of the Dutchy were sent by the House to the Lord Keeper in the name of the whole House to require his Lordship to revoke two Writs of Subpoena's which were served upon M. Th. Knevit a Member of the House since the Beginning of Parliament The Lord Keeper demanded of them whether they were appointed by any advised Consideration of the House to deliver this Message unto him with the word Required in such manner as they had done or no they answered his Lordship yea his Lordship then said as he thought reverently and honourably of the House and of their Liberties and Privileges of the same so to revoke the said Subpoena's in that sort was to restrain Her Majesty in Her greatest Power which is Iustice in the Place wherein he serveth under Her and therefore he concluded as they had required him to revoke his Writ so he did require to deliberate Upon the 22 of February being Wednesday 18 Eliz. Report was made by Mr. Attorney of the Dutchy upon the Committee for the delivering of one Mr. Hall's man that the Committee found no Precedent for setting at large by the Mace any Person in Arrest but only by Writ and that by divers Precedents of Records perused by the said Committee it appeareth that every Knight Citizen or Burgess which doth require Privilege hath used in that case to take a Corporal Oath before the Lord Chancellor or Lord Keeper that the party for whom such Writ is prayed Came up with him and was his Servant at the time of the Arrest made Thereupon M. Hall was moved by the House to repair to the Lord Keeper and make Oath and then take a Warrant for a Writ of Privilege for his Servant It is accounted by some to be a Privilege of Parliament to have power to Examine Misdemeanours of Courts of Justice and Officers of State yet there is not the meanest Subjest but hath liberty upon just cause to question the misdemeanour of any Court or Officer if he suffer by them there is no Law against him for so doing so that this cannot properly be called a Privilege because it is not against any publick Law It hath been esteemed a great Favour of Princes to permit such Examinations For when the Lords were displeased with the Greatness of Pierce Gaveston it is said that in the next Parliament the whole Assembly obtain of the King to draw Articles of their Grievances which they did Two of which Articles were First that all Strangers should be banished the Court and Kingdom oâ—… which Gaveston was one Secondly that the business of the State should be treated of by the Councel of the Clergy and Nobles In the Reign of King Henry the sixth one Mortimer an Instrument of the Duke of York by promising the Kentish men a Reformation and freedom from Taxations wrought with the people that they drew to a Head and made this Mortimer otherwise Iack Cade their Leader who styled himself Captain Mend-all He presents to the Parliament the Complaints of the Commons and he petitions that the Duke of York and some other Lords might be received by the King into favour by the undue Practices of Suffolk and his Complices commanded from his Presence and that all their Opposites might be banished the Court and put from their Offices and that there might be a general amotion of corrupt Officers These Petitions are sent from the Lower House to the Upper and from thence committed to the Lords of the Kings Privy Councel who having examined the particulars explode them as frivolous and the Authors of them to be presumptuous Rebels Concerning Liberty or freedom of Speech I find that at a Parliament at Black Friars in the 14 of Henry the Eighth Sir Tho. More being chosen Speaker of the House of Commons He first disabled himself and then petitioned the King that if in Communication and Reasoning any man in the Commons House should speak more largely than of duty they ought to do that all such Offences should be pardoned and to be entred of Record which was granted It is observable in this Petition that liberty or freedom of Speech is not a power for men to speak what they will or please in Parliament but a Privilege not to be punished but pardoned for the offence of speaking more largely than in duty ought to be which in an equitable construction must be understood of rash unadvised ignorant or negligent Escapes and Slips in Speech and not for wilful malicious Offences in that kind And then the Pardon of the King was desired to be upon Record that it might be pleaded in Bar to all Actions And it seemeth that Ric. Strood and his Complices were not thought sufficiently protected for their free Speech in Parliament unless their Pardon were confirmed by the King in Parliament for there is a printed Statute to that purpose in H. 8 ths time Touching the freedom of Speech the Commons were warned in Q. Eliz. dayes not to meddle with the Queens Person the State or Church-government In her time the Discipline of the Church was so strict that the Litany was read every morning in the House of Commons during the Parliament and when the Commons first ordered to have a Fast in the Temple upon a Sunday the Queen hindred it 21 Ian. Saturday 23 Eliz. the Case is thus reported Mr. Paul Wentworth moveth for a Publick set Fast and for a Preaching every morning at 7 of the clock before the House sate the House was divided about the Fast 115 were for it and an 100 against it it was ordered that as many of the House as conveniently could should on Sunday fortnight after Assemble and meet together in the Temple-Church there to hear Preaching and to joyn together in Prayer with Humiliation and Fasting for the Assistance of God's Spirit in all their Consultations during this Parliament and for the Preservation of the Queens Majesty and Her Realms And the Preachers to be appointed by the Privy Councel that were of the House that they may be Discreet not medling with Innovation or Unquietness This Order was followed by a Message from Her Majesty to the House declared by Mr. Vice-chamberlain that Her Highness had a great Admiration of the rashness of this House in committing such an apparent Contempt of her express Command as to put in execution such an Innovation without Her privity or pleasure first known Thereupon Mr. Vice-chamberlain moved the House to make humble submission to Her Majesty acknowledging the said Offence and Contempt craving a Remission of the same with a full purpose to forbear the Committing of the like hereafter and by the Consent of the whole House Mr. Vice-chamberlain carried their Submission to her Majesty 35 Eliz. Mr. Peter Wentworth and Sir Henry Bromley delivered a Petition to the Lord Keeper desiring the Lords of the upper House to be Suppliants with them of the lower House unto her Majesty for entailing the Succession of the Crown Whereof a Bill
first before the Councel of Edw. 4. after that before the President of the Requests of that King Hen. 7. and then lastly before the Councel of the said King 1 Hen. 7. In the time of Hen. 3. an Order or Provision was made by the Kings Councel and it was pleaded at the Common Law in Bar to a Writ of Dower the Plaintifs Atturney could not deny it and thereupon the Judgment was ideo sine die It seems in those days an Order of the Kings Councel was either parcell of the Common Law or above it Also we may find the Judges have had Regard that before they would resolve or give Judgment in new Cases they consulted with the Kings Privy Councel In the case of Adam Brabson who was assaulted by R. W. in the Presence of the Justices of Assise at Westminster the Judges would have the Advice of the Kings Councel for in a like Case because R. C. did strike a Juror at Westminster which passed against one of his Friends It was adjudged by all the Councel that his right hand should be cut off and his Lands and Goods forfeited to the King Green and Thorp were sent by the Judges to the Kings Councel to demand of them whether by the Stat. of 14 Edw. 3. 16. a word may be amended in a Writ and it was answered that a word may be well amended although the Stat. speaks but of a Letter or Syllable In the Case of Sir Thomas Ogthred who brought a Formedon against a poor man and his Wife they came and yielded to the Demandant which seemed suspitious to the Court whereupon Judgment was staid and Thorp said that in the like case of Giles Blacket it was spoken of in Parliament and we were commanded that when any like should come we should not go to Judgment without good Advice therefore the Judges Conclusion was Sues an counseil comment ils voilent que nous devomus faire nous volums faire autrement nient en oest case sue to the Councel and as they will have us to do we will do and otherwise not in this Case 39 Edw. 3. Thus we see the Judges themselves were guided by the Kings Councel and yet the Opinions of Judges have guided the Lords in Parliament in Point of Law All the Judges of the Realm Barons of Exchequer of the Quoif the Kings learned Councel and the Civilians Masters of Chancery are called Temporal Assistants by Sir Edw. Coke and though he deny them Voices in Parliament yet lie confesseth that by their Writ they have Power both to treat and to give Councel I cannot find that the Lords have any other Power by their Writ the Words of the Lords Writ are That you be present with Us the Prelates Great men and Peers to treat and give your Counsel The words of the Judges Writ are that you be present with Us and others of the Counsel and sometimes with Us only to treat and give your Counsel The Judges usually joyned in Committees with the Lords in all Parliaments even in Queen Eliz. Reign untill her 39th Year and then upon the 7th of November the Judges were appointed to attend the Lords And whereas the Judges have Liberty in the upper House it self upon Leave given them by the L. Keeper to cover themselves now at Committees they sit always uncovered The Power of Judges in Parliament is best understood if we consider how the judicial Power of Peers hath been exercised in matter of Judicature we may find it hath been the Practice that though the Lords in the Kings Absence give Judgment in Point of Law yet they are to be directed and regulated by the Kings Judges who are best able to give Direction in the difficult Points of the Law which ordinarily are unknown to the Lords And therefore if any Errour be committed in the Kings Bench which is the highest ordinary Court of Common Law in the Kingdom that Errour must be redressed in Parliament And the Manner is saith the Lord Chancellor Egerton If a Writ of Errour be sued in Parl. upon a Iudgment given by the Iudges in the Kings Bench the Lords of the higher House alone without the Commons are to examine the Errours The Lords are to proceed according to the Law and for their Iudgments therein they are to be informed by the Advice and Councel of the Iudges who are to inform them what the Law is and to direct them in their Iudgment for the Lords are not to follow their own Discretion or Opinion otherwise 28 Hen. 6. the Commons made Sute that W. de la Pool D. of Suffolk should be committed to Prison for many Treasons and other Crimes the Lords of the higher House were doubtful what Answer to give the Opinion of the Iudges was demanded their Opinion was that he ought not to be committed for that the Commons did not charge him with any particular Offence but with general Reports and Slanders this Opinion was allowed 31. Hen. 6. A Parliament being prorogued in the Vacation the Speaker of the House of Commons was condemned in a thousand Pounds Damages in an Action of Trespass and committed to Prison in Execution for the same when the Parliament was re-assembled the Commons made sute to the King and Lords to have their Speaker delivered The Lords demanded the Opinion of the Judges whether he might be delivered out of Prison by Privilege of Parliament upon the Judges Answer it was concluded that the Speaker should remain iâ—… Prison according to the Law notwithstanding the Privilege of Parliament and that he was Speaker which Resolution was declared to the Commons by Moyâ—… the Kings Serjeant at Law and the Commons were commanded in the Kings name by the Bishop 〈◊〉 Lincoln in the absence of the Arch-bishop of Canterbury then Chancellor to chuse another Speaker 7 Hen. 8. A Question was moved in Parliament Whether Spiritual Persons might be convented before Temporal Iudges for criminal Causes there Sir Iohn Fineux and the other Judges delivered their Opinion that they might and ought to be and their Opinion allowed and maintained by the King and Lords and Dr. Standish who before had holden the same Opinion wâ—… delivered from the Bishops I find it affirmed that in Causes which receive Determination in the House of Lords the King hath 〈◊〉 Vote at all no more than in other Courts of ministerial Iurisdiction True it is the King hath no Vote at all if we understand by Vote a Voice among others for he hath no partners with Him in giving Judgement But if by no Vote is meant he hath no Power to judge we dispoil him of his Sovereignty It is the chief Mark of Supremacy to judge in the highest Causes and last Appeals This the Children of Israel full well understood when they petitioned for a King to judge them if the dernier resoâ—… be to the Lords alone then they have the Supremacy But as Moses by chusing Elders to judge in small Causes did
not thereby lose his Authority to be Judge himself when he pleased even in the smallest matters much less in the greatest which he reserved to himself so Kings by delegating others to judge under them do not thereby denude themselves of a Power to judge when they think good There is a Distinction of these times that Kings themselves may not judge but they may see and look to the Iudges that they give Iudgment according to Law and for this Purpose only as some say Kings may sometimes sit in the Courts of Justice But it is not possible for Kings to see the Laws executed except there be a Power in Kings both to judge when the Laws are duely executed and when not as also to compell the Judges if they do not their Duty Without such Power a King sitting in Courts is but a Mockery and a Scorn to the Judges And if this Power be allowed to Kings then their Judgments are supream in all Courts And indeed our Common Law to this Purpose doth presume that the King hath alâ—… Laws within the Cabinet of His Breast in Scrinio pectoris saith Crompton's Jurisdiction 108. When several of our Statutes leave many things to the Pleasure of the King for us to interpret all those Statutes of the Will and Pleasure of the Kings Iustices only is to give an absolute Arbitrary Power to the Justices in those Cases wherein we deny it to the King The Statute of 5 Hen. 4. c. 2. makes a Difference between the King and the Kings Iustices in these words Divers notorious Felons be indicted of divers Felonies Murders Rapes and as well before the Kings Iustices as before the King himself arreigned of the same Felonies I read that in An. 1256. Hen. 3. sate in the Eâ—…chequer and there set down Order for the Appearance Sheriffs and bringing in their Accounts there wâ—… five Marks set on every Sheriffs Head for a Fine bâ—…cause they had not distrained every Person that migâ—… dispend fifteen pounds Lands by the Year to receive tâ—… Order of Knighthood according as the same Sherifâ—… were commanded In Michaelmas Term 1462. Edw. 4. sate thâ—… dayes together in open Court in the Kings Bench. For this Point there needs no further Proofs bâ—…cause Mr. Pryn doth confess that Kings themselvâ—… have sate in Person in the Kings Bench and other Couâ—… and there given Iudgment p. 32. Treachery and Dâ—…loyalty c. Notwithstanding all that hath been said for tâ—… Legislative and Judicial Power of Kings Mr. Pryâ—… is so far from yielding the King a Power to maâ—… Laws that he will not grant the King a power to hinder a Law from being made that is 〈◊〉 allows Him not a Negative Voice in most case which is due to every other even to the Meaâ—…est Member of the House of Commons in his Judgment To prove the King hath not a Negative Voice 〈◊〉 main and in truth his only Argument insisted oâ—… is a Coronation-Oath which is said anciently soâ—… of our Kings of England have taken wherein thâ—… grant to defend and protect the just Laws and Customâ—… which the Vulgar hath or shall chuse Iustas Legâ—… Consuetudines quas vulgus elegerit Hence Mâ—… Pryn concludes that the King cannot deny any Iaâ—… which the Lords and Commons shall make choâ—… of for so he will have vulgus to signifie Though neither our King nor many of His Predecessors ever took this Oath nor were bound to â—…ake it for ought appears yet we may admit â—…hat our King hath taken it and answer we may be confident that neither the Bishops nor Privy Councel nor Parliament nor any other whosoever they were that framed or penn'd this Oath ever intended in this word Vulgus the Commons in Parliament much less the Lords they would never so much disparage the Members of Parliament as to disgrace them with a Title both base and false it had been enough if not too much to have called them Populus the People but Vulgus the Vulgar the rude Multitude which hath the Epithet of Ignobile Vulgus is a word as dishonourable to the Composers of the Oath to give or for the King to use as for the Members of the Parliament to receive it being most false for the Peers cannot be Vulgus because they are the prime Persons of the Kingdom next the Knights of the Shires are or ought to be notable Knights or notable Esquires or Gentlemen born in the Counties as shall be able to be Knights then the Citizens and Burgesses are to be most sufficient none of these can be Vulgus even those Free-holders that chuse Knights are the best and ablest men of their Counties there being for every Free-holder above ten of the Common People to be found to be termed the Vulgar Therefore it rests that vulgus must signifie the vulgar or common People and not the Lords and Commons But now the Doubt will be what the Common People or vulgus out of Parliament have to do to chuse Laws The Answer is easie and ready there goeth before quas vulgus the Antecedeâ—… Consuetudines that is the Customs which the Vulghath or shall chuse Do but observe the Nature 〈◊〉 Custom and it is the Vulgus or Common People only who chuse Customs Common Usage time out 〈◊〉 mind creates a Custom and the commoner 〈◊〉 Usage is the stronger and the better is the Custom no where can so common an Usage be found 〈◊〉 among the Vulgar who are still the far greatâ—… part of every Multitude if a Custom be commoâ—… through the whole Kingdom it is all one with the Common Law in England which is said to be Common Custom Thus in plain Terms to protect the Customs which the Vulgar chuse is to swear to protect the Common Laws of England But grant that Vulgus in the Oath signifies Lordâ—… and Commons and that Consuetudines doth not signifie Customs but Statutes as Mr. Pryn for a desperate Shift affirms and let elegerit be the Future or Preterperfect Tense even which Mr. Pryn please yet it cannot exclude the Kings negative Voice for as Consuetudines goeth before quas vulgus so doth justas stand before leges consuetudines so that not all Laws but only all just Laws are meant If the sole Choice of the Lords and Commons did oblige the King to protect their Choice without Power of Denial what Need or why is the Word justas put in to raise a Scruple that some Laws may be unjust Mr. Pryn will not say that a Decree of a General Councel or of a Pope is infallible nor â—… think a Bill of the Lords and Commons is infallible just and impossible to erre if he do Sir Edward Coke will tell him that Parliaments have been utterly deceived and that in eases of greatest Moment even iâ—… case of High Treason and he calls the Statute of 11 Hen. 7. an unjust and strange Act. But it may be Mr. Pryn will confess that Laws chosen by the Lords and
I read that the Senators who are all chosen out of the Nobility and seldom exceed the number of 28 with the chief of the Realm do chuse their King They have always in a manner set the Kings eldest Son upon the Royal Throne The Nobility of Denmarke withstood the Coronation of Frederick 1559 till he sware not to put any Noble-man to death until he were judged of the Senate and that all Noble-men should have power of life and death over their Subjects without appeal and the King to give no Office without consent of the Councel There is a Chancelour of the Realm before whom they do appeal from all the Provinces and Islands and from him to the King himself I hear of nothing in this Kingdom that tends to Popularity no Assembly of the Commons no elections or representation of them Sweden is governed by a King heretofore elective but now made hereditary in Gustavus time it is divided into Provinces an appeal lieth from the Vicount of every territory to a Soveraign Judge called a Lamen from the Lamens to the Kings Councel and from this Councel to the King himself Now let the Observator bethink himself whether all or any of these three Countries have found out any art at all whereby the people or community may assume its own power if neither of these Kingdomes have most Countries have not nay none have The people or Community in these three Realms are as absolute vassals as any in the world the regulating power if any be is in the Nobility Nor is it such in the Nobility as it makes shew for The election of Kings is rather a Formality than any real power for they dare hardly chuse any but the Heir or one of the blood Royal if they should chuse one among the Nobility it would prove very factious if a stranger odious neither safe For the Government though the Kings be sworn to raign according to the Laws and are not to do any thing without the consent of their Councel in publick affairs yet in regard they have power both to advance and reward whom they please the Nobility and Senators do comply with their Kings And Boterus concludes of the Kings of Poland who seem to be most moderated that such as is their valour dexterity and wisdome such is their Power Authority and Government Also Bodin saith that these three Kingdoms are States changable and uncertain as the Nobility is stronger than the Prince or the Prince than the Nobility and the people are so far from liberty that he saith Divers particular Lords exact not onely Customs but Tributes also which are confirmed and grow stronger both by long prescription of time and use of Iudgments The End AN ADVERTISEMENT TO THE JURY-MEN of ENGLAND TOUCHING WITCHES ADVERTISEMENT To the JURY-MEN OF ENGLAND THE late Executon of Witches at the Summer Assises in Kent occasioned this brief Exercitation which addresses it self to such as have not deliberately thought upon the great difficulty in discovering what or who a Witch is To have nothing but the publick Faith of the present Age is none of the best Evidence unless the universality of elder times do concur with these Doctrines which ignorance in the times of darkness brought forth and credulity in these days of light hath continued Such as shall not be pleased with this Tractate are left to their liberty to consider whether all those Proofs and Presumptions number'd up by Mr. Perkins for the Conviction of a Witch be not all Condemned or confessed by himself to be unsufficient or uncertain He brings no less than eighteen signs or proofs whereby a Witch may be discovered which are too many to be all true his seven first he himself confesseth to be insufficient for Conviction of a Witch His eight next proofs which he saith men in place have used he acknowledgeth to be false or insufficient Thus of his Eighteen proofs which made a great shew fifteen of them are cast off by himself there remains then his sixteenth which is the Confession of a Witch yet presently he is forced to yield That a bare Confession is not a sufficient proof and so he cometh to his seventeenth proof which is two credible witnesses and he here grants that the League between the Devil and the Witch is closely made and the practices of Witches be very secret that hardly a man can be brought which upon his own knowledge can aver such things Therefore at last when all other proofs fail he is forced to fly to his eighteenth proof and tells us that yet there is a way to come to the knowledge of a Witch which is that Satan useth all means to discover a Witch which how it can be well done except the Devil be bound over to give in evidence against the Witch cannot be understood And as Mr. Perkins weakens and discredits all his own proofs so he doth the like for all those of King James who as I remember hath but Three Arguments for the discovery of a Witch First the secret Mark of a Witch of which Mr. Perkins saith it hath no power by Gods Ordinance Secondly The discovery by a fellow Witch this Mr. Perkins by no means will allow to be a good proof Thirdly the swimming of a Witch who is to be flung cross ways into the water that is as Wierus interprets it when the Thumb of the right Hand is bound to the great Toe of the left Foot and the Thumb of the left Hand to the great Toe of the right Foot Against this Tryal by water together with a disability in a Witch to shed Tears which King James mentions Delrio and Mr. Perkins both argue for it seems they both write after King James who put forth his Book of Daemonologie in his youth being in Scotland about his age of thirty years It concerns the people of this Nation to be more diligently instructed in the Doctrine of Witch-craft than those of Forraign Countries because here they are tyed to a stricter or exacter Rule in giving their sentence than others are for all of them must agree in their Verdict which in a case of extream difficulty is very dangerous and it is a sad thing for men to be reduced to that extremity that they must hazard their Consciences or their Lives A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN An English and Hebrew WITCH THE Point in Question is briefly this Whether such a Witch as is Condemned by the Laws and Statutes of this Land be one and the same with the Witch forbidden by the Law of Moses The Witch Condemned by our Statute-law is 1 Iacob Cap. 12. One that shall use practice or exercise any Invocation or Conjuration of any evil or wicked spirit or consult covenant with entertain or employ feed or reward any evil or wicked spirit to or for any intent or purpose or take up any dead man woman or child out of his her or their grave or any other place where the dead body resteth or the
of less sufficient that it may not displease such friends as I conceive allow those less sufficient proofs for sufficient though he reckons them for no better than Witch-craft Those unsufficient sufficient proofs are weaker and worse than his presumptions which he confesseth are no proofs at all yet we must reckon them up His first less sufficient proof is The antient trial by taking red-hot Irons or putting the hand in hot scalding water this he saith hath been condemned for Diabolical and wicked as in truth it is for an innocent man may thereby be condemned and a rank Witch scape unpunished A second insufficient proof is Scratching of the suspected party and the present recovery thereupon A third is the burning the thing bewitched is a Hog an Ox or other Creature it is imagined a forcible means to cause the Witch to discover her self A fourth is the burning the Thatch of the suspected parties House The fifth less sufficient proof is the binding of the party hand and foot and casting cross-ways into the water if she sinks she is counted innocent if she float on the water and sink not she is taken for a Witch convicted and punished The Germans used this Tryal by cold water and it was imagined that the Devil being most light as participating more of Air than of Water would hold them up above the water either by putting himself under the Witch and lifting her up as it were with his back or by uniting himself and possessing her whole body All these less sufficient proofs saith Mr. Perkins are so far from being sufficient that some of them if not all are after a sort practices of Witch-craft having no power by Gods Ordinance Hereby he condemns point-blank King Iames's judgment as savouring of Witchraft in allowing of the Tryal of a Witch by swimming as a principal proof And as I take it he condemns himself also except he can find any Ordinance of God that the having of an incurable and insensible mark or sore shall be a presumption or certain sign of a Witch A sixth less sufficient proof is the Testimony of a Wizard Witch or cunning man who is gone or sent unto and informs that he can shew in a glass the Face of the Witch This accusation of a Witch by another Witch Mr. Perkins denies to be sufficient and he puts this case If the Devil appear to a grand Iury in the likeness of some known man and offer to take his Oath that the person in question is a Witch should the Enquest receive his Oath or accusation to condemn the party He answers Surely no and yet that is as much as the Testimony of another Witch who onely by the help of the Devil revealeth the Witch if this should be taken for a sufficient proof the Devil would not leave one good man alive in the world This discrediting of the Testimony of a Witch takes away the other for he hath but two of King Iames main proofs for the discovery of a Witch for he saith Who but Witches can be provers and so witnesses of the doings of Witches and to the same purpose Mr. Perkins himself confesseth that the Precepts of Witch-craft are not delivered but to the Devils own Subjects the wicked A seventh less sufficient proof is when a man in open Court affirms such a one fell out with me and cursed me threatning I should smart for it in my person or goods upon these threats such Evils and Losses presently befel me this is no sure ground for Conviction saith Mr. Perkins for it pleaseth God many times to lay his Hands upon mens persons and goods without the procurement of Witches and yet saith Mr. Perkins Experience shews that ignorant people will make strong proofs of such presumptions whereupon sometimes Iurors do give their Verdict against parties innocent The last less sufficient proof is if a man being sick upon suspition will take it on his death that such a one hath bewitched him it is of no moment saith Mr. Perkins it is but the suspition of one man for himself and is of no more force than another mans word against him All these proofs saith Mr. Perkins which men in place have ordinarily used be either false or insufficient signs At the last Mr. Perkins comes to his more sufficient proofs which are in all but two The confession of the Witch or the proof of two witnesses Against the confession of a Witch Mr. Perkins confesseth it is objected that one may confess against himself an untruth being urged by force or threatning or by desire upon some grief to be out of the World or at least being in trouble and perswaded it is the best course to save their lives and obtain their liberty they may upon simplicity be induced to confess that they never did even against themselves The truth of this Allegation Mr. Perkins doth not deny but grants it in that his Answer is That he doth not say a bare Confession is sufficient but a Confession after due Examination taken upon pregnant presumptions But if a bare confession be not a sufficient proof a pregnant presumption can never make it such or if it could then it would not be a sufficient proof For the farther weakning of the confession of a suspected Witch we may remember what Mr. Perkins hath formerly answered when it was alleadged that upon a melancholy humour many confess of themselves things false and impossible That they are carried through the Air in a moment that they pass through key-holes and cleffs of Doors that they be sometimes turn'd into Cats Hares and other Creatures and such like all which are meer fables and things impossible Here Mr. Perkins answers that when Witches begin to make a League they are sober and sound in understanding but after they be once in the League their reason and understanding may be depraved memory weakned and all the powers of their Soul blemished they are deluded and so intoxicated that they will run into a thousand of phantastical imaginations holding themselves to be transformed into the shapes of other Creatures to be transported in the Air to do many strange things which in truth they do not Now Mr. Perkins will confess that the Examination and Confession of a suspected Witch is always after such time as her Covenant is made when she is by his Confession deluded and not fit to give testimony against her self His second more sufficient proof he saith if the party will not confess as commonly it falleth out is two witnesses avouching upon their own knowledge either that the party accused hath made League with the Devil or hath done some known practices of Witch-craft or hath invocated the Devil or desired his help But if every man that hath invocated the Devil or desired his help must have formerly made a League with him then whole Nations are every man of them Witches which I think none will say As for the League and proof of Witchraft Mr.