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A78474 Certaine modest observations and considerations of the true Protestants of the Church of EnglandĀ· For their right choyce of church governours, and church ceremonies, together with the church liturgie, according to the word of God. Presented in all humility to the high and Honourable houses of Parliament to bee voted and enacted, and to maintaine against all opposers. With the good meanes to expedite the same. Leaving the authors iudgement to your wisedomes best considerations. 1641 (1641) Wing C1706; Thomason E178_7; ESTC R1377 7,880 14

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heart and then it brings you to see God by the purest of all men Christ Jesus yea you shall see Christ cleerely in his Throne of Majesty which they and other Sectaries have endeavoured to put out yea also you shall see Christ by such Acts and Votes performed therein as in his word most lively And lastly by the true Concord and agreement of both Honourable Houses effecting this worke you shall see Heaven opened to you hereafter for your soules comfort and honour on Eternity The 6. and last Consideration concluding all is I herefore humbly to move the House of Peeres and Commons to stick close to Christ as by confessing and professing him so by redressing before men Christ will then professe you his friends before his Father in Heaven there is your reward above get it by Petition of right too from the King as you have done for the Common Law this will be an extraordinary common good to the Protestants faith hope and love as all your Christian minds J doubt not are setled therein to strengthen your selves noble Senators against all oppositions that you may stand fast in the Liberties wherewith Christ hath made you free too if you should doubt the Royalty of his Majesties will by him expressed to this Parliament and since from Scotland as is supposed that he will keepe the Government of Queen Elizabeth and his Royall Father good patternes for those times that then was used for want of better helpes they were like the good King Davids that Religiously meant well but Salomon his Sonne must build the Temple and he is a good Prince that will be like his good Progenitors but he is a better Prince that will amend and be a more clearer way when it makes more for the glory of God the honour and comfort of the King and to his people peace and godlinesse so shall our King be like Salomon not onely to imitate the worth of Queene Elizabeth and King James in their Religions but farre more edifie and build the Temple of Ierusalem a new much decayed in England and every true Protestant is committed the Temple of the Holy Ghost for assuredly as Protestants were many in Queene Elizabeth and King Iames times so by this Reformation there will be many more and better in our King Salomons time J meane King Charles Some thinke his Majesty being in Scotland would not write such a Letter there concerning his will about Church-Government and Discipline of England because what is allowed good there is from the same truth good here and to have the like were but a true Piety and Vn●ty for the Church to the peace of both King and Kingdomes but then since to turne this Letter into a booke tituled King Charles his Speech in Scotland concerning the same by no authority knowne for that there is used irrefragrant tearmes as if the King should conceive if Lord Bishops were put downe as the Protestants seeme to desire it that then the Tryeniall Parliament next may thrust out the Lords also which is a bitter disposition to breed d●scord betweene the two houses at least a terror to their new proceedings for it is well knowne our Parliaments cannot stand good without the Peeres though without Lord Bishops they may And as J shewed before Queen Elizabeth and King Iames did not alter those things they then might and which now we may for Q. Elizabeth came to the Crowne a Virgin Queene persecuted before and in time of persecution they found Bishops more zealous and willing helps to establish her Raign in Church-Government as for truth she best could have against Popery and were very frequent in preaching both in Court City and Countrey in these times and a true Lover of their Protestant Brethren the Ministers and King Iames following after her to the Crown in that setled Goverment and Governors wherein for her time she was famous over the world finding the people of England more gentle and passive then the Scots who were more active and practive to worke their owne ends in evill before as they were counted Rebels of the North and thereby a Scot was an odious name in England as King Iames knew as also sometimes too busie upon Kings consciences who yet after his Raigne here in England procured them to entertaine some Lord Bishops in Scotland he was a King of exceeding great wisdome and knowledge to dispute and discerne as ever at his Table here in England Bishops attending him he was schooling them in Arguments and Conferences did thereby keepe them in awe of truth and favoured no lying or flattery but shewed himselfe like good King David in the 101 Psal To rule both his house and them in sincerity and so refused for Reasons aforesaid to make any alterations in his time according to the Scots Government Now could King Charles doe as he did since his Marriage with our gracious Queen and did the Bishops no worse since by too much inclining to Arminianisme and Popery and leaning too much on their side as appeares divers wayes but especially by the Innovations of Government which was not in Queen Elizabeth or King James time who withstood them both J should conceive a Reformation of evils in our now Lord Bishops might be rather then a deformation of them qu●te in this state which is not possible to be so long as Popery hath such a power hand in England unexecuted Lord Bishops first arising from them and having never had any warrant from Gods word is now more safer to Reforme then to keepe up and so to looke forward them backward to amend that which is amisse both for Gods glory and the Kingdomes good and so let the Protestants by this their Honourable Councell of Parliament have the true choyce both of Governors and government and settle the Lyturgie according to sincere truth and examples So shall our King be accounted as glorious as wise Salomon for renewing and rebuilding of the decayed Temples of the holy Ghost as he doth of St. Pauls Church a materiall Temple and so both renewes together Therefore it shall be no doubt by your grave Senators Wisedomes still to perswade our King that ye must booke forward not backward in Regall government and you are both for the King and his Subjects in the ploughing season and it may seeme a hard worke and taske to goe forward to Christ without looking backe yet Kings as other men must set their wills apt and imitate that Doctrine and Discipline which is nearest to our Father and Saviour in Heaven Worldly policy must bend to this plough least looking backe we be turned like Lots wife into a pillar of unsavory Salt Thus much for your incouragement to hope well in our King when you have done your best to plough rightly that at last you may say with St. Paul We have fought a great fight and sought to finish the Parliaments true course and for to keepe the Protestants most Christian faith for which the Crowne of England for building up these broken walles of Ierusalem and the glorious Crowne of Heaven shall honour you highly Therefore noble Senators slack no time nor suffer opposition of your wisedomes votes unto speedy Acts by all good meanes for setling of the peace of our Ierusalem the King and his people and stop the mouthes of those which say That English men are more passive then active all then will have cause to pray and praise you and God in you and other Nations and Christian Reformed Churches that listens after your proceedings extoll you duely and then it will follow in the next degree of your Temporall Reformation by ploughing up of the Bryers and Thornes when Gods Temples hath found his blessing their hearts and hands will follow you for the good of the ●ommon-wealth Let England pray therefore for true Concord between these two famous houses of Parliament that without seperation division you may be like Jonathan and David and then it is not to bee feared that your wisdomes and gracious heart of our King Charles as the head of Englands Protestants body will be ready to fulfill all your just votes desires as the same body hath yeelded for the King their head such Nutrimentall supplyes not of English Milke and honey compared like the Land of Canaan which flew above his other Nation for his comfort and pleasure but with such gold and silver money weakning themselves for his honours credit to all Nations from free hearts and loving Subjects and so J cannot better ●nd these Considerations then to desire God to preserve you all and in all your proceedings from your enemies and that this Kingdome may be kept from Civill dissentions by your blessed labours and Councells FINIS
CERTAINE MODEST OBSERVATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS of the true Protestants of the Church of ENGLAND For their right choyce of Church Governours and Church Ceremonies together with the Church Liturgie according to the word of God Presented in all humility to the high and Honourable houses of PARLIAMENT to bee voted and enacted and to maintaine against all opposers With the good meanes to expedite the same Leaving the Authors Iudgement to your Wisedomes best Considerations LONDON Printed for IOHN THOMAS 1641. Certaine modest Observations and Considerations of the true Protestants Right in the just choyce of the Church Governours Church Ceremonies and Church Liturgy according to the Word for the Honourable Houses of Parliament to vote enact and maintaine against all oppositions The Authors best Iudgement left to their wise Considerations MOst Noble and Wise Senators of this famous and well hoped Parliament J have stood long musing upon the excellent Reports of your grave proceedings concerning the Church of England whether to forbeare or to present my plain and Rigid lines knowing that many hath writ and printed to your views divers Books some judiciall and some Phanaticall And seeing the necessity of some solid truth to be performed and judged of speedily without delay for the glory of God and good of this Church and State for setled Right and Government to be held in this our Nation which might not savour of Customes which oft-times prevailes and proves a Tyrant and well by some so called where it is maintained from undue and unjust beginnings and proceedings as in our Lord Bishops too plainly hath appeared amongst whom to have Lord Archbishops to be Overseers of Overseers is the most seeming groundlesse without reason and Religion Groundlesse because high Priests to the Iewes Christ and the Apostles over the Church Ministery is no true president for them to ground Archbishops by for in the Gospell it ceased and Christ Iesus was the high Priest yea and the onely Archbishop of our Soules by that Government he hath prescribed unto Bishops of his Church his Apostles after him which to plead custome for higher Government is an abuse to Christ and if there bee any substitute to Christ to take place of Archbishops it must be he whom is the Defender of the Faith of Christ our King and his high Councell to be Arch-Overseers for it is too plaine that such will oversee the Errors of their Brother Bishops nay more bring them to errours too I shall not need to repeat them This Parliament hath found examples too many The Second Consideration is to beat backe the feares of the learned and wise that thinke this Change is a Novelty of as great consequence as the late Innovations of our Church by the Bishops Let this satisfie if they feare God as I verily thinke some that spake it doth and will take satisfaction this change and Novelty is no further then to Renovate the old Truth of Gods revealed word to his people The other is an addition and so drawes in a curse to adde or diminash and sure these Honorable Houses have taken notice of the Protestants Testimony and redressed their Innovations in some part and there are many more growes upon us if not prevented betimes so many Sectaries labouring with Petitions to these Honourable Houses to support their owne opinions which would turne to a great confusion if this High Court of Parliament should not speedily Rectifie as well against the Papists and their Priests which are indeed the true accounted Puritanes worthy of that scornefull Nick-name in the world and farre more exceeding the Sect of the Brownists so called But they with others of multitude named to the number of 29. or 30. severall Sexes and Schismes besides Atheists whom I feare are too many amongst us which could wish every Sectary might have liberty to use their owne consciences and opinions as if there were no Rule of conscience I need not name them all take upon them no lesse then the Sword of the Spirit to defend their errors but it is of the evill Spirit the Prince of darknesse because indeed their severall ground worke to perswade them is like the Divels Logique that used Scripture to our Saviour Christ though falsely But him he could not deceive no more J hope shall they to us Protestants whose truth is Christ and we protesting for Christ are the more truly to be accounted Christians of Christ if we stand to make choice and to enact and maintaine the true sincerity of Protestants Religion in Preaching Prayers and Ceremonies The third Consideration I have partly knowne and considered your Honorable actions and good Resolutions crossed and hindered by strong hand both for the good intended to the Church and Common-wealth by their evill intentions to intercept you if they can And it is from that potent power of malice the Prince of darknesse aforesaid that sowes his tares among your Wheat that endeavours to crosse all good intentions by preventions of which J need not tell you his further manner of power in so great a troubled Government both in Church and Common-wealth as the like hath not bin seene or heard of in this state these hundred of yeares and therefore you must first seeke to vanquish him and all your foes and factious heads must be made higher by a pole then their bodies for how can the Sheepfold be quiet while yet amongst them there be some Woolves you have a great worke and a great many to rule and wrastle with so fight that you may conquer too and cut off those that rayse tumults and errors for if they get a head the Kingdome is divided Separations are the wound of a Crowne whereby neglected it will bleed to death J feare by it some quarrels and divisions at last You have begun well why stick yee upon Aristippus or Diotrephes who loveth to have the preheminence and worketh Kings unto it I feare to make more such as then will prove as bad to him and us as the Vine-plants did of good Noah's owne planting if the Protestants Councell which is your selves doe not order the planting of it An example appeares in the Archbishops c. The last Deputy of Ireland c. that is fled away and some no doubt at home that hopes of a Kings power to quit them de●e●vers of the King and others The 4. Consideration For which causes as your greatest danger amongst all Heresies and Schismes amongst us this greatly marvailed that they the Papists are not chiefly parted from Brittaines Court and else-where in this Kingdome not yet fully Banished nor disarmed for it is my poore opinion which I conceive under favour nor groundlesse to establish Christ in his Throne and his truth to be advanced in the Protestant Religion Religion is first the chiefe evill to avoid them that are open enemies to Protestants and yet under the name of Christians too and Iesuites of Jesus that so counterfeit the name and practice contrary to Jesus and