the submission of the Clergy to King Henry the Eighth And in the Act confirmative of that submission it is said expresly That all Canons Constitutions Ordinances and Synodals Provinciall as were made before the said Submission which be not contrary or repugnant to the Laws Statutes and Customs of this Realm nor to the dammage or hurt of the Kings Prerogative Royall were to be used and executed as in former times 25 H. 8. c. 19. So that unlesse it can be proved that the proceedings in this case by the Canons of forrain Councels was either contrary or repugnant to the Laws and Customs of the Realm or to the dammage of the Kings prerogative Royall There is no dangerous consequence at all to be found therein Fuller By Legislative power of the Canons of forrain Councels I understand their power to subject the People of our Nation to Guiltiness and consequently to Penalties if found infringing them Now I say again such forrain Canons though not against but onely besides our Common Law and containing no repugnancy but disparateness to the Lawes of our Land either never had such power in England since the Reformation or else disuse long since hath antiquated it as to the rigid exercise thereof For instance a Bishop I am sure and I think a Priest too is in the old Canons rendred irregular for playing a game at Tables Dice being forbidden by the Canons Yet I conceive it would be hard measure and a thing de facto never done that such irregularity should be charged on him on that account We know it was the project of the Pope and Papall party to multiply Canons in Councels meerly to make the more men and men the more obnoxious unto him that they might re-purchase their innocence at the price of the Court of Rome I believe the Animadvertor himself would be loth to have his canonicalness tried by the Test of all old Canons made in rigorem disciplinae yet not contrariant to our Laws and Customs seeing they are so nice and numerous that Cautiousnesse it self may be found an offendor therein I resume my words That it would be of dangerous consequence to condemn the Arch-Bishop by Canons of forrain Councels which never obtained power here either quoad reatum or poenam of such as did not observe them Dr. Heylyn But whereas our Author adds in some following words That eversince he means ever since the unhappy accident he had executed his jurisdiction without any interruption I must needs add That he is very much mistaken in this particular Dr. Williams Lord Elect of Lincoln Dr. Carew Lord Elect of Exeter and Dr. Laud Lord Elect of St. Davids and I think some others refusing to receive Episcopall Consecration from him on that account Fuller Must the Animadvertor needs add this I humbly conceive no such necessity being but just the same which I my self had written before Church-History Book 10. Pag. 88. Though some squemish and nice-conscienced Elects scrupled to be consecrated by him But I beheld this as no effectuall interrupting of his Jurisdiction because other Bishops more in number no whit their inferiour received Consecration Dr. Davenant Dr. Hall and King Charls himself his Coronation from him Dr. Heylyn Far more mistaken is our Author in the next when he tells us fol. 128. Though this Arch-bishop survived some years after yet hence-forward he was buried to the world No such matter neither For though for a while he stood confined to his house at Ford yet neither this Confinement nor that Commission were of long continuance for about Christmas in the year 1628. he was restored both to his Liberty and Jurisdiction sent for to come unto the Court received as he came out of his Barge by the Arch-Bishop of York and the Earl of Dorset and by them conducted to the King who giving him his hand to kiss enjoyned him not to fail the Councill-Table twice a vveek After which time we find him sitting as Arch-Bishop in Parliament and in the full exercise of his Iurisdiction till the day of his death which happened on Sunday August the 4th 1633. And so much of him Fuller An Historian may make this exception but not a Divine my words being spoken in the language of the Apostle The world is crucified unto me and I unto the world I had said formerly that the Keeper's death was this Arch-Bishop's mortification But from this his Suspension from the exercise of his Iurisdiction he was in his own thoughts buried it reviving his obnoxiousness for his former casuall Homicide so that never he was seen hartily if at all to laugh hereafter though I deny not Much Court-savour was afterwards on designe conferred on him Here I hope it will be no offence to insert this innocent story partly to shew how quickly tender guiltiness is dejected partly to make folk cautious how they cast out gaulling speeches in this kind This Archbishop returning to Croidon after his late absence thence a long time many people most women whereof some of good quality for good will for novelty and curiosity crouded about his Coach The Archbishop being unwilling to be gazed at and never fond of Females said somewhat churlishly What make these women here You had best said one of them to shoot an arrow at us I need not tell the Reader
ancient evidence we must take his word which whether those of Cambridge will depend upon they can best resolve For my part I forbear all intermedling in a controversie so clearly stated and which hath lain so long asleep till now awakened by our Author to beget new quarrels Such passages in that History as come under any Animadversion have been reduced unto the other as occasion served which the Reader may be pleased to take notice of as they come before him Fuller Because omitted by Arch-Bishop Parker I have the more Cause and Reason to insert it Otherwise had he handled the Subject before the Animadvertor would have cryed out Crambe that there was nothing novel therein Call it I pray The FRINGE of my Book be it but for the Subjects sake whereof it treats my dear Mother the University of Cambridge I live in the same generation with the Animadvertor and I hope shall acquit my self as honest which truly is as wise as himself CHURCH-ROMANCE parciùs ista As I tell the Reader of the burning of those Original Charters so in the same place I charge my Margin with my Author Dr. Caius and thereby discharge my self Doth the Animadvertor now forbear all intermedling therein in this Controversy Why did he not forbear before when setting forth his last Geography some five years since And is it not as lawful for me to defend as for him to oppose my Mother When where and by whom was this Controversie so clearly stated Was it by the Animadvertor himself Such a Party is unfit for a Iudge Or was it stated by the Parliament mentioned by him 1 mo Iacobi when as he telleth us the Clerk was commanded to place Oxford first But it plainly appears it was not then so clearly decided but that the question was ever started again in the late long Parliament with Arguments on both Sides Witness the printed Speech of Sir Simonds D'EWES on that occasion Dr. Heylyn All these extravagancies and impertinencies which make up a fifth part of the whole Volume being thus discharged it is to be presum'd that nothing should remain but a meer Church History as the Title promiseth But let us not be too presumptuous on no better grounds Fuller The Animadvertor's Words mind me of a Memorable passage which hereafter he hath in his Animadversions on my Sixth Book or History of Abbeys The Intruder payeth to the Sequestred Minister but a NINETEENTH part in stead of a FIFTH But if the FIFTH-PART in relation to my Book be here stated to the same proportion for the NINETEENTH yet will not the Animadvertor's measure be reconciled to the Standard of Truth Dr. Heylyn For on a Melius inquirendum into the whole course of the Book which we have before us we shall find too little of the Church and too much of the State I mean too little of the Ecclesiastical and too much of the Civil History It might be reasonably expected that in a History of the Church of England we should have heard somewhat of the foundation and enlargement of Cathedral Churches if not of the more eminent Monasteries and Religious Houses and that we should have heard somewhat more of the succession of Bishops in their several and respective Sees their personal Endowments learned Writings and other Acts of Piety Magnificence and publick Interess especially when the times afforded any whose names in some of those respects deserv'd to be retain'd in everlasting remembrance Fuller I doubt not but the Reader who hath perused my Church-History will bear me witness that therein there is a competent Representation of all these particulars so far forth as the Proportion of the Book will bear Dr. Heylyn It might have been expected also that we should have found more frequent mention of the calling of National and Provincial Synods with the result of their proceedings and the great influence which they had on the Civil State sparingly spoken of at the best and totally discontinued in a manner from the death of King Henry the fourth until the Convâ—â—â—tion of the yeer 1552. of which no notice had been taken but that he had a mind to question the Authority of the Book of Articles which came out that year though publisht as the issue and product of it by the express Warrant and Command of King Edward the sixth Fuller All Councels before the Conquest with their Canons are compleatly and the most remarkable after it represented in my History With what face can the Animadvertor say that I have discontinued the Acts of the Convocation till the year 1552 The Acts of one critical Convocation in the 27 of Henry the eighth 1535. taking up no less than eight sheets in my Book and another in the same Kings Reign imploying more than a sheet Dr. Heylyn No mention of that memorable Convocation in the fourth and fifth years of Philip and Mary in which the Clergy taking notice of an Act of Parliament then newly passed by which the Subjects of the Temporality having Lands to the yearly value of five pounds and upwards were charged with finding Horse and Armour according to the proportion of their yearly Revenues and Possessions did by their sole authority as a Convocation impose upon themselves and the rest of the Clergy of this Land the finding of a like number of Horses Armour and other Necessaries for the War according to their yearly income proportion for proportion and rate for rate as by that Statute had been laid on the Temporal Subjects Fuller I am confident that this is the self-same Convocation which is thus entered in my Church-History Book 8. p. 39. Anno 1557. quinto Mariae The Clergy gave the Queen a Subsidie of eight shillings in the pound confirmed by Act of Parliament to be paid in four years In requital whereof by Poole 's procurement the Queen Priviledged them from shewing their horses with the Laily yet so that they should muster them up for the defence of the Land under Captains of their own own chusing I cannot therefore be justly charged with no mention of the Acts of this Convocation Dr. Heylyn And this they did by their own sole Authority as before was said Ordering the same to be levyed on all such as were refractory by Sequestration Deprivation Suspension Excommunication Ecclesiastical Censures all without relating to any subsequent confirmation by Act of Parliament which they conceiv'd they had no need of Fuller I took the less notice of and gave the less heed to the transactions of the Clergy therein because then they were in their Hufte and Height furious with Fire and Fagot so that all done by them de facto cannot be justified for Legal who sometimes borrowed a point of Law even with intent never to repay it in their proceedings It may be proved out of Mr. Fox that some at that time by a cruell Prolepsis antedated the burning of some Martyrs before the Writ de Haeretico Comburendo came unto them Wherefore all their actions
Thou shalt not have other gods before me and the Animadvertor knoweth well that the Originall importeth Coram me that is Thou shalt have none other in my sight or presence Now for quietnesse sake let the result of this long discourse so far as I can understand be granted him and it amounts to no more then to put the Brittains in the same form with the Grecians instructed by their Druids in the worship of one God as well and as far as the Grecians were in the same Lesson by their Philosophers Now what the Grecians held and did in this point will appear by the practise of the Athenians whose City was the Mistris of Greece Staple of Learning and Palace of Philosophers and how well the Athenians worshipped one God we have from the infallible witness of St. Paul whose spirit was stirred within him whilst he saw the City wholly given to idolatry Whence it will follow that the Brittaines form-fellowes with the Grecians were wholly given to Idolatry which is as much and more then I said before And now the Reader may judge what progress the Animadvertor hath made in confuting what I have written yea less then the Beast Pigritia in Brasil which as he telleth us elsewhere goeth not so far in fourteen daies as one may throw a stone Yea our Adversary hath not gone at all save backward and if he doth not mend his pace it will be late before he commeth to his lodging Here let me mind the Animadvertor that my Church-History thus beginneth That we may the more freely and fully pay the tribute of our thanks to Gods goodness for the Gospell which we now enjoy let us recount the sad condition of the Brittains our Predecessors before the Christian faith was preached unto them If therefore the Animadvertor by his tedious discourse endeavouring to UN-IDOLATRIZE the Brittains as much as he could I say if hereby he hath hindred or lessened any mans paying of his thanks to God he hath done a thankless office both to God and Man therein Dr Heylyn Our Author proceedeth fol. 3. It facilitated the entrance of the Gospell hither that lately the Roman Conquest had in part civilized the South of this Island by transporting Colonies and erecting of Cities there Than which there could not any thing be said more different from the truth of story or from the time of that Conversion which we have in hand performed as all our latter Writers and amongst them our Author himself have affirmed from Gildas who lived in the fourth Century of the Christian Church Tempore summo Tiberii Caesaris toward the latter end of the Reigne of Tiberius Cesar that is to say about thirty seven years after Christs Nativity at what time the Romans had neither erected any one City nor planted any one Colony in the South parts of the Island For though Iulius Cesar in pursuance of his Gallick Conquest had attempted this Island crossed the Thames and pierced as far as Verulamium in the County of the Cattieuchlani now Hartfordshire yet either finding how difficult a work it was like to prove or having business of more moment he gave over the enterprize resting contented with the honour of the first discovery Et ostendisse potiùs quà m trad disse as we read in Tacitus Nothing done after this in order to the Conquest of Brittain untill the time of Claudius Augustus would by no means be perswaded to the undertaking and much less Tiberius in whose last years the Gospell was first preach'd in Brittain as before was said Concilium id Divus Augustus vocabat Tiberius praecipue And though Caligula leaving the honour of this Conquest to his Uncle Claudius who next succeeded in the Empire and being invited into Brittain by a discontented party amongst the Natives reduc'd some part thereof into the form of a Roman Province Of this see Tacitus at large in the life of Agricola By which it will appear most clearly that there was neither City of the Romans erection nor Colony of their plantation till the time of Claudius and consequently no such facilitating of the work by either of those means which our Author dreams of But from the Time proceed we to the Author of this first Conversion of which thus our Author Fuller In the first place know Reader that Mr. Burton in his late learned Notes on Antoninus justifieth that Iulius Cesar did Colonize what ever the Animadvertor saith to the contrary some part of this Land otherwise his whole Conquest would have unraveled after his departure and his Successors had had their work to begin afresh 2ly I say not the first entrance but the Entrance of the Gospell was facilitated by the Roman Conquest The entrance of the Gospell into this Island was so far from being done in an instant or simul semel that it was not res unius seculi the product of one age but was successively done 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 at sundry times and in divers manners So that this extensive entrance of the Christian Religion gradually insinuating it self took up a century of years from the latter end of Tiberius and so forwards Christianity entred not into this Island like Lightning but like light None can behold this Essay thereof in the time of Tiberius otherwise then a morning-Star some forty years after the day dawned and lastly under King Lucius that Leuer-Maure or the great light the Sun of Religion may be siad to arise before which time the South of this Island was sufficiently Colonized by the Romans whereby Commerce and Civility ushered Christianity into Brittain Yet to clear my words not from untruth in themselves but mistakes in others and to avoid all appearance of falshood it shall be altered God-willing in the next Edition It facilitated the entrance and propagation of the Gospell here c. Dr. Heylyn Parsons the Iesuite mainly stickleth for the Apostle Peter to have first preached the Gospell here And our Author doth as mainly stickle against it The Reason which induced Parsons so to stickle in it was as our Author thinks and telleth us fol. 4. to infer an Obligation of this Island to the See of Rome And to exempt this Island from that Obligation our Author hath endeavoured to disprove the Tradition Fuller That the Iesuite furiously driveth on that designe appeareth to any that peruse his Works and your Author conceiveth his owne Endeavours lawfull and usefull in stopping his full Carrere and disobliging the Church of England from a Debt as uniustly pretended as vehemently prosecuted Et veniam pro laude petit laudatus abunâ—e Non fastiditus si tuus Author erit Your Author for his praise doth pardon crave If not despis'd his praise enough shall have It is therefore but hard measure for you to require his good intentions if failing in successe with contempt and reproach Dr. Heylyn Whereas indeed St. Peters preaching in this Island if he were the first that preach't here in
misconstructions if the additaments of the middle and darker times should be produced to the disparagement of the whole Narration Fuller Now the Reader sees my Prediction performed viz. that after the Animadvertor had flounced about he would close with my sense in his owne words Is noâ— this the very same in effect with what I said approving the Substance but rejecting the Fabulous circumstances of the story of Ioseph In all this he hath done just nothing save onely swelled his Book though hollow within to make it amount to a Saleable bignesse Dr. Heylyn But such an Enemy Our Author is to all old Traditions that he must needs have a blow at Glassen-bury Thorne though before â—ut down by some Souldiers as himselfe confesseth like Sir Iohn Falstaffe in the Play who to shew his Valour must thrust his sword into the Bodies of those men which were dead before Fuller Not to all old Traditions good Animadvertor Saint Paul saith Hold the Traditions which you have been taught whether by Word or our Epistle such Traditions as these whether in Doctrine or Practice I desire to retaine As for unwitnessed Traditions my Emnity is not such but in the heat thereof I can smile at them The Animadvertor hath wronged me and The Comedian hath wronged Sir Iohn Falstaffe He was a valiant Knight famous for his Atcheivements in France made as the History of St. George testifieth Knight of the Garter by King Henry the Sixt and one who disdained to violate the Concerments of the Dead Nor have I been injurious to the Thorne of Glassenbury living or Dead as will appeare Dr. Heylyn The budding or blossoming of which Thorne he accounts untrue which were it true c. Fol. 8. affirming from I know not whom that it doth not punctually and critically bud on Christmas Day but on the dayes neare it and about it And were it no otherwise then so the Miracle were not much the lesse then if it budded critically on Christmas Day as I have heard from persons of great Worth and credit dwelling neare the place that indeed it did though unto such as had a mind to decry the Festival it was no very hard matter to belie the Miracle Fuller My words amount not to an absolute Denial but to some Dissatisfaction Parcel-Diffidelity in matters of such nature I am sure is no sin Mr. Taylor burges for Bristol in the long Parliament was He who told me that going thither purposely with his Kinsman it did not that year exactly bud on Christmas Day A Person as improbable to deâ—ry the Festival being a Colonel on the Kings side who refusing quarter was killed under the walles of Bristol so unlikely if living to have taken the LYE from the Pen of the Animadvertor And now Reader seeing some mirth will not be amisse know that As I do not believe his report who on a Christmas day stroaking his Hand down his Doublet before found there a great green Quick-Set suddenly grown and Wondred thereat untill he remembred that the moulds of his Bald-worne buttens were made of Glassen-bury Thorne so am I not of so sullen and Morose a Nature as not to Credit what is generally and Credibly reported Nor do my words Positively and Peremptorily conclude against the budding of this Thorne but against the necessary relating thereof to Arimathean Ioseph which I rather leave at large to some occult Quality in nature paralleling it with the like never as yet fathered on any Saint the causer thereof the Oake in Hamshire But enough lest we occasion the altering of the Proverb from de Lana Caprina into de Corno Glastoniensi Dr. Heylyn In fine our Author either is unwilling to have the Gospell as soon preach't here as in other places or else we must have preachers for it from he knowes not whence Such preachers we must have as either drop down immediately from the Heavens as Diana's Image is said to have done by the Towne-Clark of Ephesus or else must suddenly rise out of the earth as Tages the first Sooth-sayer amongst Thuscans is reported to have done by some antient Writers And yet we cannot say of our Author neither as Lactantius did of one Acesilas if my memory fail not Recte hic aliorum sustulit disciplinas sed non rectè fundavit suam that is to say that though he had laid no good grounds for his own opinion yet he had solidly confuted the opinions of others Our Author hath a way by himselfe neither well skill'd in pulling down or in building up Fuller I have plucked nothing dovvn but vvhat vvould have fallen of it selfe and thereby perchance hurt others I meane mis-inform them as grounded on a foundred foundation In place vvhereof I have erected if not so faire a more firme Fabrick acknovvledging That Apostolicall men did at first found the Gospell here though to use my vvords the British Church hath forgotten her own infancy and who were her first God-Fathers Adding hereto that as God concealed the Body of Moses to prevent Idolatry So to cut off from posterity all occasion of superstition He suffered the memories of our Priâ—itive planters to be buried in Obscurity This is enough to satisfie any ingenuous person who â—â—eferreth a modest truth before adventurous assertions having in them much of fals-hoâ—d and more of uncertainty Dr. Heylyn From the first conversion of the Brittains proceed we now unto the second as Parsons cals it or rather from the first Preaching to the Propagation The Christian Faith here planted by St. Peter or St. Ioseph or perhaps planted by the one and watered by the other in their severall times had still a being in this Island till the time of Lucius So that there was no need of a new Conversion but onely of some able Labourers to take in the Harvest The Miracles done by some pious Christians induced King Lucius to send Elvanus and Meduinus two of that profession to the Pope of Rome requesting principally that some Preachers might be sent to instruct him in the saith of Christ. Which the Pope did according to the Kings desire sending Faganus and Derwianus two right godly men by whom much people were converted the Temples of the gods converted into Christian Churches the Hierarchy of Bishops setled and the whole building raised on so good a foundation that it continued undemolisht till the time of the Saxons Fuller This is the Sum and Substance of the Story of K. Lucius which the Animadvertor hath breviated and with whom I concurre therein It never came into my thoughts to doubt the substance but deny some circumstances thereof My owne expression is that the whole Bulk thereof is not to be Refused but Refined and to this I adhere Dr. Heylyn And in the summing up of this story our Author having refuted some petit Arguments which had been answered to his hand though much mistaken by the way in taking Diotarus King of Galatia for a King of Sicilie
fol. 10. gives us some other in their stead which he thinks unanswerable Fuller I deny not that P. Eleutherius might or did send a Letter to K. Lucius but I justly suspect the Letter novv extant to be but-pretended and forged I never thought by the vvay hovv came the Animadvertor to knovv my thoughts my Arguments unanswerable but now I say they are unanswered standing in full force notvvithstanding any alledged by the Animadvertor to the contrary I confesse a Memory-mistake of Sicilia for Galatia and as it is the first fault he hath detected in my Book so shall it be the first by me God Willing amended in the next Edition Dr. Heylyn Our Author First objects against the Popes answer to the King that Fol. 11. It relates to a former letter of King Lucius wherein he requested of the Pope to send him a Copy or Collection of the Roman Lawes which being at that time in force in the I le of Britain was but actum agere But certainly though those parts of Brittain in which Lucius reign'd were governed in part and but in part by the Lawes of Rome yet were the Lawes of Rome at that time more in number and of a far more generall practice then to be limited to so narrow a part of their Dominions Two thousand Volumes we find of them in Iustinians time out of which by the help of Theophilus Trebonianus and many other learned men of that noble faculty the Emperour compos'd that Book or body of Law which from the universality of its comprehension we still call the Pandects Fuller One who hath taken but two Turnes in Trinity hall Court in Cambridge knowes full well what PANDECTS are and why so called All this is but praefatory I waite for the answer to the Objection still to come Dr. Heylyn In the next place it is objected that This letter mounts King Lucius to too high a Throne making him the Monarch or King of Britain who neither was the Supreme nor sole King here but partial and subordinate to the Romans This we acknowledge to be true but no way prejudiciall to the cause in hand Lucius both was and might be call'd the King of Britain though Tributary and Vassal to the Roman Emperors as the two Baliols Iohn and Edward were both Kings of Scotland though Homagers and Vassals to Edward the first and third of England the Kings of Naples to the Pope and those of Austria and Bohemia to the German Emperors Fuller A Blank is better then such writing to no purpose For first both the Baliols in their severall times were though not SUPREME SOLE Kings of Scotland So were the Kings of Naples and the King of Austria there never being but one the first and Last viz. Fredoritus Leopoldus and the Kings of Bohemia in their respective Dominions Not so Lucius who was neither Supreme nor Sole King of Brittain Besides the Baliols being Kings of Scotland did never Style themselves or were Styled by other Kings of Brittaine The Kings of Naples never entituled themselves Kings of Italy Nor the Kings of Austria and Bohemia ever wrote themselves or were written to as Kings of Germany Whereas Lucius Ruler onely in the South West-part of this Isle is in this Letter made King of Brittain more then came to his share an Argument that the Forger thereof was unacquainted with the Constitution of his Kingdom And this just Exception stands firme against the Letter what ever the Animadvertor hath alledged in the excuse thereof Dr. Heylyn Nor doth the next objection give us any trouble at all that is to say that The Scripture quoted in that Letter is out of St. Hieroms Translation which came more then a hundred years after Unless it can be prov'd withall as I think it cannot that Hierom followed not in those Texts those old Translations which were before receiv'd and used in the Western Churches Fuller See the different tempers of men how some in point of Truth are of a tenderer constitution than others The Primate Armach was so sensible of the strength of this reason that it made him conclude against the authenticallnesse of the Letter Dr. Heylyn Lesle am I mov'd with that which follows viz. That this letter not appearing till a thousand years after the death of Pope Eleutherius might probably creep out of some Monks Cell some four hundred years since Which allegation being admitted the Monks Cell excepted it makes no more to the discredit of the letter which we have before us then to the undervaluing of those excellent Monuments of Piety and Learning which have been recovered of late times from the dust and moths of ancient Libraries Such Treasures like money long lock't up is never thought lesse profitable when it comes abroad And from what place soever it first came abroad I am confident it came not out of any Monks Cell that generation being then wholly at the Popes devotion by consequence not likely to divulge an Evidence so manifestly tending to the overthrow of his pretensions The Popes about four hundred years since were mounted to the height of that power and Tyranny which they claimed as Vicars unto Christ. To which there could not any thing be more plainly contrary then that passage in the Pope's letter whereto he tells the King That he was Gods Vicar in his owne Kingdom vos estis Vicarius Dei in Regno vestro as the Latin hath it Too great a secret to proceed from the Cell of a Monk who would have rather forg'd ten Decretals to uphold the Popish usurpations over Soveraign Princes then published one onely whether true or false to subvert the same Nor doth this Letter onely give the King an empty Title but such a Title as imports the exercise of the chief Ecclesiastical Power within his Dominions For thus it followeth in the same The people and the folk of the Realm of Britain be yours whom if they be divided ye ought to gather in concord and peace to call them to the faith and law of Christ to cherish and maintain them to rule and govern them so as you may reign everlastingly with him whose Vicar you are So far the very words of the letter as our Author rendereth them which savour far more of the honest simplicity of the Primitive Popes then the impostures and supposititious issues of the latter times Fuller I confesse some pretious pieces of Antiquity long Latent in Obscurity have at last broke forth into the Light with no little advantage to Learning But then such were intire Books and we know how when where and by whom they were found out and brought forth Whereas this loose Letter secretly and slily slid into the World unattended with any such Cicumstances to attest the Genuinesse thereof Children casually lost are no whit the lesse Legitimate and beloved the more when found and owned of their Parents But give me leave to suspect that Babe a Bastard which is left on a bulk or
under a Stall no Father being found or Mother to maintaine it A Presumption that this Letter of Elutherius is supposititious I confesse this pretended Letter of Lucius hath something in it which doth act and personate primitive simplicity as that passage of Regal power in Church-matters but more which doth practise the Monkish ignorance of later times There were lately false twenty Shilling pieces commonly called Morgans coyned by a cunning and cheating Chymist whose part without the Rind was good Gold and would endure the touch whilst that within was base as but double guilded Brasse Such this Letter of Lucius some part whereof will endure the Test the other not the Monk who made it pretending something of antiquity so to palliate the deceit but having more of the Novelty of the middle age He lived in some six hundred years since May the Reader be pleased to take notice that the Animadvertor hath silently passed by the strongest Argument to shatter the credit of this Letter alledged by me and taken from a phrase unknown in that Age yet used in the Letter even MANU TENERE to Maintain or defend This the Animadvertor slips over in silence and that I believe for nineteen reasons whereof this was one because He himselfe was unable to answer it and knew Criticks would laugh at him if affirming those words in that sense contemporary with Pope Eleutherius Herein He appears like a Dunkerker who delights to prey on poore Marchants Ships passing on in their Calling but meeting an English Man of War He can look Big and fairly give him the goe-By He finds it more facile to carpe an easie inoffensive passage then to confute what hath difficulty and strength of reason therein I resume what I said before and what the Animadvertor hath gain-said to no purpose viz. that this Story of K. Lucius is not to be Refused but Refined and the drosse is to be put from the good Metall or as my own words also are the good Corn therein sifted from the Chaffe and amongst the Chaffe I have cast away this Letter But if the Animadvertor loves to eat both Corn and Chaffe much good may his Diet do him and let Him and Horse feed on their Loafe together Dr. Heylyn Our Author tells us fol. 9. that he had ventured on this story with much aversnesse and we dare believe him He had not else laboured to discredit it in so many particulars and wilfully that I say no worse suppressed c. Fuller Can he say worse than wilfully except it be Maliciously Seeing in my conscience I believe the Story of the conversion of K. Lucius though this Letter and some other circumstances seem to me improbable I enter'd on this story with this much aversenesse as finding much difficulty and fearing not to give satisfaction therein to my self and others I see not how it can be inferred from such my aversenesse that I therefore laboured to discredit the story in so many particulars If this be a good consequence I desire the Reader to remember what the Animadvertor hath written in the latter end of the introduction to his Animadversions on my Book viz. I must needs confesse withall that I did never enter more unwillingly upon any undertaking then I did on this May I not then by the same Logick conclude his endeavouring to disparage my Book because he entered thereon so unwillingly Dr. Heylyn The best part of the Evidence in the words of Beda who being no friend unto the Brittains hath notwithstanding done them right in this great businesse And from him take the story in these following words Anno ab Incarnatione Domini 156. c. In the 156. year after Christs Nativity Marcus Antonius Verus together with Aurelius Commodus his Brother did in the fourteenth place from Augustus Ceasar undertake the government of the Empire In whose times when as Eleutherius a godly man was Bishop of the Church of Rome Lucius King of the Brittains sent unto him Obsecrans uâ— per eius mandatum Christianus efficeretur intreating by his means to be made a Christian. Whose vertuous desire herein was granted and the faith of Christ being thus received by the Brittains was by them kept inviolate and undefiled untill the time of Diocleâ—ian This is the substance of the story as by him delivered true in the main though possibly there may be some mistake in his Chronology as in a matter not so canvassed as it hath been lately Fuller I entered a grand Jury of Authors which mentioned the Conversion of Lucius amongst whom Bede is one I expressed none of them as I had no cause in their words at length neither can I properly be said to suppress any of them solemnly giving in their names and their severall Dates which they assigne to that memorable action Dr. Heylyn Now to proceed unto our Author he tells us Fol. 10. out of Ieffery of Monmouth That at this time there were in England twenty eight Cities each of them having a Flamen or Pagan Priest and three of them namely London York and Caer-lion in Wales had Arch-flamens to which the Rest were subjected and Lucius placed Bishops in the Rome of the Flamens and Arch-bishops Metropolitans in the places of Arch-flamens concluding in the way of Scorne that his Flamines and Arch-flamines seem to be Flams and Arch-flams even notorious False-hoods Fuller I would not willingly sit in the seat of the Scorner and if the Animadvertor by his force will thrust me down into it I will God willing rise up againe and leave the place empty to himselfe to stand or sit therein Pro libero suo Arbitrio I say no more nor so much as that Worthy Knight Sr. Henry Spelman so great an Antiquary that it is Questionable whether his Industry Iudgment or Humility were the Greatest hath said on the same Subject Who having learnedly confuted this Report of Geffery of Monmouth concludeth with the cause of his Mistake relying on some supposititious Epistles Sr. H. Spelman de Concilijs Page 13. Gaufrido autem atque alijs qui Flaminum Archiflaminum et Protoflaminum Commento capiuntur imposuisse videtur Gratiani authoritas Epistolis munita S Lucij c. See! He calleth that Commentum which our Dictionaries English a Flat Lye which I have mitigated into a Flamme as importing in common Discourse a Falshood which hath more of vanity then Mischiefe therein Dr. Heylyn And it is well they do but seem so it being possible enough that they may seem Falshoods to our Author even notorious Falshoods though they seem true enough to others even apparent Truths Fuller They seem so also to learned Sr. Henry Spelman lately alledged and to the Reverend Arch-bishop of Armagh and many others Dr. Heylyn And first though Ieffery of Monmouth seem to deserve no credit in this particular where he speaks against our Author's sense yet in another place where he comes up to his Desires he is otherwise thought of and therefore made
Brimpton though not cleaving the pin touch the mark in this point Unde Anglis regnantibus laus CANTABRIGIENSIS PROVINCIAE splendide florebat Yet the dignity being but tempory and disposable at the Princes pleasure in reward of new Services the Kentish had it afterward bestowed on them and for a long time enjoyed it Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 141. It did not afterwards embolden him to the anticipation of the Crown attending till it descended upon him He speaks this of King Edward the Confessor who had he tarryed till the Crown had descended on him might possibly have found a place amongst the Confessors but not amongst the Kings of England For the truth is the right title to the Crown was at that time in Edward surnamed the Outlaw the eldest son of Edmund Ironside who flying into Hungary to avoid the fury of the Danes married the Kings sister of that Country and was by her the Father of Edgar Atheling and of Margaret wife to Malcolm Conmor King of the Scots But these being absent at that time Emma the Mother of Prince Edward and Widow to Canutus the Dane took the oportunity to set her son upon the Throne as being not onely half-brother to King Edmund Ironside but also half-brother and consequently nearest Kinsman to Canutus the second which if it were a good descent will plead almost as strongly for King Harald as it did for him Fuller My words are true and not subject to just exception which I confined onely to King Edward his relation to his own brethren The legend of his life reports him to be crowned when unborn in his Mothers Belly and having six elder Brethren by the same father King Ethelred 1. Ethelstan 2. Egbert 3. Edmond 4. Edred 5. Edwy 6. Edgar Some of which came to the Crown others died in their minority King Edward though thus pre-crowned did not endeavor to ante-date his possession of the Throne before his elder Brethren but waited till the title as it was derived unto him from his father descended on him Otherwise I advocate not for Him if He took it from any other who had more right to it than himself Dr. Heylin But by what means soever he got the Crown he deserved to weare it Fuller I cannot cordially close with the Animadvertors expression herein being sensible of no Desert which in this Case is not attended with a true Title For who shall judge of the desert of Competitors If the person himself then every usurper will cry up his own worthinesse If his party they will make him most meriting whom they favour most in their fancies This will unsettle all States cassat all Titles and cause much distraction But believing no Il at all intended in these his words let us proceed Dr. Heylin Our Author telleth us ibid. That whereas formerly there were manifold Laws in the Land made some by the Britains others by the Danes others by the English c. He caused some few of the best to be selected and the rest as captious and unnecessary to be rejected from whence they had the name of the Common Laws That the Common-Law was so call'd because compounded of the Saxon British and Danish Lawes which were before of force onely in such places where the Danes Britans and Saxons had the greatest sway though it be easie to be said will be hard to be proved The Britains at that time liv'd under their own Princes and were governed by their own Lawes and so they were for a long time after so that King Edward having no dominion over them could not impose a Law upon them Nor was it propable that he should borrow any of their Laws or impose them on his natural Subjects considering the antipathy and disaffection betwixt the Nations There were at that time indeed in England three kindes of Laws The first called Dane-lage or the Danish Laws prevailing for the most part in the Kingdome of the East-Angles and that of Northumberland Secondly Saxon-lage used generally in the Kingdoms of the West-Saxons East-Saxons South-Saxons and that of Kent And thirdly Mercen-lage extending over all the Provinces of the Kingdome of Mercia As for the Britans of Cornwall and Cumberland they had no distinct Law for themselves as had those of Wales but were governed by the Laws of that Nation unto which they were Subject By these three sorts of Laws were these Nations governed in their several and respective limits which being afterwards reduced into one body and made common equally to all the subjects did worthily deserve the name of the Common-Law But secondly I dare not give the honour of this Action to King Edward the Confessor The great Iustinian in this work was another Edward called for distinctions sake King Edward the elder who began his Reign Anno 900. almost 150 years before this Confessor to whom our Author hath ascribed it But the truth is that these Laws being suppressed by the Danish Kings who governed either in an arbitrary way or by Laws of their own Countrey they were revived and reinforced in the time of this Edward from whence they had the name of Edward the Confessors Laws and by that name were sued and fought for in the time succeeding of which more hereafter Now as this work may be ascribed to his love to Justice so from his piety his successors derive as great a benefit of curing the disease which from thence is called the Kings-Evill which some impute as our Author tells us to secret and hidden causes Fuller This long Note might well have been boiled down from a Gallon to a Gil to make it more cordial If the Reader can pick any information out of it much good may it doe him Let the honour of so good a Deed with all my heart be parted betwixt the two Edwards one the Beginner the other the finisher thereof Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 145. Others ascribe it to the power of fancy and an exalted imagination Amongst which others I may reckon our Author for one He had not else so strongly pleaded in defence thereof But certainly what effect soever the strength of fancy and an exalted imagination as our Author calls it may produce in those of riper years it can contribute nothing to the cure of children And I have seen some children brought before the King by the hanging sleeves some hanging at their Mothers breasts and others in the arms of their Nurses all touch'd and cur'd without the help of any such fancies or imaginations as our Author speaks of Fuller If I be reckoned amongst them I am mis-reckoned for though I conceive fancy may much conduce in Adultis thereunto yet I believe it partly Miraculous as may appear by my last and largest insisting thereon I say partly because a compleat Miracle is done presently and perfectly whereas this cure is generally advanced by Degrees and some Dayes interposed Dr. Heylin Others lesse charitably condemn this cure as guilty of
the Canon devested of the power of Doing it such vendition and emption being by the Common-Law preserved unto them though now very commendably long disused And whereas the Clergy in their Answer pretend all their Canons grounded on the Word of God I would fain be informed where they finde in the New-Testament which ought to regulate their proceedings that the power of the Church extendeth to life limb or estate Sure I am her censures appear spiritual on the soul by those expressions Binde on Earth Cast out Deliver to Satan c. But because the Reader reserveth a lager prosecution of this point for another time we will also respit our larger answer hereunto Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 24. Indeed 1. Davids had been Christian some hundred of years whilest Canterbury was yet Pagan Not many hundred years I am sure of that nor yet so many as to make a plural number by the Latin Grammer Kent being conquered by the Saxons who brought in Paganism Anno 455. Converted unto Christianity by the preaching of Austin Anno 569. Not much more than 140. years betwixt the one and the other Fuller The Christian Antiquity of St. David bare a double Date one native or inherent the other adopted and Reputative 1. The Inherent from the time that St. David fixed there on which account I believe it was no more than 140. years senior to Canterbury 2. The Reputative from the first founding of a Bishoprick at Carleon by King Lucius which indifferently stated was about the year of our Lord 169 which was four hundred years before Canterbury Now it is notoriously known that the antiquity of Carleon whence the See was removed in computation of the seniority is adjected to St. Davids her adopted Daughter Hence was it that the Abbot of Bancar in his Answer unto Austin acknowledged himself and his Convent under the Government of the Bishop of Carleon upon Uske though then no Bishop therein meaning St. Davids thereby as Dr. Hammond and others doe unanimously allow Thus grafting St. Davids as it ought on the Stock of Carleon it is senior in Christianity to Canterbury four hundred years and FOUR may be termed Some in the stricktest propriety of Language Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 29. To whose honour he viz. King Stephen erected St. Stephens Chappel in Westminster neer the place where lately the Court of Requests was kept Our Author is here mealy mouth'd and will not parler le tout as the French men say For otherwise he might have told us that this Chappel is still standing and since the surrendry of it to King Edward the sixth hath been used for a Parliament House imployed to that purpose by the Commons as it still continueth What might induce our Author to be thus reserved I can hardly tell unless it be to prevent such inferences and observations which by some wanton wits might be made upon it Fuller I hope rather some gracious hearts will make pious improvement thereupon praying to God that seeing so many signal persons are now assembled therein the very place once dedicated as a Chappel to St. Stephen may be their more effectual Remembrancer to imitate the purity and piety of that renowned Saint That so God may be invited graciously to be present amongst them to over-rule all their consultations to his Glory the Good of the Church and State and the true honour of the Nation And to this let every good man say Amen Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 40. By the same title from his Father Jeffery Plantagenet be possessed fair lands in Anjou and Maine I had thought he had possessed somewhat more in Anjou and Maine than some fair Lands onely his Father Ieffrey Plantagenet being the Proprietary Earl of Anjou Maine and Toureine not a titular onely succeeded in the same by this King Henry and his two sons Richard and Iohn till lost unhappily by the last with the rest of our Estates on that side of the Sea From this Ieffery descended fourteen Kings of the name of Plantagenet the name not yet extinguished though it be improverished Our Author speaking of one of them who was found not long since at the Plow Lib. 2. p. 170. Another of that name publishing a Book about the Plantation of New-Albion Anno 1646. or not long before Fuller The frequent and familiar figure of MOISIS will rectifie all wherby lesse is said than meant and therefore more must be understood than is said Besides it made me mince my expression being loath to exceed because this Ieffery did not to me appear though the Earl so intire in those Dominions but that the Kings of France and England had Cities and Castles interposed therein Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 53. King John sent a base degenerous and unchristian Embassage to Admitalius Mutmelius a Mahometan King of Morocco then very puissant and possessing a great part of Spain This Admiralius Murmelius as our Author and the old Monks call him was by his own name called Mahomet Enaser the Miramomoline of Morocco to whom if King Iohn sent any such Message it was as base unchristian and degenerate as our Author makes it Fuller I will ingenuously confesse that the first time I found this Story was in the Doctors Miâ—ro-cosm the novelty making me take the more notice thereof Though since I have met with it in M. Paris the fountain and other Authors the channels thereof I conceive it was as lawfull for me to relate it as for the Animadvertor who epitheis this Embassy BASE DEGENEROUS and UNCHRISTIAN the words which in me he reproveth Dr. Heylin But being the credit of the Tale depends upon the credit of the Monkish Authors to which brood of men that King was known to be a prosessed Enemy hating and hated by one another it is not to be esteemed so highly as a piece of Apocrypha and much lesse to be held for Gospel Fuller Here he rather speaks aliter than alia from what I had written on the same Subject who thus concluded the Character of King Iohn Church-Hist Book 3. pag. 54. We onely behold him Him thorough such a Light as the Friers his foes shew him in who so hold the candle that with the Shadow thereof they darken his virtues and present onely his Vices yea and as if they had also poysoned his memory they cause his faults to swell to a prodigious greatnesse making him with their pens more black in conditions than the Morocco King whose aid he requested could be in complexion Here I desire to give the Reader a â—aste of what doth frequently occur in this Book and of what I justly did complain viz. the Animadvertor sometimes not liking my language as not proper and expressive enough substituteth his own with little or no variation of matter I confesse he is not bound to use my words and such variations simply in it self is no wrong unto me but it becometh
principal Articles and main branches of it Fuller It is an hard question and yet perchance more dangerous than difficult to answer but the reason I dare alledge is this Even so Father because it pleased thee Let me add that such conscientious observers thereof which have proved unsuccessefull may esteem their losses as Sweet-Bryar and Holy-Thistle and more cordially comfort themselves in such sanctified afflictions than the Infringers of their Charter could content themselves in their successefull oppression I cannot part from this point till I have inserted that Sir Robert Cotton one who had in him as much of the Gentleman Antiquarie Lawyer good Subject and good Patriot as any in England was the Author in his short view of the long reign of King Henry the third who made the observation of those most successefull Kings by whom the Grand-Charter was most conscienciously observed Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 88. The poor Jews durst not goe into France whence lately they had been solemnly banished but generally disposed themselves in Germany and Italy The poor Iews are more beholding to our Author for his commiseration than the high Royalists as he cals them in the former passage But poor or rich they might have passed safely into France had they been so minded For though he tell us that they had been solemnly banished out of France before this time yet either such banishment was repealed or temporary only or as I rather think not so much as sentenced Certain I am our learned Brerewood upon a diligent enquiry hath found it otherwise than our Author doth letting us know That the first Countrey in Christendome whence the Jews were expelled without hope of return was our Countrey of England whence they were banished Anno 1290. by King Edward the first and not long after out of France Anno 1307. by Philippus Pulcher. Not out of France first out of England afterwards as our Author would have it Fuller I wonder any good Christians would be offended with me for pittying them by the name poor Iews If any High royalist as I fear there is too many be in low Estate would it were as well in my power to relieve as to pitty them Till when they shall have my prayers that God would give them patience and support them in their deepest distresse The Author will find that though the Great General and Final banishment of the Jews out of France was Anno 1307. under Philip the Fair yet formely there had been Edicts for their Exile thence Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 100. Thus men of yesterday have pride too much to remember what they were the day before An observation true enough but not well applyed The two Spencers whom he speaks this off were not men of yesterday or raised out of the dirt or dunghill to so great an height but of as old and known Nobility as the best in England insomuch that when a question grew in Parliament whether the Baronesse de Spencer or the Lord of Aburgaveny were to have precedency it was adjudg'd unto de Spencer thereby declar'd the ancientest Barony of the Kingdome at that time then being These two Hughâ—he â—he Father was created Earl of Winchester for term of life and Hugh the Son by marrying one of the Daughters and co-heirs of Gilbert de Clare became Earl of Glocester Men more to be commended for their Loyalty than accused for their pride but that the King was now declining and therefore it was held fit by the prevalent faction to take his two supporters from him as they after did Fuller The two Spencers fall under a double consideration and are beheld in History for their extraction either as Absolutely in themselves Comparatively with others Absolutely they were of honourable parentage and I believe the Elder might be born a Baron whose Baronry by the Heir general is still extant in Mildmay Fane Earl of Westmorland and from the younger House of a Male Heir the Lord Spencer of Wormelayton now Earl of Sunderland doth as I have seen in his Pedigree derive himself Comparatively So were they far inferiour to most of those great persons over whom they insulted being originally Earls and some of them of Royall extraction Again the Two Spencers may and ought by an Historian to be considered as to be 1. Commended for their Loyalty 2. Condemned for their Insolency On the first account they deserve just praise and it is probable enough that they finde the lesse Favour from some Pens for being so Faithfull to so unfortunate a Soveraigne The latter cannot be excused appearing too plain in all our Histories Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 113. The Lord Chancellor was ever a Bishop If our Author by this word ever understands 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 most commonly or for the most part he is right enough but then it will not stand with the following words viz. as if it had been against equity to imploy any other therein And on the other side if he take the word ever in its proper and more natural sense as if none but Bishops had ever been advanced unto that office he doth not onely misinform the Reader but confute himself he having told us fol. 31. of this present book that Thomas Becket being then but Archdeacon of Canterbury was made Lord Chancellor and that as soon as he was made Archbishop he resign'd that office But the truth is that not onely men in holy Orders but many of the Laity also had attained that dignity as will appear to any who will take the pains to consult the Catalogue of the Chancellors and Keepers of the Great Seal in the Glossary of Sir Henry Spelman in which appear not onely some of inferior dignity as Deans Archdeacons House-hold Chaplains but many also not dignified with any Ecclesiastical Title or Notification and therefore in all probability to be looked on as meer Lay-men Counsellors and Servants to the Kings in whose times they lived or otherwise studied in the Laws and of good affections and consequently capable of the place of such trust and power Fuller May the Reader take notice that this complaint was made by the Commons in the 11th of Edward the 3d Anno 1336. Now Ever I here restrain to the oldest man alive then present in Parliament who could not distinctly remember the contrary from the first of King Edward the first who began his Reign 1272. so that for full 64. years an uninterrupted series of Bishops except possibly one put in pro tempore for a moneth or two possessed the place of Chancellors This complaint of the Commons occasioned that the King some three years after viz. in the fifteenth year of his reign conferred the Chancellors place on a Layman But it was not long before things returned to the old channel of Clergy-men and so generally for many years continued with some few and short interpositions of Lay-men Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 116. This year viz. 1350.
as Authors generally agree King Edward instituted the Order of the Garter Right enough as unto the time but much mistaken in some things which relate unto that ancient and most noble Order our Author taking up his Commodities at the second hand neither consulting the Records nor dealing in this businesse with men of credit Fuller I am now come under the Roof of the Animadvertor who by the Laws of Hospitality is bound to treat me the more courteously I mean I am entred into a Subject wherein he is well seen and therefore might favourably connive at my small slips being therein best studied It is severely said that in this businesse I dealt with no men of credit The highest person next the Son of the King wearing a blew Ribbon was pleased so far to favour me as that from his own mouth I wrote the last sheet of my History his Grace endeavouring to be very exact in all particulars Dr. Heylin For first there are not fourteen Canons resident in the Church of Windsor but thirteen onely with the Dean it being King Edwards purpose when he founded that Order consisting of twenty six Knights himself being one to institute as many greater and lesser Canons and as many old Soldiers commonly called poor Knights to be pensioned there Though in this last the number was not made up to his first intention Fuller The mistake such an one as it is shall be amended in my next Edition Dr. Heylin He tells us secondly that if he be not mistaken as indeed he is Sir Thomas Row was the last Chanoellor of the Order Whereas Sir Iames Palmer one of the Gentlemen Huishers of the Privy Chamber succeeded him in the place of Chancellor after his decease Anno 1644. Fuller The Animadvertor is very discourteous to deny me the benefit of the Parenthesis If I be not mistaken The best Authors have their Ni fallor Si quid video Si bene intelligo and the like These are Grains allowed to all Pieces currant in payment Sir Thomas Roe was the last Chancellor who effectually officiated in his place Winsor before the year 1644. being a chief Garrison of the Parliament Tully calls a Consul chosen in the morning and put out before night a Vigilant Consul who never slept in all his Coâ—sulship But on another occasion one may say of Sir Iames Palmer otherwise a worthy Gentleman well deserving that and a better place that He was a very watchfull Chancellor who never slept in Winsor whilst invested in his Office Dr. Heylin He tels us thirdly That there belongs unto it one Register being alwayes the Dean of Winsor which is nothing so For though the Deans of late times have been Registers also yet ab initio non fuit sic it was not so from the beginning The first Dean was also Register being Iohn Boxul Anno 1557. Before which time beginning at the year 1414. there had been nine Registers which were not Deans but how many more before that time I am not able to say their names not being on Record Fuller I say not that the Register alwaies Was the Dean but being alwaies the Dean which relating to our and our fathers memories is right enough but it shall be reformed Dr. Heylin And fourthly he tels us That the Garter is one of the extraordinary Habiliments of the Knights of this Order their ordinary being onely the blew Ribbon about their necks with the Picture of St. George appendant and the Sun in his glory on the left shoulder of their Cloak whereas indeed the Garter is of common wearing and of such necessary use that the Knights are not to be seen abroad without it upon pain of paying two Crowns to any Officer of the Order who shall first claim it unlesse they be to take a journey in which case it is sufficient to wear a blew Ribbon under their Boots to denote the Garter Lastly whereas our Author tells us that the Knights hereof doe weare on the left shoulder of their Cloaks a Sun in his glory and attributes this wearing as some say to King Charles I will first put him out of doubt that this addition was King Charles his then shew him his mistake in the matter it self And first in the first year of that King Apr. 26. 1626. it was thus enacted at a publick Chapter of the Order viz. That all Knights and Companions of the Order shall wear upon the left part of their Cloaks Coats and riding Cassocks at all times when they shall not wear their Roabs and in all places of Assembly an Escocheon of the Armes of St. George id est a Crosse within a Garter not enriched with Pearls or Stones in token of the honour which they hold from the said most noble Order instituted and ordained for persons of the highest worth and honour Our Author secondly may perceive by this Act of the Kings that St. Georges Crosse within the Garter is the main device injoyned to be worn by all the Knights of that noble Order to which the adding of the Sun in his glory served but for ornament and imbellishing and might be either used or not used but onely for conformities sake as they would themselves Fuller This Sun in Glory affords me small light so that I can see but very little if any thing at all which I have to alter Dr. Heylin So many Errors in so few lines one shall hardly meet with Fuller Yea with more in fewer lines even in the Animadvertor himself in laying down the Root and Branches of the noble family of the Montagues Mistakes the more remarkable because done in correction of Mr. Sanderson and making more faults that He mendeth Or rather all is but one mistake resulting from a continued complication of omissions confusions and transpositions Advertisements on the History of the Reign of King Iames pag. 21 22. Fol. 490. Sir Edward Montague had three sonnes Edward the eldest Knight of the Bath c. The Author here is much mistaken in the House of the Montagues For first that Edward Montague who was Knight of the Bath c. was not Brother to Iames Bishop of Winchester and Henry Earl of Manchester but their Brothers Son that is to say the Son of another Edward their eldest Brother Secondly besides that Edward Iames and Henry there was another Brother whom the Author names not though he could not chuse but know the man viz. Sir Sidney Montague one of the Masters of the Requests to the late King Charles Therefore to set this matter right I am to let both him and his Readers know that Sir Edward Montague chief Justice in the time of King Edward the sixth was father of another Edward who lived peaceably and nobly in his own Country To whom succeeded a third Edward who sought for honour in the Wars and gained the reputation of a good Commander the elder Brother of Iames Henry and Sidney before mentioned and the father of a fourth Edward who
was made Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of King Iames Anno 1603. and afterwards created Lord Montague of Boughton in the nineteenth year of that King Anno 1621. which honourable Title is now enjoyed by his Son another Edward Anno 1658. And thirdly though I grant that Dr. Iames Montague Bishop of Winchester the second Brother of the four was of great power and favour in the time of King Iames. Thus far Dr. Heylin out of his Advertisements written in correction of Mr. Sandersons History of the Reign of King Iames. To rectifie this heap of Errors not to be paralleled in any Author pretending to the emendation of another I have here plainly set down the Male-pedegree of this Noble Numerous and successfull Family 1 Sir Edward Montague Lord Chief Justice in the Reign of King Henry the eighth 2 Sir Edward Montague a worthy Patriot in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth Sir Walter Montague Knight second Son died without Issue Sir Henry Montague third Son Earl of Manchester Lord Chief Justice Lord Treasurer c. Edw. Montague now Earl of Manchester besides other Sons 3 Sir Edward Montague made Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of King Iames never a Martialist and created by Him Baron Montague of Boughton dying in the beginning of the Civill Warres William Mountague Esq of the Middle-Temple second Son 4 Edward now Lord Montague of Boughton Ralfe Montague Esq second Son Edward Montague Esq eldest Son Christopher Montague third Son died before his Father being a most hopefull Gentleman Sir Charles Montague fourth Son who did good service in Ireland and left three Daughters and Co-heirs Iames Montague fifth Son Bishop of Winchester died unmarried Sir Sidney Montague sixth Son Master of the Requests Edward Montague now Admirall and one of the Lords of the Councel I presume the Animadvertor will allow me exact in this Family which hath reflected so fauourably upon me that I desire and indeed deserve to live no longer than whilest I acknowledg the same THE FOURTH BOOK From the first preaching of Wickliffe to the beginning of the Reign of King Henry the eighth Dr. Heylin OUR Author begins this Book with the Story of Wickliffe and continueth it in relating the successes of him and his followers to which he seems so much addicted as to Christen their Opinions by the name of the Gospel For speaking of such incouragements and helps as were given to Wickliffe by the Duke of Lancaster with other advantages which the conditions of those times did afford unto him he addeth That Fol. 129. We must attribute the main to Divine Providence blessing the Gospel A name too high to be bestowed upon the Fancies of a private man many of whose Opinions were so far from truth so contrary to peace and civil Order so inconsistent with the Government of the Church of Christ as make them utterly unworthy to be look'd on as a part of the Gospel Or if the Doctrines of Wickliffe must be call'd the Gospel what shall become of the Religion then establisht in the Realm of England and in most other parts of the Western World Were all but Wickliffes Followers relaps'd to Heathenism were they turn'd Jews or had imbrac'd the Law of Mahomet If none of these and that they still continued in the faith of Christ delivered to them in the Gospels of the four Evangelists and other Apostolicall Writers Wickliffes new Doctrines could not challenge the name of Gospel noâ— ought it to be given to him by the Pen of any But such is the humor of some men as to call every separation from the Church of Rome by the name of Gospel the greater the separation is the more pure the Gospel No name but that of Evangelici would content the Germans when they first separated from that Church and reformed their own And Harry Nichols when he separated from the German Churches and became the Father of Familists bestows the name of Evangelium Regni on his Dreams and Dotages Gospels of this kinde we have had and may have too many quot Capita tâ—t Fides as many Gospels in a manner as Sects and Sectaries if this world goe on Now as Wickliffes Doctrines are advanc'd to the name of Gospel so his Followers whatsoever they were must be called Gods servants the Bishops being said fol. 151. to be busie in persecuting Gods servants and for what crime soever they were brought to punishment it must be thought they suffered onely for the Gospel and the service of God A pregnant evidence whereof we have in the story of Sir Iohn Oldcastle accused in the time of King Harry the fifth for a design to kill the King and his Brethren actually in Arms against that King in the head of 20000 men attainted for the same in open Parliament and condemn'd to die and executed in St. Giles his Fields accordingly as both Sir Roger Acton his principal Counsellor and 37 of his Accomplices had been before For this we have not onely the Authority of our common Chronicles Walsingham Stow and many others but the Records of the Tower and Acts of Parliament as is confessed by our Author fol. 168. Yet coming out of Wickliffes Schools and the chief Scholar questionlesse which was train'd up in them he must be Registred for a Martyr in Fox his Calendar And though our Author dares not quit him as he sayes himself yet such is his tendernesse and respect to Wickliffes Gospel that he is loath to load his Memory with causlesse Crimes fol. 167. taxeth the Clergie of that time for their hatred to him discrediteth the relation of T. Walsingham and all later Authors who are affirm'd to follow him as the Flock their Belweather and finally leaves it as a special verdict to the last day of the Revelation of the righteous Iudgements of God Fuller First I fain would know whether the Animadvertor would be contented with the Condition of the Church of England as Wickliffe found it for Opinions and Practise and doth not earnestly desire a Reformation thereof I am charitably confident that He doth desire such an Emendation and therefore being both of us agreed in this Point of the convenience yea necessity thereof in the second place I would as fain be satisfied from the Animadvertor whether He conceived it possible that such Reformation could be advanced without Miracle all on a sodain so that many grosse Errors would not continue and some new one be superadded The man in the Gospel first saw men walking as trees before he saw perfectly Nature hath appointed the Twilight as a Bridge to passe us out of Night into Day Such false and wild opinions like the Scales which fell down from the Eyes of St. Paul when perfectly restored to his sight have either vanished or been banished out of all Protestant Confession Far be it from me to account the rest of England relapsed into Atheism or lapsed in Iudaism Turcism c. whom I behold as Erronious Christians
at this present Fuller It is a sad Truth which the Animadvertor sayeth And here I cannot but remember David his expression when flying from Absalom If I shall find favour in the Eyes of the Lord he will bring me again But if he say I have no delight in thee behold here I am c. If it be coâ—sistent with the good will and pleasure of God in due time he will Boy up again the sunk credit of the Clergy if not all must submit to him whose wayes are often above reason never against right Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 156. Yea this very Statute which gave power to a Bishop in his Diocess to condemn an Heretick plainly proveth that the King by consent of Parliament directed the proceedings of the Ecclesiastical Court in Cases of Heresie The Bishops and Clergy in their Convocations had anciently the power of declaring Heresie the Bishops singly in their Consistories to proceed against them by injoyning penance and recantation or otherwise to subject them to Excommunication The Statute which our Author speaks of being 2 H. 4. c. 15. proceedeth further and ordain'd in favour of the Church that the Ordinary might not onely convent but imprison the party suspected of Heresie and that the party so convented and convicted of Heresie and continuing obstinate in the same should upon a certificate thereof made and delivered to the Secular Judge be publickly burned before the People In order whereunto as in a matter which concern'd the life of a Subject the King with the advice of his Parliament might lay down some rules for the regulating the proceedings of the Bishops and other Ordinaries Fuller There be two distinct things which in this Point must be severally considered 1. To declare and define what shall be accounted Heresie 2. To condemne to Death a declared Heretick The Power of the former was in this Age fixed in the Bishops without any competition and is so clear none can question it Yea by the same Power they might proceed against a declared Heretick without any leave or liceence from King or Parliament so far as Church-Censures Suspensions Excommunications c. could extend But as for the latter to condemn them to Death herein the Common-Law began where the Cannon Law ended and regulated their proceedings accordingly Dr. Heylin But certainly it is a sorry piece of Logick to conclude from hence that generally in all cases of Heresie the King with advice of his Parliament directed the proceedings of the Ecclesiastical Courts A piece of Logick shall I call it or a Fallacy rather a Fallacy à dâ—cto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter committed commonly when from a proposition which is true onely in some respect with reference to time place and other circumstances the Sophister inferreth something as if simply true though in it self it be most absolutely false As for example The Pope even in matters of spiritual cognisance for so it followeth in our Author had no power over the life 's of the English Subjects and therefore had then no power to proceed against them in point of Heresie Fuller I intended not nor have I abused the Reader with any fallacious argumentation It is true 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the King and Parliament directed the proceedings of the Ecclesiastical Court in cases of Heresie I mean not to decide which were Heresies but to order the Power of the Bishop over declared Hereticks without the direction of the Statute not to proceed to Limb and Life And I believe my words will be found transcribed out of Sir Edward Coke his most elaborate Report of the Kings power in Ecclesiastical matters Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 161. Henry the seventh born in the Bowels of Wales at Pembroke c. some years after plucked down the Partition Wall betwixt them Neither so nor so For first Pembroke doth not stand in the Bowels of Wales but almost on the outside of it as being situate on one of the Creeks of Milford-Haven Fuller Pembroke though verging to the Sea may properly be called in the Bowels of Wales beholding the Marches next England as the outward Skin thereof Bowels are known to the Latines by the name of Penetralia à penetrando one must pierce and passe so farre from the outward skin before one can come at them So is Pembroke placed in the very Penetrals of Wales seeing the Travailer must goe six-score miles from England before he can come thither Dr. Heylin And secondly King Henry the seventh did not break down the Partition Wall between Wales and England That was a work reserved for King Harry the eighth in the 27. of whose Reign there past an Act of Parliament by which it was enacted That the Country of Wales should be stand and continue for ever from thenceforth incorporated united and annexed to and with this Realm of England And that all and singular person and persons born and to be born in the said Principality Country or Dominion of Wales shall have enjoy and inherit all and singular Freedoms Liberties Rights Priviledges and Laws within this Realm and other the Kings Dominions as other the Kings Subjects naturally born within the same have and injoy and inherit And thirdly between the time which our Author speaks of being the 14 year of King Henry the fourth and the making of this Act by King Henry the eighth there passed above an hundred and twenty years which intimates a longer time than some years after as our Author words it Fuller Far be it from me to set variance betwixt Father and Son and to make a Partition Wall betwixt them which of them first did break down the Partition Wall betwixt Wales and England The intentions of King Henry the seventh were executed by King Henry the eighth and all shall be reformed in my Book accordingly Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 168. I will not complain of the dearnesse of this Universitie where seventeen weeks cost me more than seventeen years in Cambridge even all that I had The ordinary and unwary Reader might collect from hence that Oxford is a chargeable place and that all commodities there are exceeding dear but that our Author lets him know that it was on some occasion of disturbance Fuller He must be a very Ordinary and unwary Reader indeed or an Extraordinary one if you please of no common weakness or willfulnesse so to understand my words which plainly expound themselves Dr. Heylin By which it seems our Author doth relate to the time of the War when men from all parts did repair to Oxford not as a University but a place of safety and the seat Royal of the King at which time notwithstanding all provisions were so plentifull and at such cheap rates as no man had reason to complain of the dearnesse of them No better argument of the fertility of the soil and richnesse of the Country in which Oxford standeth than that the Markets were not raised on
that the Doctor sayes is this that as the University of Cambridge was of a later foundation then Oxford was so it was long before it grew into esteem that is to say to such a measure of esteem at home or abroad before the building of Kings Colledge and the rest that followed but that the King might use those words in his discourse with the Bishop of Winchester And for the Narrative the Doctor whom I have talked with in this businesse doth not shame to say that he borrowed it from that great Treasury of Academical Antiquities Mr. Brian Twine whose learned Works stand good against all Opponents and that he found the passage justified by Sir Isaack Wake in his Rex Platonicus Two Persons of too great wit and judgement to relate a matter of this nature on no better ground than common Table-talk and that too spoke in merriment by Sir Henry Savil. Assuredly Sir Henry Savil was too great a Zealot for that University and too much a friend to Mr. Wake who was Fellow of the same Colledge with him to have his Table-talk and discourses of merriment to be put upon Record as grounds and arguments for such men to build on in that weighty Controversie And therefore when our Author tells us what he was told by Mr. Hubbard Mr. Hubbard by Mr. Barlow Mr. Barlow by Mr. Bust and Mr. Bust by Sir Henry Savil. It brings into my minde the like Pedegree of as true a Story even that of Mother Miso in Sir Philip Sidney telling the young Ladies an old Tale which a good old woman told her which an old wise man told her which a great learned Clerk told him and gave it him in writing and there she had it in her Prayer-book as here our Author hath found this on the end of his Creed Not much unlike to which is that which I finde in the Poet Quae Phaebo Pater omnipotens mihi Phoebus Apollo Praedixâ—t vobis Furiarum ego maxima pando That is so say What Iove told Phoebus Phoebus told to me And I the chief of Furies tell to thee Fuller The controversie betwixt us consists about a pretended Speech of King Henry the sixth to Bishop Wainfleet perswading him to found a Colledge at Oxford To whom the King is said to return Yea rather at Cambridge that if it be possible I may have two Universities in England A passage pregnant with an Inference which delivereth it self without any Midwifry to help it viz. that till the time of King Henry the sixth Cambridge was no or but an obsâ—ure University both being equally untrue The Animadvertor will have the speech grounded on good Authority whilest I more than suspect to have been the frolick of the fancie of S. Isaack Wake citing my Author for my beliefe which because removed four descents is I confesse of the lesse validity Yet is it better to take a Truth from the tenth than a Falshood from the first hand Both our Relations ultimately terminate in Sir Isaack Wake by the Animadvertor confessed the first printed Reporter thereof I confess S. I. Wake needed none but Sr. Isaack Wake to attest the truth of such thing which he had heard or seen himself In such Case his bare Name commandeth credit with Posterity But relating a passage done at distance some years before his great Grandfather was rockt in his Cradle we may and must doe that right to our own Iudgement as civily to require of him security for what he affirmeth especially seeing it is so clog'd with such palpable improbabilitie Wherefore till this Knights invisible Author be brought forth into light I shall remain the more confirmed in my former Opinion Rex Platonicus alone sounding to me in this point no more than Plato's Commonwealth I mean a meer Wit work or Brain-Being without any other real existence in Nature Dr. Heylin But to proceed Fol. 190. This was that Nevil who for Extraction Estate Alliance Dependents Wisdome Valour Success and Popularity was superiour to any English Subject since the Conquest Our Author speaks this of that Richard Nevil who was first Earl of Warwick in right of Anne his Wife Sister Heir of Henry Beauchamp the last of that Family and after Earl of Salisbury by discent from his Father a potent and popular man indeed but yet not in all or in any of those respects to be match'd with Henry of Bullenbrook son to Iohn of Gaunt whom our Author must needs grant to have lived since the time of the Conquest Which Henry after the death of his Father was Duke of Lancaster and Hereford Earl of Leicester Lincoln and Darby c. and Lord High Steward of England Possessed by the donation of King Henry the third of the County Palatine of Lancaster the forfeited Estates of Simon de Montfort Earl of Leicester Robert de Ferrars Earl of Darby and Iohn Lord of Monmouth By the compact made between Thomas Earl of Lancaster and Alice his Wife of the Honor of Pomfret the whole Estate of the Earl of Lincoln and a great part of the Estates of the Earl of Salisbury of the goodly Territories of Ogmore and Kidwelly in Wales in right of his descent from the Chaworths of the Honor and Castle of Hartford by the grant of King Edward the third and of the Honor of Tickhill in Yorkshire by the donation of King Richard the second and finally of a Moity of the vast Estate of Humphry de Bohun Earl of Hereford Essex and Northampton in right of his Wife So royal in his Extraction that he was Grandchilde unto one King Cousin-german to another Father and Grand-father to two more So popular when a private person and that too in the life of his Father that he was able to raise and head an Army against Richard the Second with which he discomfited the Kings Forces under the command of the Duke of Ireland So fortunate in his Successes that he not onely had the better in the Battail mentioned but came off with Honor and Renown in the War of Africk and finally obtained the Crown of England And this I trow renders him much Superior to our Authors Nevil whom he exceeded also in this particular that he dyed in his bed and left his Estates unto his Son But having got the Crown by the murther of his Predecessor it stai'd but two descents in his Line being unfortunately lost by King Henry the sixth of whom being taken and imprisoned by those of the Yorkish Faction our Author telleth us Fuller It never came into my thoughts to extend the Parallel beyond the line of Subjection confining it to such as moved only in that Sphere living and dying in the Station of a Subject and thus far I am sure I am â—ight that this our Nevil was not equal'd much lesse exceeded by any English-man since the Conquest As for Henry Duke of Lancaster his Coronet was afterwards turned into a Crown and I never intended comparison with one who became a
the Victory so he staid long enough to have lost it Fuller Though a courteous Prolepsis might salve all the matter yet to prevent exceptions in my next Edition the Lord shall be degraded into Sir William Stanley THE FIFTH BOOK Relating to the time of King Henry the Eight Dr. Heylin WE are now come to the busie times of King Henry the Eight in which the power of the Church was much diminisht though not reduced to such ill terms as our Author makes it We have him here laying his foundations to overthrow that little which is left of the Churches Rights His super-structures we shall see in the times ensuing more seasonable for the practise of that Authority which in this fifth Book he hammereth onely in the speculation Fuller I deny and defie any such Designe to overthrow the foundations of the Churches right If the foundations be destroyed what can the righteous doe Iâ— my Back could butterresse them up it should not be wanting However I am not sensible that any such invasion was made on the true property of the Church but that the King resumed what by God was invested in him and what by the Pope was unjustly taken from him though none can justifie every particular in the managery of the Reformation Dr. Heylin But first we will begin with such Animadversions as relate unto this time and story as they come in our way leaving such principles and positions as concern the Church to the close of all where we shall draw them all together that our discourse and observations thereupon may come before the Reader without interruption And the first thing I meete with is a fault of Omission Dr. Newlen who succeeded Dr. Iackson in the Presidentship of Corpus Christi Colledge in Oxford Anno 1640 by a free election and in a statutable way being left out of our Authors Catlogue of the Presidents of C. C. C. in Oxford fol. 166. and Dr. Stanton who came in by the power of the Visitors above eight years after being placed therein Which I thought fit though otherwise of no great moment to take notice of that I might doe the honest man that right which our Author doth not Fuller Would the Animadvertor had given me the Christian as well as the Sirâ—name of the Doctor that I may enter it in my next Edition But I will endeavour some other wayes to recover it Such and greater Omisions often attend the Pens of the most exact Authors Witnesse the Lord Stanhop created Baron of Harington in Narthampton-shire â—ertio Iacobi left out in all the Editions Latine and English of the Industrious and Judicious Mr. Camden though his junior Baron the Lord Arundel of Wardour be there inserted This his omission proceeded not from the least neglect as I protest my Innocence in the casual preterition of Dr. Newlen Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 168. King Henry endeavoured an uniâ—ormity of Grammer all over his Dominions that so youths though changing their School-Masters might keep their learning That this was endeavoured by King Henry and at last enjoyned I shall easily grant But then our Author should have told us if at least he knew it that the first hint thereof proceeded from the Convocation in the year 1530 in which complaint being made Quod multiplex varius in Scholis Grammaticalibus modus esset docendi c. That the multiplicitie of Grammers did much hurt to learning it was thought meet by the Prelates and Clergy then assembled Ut una eadem edatur formula auctoritate hujus sacrae Synodi in qualibet singula Schola Grammaticali per Cantuariensem Provinciam usitanda edocenda that is to say that one onely form of teaching Grammar should be enjoyned from thenceforth by the Authority of the Convocation to be used in all the Grammar Schools of the Province of Canterbury Which being so agreed upon Lilly then Schoolmaster of St. Pauls School was thought the fittest man for that undertaking and he performed his part so well that within few years after it was enjoyned by the Kings Proclamation to be used in all the Schools throughout the Kingdom But here we are to note withall that our Author anticipates this businesse placing it in the eleventh year of this King Anno 1519. whereas the Convocation took not this into consideration till the eighth of March Anno 1530. and certainly would not have medled in it then if the King had setled and enjoyned it so long before Fuller The Animadvertor discovers much indiscretion in cavelling at a well-timed truth in my Book and substituting a falshood in the room thereof The endeavor of Henry the eight for uniformity of Grammar throughout all his Dominions begun as I have placed it one thousand five hundred and nineteen William Lillie being the prime person imployed for the composure thereof Indeed it met not with universal Reception for some years babits not being easily deposed and therefore the Convocation concurring with the Kings pleasure therein added their assistance in the year 1530. as the Animadvertor observeth and soon after by the Kings Proclamation the matter was generally effected But whereas he sayth That after that time 1530. William Lillye was thought the fittest man for that undertaking Let me tell him That a man dead five if not eight years before was not fit to make a Grammar I appeal to Bale and Pitts both which render William Lillye to dye in the year 1525. but mistaken herein For indeed he dyed three years before if the Epitaph on his Monument made by his sonne George Lillye may be believed in a brass plate near the great North dore of St. Pauls Gulielmo Lilio Paulinae Scholae olim Preceptori Primario Agneti Conjugi in Sacratissimo hujus Templi coemiterio hinc à tergo nunc destructo consepultis Georgius Lillius hujus Ecclesiae Canonicus parentum memoriae piae consulens Tabellam hanc ab amicis conservatam hic reponendam curavit Obiit ille G. L. Anno Dom. 1522. Calend. Mart. Vixit annos 54. Wherefore this unnecessary Animadversion to correct what was right before might very well have been spared Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 168. Howsoever it is probable some other Gardiner gathered the Flowers made the Collections though King Henry had the honor to wear the Posie I am not ignorant that the making of the Kings Book against Martin Luther is by some Popish Writers ascribed to Dr. Iohn Fisher then Bishop of Rochester But this Cavil was not made till after this King had rejected the Popes Supremacy and consequently the lesse credit to be given unto it It is well known that his Father King Henry the seventh designed him for the Archbishoprick of Canterbury and to that end caused him to be trained up in all parts of learning which might enable him for that place But his eldest brother Prince Arthur dying and himself succeeding in the Crown though he had laid aside the thoughts of being
Wife to King Henry the eighth being then actually in the bed of another Henry c. Fuller Margaret who shall be amended Dutchesse of Alanzon was Here I mean not just in this year but in this businesse afterwards designed by Wolsy for a Wife to King Henry Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 178. Yet had he the whole Revenues of York Archbishoprick worth then little lesse than four thousand pounds yearly besides a large Pension paid him out of the Bishoprick of Winchester And a large Pension it was indeed if it were a Pension which amounted to the whole Revenue c. Fuller For quietnesse sake he shall have the whole Bishoprick though I have read that after Wolsey fell in the Kings displeasure his revenue in Winchester which he kept in Commendam was reduced to a Pension Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 184. The Clergy of the Province of Canterbury alone bestowed on the King One hundred thousand pounds to be paid by equall portions in the same year say some in four years say others and that in my opinion with more probabily Here have we three Authors for one thing some others and our Author himself more knowing than all the rest in his own opinion But all out alike This great summe was not to be paid in one year nor in four years neither but to be paid by equall portions that is to say by twenty thousand pound per annum in the five years following c. Fuller Not reckoning the first summe which was paid down on the Nail that had just four years assigned them for the payment of the remainder Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 186. But he might have remembred which also produced the peerlesse Queen Elizabeth who perfected the Reformation Either our Author speaks not this for his own opinion as in that before or if he doe it is an opinion of his own in which he is not like to finde many followers The Puritan party whom he acts for in all this work will by no means grant it comparing that most excellent Lady in their frequent Pasquils to an idle Huswife who sweeps the middle of the house to make a shew but leaves all the dirt and rubbish behind the door The grand Composers of the Directory doe perswade themselves that if the first Reformers had been then alive they would have joyned with them in the work and laboured for a further Reformation And what else hath been clamoured for during all her Reign and the Ring leaders of the Faction endeavoured ever since her death but to carry on the work of Reformation from one step to another till they had brought it unto such a perfection as they vainly dreamt of and of which now we feel and see the most bitter consequences And as for the Prelatical party the high Royallists as our Author calls them they conceive the Reformation was not so perfected in the time of that prudent Queen but that there was somewhat left to doe for her two Successors that is to â—ay the altering of some Rubricks in the Book of Common-prayer the adding of some Collects at the end of the Letany the enlargement of the common Catechism a more exact translation of the Bible than had been before the setling of the Church upon the Canons of 603. and finally a stricter and more hopefull course for suppressing Popery and for the maintenance both of conformity and uniformity by the Canons of 640. Fuller I have the company of many honest and learned men going before with or after me in the same opinion Perfection in relation to the Church is two-fold Absolute or Exact Gradual or Comparative The former is onely Christs work to perform for whom alone the honor is reserved to present the Church without spot or wrinkle to his father The latter viz. Gradual and Comparative Perfection may be attributed to particular militant Churches Queen Elizabeth did gradually perfect the Reformation leaving it in a farre better condition than she found it in in the reign of King Edward the sixth Yet doe I not deny but that her Successors made commendable additions thereunto notwithstanding all whose endeavors I doubt not but still something did remain to be amended So that it will be perfectio perficienda as long as the Church is militant The Animadvertor must not strain up perfection when appliable to any Church on Earth too high to the Pin with which the spirits of just men are made perfect For as long as the Church hath a FORME on Earth it will be subject to deformities and consequently will need reformation Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 187. And now I cannot call King Henry a Batchelor because once married nor a married man because having no wife nor properly a Widower because his wife was not dead Our Author speaks this of Henry the eighth immediatly after his divorce but is much mistaken in the matter King Henry was so averse from living without a Wife that he thought it more agreeable to his constitution to have two Wives together than none at all To that end while the businesse of the Divorce remained undecided he was married privately to the Lady Anne Bullen on the 14 of November c. Fuller It will rectifie all if I change those words having no wife into as yet publiquely owning no wife which shall be done accordingly Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 208. Though many wilde and distempered Expressions be found therein yet they contain the Protestant Religion in Oare which since by Gods blessing is happily refined Our Author speaks this of a Paper containing many erronious Doctrines presented by the Prolocutor to the Convocation some few of which as being part of Wickliffs Gospel and chief ingredients in the Composition of the new Protestant Religion lately taken up I shall here subjoyn 1. That the Sacrament of the Altar is nothing else but a piece of bread or a little predie Round-Robin 2. That Priests have no more Authority to minister Sacraments than the Lay-men have 3. That all Ceremonies accusâ—omed in the Church which are not clearly expressed in Scripture must be taken away because they are Mens inventions 4. That the Church commonly so called is the old Synagogue and that the Church is the Congregation of good men onely 5. That God never gave grace nor knowledge of holy Scripture to any great Estate or rich man and that they in no wise follow the same 6. That all things ought to be common 7. That it is as lawfull to Christen a child in a Tub of water at home or in a Ditch by the way as in a Font-stone in the Church 8. That it is no sin or offence to eat White-meats Egges Butter Cheese or Flesh in Lent or other Fasting dayes commanded by the Church and received by consent of Christian people 9. That it is as lawfull to eat flesh on Good-Friday as upon Easter-day or other times in the year 10. That the
certainly before the Statute of Praemunire for that the whole Clergy in their Convocation should publiquely declare and avow a notorious falshood especially in a matter of fact is not a thing to be imagined I must confesse my self to be at a losse in this intricate Labyrinth unless perhaps there were some critical difference in those elder times between a Synod and a Convocation the first being call'd by the Arch-bishops in their several and respective Provinces as the necessities of the Church the other only by the King as his occasion and affairs did require the same But whether this were so or not is not much material as the case now stands the Clergie not assembling since the 25 of King Henry the eighth but as they are convocated and convened by the Kings Writ only I only add that the time and year of this submission is mistook by our Author who placeth it in 1533. whereas indeed the Clergy made this acknowledgement and submission in their Convocation Anno 1532. though it pass'd not into an Act or Statute till the year next following Well then suppose the Clergy call'd by the Kings Authority and all their Acts and Constitutions ratified by the Royals assent are they of force to binde the Subject to submit and conform unto them Not if our Author may be judge for he tels us plainly Fol. 191. That even such Convocations with the Royal assent subject not any for recusancie to obey their Canons to a civil penalty in person or property until confirmed by Act of Parliament I marvel where our Author took up this opinion which he neither findes in the Registers of Convocation or Records of Parliament Himself hath told us fol. 190. that such Canons and Constitutions as were concluded on in Synods or Convocations before the passing of the Statute of Praemunire were without any further Ratification obligatory to all subjected to their jurisdiction And he hath told us also of such Convocations as had been called between the passing of the Statute of Praemunire and the Act for Submission that they made Canons which were binding although none other than Synodical Authority did confirm the same Upon which premisses I shall not fear to raise this Syllogism viz. That power which the Clergy had in their Convocations before their submission to the King to binde the Subject by their Canons and Constitutions without any further ratification than own Synodical Authority the same they had when the Kings power signified in his Royal assent was added to them but the Clergy by our Authors own confession had power in their Convocations before their submission to the King to bind the Subject by their Canons and Constitutions without any further ratification than their own Synodical Authority Ergo they had the same power to bind the Subjects when the Kings power signified by the Royal assent was added to them The Minor being granted by our Author as before is shewed the Major is onely to be proved And for the proof hereof I am to put the Reader in minde of a Petition or Remonstrance exhibited to the King by the House of Commons Anno 1532. in which they shewed themselves agrieved that the Clergy of this Realm should act Authoriâ—atively and Supremely in the Convocations and they in Parliament do nothing but as it was confirmed and ratified by Royal assent By which it seems that there was nothing then desired by the House of Commons but that the Convocation should be brought down to the same level with the Houses of Parliament and that their Acts and Constitutions should not binde the Subject as before in their Goods and Possessions until they were confirmed and ratified by the Regal Power The Answer unto which Remonstrance being drawn up by Dr. Gardiner then newly made Bishop of Winchester and allowed of by both Houses of Convocation was by them presented to the King But the King not satisfied with this Answer resolves to bring them to his bent lest else perhaps they might have acted something to the hindrance of his divorce which was at that time in agitation and therefore on the tenth of May he sends a Paper to them by Dr. Fox after Bishop of Hereford in which it was peremptorily required That no Constitution or Ordinance shall be hereafter by the Clergy Enacted Promulged or put in Execution unlesse the Kings Highnesse do approve the same by his high Authority and Royal assent and his advice and favour be also interponed for the execution of every such Constitution among his Highnesse Subjects And though the Clergy on the receipt of this paper remov'd first to the Chappel of St. Katherines and after unto that of St. Dunstan to consult about it yet found they no Saint able to inspire them with a resolution contrary to the Kings desires and therefore upon the Wednesday following being the fifteenth of the same Moneth they made their absolute submission binding themselves in Verbo Sacerdotii not to make or execute any Canons or other Synodical Constitutions but as they were from time to time enabled by the Kings Authority But this submission being made unto the King in his single person and not as in conjunction with his Houses of Parliament could neither bring the Convocation under the command of Parliaments nor render them obnoxiâ—us to the power thereof as indeed it did not But to the contrary hereof it is said by our Author that Fol. 194. He viz. the King by the advice and consent of his Clergy in Convocation and great Councel in Parliament resolved to reform the Church under his inspection from grosse abuses crept into it To this I need no other Answer than our Author himself who though in this place he makes the Parliament to be joyned in Commission with Convocation as if a joynt Agent in that great businesse of Reforming the Church yet in another place he tels us another tale For fol. 188. It will appear saith he and I can tell from whom he saith it upon serious examination that there was nothing done in the Reformation of Religion save what was acted by the Clergy in their Convocations or grounded on some Act of theirs precedent to it with the Advice Counsel and Consent of the Bishops and most eminent Church-men confirmed upon the Postfact and not otherwise by the Civil Sanction according to the usage of the best and happiest times of Christianity So then the Reformation of the Church was acted chiefly by the King with the advice of the Clergy in their Convocation the confirmation on the post-fact by the King in Parliament and that by his leave not in all the Acts and Particulars of it but in some few onely for which consult the Tract entituled The Way and Manner of the Reformation of the Church of England Now as our Author makes the Parliament a joynt Assistant with the King in the Reformation so he conferreth on Parliaments the Supreme Power of ratifying and confirming all Synodical Acts. Fol. 199. The
9 fol. 109. being shrunk to eight and that eight thousand pound not given to one Daughter as is here affirmed but divided equally between two whereof the one was married to Sir Iames Harrington the other unto Dunch of Berkshire Secondly this could be no cause of the Queens displeasure and much lesse of the Countries envie that Bishop having sat in the See of Durham above seventeen years And certainly he must needs have been a very ill Husband if out of such a great Revenue he had not saved five hundred pounds per annum to prefer his Children the income being as great and the charges of Hospility lesse than they have been since Thirdly the Queen did not take away a thousand pound a year from that Bishoprick as is here affirmed The Lands were left to it as before but in regard the Garrison of Barwick preserved the Bishops Lands and Tenants from the spoil of the Scots the Queen thought fit that the Bishops should contribute towards their own defence imposing on them an annual pension of a thousand pound for the better maintaining of that Garrison Fourthly Bishop Pilkington was no Doctor but a Batchelor of Divinity onely and possibly had not been raised by our Author to an higher title and Degree than the University had given him but that he was a Conniver at Non-conformity as our Author telleth us Lib. 9. fol. 109. Lastly I shall here add that I conceived the Pension above mentioned not to have been laid upon that See after Pilkingtons death but on his first preferment to it the French having then newly landed some forces in Scotland which put the Queen upon a necessity of doubling her Guards and increasing her Garrisons But whatsoever was the cause of imposing this great yearly payment upon that Bishoprick certain I am that it continued and the money was duly paid into the Exchequer for many years after the true cause thereof was taken away the Queens displeasure against Pilkington ending either with his life or hers and all the Garrisons and forces upon the Borders being taken away in the beginning of the Reign of King Iames. So true is that old saying Quod Christus non capit fiscus rapit never more fully verified than in this particular Fuller I have given in a double account of Bishop Pilkingtons Issue and Estate 1. As same reported and as envioâ—s Courtiers represented it to Queen Elizabeth that he gave ten thousand with his onely Daughter Lib. 5. fol. 253. 2. As it was in truth giving but four thousand a piece with Two daughters lib. 8. fol. 109. The Animadvertor may allow me knowing in his family my wife being Grandchild to his Eldest Daughter married to Sir Henry Harrington Yet no relation to him or favour for him as a semi-non conformist but mere love to the Truth made me entitle him Doctor though I confesse Bishop Godwin maketh him but Batchelour in Divinity For Dr. Caius Master of Gonvil Hall whilest Pilkington was of St. Iohns in Cambridge giveth him the stile of Doctor who must be presumed most exact in the Titles of his own Contemporary The difference is not great betwixt taking away 1000 l. yearly from the Bishoprick and charging it with an annual Pension of 1000 l. to maintain the Garrison of Barwick However if the Reader can gain any information from what is additory in the Animadvertor I shall be light glad thereof THE SIXTH BOOK Containing the History of Abbeys Dr. Heylin THis Book containing the History of Abbeys seems but a Supplement to the former but being made a distinct book by our Author we must doe so likewise In which the first thing capable of an Animadversion is but meerly verbal viz. Fol. 266. Cistercians so called from one Robert living in Cistercium in Burgundy The place in Burgundy from whence these Monks took denomination though call'd Cirstercium by the Latins is better known to the French and English by the name Cisteaux the Monks thereof the Monks of Cisteaux by the English and Lesmoines de Cisteaux by the French and yet our Author hath hit it better in his Cistercians than Ralph Brook York Herald did in his Sister-senses for which sufficiently derided by Augustin Vincent as our Author being so well studied in Heraldry cannot chuse but know Fuller It was equally in my power and pleasure without the least prejudice to the Truth whether I would render the place in the French Cisteaux or retain the Latine name Cistercium I preferred the latter because our English word Cistercians hath most conformity therewith What is R. Brooke his Sister-senses Brother-senses or Non-senses to me This spends time in writing money in buying pains in reading makes some more angry none more knowing Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 268. But be he who he himself or any other pleaseth brother if they will to St. George on Horseback Our Author not satisfying himself in that Equitius who is supposed to be the first Founder of Monks in England makes him in scorn to be the Brother of St. George on Horse back that is to say a meer Chimera a Legendary Saint a thing of nothing The Knights of that most noble Order are beholding to him for putting their Patron in the same Rank with St. Equitius of whose existence on the Earth he can finde no Constat Fuller I honour the Knights of that noble Order as much as the Animadvertor himself Their Ribbands though now wearing out apace seem in my eyes as fair and fresh as when first put on I doe not deny but much doubt of St. George as he is presented with his improbable Atchievements Yet grant the whole History onely Emblematical and Allegorical of Christ rescuing his Church from the might and malice of Satan no Diminution of Honour at all is thereby to the Fellows of that noble Order Dr. Heylin But I would have him know how poorly soever he thinks of St. George on Horseback that there hath more been said of him his Noble birth Atchievements with his death and Martyrdome than all the Friends our Author hath will or can justly say in defence of our present History Fuller The Animadvertor might have done well to instanced in that Author which hath been the Champion for this Champion and hath so substantially asserted him If in this passage he reflecteth on his own Book on that Subject he hath lookt so long on St. George he hath forgot Solomon Let another praise thee and not thy own mouth a stranger and not thine own lips For my part I am yet to seek what service he hath done to the Church of God so busie to make DOWN SABBATH and UP St. GEORGE Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 270 So they deserve some commendation for their Orthodox Judgement in maintaining some Controversies in Divinity of importance against the Jesuites Our Author speaks this of the Dominicans or preaching Fryers who though they be the sole active managers of the Inquisition deserve notwithstanding
to a more pleasant tune from barking for food to the blessing of those who procured it Now let any censure this a digression from my History for though my Estate will not suffer me with Job to be eyes to the blind and feet to the lame I will endeavor what I can to be a tongue for the Dumbe Let the Reader judge betwixt me and the Animadvertor whether in this particular matter controverted I have not done the poor Clergy as much right as lay in my power and more than consisted with my safety Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 357. But this was done without any great cost to the Crown onely by altering the Property of the place from a late made Cathedral to an Abbey Our Author speaks this of the Church of Westminster which though it suffered many changes yet had it no such change as our Author speaks of that is to say from a Cathedral to an Abbey without any other alteration which came in between c. Fuller I said not that it was immediatly changed from a Cathedral to an Abbey but that it was changed and that without any great cost to the Crown so my words want nothing but a candid Reader of them Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 359. Nor can I finde in the first year of Queen Elizabeth any particular Statute wherein as in the reign of King Henry the eight these Orders are nominatim suppressed c. But first the several Orders of Religious Persons were not suppressed nominatim except that of St. Iohns by a Statute in the time of King Henry the eighth Secondly if there were no such Statute yet was it not because those Houses had no legal settlement as it after followeth Queen Mary being vested with a power of granting Mortmains and consequently of founding these Religious Houses in a legal way Thirdly there might be such a Statute though our Author never had the good luck to see it and yet for want of such good luck I finde him apt enough to think there was no such Statute Et quod non invenit usquam esse putat nusquam in the Poets language c. Fuller I could not then finde the Statute and I am not ashamed to confesse it Let those be censured who pretend to have found what they have noâ— and so by their confidence or impudence rather abuse Posterity Since I have found a Copy thereof in Sr. Thomas Cottons Library with many Commissions granted thereupon for the dissolution of such Marian foundations Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 369. Jesuits the last and newest of all Orders The newest if the last there 's doubt of that But the last they were not the Oratorians as they call them being of a later brood The Iesuites founded by Ignatius Loyola a Spaniard and confirmed by Pope Paul the third Anno 1540. The Oratorians founded by Philip Merio a Florentine and confirmed by Pope Pius the fourth Anno 1564. By which accompt these Oratorians are younger Brethren to the Iesuits by the space of four and twenty years and consequently the Iesuites not the last and newest of Religious Orders Fuller Writing the Church-History of Britain I herein confined my expression thereunto The Iesuites are the last and newest Order whose over-activity in our Land commends or condemns them rather to publick notice Idem est non esse non apparere The Oratorians never appeared in England save an handfull of them who at Queen Maries first arrival from France onely came Hither to goe hence a few moneths after THE SEVENTH BOOK Containing the Reign of King Edward the sixth Dr. Heylin WE are now come unto the Reign of King Edward the sixth which our Author passeth lightly over though very full of action and great alterations And here the first thing which I meet with is an unnecessary Quaere which he makes about the Injunctions of this King Amongst which we finde one concerning the religious keeping of the Holy-dayes in the close whereof it is declared That it shall be lawfull for all people in time of Harvest to labour upon Holy and Festival dayes and save that thing which God hath sent and that scrupulosity to abstain from working on those dayes doth grievously offend God Our Author hereupon makes this Quaere that is to say fol. 375. Whether in the 24 Injuâ—ction labouring in time of Harvest upon Holy-dayes and Festivals relateth not onely to those of Ecclesiastical Constitution as dedicated to Saints or be inclusive of the Lords-day also Were not our Author a great Zelot for the Lords-day-Sabbath and studious to intitle it to some antiquity we had not met with such a Quaere The Law and practise of those times make this plain enough c. Fuller It is better to be over doubtfull than over confident It had been much for the credit and nothing against the Conscience of the Animadvertor if he had made quaeries where he so positively and falsly hath concluded against me Now my Quaere is answered And I believe that the Lords Day was included within the numbâ—r of holy dayes and common work permitted thereon This maketh me bespeak my own and the Readers justly suspecting that the Animadvertor will not joyn with us herein on this account thankfulnesse to God That the Reformation since the time of King Edward the sixth hath been progressive and more perfected in this point amongst the Rest in securing the Lords-day from servile imployments Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 386. In the first year of King Edward the sixth it was recommended to the care of the most grave Bishops and others assembled by the King at his Castle at Windsor and when by them compleated set forth in Print 1548. with a Proclamation in the Kings name to give Authority thereunto being also recommended unto every Bishop by especial Letters from the Lords of the Councel to see the same put in execution And in the next year a penalty was imposed by Act of Parliament on such who should deprave or neglect the use thereof Our Author here mistakes himself and confounds the businesse making no difference between the whole first Liturgy of King Edward the sixth and a particular form of Administration c. Fuller Iâ— the Reader by perusing this Note of the Animadvertor can methodize the Confusion charged on me I shall be right glad thereof And I wish that the nice distinction of the Liturgie and the form of Administration may be informative unto him more than it is to me The close of this Animadversion whether this Book brought under a Review much altered in all the parts and offices of it be unto the better or unto the worse Leaves it under a strong suspition of the negative in the Judgement of the Animadvertor And now I shall wonder no more at the Animadvertors falling foul on my Book who as he confesseth am not known unto him by any injurie Seeing such distance in our judgements that he conceiveth the
Reformation in the Reign of King Edward more perfect than what was afterwards Let us make us a Captain and return unto Egypt I have too much advantage in my own hand and a principle in my bosome will not give me leave to make use thereof to the utmost Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 404. At last the great Earl of Warwick deserted his Chaplain in open field to shift for himself Indeed he had higher things in his head than to attend such trifles A man may easily discern a Cat by her Claw and we may finde as easily by be scratches of our Authors Pen to what party in the Church he stands most inclined He had before declared for the Dominicans and Rigid Calvinists in some points of Doctrine and now declares himself for the Non-Conformists in point of Ceremonie He had not else called the Episcopal Ornaments particularly the Rochet Chimere and Square-cap by the name of trifles such trifles as were not worth the contending for if Resolute Ridley had been pleased to dispense therein c. Fuller I say not that they were trifles but that Iohn Dudley Earl of Warwick afterwards Duke of Northumberland counted them so in respect to his high designes to the Crown yea it is more than suspicious that his ambition esteemed greater matters than Ceremonies meer trifles even Religion it self which he so often changed If the Cat hath put in her claw let her put in her whole foot I conceive such vestments comparatively trifles as to things necessary to salvation And thus I prove it I dare wager with the Animadvertor That take the Clergy of England as constituted 1640 that three parts of four did not know what a CHIMERE was Nor is this any diminution to their Learning and Religion seeing they were not bound to take cognisance thereof And therefore I beleeve one may safely call it a trifle without the knowledge of which word and what was meant thereby so many flocks of pious and learned Shepheards have gone to Heaven As for the Animadvertors additory Note which followeth concerning the singing of Psalmes in Churches I am not concerned therein Nor will I here insert his Instances of some fortunate Subjects who married Queens seeing I say not alwaies but often such matches prove unprosperous Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 421. This barren Convocation is intituled the Parent of those Articles of Religion fourty two in number which are printed with this Preface Articuli de quibus in Synodo Londinensi c. Our Author here is guilty of a greater crime than that of Scandalum Magnatum making King Edward the sixth of pious memory no better than an impious and leud Impostor For if the Convocation of this year were barren as he saith it was it could neither be the Parent of those Articles nor of the short Catechism which was printed with them countenanced by the Kings Letters Patents prefixt before it c. Fuller Here is an high charge indeed I believeâ—hat â—hat I am generally believed to have as high a reverence for the Memory of King Edward as the Animadvertor himself The Journals of the Convocation in this Kings Reign I have carefully perused which aâ—e no better than blanck paper containing onely the names of the Members therein daily meeting without any matter of moment yea any matteâ— at all Registred to be performed by them But I wholy refer my self to what I have written in my Church-History of this hard Subject making it there as plain as I could which the Animadvertor hath a mind again to involve and perplex THE EIGHTH BOOK The Reign of Queen Mary Dr. Heylin WE next proceed unto the short but troublesome Reign of Queen Mary in which the first thing that occurs is Fol. 1. But the Commons of England who for many years together had conn'd Loyalty by-heart out of the Statute of the succession were so perfect in their Lesson that they would not be put out of it by this new started design In which I am to note these things first that he makes the Loyaly of the Commons of England not to depend upon the primogeniture of their Princes but on the Statute of Succession and then the object of that Loyalty must not be the King but the Act of Parliament by which they were directed to the knowledge of the next successor and then it must needs be in the power of Parliaments to dispose of the Kingdome as they pleas'd the Peoples Loyalty being tyed to such dispositions c. Fuller I make not the loyalty of the Commons to depend on but to be directed by the Statute of Succession In such Intricacies it was good to have such a Guide to lead mens Judgements in the right And though some male-contents started from their Loyalty the Generality of the Commons of England kept constant unto it Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 11. Afterwards Philpot was troubled by Gardiner for his words spoken in the Convocation In vain did he plead the priviledge of the place commonly reputed a part of Parliament I cannot finde that the Convocation at this time nor many yeares before this time was commonly reputed as a part of the Parliament c. Fuller I onely say that Mr. Philpot pleaded it and that in vaine that it was so reputed as may plainly appear in Mr. Fox so that my words are liable to no just exception Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 27. The Letany Surplice and other Ceremonies in Service and Sacraments they omitted both as superfluous and superstitious Our Author speaks this of the Schismaticall Congregation at Franckford who turn'd the Publique Church Liturgy quite out of their Church fashioning to themselves a new forme of Worship which had no warrant and foundation by the Lawes of this Realm And first saith he the Letany Surplice and other Ceremonies they omitted both as superfluous and supersticious Superfluous and supersticious in whose opinion In that of the Schismaticks at Franckford our Authors or in both alike Most probable in our Authors as well as theirs for otherwise he would have added some note of qualifications c. Fuller This note might well have been spared I appeal to such as knew my conformity in the Colledge Chappel Country Parishes and Cathedrall of Sarum to be my Cumpurgators in this unjust accusation Dr. Heylin Thirdly having laid down an abstract of the form of worship contriv'd by the Schismaticks at Franckford he honoureth them with no lower Title than that of Saints and counts this liberty of deviating from the Rules of the Church for a part of their happinesse For so it followeth fol. 28. This faith he is the Communion of Saints who never account themselves peaceably possest of any happinesse untill if it be in their power they have also made their fellow-sufferers partakers thereof If those be Saints who seperate themselves schismatically from their Mother Church and if it be a happinesse to them to be permitted so to doe our
have heard my many Sermons on this Subject in London and else where but especially to my Book called TRUTH MAINTAINED made against Mr. Saltmarsh wherein I have heartily to place that first largely and to my power strongly vindicated Non licet Populo renuente Magistratu Reformationem moliri Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 54. This Parliament being very active in matters of Religion the Convocation younger Brother thereunto was little imployed and less regarded Our Author follows this Design of putting matters of Religion into the power of Parliaments though he hath chosen a very ill Medium to conclude the point This Parliament as active as he seems to make it troubled it self so little with matters of Religion that had it done lesse it had done just nothing All that it did was the Repealing of some Acts made in the time of Queen Mary and setling matters in the same State in which she found them at her first coming to the Crown The Common Prayer Book being reviewed and fitted to the use of the Church by some godly men appointed by the Queen alone receiv'd no other confirmation in this present Parliament than what it had before in the last years of King Edward The Supremacy was again restor'd as it had been formerly the Title of Supreme head which seem'd offensive unto many of both Religions being changed into that of Supreme Governor nothing in all this done de novo which could intitle this Parliament to such activity in matters of Religion but that our Author had a minde to undervalue the Convocation as being little imployed and lesse regarded I grant indeed that the Convocation of that year did only meet for forms sake without acting any thing c. Fuller Yea God hath done great things for us already whereof we rejoyce And although the Animadvector is pleased to say That if this Parliament had done lesse it had done just nothing these truly were MAGNALIA so farre as the word is applyable to humane performances Dr. Heylin In the mean time I would fain know our Authors Reason why speaking of the Convocation and the Parliament in the notion of Twins the Convocation must be made the younger Brother Assuredly there had been Convocations in the Church of England some hundreds of years before the name of Parliament had been ever heard of which he that lists to read the collection of Councels published by that learned and industrious Gentleman Sir Henry Spelman cannot but perceive Fuller I confesse Convocations in their general notion more ancient and regular and completely constituted than Parliaments Yet of these Twins I called the Convocation the younger Brother properly enough First Because modern Convocations as modelled since the submission of the Clergy to Henry the eighth are many years junior to Parliaments Secondly The Convocations alwaies began the day after the Parliament the Archbishops and Bishops alwaies attending the King the first day in Parliament Lastly The Parliament hath made a younger Brother of the Convocation And there being a priority in Power he in effect is the Heir and elder Brother who confineth the other to a poor pittance and small portion as our Age can well remember Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 71. This year the spire of Poles steeple covered with lead strangely fell on fire More modestly in this than when he formerly ascribes the burning of some great Abbeys to Lightning from Heaven And so this steeple was both reported and believed to be fired also it being an ordinary thing in our common Almanacks till these latter times to count the time among the other Epoches of Computation from the year that St. Paul-steeple was fired with Lightning But afterwards it was acknowledged as our Author truly notes to be done by the negligence of a Plummer carelesly leaving his Coles therein since which acknowledgement we finde no mention of this accident in our yearly Almanacks But whereas our Author finds no other Benefactors for the repairing of this great Ruine but the Queens bounty and the Clergies benevolence I must needs tell him that these were onely accessories to the principal charge The greatest part hereof or to say better the whole work was by the Queen imposed on the City of London it being affirmed by Iohn Stow that after this mischance the Queens Majesty directed her Letters to the Major willing him to take order for the speedy repairing of the same c. Fuller Non est tanti all this Note The Queen and Clergy are onely mentioned by way of eminence not exclusion of others The Animadvertor commonly layeth it to my charge that in my writing I am injurious to the Church and Clergy and now he is offended with me for giving them too much honour Sure I am Mr. Camden speaking of the repairing of S. Pauls on this occasion ascribes it to the great bounty of the Queen and money gathered of the Churchmen and others where his particular nomination onely of the Queen and Church-men making them paramount Benefactors Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 72. In the Convocation now sitting the nine and thirty Articles were composed agreeing for the main with those set forth in the Reign of King Edward the sixth though in some particulars allowing more liberty to dissenting judgements This is the active Convocation which before I spake of not setâ—ing matters of Religion in the same estate in which they were left by King Edward but altering some Articles expunging others adding some de novo and fitting the whole body of them unto edification Not leaving any liberty to dissenting judgements as our Author would have it but binding men unto the literal and Grammatical sense Fuller But the literal and Grammatical sense is worded in so favourable and receptive terms that two opposite parties both wellâ—skilled in Grammer have with great assurance of successe pleaded them in their defence In such Cases when the Controversie is admissive of a latitude as not necessary to salvation the pious and learned Penners of the Articles though they did not purposely use Cheverel expressions to afford shelter to equivocation yet prudently seeing that all things in the Articles were not of equall concernment and politickly â—ore-seeing men would be divided and differ in their judgements about them selected phrases Grammatically admissive of several senses all consistent with Salvation and would draw their words no closer for fear of strangling tender Consciences Hence is it that in the Question Whether Concupiscence be properly a sin in the Regenerate both parties appeal unto the Article equally perswaded there so finde favour in their several Opinions as indeed like a well drawn Picture it seemeth to Eye them both and yet frown on neither And one may read in the works of King Iames that on this account he highly commendeth the discretion and moderation of the Composers of our Articles Dr. Heylin They had not otherwise attained to the end they aimed at which was ad tollendam opinionum
dissent from him rendring my reason for the same Dr. Heylin But whereas he tels us in the following words that the name of Puritan in that notion began this year viz. 1564. I fear he hath anticipated the time a little Genebrard a right good Chronologer placing it ortos in Anglia Puritanos about two years after Anno 1566 c. Fuller I answer First Let the Animadvertor keep his fears for me to himself and not be solicitous in my behaâ—f Secondly If the time be anticipated but a little these necessary Animadversions needed not to take notice thereof Thirdly Genebrards placing the beginning of the Name Puritan about two years after intimates a latitude in his Computation Fourthly Genebrard Anno 1566. calleth them ortos but not orientes in Anglia Puritanos And when I speak of the beginning of the name I relate to it rising not risen Fifthly Genebrard is so disaffected to our Religion he is not to be credited taking all implicitly out of rayling Saunders Witnesse this eminent Note amongst the rest Anno 1570. UNCTI in Surria Comitatu Angliae è Calvinii Schola oâ—iuntur qui docent peccare neminem nisi qui veritatem ab ipsis praedicatam non recâ—pit The ANOINTED Scholars of Calvin did rise this year in Surry an English County who teach that every man must sin that will not imbrace their Doctrine all which is a notorious untruth Lastly The Animadvertor cannot justly be angry with me if I antedated the Puritans by two years seeing he findeth the Lineaments of the Puritan Platform in the Reign of King Henry the eighth twenty years at least beâ—ore my mention of them Dr. Heylin But why our Author should call the Bishop of Londons House by the name of the Popes Palace I doe very much wonder unlesse it were to hold conformity with the style of Martin Mar-Prelate and the rest of that Faction Amongst whom nothing was more common than to call all Bishops Petty-Popes and more particularly to call the Archbishop of Canterbury the Pope of Lambeth and the Bishop of London Pope oâ— London But I hope more charitably than so being more willing to impute it to the fault of the Printers than the Pen of our Author c. Fuller It falls out happily for me that Grindal was then Bishop oâ— London one so far from Popery that he is beheld under an opposite notion I wonder the Animadvertor will lay so much weight on a plain mistake of the Presse Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 98. Against covetous Conformists it was provided that no spiritual Person Colledge or Hospital shall let Lease other than for twenty one years or three lives c. No mention in the Statute of Covetous Conformists I am sure of that and therefore no provision to be made against them the Covetous Conformist is our Authors own c. Fuller I say in the same place that in this Parliament Laws were enacted against Poiniards with three Edges Conformists they must needs be who enjoyed so great Church-preferment and Covetous I may call them who made so unreasonable Leases But of this I have largely spoken in my Answer to the Introduction Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 121. These Prophecyings were founded on the Apostles Precept For ye may all Prophesie one by one that all may learn and all be comforted but so as to make it out they were fain to make use of humane prudential additions Not grounded but pretended to be grounded on those words of St. Paul c. Fuller Grounded shall be altered God willing into pretended to be grounded and then I hope no shadow of offence Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 135. A loud Parliament is alwaies attended with a silent Convocation as here it came to passe The Activity of the former in Church matters lâ—st the latter nothing to doe A man would think by this that the Parliament of this year being the 23 of the Quâ—en had done great â—eats in matters of Religion as making new Articles of Faith or confirming Canons or something else of like importance c. Fuller It lyeth not in the Power of Parliament to make new ARTICLES of FAITH nor did they ever pretend unto it Nor lyeth it in the Power of the Church to make any new ARTICLES Canons they may make for the Descipline and may declare and publish Articles of faith But God alone in Scripture hath made them to which man under an heavy curse may make no Addition Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 187. That since the High Commission and this Oath it is that ex officio which he meaneth were taken away by the Act of Parliament it is to be hoped that if such swearing were so great a grievance nihil analogum nothing like unto it which may amount to as much shall hereafter be substituted in the room thereof What could be said more plain to testifie his disaffections one way and his zâ—al another The High-Commission and the Oath reproached as Grievances because the greatest â—urbs of the Puritan party and the strongest Bulwarks of the Church a congratulation to the times for abolishing both though as yet I finde no Act of Parliament against the Oath except it be by consequence and illation onely and finally a hope exprest that the Church never shall revert to her former power in substituting any like thing in the place thereof by which the good people of the Land may be stopt in their way to the fifth Monarchy so much sought after And yet this does not speak so plain as the following passage Fuller God restore the Church in his good time to her just rights and give her wisdome moâ—e raâ—ely to use it I am â—oâ— no fift Monarchy or Anarchyâ—heâ— â—heâ— but desire from my heart that no such analogical Oath may be offered to me and let the Animadvertor if desirous thereof have it to himself and much good may it doe him Dr. Heylin Our Author proceeds Fol. 193. Wits will be working and such as have a Satyrical vein cannot better vent it than in lashing of sin This spoken in defence of those scurrilous Libels which Iob Throgmorton Penry Fenner and the rest of the Puritan Rabble published in print against the Bishops Anno 1588. thereby to render them ridiculous both abroad and at home Fuller I am most disingeniously dealt with by the Animadvertor obtruding on me such words In defence I defie it these me words immediatly following But 〈…〉 and devouâ— sort of men even of such as were no great friends to the 〈◊〉 upon solemn debaâ—e then resolved I speak on certain knowledge from the mouthes of such whom I must believe that for many foul falshoods therein suggestâ—d altogether â—â—â—eseeming a pious spirit to print publish or with pleasure peruse which â—â—posed true both in matter and measure rather conceal than discover The best of men being so conscious of their own badnesse that they are more carefull to wash their own faces than
it And therefore the Animadvertor fighting with his own shaddow it is all one to me whether he beat or be beaten Yet I doubt not but there are many in this Nation my betters in all respects who will be bold to call it a Trifling controversie if not â—â—solutely yet comparatively to many Doctrinall differences of higher concernment and in respect of the great troubles caused thereby far above the considerablenesse of the thing which was in contest Dr. Heylyn The question was about the placing of the Communion-Table whether it ought to stand in the middle of the Church or Chancel with one end towards the East great Window like a common Table or close up to the Eastern-wall with ends North and South according as the Altars had been placed in the former times They that maintained the last opinion had Authority for it that is to say the Injunctions of the Queen Anno 1599. the Orders and Advertisements of the year 1562. and 1565. the constant practice of the Chappels in his Majestie 's Houses most of the Cathedrall and some of the Parochiall Churches and finally a Declaration of the King Anno 1633. commending a conformity in the Parish-Churches to their own Cathedralls They on the other side stood chiefly upon discontinuance but urged withall that some Rubricks in the Common-Prayer-Book seemed to make for them So that the question being reduced to a matter of fact that is to say The Table must stand this way or it must stand that way I would fain know how any Condescention might be made on either side tending to an accommodation or what our Moderator would have done to atone the differences Fuller The Dr. hath clearly briefty and truly stated the Controversie whose pen was formerly conversant therein and by his owne acknowledgment both sides had much to say for themselves Onely I wonder that though the Question was reduced to matter of Fact it should be made by him of so high Importance That either no condiscention could be made on either side or such Condiscention if made must prove ineffectuall as to an accommodation Is there no balme in Gilead Hath not the spirit of God endowed his servants with such discretion but they may comprimise a difference of greater Moment Dr. Heylyn Suppose him sitting in the Chair the Arguments on both sides urged and all the Audience full of expectation which side would carry it The Moderator Fuller of old merry Tales then ordinary thus resolves the businesse That he had heard it commended for a great piece of wisdom in Bishop Andrews That wheresoever he was a Parson a Dean or a Bishop he never troubled Parish Colledge or Diocesse with pressing of other Ceremonies upon them than such which he found used there before his comming thither That King Iames finding the Archbishop of Spalato in a resolution of questioning all such Leases as had been made by his Predecessors in the Savoy gave him this wise counsell Relinque res sicut eas invenisti That he should leave things as he found them That the said King being told by a great Person of the inverted scituation of a Chappel in Cambridge made answer That it did not matter how the Chappell stood so their hearts who go thither were set aright in Gods service But for his part he liked better of the resolution of Dr. Prideaux his brother in the Chair at Oxford who being troubled with his neighbours of Kidlington about the setting up of a May-pole some being for it and some against it thus resolved the case You saith he that will have a May-pole shall have a May-pole And you that will have none shall have none And that according to that pattern he thought best to accommodate the present Controversie to the same effect viz. You that will have an Altar shall set up your Altar and you that will have a Table shall have but a Table Which sentence whether it would have pleased all parties I do somewhat doubt but sure I am it had not tended to the advancement of that uniformity which was then designed Fuller The Animadvertor here makes a Professor's Chaire and having solemnly set me down therein puts words into my mouth and makes an Oration for me as Moderator in the present Controversie with a jeer to boot on the memory of the Reverend Doctor Prideaux But know there is another Chaire which David calls the Chaire of the scornfull and it is to be feared that the Animadvertor in this point is too neare sitting down therein If I should retaliate and accordingly place the Animadvertor in a Chair and fit him with a Speech personating him proportionable to his principles possibly I might render him as Ridiculous but most of all should abuse my self and my owne profession therein I thank God I can though plainly yet pertinently enough to my purpose speak to expresse the notions of my mind And when God shall take speech from me if my reason still remain I shall rather with Zacharias make signes for writing-tables to write in than to have words put into my mouth forced and seigned on me by the Animadvertor Let him thank God that he can speak so well for himselfe And I will be content as well as I can to utter my owne conceptions It would never have come into my Mind to have compared the Table of the Lord to a May-pole the Wood of the one grew in Paradise not so the other being a light and Ludicrous and too often profane stock of wood I hope that the principles of my Education will restraine me from prophanesse in such unfitting parallels Whereas the Animadvertor sayes that an Expedient would not have tended to that Uniformity that was designed herein before God and Man I will speak out my thoughts That multiformity with mutuall Charity advanceth Gods Glory as much as Uniformity it selfe in matters meerly indifferent which as the Pipes of an Organ may be of severall length and bignesse yet all tuned into good harmony together I will instance in the Observation of Easter the great Controversie betwixt the Easterne and Westerne Church in the Observation thereof betwixt that which I may call Style Orientall and Style Occidentall for the Date thereof And I verily believe that God was equally honoured by both by such as Religiously observed it Dr Heylyn But from these moderate men which were so in contemplation onely let us proceed to one who was such in practise the Lord Bishop of London of whom he saith fol. 150. He had a perfect command of his passion an happiness not granted all Clergy-men in that Age though Privy-Counsellors So perfect a man of his own passion and affections that he will not think himself honoured with a commendation which comes accompanied with the disparagement of his chiefest friend for that this lash was made for the Arch-bishop of Canterbury no wise man can doubt Our Author might have spared the dead without any wrong to the living but that he thinks
persons to pass such a censure on one of their own profession Dr. Heylyn Secondly it had been more strange if the Knight had not been a Lay-man the Church of England not acknowledging any Order of Spirituall Knighthood Knights in Divinity are greater strangers in this Land then Lay-Divines these last being multiplied of late even ad infinitum the first never heard of Fuller The Pleonasm of the addition of Lay-man to Knight is not so culpable in it self but that it might have passed without censure and let not the Animadvertor be over-confident herein I have been credibly informed that Sir Miles Sandys third son to Edwin Arch-bishop of York Fellow of Peter-house in Cambridge and Proctor of the University Anno 1588. was made a Deacon and so no meer Lay-man and in his younger years a Prebendary of York Within this twenty years there was one Mr. Seaton beneficed in Hartfordshire a Scotish-man and at this day a Knight But the matter being of no more moment let us proceed Dr. Heylyn And thirdly had it been so mov'd and so lustily mov'd as our Author makes it the Knight and Lay-man might have found a precedent for it in former ages Which last clause is to be understood as I suppose with reference to the times since the Reformation For in the former times many precedents of like nature might be easily found And being understood of the times since the Reformation it is not so infallibly true but that one precedent of it at the least may be found amongst us Marmaduke Middleton advanced to the Bishoprick of Sr. Davids Anno 1567. after he had sat in that See three and twenty years was finally condemned for many notable misdemeanors not onely to be deprived of his Bishoprick but degraded from all holy Orders Which sentence was accordingly executed by and before the High-Commissioners at Lambeth-house not only by reading of it in Scriptis but by a formal divesting of him of his Episcopall Robes and Priestly Vestments as I have heard by a person of good credit who was present at it And somewhat there is further in the story of this Marmaduke Middleton which concerns the Bishop now before us of whom our Author telleth us further That being prest by two Bishops and three Doctors to answer upon Oath to certain Articles which were tendred to him in the Tower he utterly refused to do it claiming the priviledge of a Peer fol. 159. Which plea was also made by the said Bishop of St. Davids offering to give in his Answer to such Articles as were fram'd against him on his Honour onely but refusing to do it on his Oath Which case being brought before the Lords then sitting in Parliament was ruled against him it being ordered that he should answer upon Oath as in fine he did To this Bishop let us joyn his Chaplain Mr. Osbolstone who being engag'd in the same Bark with his Patron suffered shipwrack also though not at the same time nor on the same occasion Censured in Star-Chamber not onely to lose his Ecclesiasticall Promotions but to corporall punishments Fuller In my weak judgment the Animadvertor had better have omitted this passage of this Bishop's Degradation in this juncture of time where in the repute of that Function runs very low and their adversaries too ready to take all advantage to disgrace it The rather because Bishop Godwin taketh no notice at all thereof but beginneth continueth and concludeth the life and death of this Bishop in lesse then two lines Marmaduke Middleton translated from Ireland died Novemb. 30th 1592. Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceedeth fol. 166. But this last personall penalty he escaped by going beyond Canterbury conceived seasonably gone beyond the Seas whilst he secretly concealed himself in London And he had scap't the last penalty had he staid at home For though Mr. Osbolston at that time conceived the Archbishop to be his greatest enemy yet the Archbishop was resolved to shew himselfe his greatest friend assuring the Author of these Papers before any thing was known of Mr. Osbolstons supposed flight that he would cast himselfe at the Kings feet for obtaining a discharge of that corporal punishment unto which he was sentenced Which may obtain the greater credit First in regard that no course was taken to stop his flight no search made after him nor any thing done in Order to his apprehension And secondly by Mr. Osbolstons readinesse to do the Archbishop all good Offices in the time of his troubles upon the knowledge which was given him at his coming back of such good Intentions But of these private men enough passe we now to the publick Fuller Whether or no he was sought after I know not this I know he was not taken and more do commend his warinesse in his flight than would have praised his valour for staying in hope his Punishment should be remitted It had been most Mercy to stop the denouncing but was a good after-game of pitty to stay the inflicting of so cruell a censure on a Clergyman As the Animadvertor then had the Credit to know so the Author now hath the Charity to believe the Arch-Bishops good resolution However I cannot forget that when the Sentence in the Star-Chamber passed on Bishop Williams where he concurred with the highest in his Fine He publickly professed that He had fallen five times down on his knees before the King in the Bishop's behalf but to no purpose It might be therefore suspected that his intention to do it once for Mr. Osbolston might not have taken effect And therefore had the Arch-Bishop's good resolution been known unto him Mr. Osbolston might most advisedly conceale himselfe Lib. XI Part. II. Containing the last 12. Years of the Reign of King Charls Dr. Heylyn ANd now we come to the last and most unfortunate Part of this King's Reigne which ended in the Losse of his owne Life the Ruine of the Church and the Alteration of the Civill Government Occasioned PRIMARILY as my Author saith by sending a new Liturgy to the Kirk of Scotland Fuller I deny such a Word that I said the Liturgy did PRIMARILY occasion the War with Scotland Rather the cleane contrary may by Charitable Logick be collected from my Words when having reckoned up a Complication of Heart-burnings amongst the Scots I thus Conclude Church-History Book 11. Page 163. Thus was the Scottish Nation full of discontents when this Book being brought unto them bare the Blame of their breaking forth into more dangerous designes as when the Cup is brim-full before the LAST though LEAST superadded drop is charged alone to be the Cause of all the running over Till then that the Word PRIMARILY can be produced out of my Book let the Animadvertor be beheld PRIMARILY as One departed from the Truth and SECONDARILY as a Causelesse accuser of his Brother Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds Folio 160. Miseries caused from the sending of the Book of Service or new Liturgy thither which may sadly be termed a
Rubrick indeed dyed with the blood of so many of both Nations slaine on that Occasion Our Author speakes this in Relation to the Scottish Tumults Anno 1637. In telling of which Story he runs as commonly elsewhere into many Errours For first those Miseries and that blood-shed was not caused by sending the Liturgy thither c. Fuller Seeing the Animadvertor denies the Liturgy to have had any Causall influence on the Scots War I must manifest my dissent from his Iudgement and here I crave the Reader 's leave to be his humble Remembrancer of the Kinds of Causes so far as they conduce to the clearing of the present Controversie Causes are twofold Solitary or Totall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Ioynt and fellow Causes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The latter againe is twofold Proegumena long leading before and inwardly disposing and inclining to Action or Procatarctica called also Causa irritatrix or Primitiva provocans which is outwardly impulsive to Action The former is tearmed by Physitians Causa Antecedens the latter Causa Evidens of a disease Thus in a Feaver corrupt humours bred within and without the Veines are the Antecedent cause thereof whilst being in the hot Sun walking in the South-wind c. stopping the Pores and stirring the ill Humours to heat may be the evident cause of a Feaver I thus apply it The inward discontents of the Scots on severall accounts which follow on the next Paragraph were the Antecedent causes of their War whilst the evident Cause thereof was the Obtruding the Liturgy upon them And so much for my cleare sense in this Controversie Dr. Heylyn The Plot had been laid long before upon other grounds that is to say Questioning of some Church Lands then in the hands of some great Persons of which they feared a Rovocation to the Crown And secondly the manumitting of some poor subjects from the tyranny and vassallage which they lived under in respect of their Tithes exacted with all cruelty and injustice by those whom they call the Lords of new erection Which Plot so laid there wanted nothing but some popular occasion for raising a Tumult first a Rebellion afterwards and this occasion they conceived they had happily gain'd by sending the new Liturgy thither though ordered by their own Clergy first as our Author tells us at the Assembly of Aberdeen Anno 1616. and after aâ— Perth Anno 1618. and fashioned for the most part by their own Bishops also But of this there hath so much been said between the Observator and his Antagonist that there is nothing necessary to be added to it Secondly there was no such matter as the passing of an Act of Revocation for the restoring of such Lands as had been alienated from the Crown in the minority of the Kings Predecessors of which he tells us fol. 192. The King indeed did once intend the passing of such an Act but finding what an Insurrection was likely to ensue upon it he followed the safer counsell of Sir Archibald Acheson by whom he was advis'd to sue them in his Courts of Justice Which course succeeding to his wish so terrified many of those great persons who had little else but such Lands to maintain their Dignities that they never thought themselves secure as long as the King was in a condition to demand his own Thirdly though it be true enough that some persons of honour had been denied such higher Titles as they had desired fol. 163. yet was it not the denying of such Titles unto Men of Honour which wrought these terrible effects but the denying of an honorary Title to a man of no honour If Colonel Alexander Lesly an obscure fellow but made rich by the spoils and plunder of Germany had been made a Baron when he first desired it the rest of the male-contents in Scotland might have had an heart though they had no head But the King not willing to dishonour so high a Title by conferring it on so low a person denyed the favour Which put the man into such a heat that presently he joyned himself to the faction there drove on the plot and finally undertook the command of their Armies Rewarded for which notable service with the Title of Earl of Levin by the King himself he could not so digest the injury of the first refusall but that he afterwards headed their Rebellions upon all occasions Fuller Little opposition against some variation from and more addition unto what I have written is herein contained Which if tending to the Reader his clearer information I am right glad thereof and wish him all happinesse therein Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds fol. 163. Generally they excused the King in their writings as innocent therein but charged Arch-bishop Laud as the principall and Dr. Cousins as the instrumentall compiler thereof This is no more then we had reason to expect from a former passage liâ— 4. fol. 193. where our Author telleth us that the Scotish Bishops withdrew themselves from their obedience to the See of York in the time when George Nevil was Arch-bishop And then he adds Hence-forwards no Arch-bishop of York medled more with Church-matters in Scotland and happy had it been if no Arch-bishop of Canterbury had since interressed himsâ—lf therein His stomack is so full of choller against this poor Prelate that he must needs bring up some of it above an hundred years before he was born Fuller What could more calmly be written Perchance some cold flegme but nothing of choller is in the expression I say again It had been happy for King Queen Royall Issue Church State the Arch-bishop himself Animadvertor Author Reader All England Dr. Heylyn Hence is it that he takes together all reports which makes against him and sets them down in rank and file in the course of this History If Arch-bishop Abbot be suspended from his Jurisdiction the blame thereof was laid on Arch-bishop Laud as if not content to succeed he endeavoured to supplant him fol. 128. The King sets out a Declaration about lawfull Sports the reviving and enlarging of which must be put upon his account also some strong presumptions being urged for the proof thereof fol. 147. The reduction of the Church to her antient Rules and publick Doctrines must be nothing else but the enjoyning of his own private practises and opinions upon other men fol. 127. And if a Liturgy be compos'd for the use of the Church of Scotland Who but he must be charged to be the Compiler of it Fuller If all the places here cited are passed already they have received their severall Answers if any of them be to come they shall receive them God-willing in due time that so for the present we may be silent to prevent repetition Dr. Heylyn But what proofs have we for all this Onely the malice of his enemies or our Authors own disaffection to him or some common fame And if it once be made a fame it shall pass for truth and as a truth find place
which were setled upon it by Divine Right Fuller I Report you concluded Deans and Chapters lands alienable without sin of Sacriledge from that particular Use yet so as that they ought still to be preserved to the Church in generall I confesse I neither was nor might be present in the Parliament and therefore must take it on Hear-say However I distinguish on hear-say which is double Hear-say Common Credible I conceive mine to be of the latter and better sort And I have no other way to defend my selfe than by appealing to many members of the House then present still alive and firmly remembring that transaction Surely Sir the Parliament never brought into question Whether things might be alienated from the Church which by Divine Right were setled thereon It was inconsistent with their prudence amounting in effect to this question Whether Gods or their power were the highest And Sir if you concluded no more than what you say you concluded what was never controverted by any Christian. Whereas you call me a FLASHY WRITER God forbid that in all my Books such a flash of folly and falshood should be found as falls from your Pen in your own praise Part. 1. pag. 32. lin 30 31. Albeit Dr. Burges performeth more service in that Church than any Bishop that ever sat there I read Act. 10.2 of a Cornelius praised by God for his Prayers and Alms but you are the first of the name which publickly in print commendeth himselfe And as for the Bishops of that See Have you forgotten William Barlow who in the Marian dayes exul in Germania inopem vitam ut potuit toleravit Preaching a practicall Sermon of patience and contentednesse to all posterity whilst another usurped his habitation What shall I speak of Sâ—ilâ— Montague c. What proportion I pray doth a petâ—y brook bear to a large LAKE If I be a flashy Writer you should have been so carefull as not to have brought fuell in your Book which I so soon may burn to ashes Part. 1. pag. 20. And that this was the high-way wherein the Popish Clergy of England long before as well as since the Conquest constantly travelled take one Testimony more of that famous Gildas the Elder surnamed Sapiens who being a Brittain Presbyter within the sixth Century or hundred of years after Christ thus chargeth the Popish Clergy of his time who had sacked their Principles from Augustine the Monk sent from Rome on purpose to advance the State and Pompe of the Clergy under Colour of planting the Christian faith in England For thus he saith Britannia habet sacerdotes c. Brittain saith he hath Priests but some of them very dolâ—s very many Ministers but many of them impudent ones Clergy men but very Thieves or Cheaters Pastors as they are termed but in truth Woolves standing to slay and flay the souls of the sheep for that they seek not the good of the people but the Grambing of their owne bellies They have Church houses but they never repaire to them unlesse for their own filthy lucre But know Sir that herein you are much mistaken in your Chronology for Gildas died saith Arch-bishop Usher in his Index-Chronolog pag. 1144. in the year of our Lord 570. Augustine the Monk came not over â—nto England untill the year 596. as â—s notoriously known to all that open a Book I am therefore confident that Gildas his complaint related onely to his Country-men the Brittish Clergy without the least reflection on the Saxon which as yet were unconverted pagans And therefore to say they had sucked in principles from Augustine the Monk is an Anti-Chronism which cannot be justified Respect Sir to your age degree and profession charms my Pen into some reverence unto you and because I hear abler Men are undertaking your Confutation I add no more but remain Your Loving Friend Thomas Fuller FINIS AN INDEX OF THE MOST REMARKABLE PERSONS and Passages in this BOOK TO THE READER ALthough a Methodicall Book be an Index to it self yet an Index is not to be contemned by the most Industrious Reader Whom we request to take notice of the following Particulars I. C. stands for Century B. for Book P. for Page ¶ for Paragraph II. In the two first Books memorables are ranked onely according to Centuries and Paragraphs but afterwards by Books III. Paragraph without page doth for brevity sake referre to that page which was last named IV. Page without Book on the same reason relates to the last Book that was named V. VVhere no Paragraph is named it sheweth that the page by it self is sufficient notification Lastly know that the discounting of Sheets to expedite the work at severall Presses hath occasioned in the Fifth book after page 200. compleated to go back again to page 153 surrounded in this fashion to prevent confusion AARON a Citizen of Caerlion martyred Cent. 4. ¶ 10. ABBEYS The prodigious expence in building and endowing them Cent. 10. ¶ 40. multitudes of them causeth the Danish invasion ¶ 51. mischiefs done by them b. 2. p. 282 283 284. prime Officers and Officines p. 285 286 287. the civil benefits by them p. 296 297 298. presage of their ruin p. 300. and offers to overthrow them p. 301 302. the lesser which could not expend 200. pounds a year bestowed on the King p. 310 311. and the rest visited with three sorts of Officers p. 314 315. some appear vertuous p. 316. others notoriously vitious p. 317. all resigned by their Abbots unwillingly willing to the King p. 319 c. Rob. ABBOT Bishop of Salisbury his death and commendation B. 10. P. 70. ¶ 53. George ABBOT Arch-bishop of Cant. B. 10. p. 57. ¶ 47. casually killeth a keeper p. 87. ¶ 12 c. befriended by Sir Edward Coke ¶ 15. and Bishop Andrews ¶ 16. mortified by this chance ¶ 17. seven years after severely suspended from his jurisdiction b. 11. ¶ 51. his character ¶ 53. and vindication ¶ 54. 55. Tho. ADAMS Alderman of London foundeth an Arabick Professours place in Cambridge Hist. of Cam. p. 166. ¶ 22. ADELME the first Bishop of Sherborn Cent. 8. ¶ 4. and the first Englishman who wrote in Latin or made a verse ibid. AETHELARD Arch-bâ—â—hop of Cant. calleth a Synod Cent. 9. ¶ 2. with the solemn subscriptions thereunto ibidem AGRICOLA a principall spreader of Pelagianisme in Britain Cent. 5. ¶ 3. AIDAN Bishop of Lindissern his due Commendation Cent. 7. ¶ 70. dissenteth from the Romish Church in the Celebration of Easter ¶ 71. inciteth Lay-men to the Reading of Scripture ¶ 72. St. ALBAN though a Britan how a Citizen of Rome Cent. 4. â— 2. converted to Christianity by Amphibalus ¶ 3. his Martyrdome and reported Miracles ¶ 4.5 his intire body pretended in three places Cent. 5. ¶ 11. Enshrined some hundred years after by King Offa Cent. 8. ¶ 35. St. ALBANS Abbey founded by King Offa Cent. 8. ¶ 38. the Abbot thereof confirmed first in place of all England
40.49 dejected carriage at his death 50. his Straw Miracle confuted ¶ 51. c. GENEVA such English who deserted the Church at Frankford settled there b. 8. p. 52. ¶ 10. their names ibid. they send a letter to those at Frankford about accommodation which cometh too late b. 9. p. 52. ¶ 3. the State thereof oppressed by the Savoiard sues to England for relief p. 136. their suite coldly resented and why p. 137. ¶ 20. yet some years after the necessity thereof bountifully relieved by the English Clergy b. 10. p. 4. ¶ 11. GENEVA Translation of the Bible made by the English Exiles there b. 8. p. 36. ¶ 27. the marginal notes thereof disliked by King James b. 10. p. 14. our Translatours enjoyned by him to peruse it p. 47. ¶ 1. the Brethren complain for the lack of their notes p. 58. ¶ 51. which Doctor H causelessely inveyed against 52. GERMANUS invited hither by the British Bishops Cent. 5. ¶ 4. assisted with Lupus ibid. His disputation with the Pelagians ¶ 6. in a most remarkable Conference at S. Albans ¶ 7 8. miraculously conquereth the Pagan Picts and Saxons ¶ 10. is said to exchange some Relicts for S. Albans ¶ 11. his return into Britain to suppresse resprouting Pelagianisme in a Synod ¶ 12 13. GILBERTINE Monks b. 6. p 268. ¶ 8. Ant. GILBY a â—ierce Non-conformist b. 9. p. 76. ¶ 70. GILDAS a British writer calleth his Country-men the Iâ—ke of the Age C. 5. ¶ 14. why he omitteth the worthies of his Nation C. 6. ¶ 2. GILDAS surnamed Albanius struck dumb at the sight of a Nun with Child the reported Mother of St. David C. 5. ¶ 23. Bernard GILPIN refuseth the Bishoprick of Carlile and why b. 9. p. 63. ¶ 32. his Apostolicall life and death ibid. GLASSE the making thereof first brought into England C. 7. ¶ 87. GLASSENBURY the most ancient Church in Christendome said to be erected therein C. 1. ¶ 13. The plain platforme thereof ibidem The story of the Hawthorn thereby budding on Christmas day examined ¶ 15 16 17. cut down lately by the Souldiers ibidem The twelve British Monks with their hard names dwelling there C. 5. ¶ 18. though St. Patrick never lived in that Monastery ¶ 20. the high praise of the place ibidem with profane flattery C. 10. p. 136. ¶ 46. Roger GOAD the worthy Provost of Kings Colledge Hist. of Camb. p. 143. ¶ 5. Thomas GOAD his Son sent to the Synod of Dort b. 10. p. 80. ¶ 71. GODFATHERS used to men of mature age C. 7. ¶ 103. Christopher GOODMAN a violent Non-conformist b. 9. p. 77. ¶ 72. Godfry GOODMAN Bishop of Glocester suspended for his refusing to subscribe to the New Canons b. 11. p. 170. ¶ 22 23. John GOODMAN a seminarie Priest bandied betwixt life and death b. 11. p. 173. ¶ 39 c. Earle GODWIN by cheating gets the Nunnery of Berkley C. 11. ¶ 19. and the rich Mannour of Boseham ¶ 20. Francis GODWIN Son of a Bishop and himself made Bishop of Landaff by Q. Elizabeth in whose Reign he was born b. 9. ¶ 4. Count GONDOMAR jeared by Spalato returns it to purpose b. 10. p. 95. ¶ 7 and 8. procureth the Enlargement of many Iesuites p. 100. ¶ 22. a bitten complement passed on him by the Earle of Oxford p. 101. ¶ 21. King James by him willingly deceived p. 114. ¶ 30. his smart return unto him ¶ 31. GRAVELIN Nunnery founded by the Gages for the English of the poore Order of St. Clare b. 6. p. 363. The GREEK-tongue difference about the pronunciation thereof Hist. of Camb. p. 119. ¶ 7 c. Rich. GREENHAM dieth of the Plague b. 9. p. 219. ¶ 64. humbled in his life time with an obstinate Parish which he left at last ¶ 66. but with his own disliking p. 223. ¶ 68. a great observer of the Sabbath ¶ 69. GREGORY the Greatâ—his â—his discourse with the Merchants at Rome about the English Slaves b. 2. C. 6. ¶ 1. would in person but doth by proxy endeavour Englands Conversion ¶ 2. his exhortatory letter to Augustine ¶ 3. St. GRIMBALD a prime Professour in Oxford C. 9. ¶ 30. his contest with the old Students therein and departure in discontent ¶ 39. Edmund GRINDAL made Bishop of London b. 9. p. 62. ¶ 31. his discourse with the Non-conformist then Arch-bishop of Cant. p. 108. ¶ 18. why he fell into the Queens displeasure p. 119. ¶ 1. the Latine Petition of the Convocation pen'd by Toby Matthews to the Queen in his behalf prevaileth not p. 120 121. his large letter to the Queen in defending prophecies from p. 123. to p. 130. offendeth the Earle of Leicester by denying Lambeth House p. 130 ¶ 4. our English Eli p. 163. ¶ 10. dyes poore in estate but rich in good works ¶ 11. Robert Grout-head Bishop of Lincoln b. 3. p. 65. ¶ 28. offendeth the Pope ¶ 29. Sainted though not by the Pope by the people ¶ 31. GUN-POWDER TREASON the story at large b. 10. p. 34 35 36 c. St. GUTHLAKE the first Saxon Eremite C. 8. ¶ 7. H. William HACKET a blasphemous Heretick his story b. 9. p. 204. ¶ 32 c. Dr. John HACKET his excellent speech in the behalf of Deans and Chapters b. 11. p. 177 178 179. Alexander HALES the first of all School-men C. 14. p. 96. ¶ 16. Sr. Robert HALES Prior of St. Joanes slain in Jack Straws rebellion b. 4. p. 140. ¶ 20. Sr. James Hales a Iudge refuseth to underwrite the disinheriting of Queen Mary and Q. Elizabeth b. 8. ¶ 4. Joseph HALL since Bishop of Norwich sent by K. James to the Synod of Dort b. 10. p. 77. ¶ 63. his speech at his departure thence for want of health p. 79. ¶ 70. his letter to the Author in iust vindication of that Synod against Master Goodwin p. 85. ¶ 7. King HAROLD usurpeth the Crown C. 11. ¶ 39. killed and buried with much a do in Waltham Hist. of Walth p. 7. ¶ 2. Samuel HARSNET Arch-bishop of York his charging of Bishop Davenant b. 11. p. 138. ¶ 15. his death ¶ 31. HEAFENFIELD near Hexham in Northumberland why so called C. 7. ¶ 63. HEILE a Saxon Idoll their Aesculapius b. 2. C. 6. ¶ 6. destroyed by Augustine the Monk C. 7. ¶ 21. King HENRY the first surnamed Beauclark his Coronation b. 3. p. 13. ¶ 41. married Maud a professed Votary p. 15. ¶ 1 2 c. clasheth with Anselm p. 19. ¶ 4 5 c. his death on a surfeit p. 24. ¶ 27. bred in Camb. Hist. of Camb. p. 2. ¶ 3. King HENRY the second cometh to the Crown b. 3. p. 30. ¶ 52. his character 53. refineth the Common Law divideth England into Circuits p. 31. ¶ 54. politickly demolisheth many Castles ¶ 56. contesteth with Thomas Becket p. 32 33 c. heavy penance for consenting to his death p. 35. ¶ 68. afflicted with his undutifull Son Henry p. 37. ¶ 1. the farre extent of the English