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A37777 The declaration or remonstrance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled with divers depositions and letters thereunto annexed.; Remonstrance of the state of the kingdome, agreed on by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, May 19, 1642 England and Wales. Parliament.; Astley, Jacob Astley, Baron, 1579-1652.; Ballard, Thomas, Lieutenant Colonel to the Lord Grandison.; Chudleigh, James, d. 1643.; Conyers, John, Sir.; Goring, George Goring, Baron, 1608-1657.; Hunks, Fulk, Sir.; Lanyon, John.; Legge,William, 1609?-1670.; O'Connolly, Owen.; Percy, Henry, Baron Percy of Alnwick, d. 1659.; Vavasour, William, Sir, d. 1659. 1642 (1642) Wing E1517; ESTC R3809 41,214 58

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killed this night and that all the Posts that could bee could not prevent it And further saith That he moved the said Hugh to forbeare the executing of that businesse and to discover it to the State for the saving of his owne estate who said that he could not help it But said that they did owe their due allegeance to the King and would pay him all his Rights but that they did this for the tyrannicall Government was over them and to imitate Scotland who got a priviledge by that course And he further saith That when he was with the said Hugh in his lodging the second time the said Hugh swore that he should not goe out of his lodging that night but told him that he should goe with him the next morning to the Castle and said if this matter were discovered some body should die for it Whereupon this Examinant feigned some necessity for his easement went downe out of the Chamber and left his sword in pawne and the said Hugh sent his man downe with him And when this Examinant came downe into the yard finding an opportunity he this Examinant leaped over a wall and two pales and so came to the Lord Justice Parsons October 22. 1641. Owen Oconnelly William Parsons Tho Rotherham Rob Meridith The examination of Mark Pagett Parson of Morlestowne neare Kingsale in Ireland and Deane of Rosse there had and taken at Plimmouth in the County of Devon before Thomas Ceely Merchant Maior of the Burrough of Plimmouth aforesaid William Birch and Ioh Bound Merchants three of his Majesties Justices of the Peace within the said Burrough the fourth day of March 1641. The said Examinant saith that he came from Kingsale this day was seven-night and saith that the Rebellion in Ireland is generall except the Port Townes and Fortifications and saith that hee conceiveth that the Forces of the Rebels in Munster is betweene twenty or thirty thousand which lie neare Corke and Bandam Bridge in two bodies whereof the chiefe of one is Baron Loughland the Lord Mungarret the Lord Dunboi●e and divers other Lords and the chiefe of the other are Macarte Reath Teage Adowne Teage Adun van Durmet Glacke and Macke Phenning and divers others And this Examinant hath for certaine heard that the Earle of Clanrikard is likewise in Armes in Connough against the English Protestants and further saith that he knoweth that the Rebels have very good intelligence out of England of all passages here and for the most part speedier then the English have there and further saith that they threaten that assoone as they have rooted out the British and English there to invade England and assist the Papists in England And further saith that they have the Popes Lega●e amongst them as they report who sits constantly in counsell with Sir Phil●me Oneale who writes himselfe now Prince Oneale from his Pallace Charlemount the Lord Meggennys and divers others who directed and advised the rest of the Rebels And farther saith That the Irish Rebels doe report that they have the Kings Warrant and Great Seale for what they doe and say they are his Majesties true Subjects and that the English Protestants are Rebels and not they And further saith that the Rebels doe generally report that there are three factions in England whereof one is the Kings which consists for the most part of Courtiers and Bishops with some few Lords and Gentry Another the Puritans which is supported by the House of Commons some Lords and the Corporations and Cities in England And the third is the Queenes which they say is the greatest and consists of the Catholiques some Lords all the Priests and Jesuites besides the expectation they have of forraine forces And farther saith that they report that the Queenes faction will set such a division betweene the two others that it will root out both of them at last And farther saith that the said Irish doe bragge that the Queenes faction hath the command of most of the Fortes and Forces of England And this Examinant farther saith that he kneweth this to be usually reported amongst them for that he hath lived in Ireland these two and thirty yeares and beene incumbent of the said Church eighteene yeares and hath heard divers of the Irish Papists of the better sort to affirme so much which doth much hearten the Rebels and dishearten the English And farther saith that the Rebels have taken the Iron-workes at Glannorreth and great quantities of Iron and there and else-where cast Ordinance make Muskets heads for Pikes Skeanes and other weapons and farther saith that the greatest part of the nine thousand Irish Souldiers which the Earle of Strafford had at Nockvargas in Ireland and there exercised and trayned a long time are the most expert Commanders Leaders and Officers amongst the Rebels Thomas Ceely Maior Madame I Shall not adventure to write unto your Majestie with freedome but by expresses or till such time as I have a cipher which I beseech your Majestie to vouchsafe me At this time therefore I shall onely let your Majestie know where the humblest and most faithfull servant you have in the world is Here at Middleborough where I shall remaine in the privatest way I can till I receive instructions how to serve the King and your Majesty in these parts If the King betake himselfe to a safe place where he may avow and protect his servants from rage I meane and violence for from Justice I will never implore it I shall then live in impatience and in misery till I waite upon you But if after all he hath done of late he shall betake himselfe to the easiest and complyantest wayes of accommodation I am confident that then I shall serve him more by my absence then by all my industry and it will be a comfort to me in all calamities if I cannot serve you by my actions that I may doe it in some kinde by my sufferings for your sake having I protest to God no measure of happinesse or misfortune in this world but what I derive from your Majesties value of my affection and fidelity Middleborough the 21. of Ianuary 1641. FINIS His Majestie not charged with intention of any force Mr. Iermins esescape by his Majesties warrant Accusation of the Lo. Kimbolton c. Tumultuous numbers To the first Int.
from the Parliament and to make them serviceable to the ends and aimes of those who would destroy them Therefore wee desire the Kingdome to take notice of this last most desperate and mischievous Plott of the malignant partie that is acted and prosecuted in many parts of the Kingdom under plausible Notions of stirring them up to a care of preserving the Kings Prerogative maintaining the Discipline of the Church upholding and continuing the reverence and solemnitie of Gods Service incouraging of Learning And upon these grounds divers mutinous Petitions have been framed in London Kent and other Counties and sundry of his Majesties Subjects have been sollicited to declare themselves for the King against the Parliament and many false and foule aspersions have been cast upon our proceedings as if wee had been not onely negligent but averse in these points whereas wee desire nothing more then to maintaine the puritie and power of Religion and to Honour the King in all His just Prerogatives and for encouragement and advancement of pietie and learning wee have very earnestly endeavoured and still doe to the uttermost of our Power that all Parishes may have learned pious and sufficient Preachers and all such Preachers competent Livings Many other Bills and Propositions are in preparation for the Kings Profit and Honour the peoples safetie and prosperitie In the proceedings whereof wee are much hindred by His Majesties absence from the Parliament which is altogether contrary to the use of his Predecessors and the Priviledges of Parliament whereby ou● time is consumed by a multitude of unnecessary Messages and our innocency wounded by causelesse and sharpe invectives Yet wee doubt not but wee shall overcome all this at last if the people suffer not themselves to be deluded with false and specious shewes and so drawne to betray us to their owne undoing who have ever been willing to hazard the undoing of our selves that they might not be betraid by our neglect of the trust reposed in us but if it were possible they should prevaile herein yet wee would not fai●e through Gods grace still to persist in our duties and to looke beyond our owne lives estates and advantages as those who thinke nothing worth the enjoying without the libertie peace and safetie of the Kingdom not any thing too good to be hazarded in discharge of our Consciences for the obtaining of it And shall alwayes repose our selves upon the Protection of Almightie God which wee are confident shall never be wanting to us while wee seeke his glory as wee have found it hitherto wonderfully going along with us in all our proceedings IT is his Majesties pleasure that you forthwith Print in very good Paper and send unto me for his Majesties Service fortie Copies of the Proclamation inclosed leaving a convenient space for his Majestie to signe above and to affix the Privie Signet underneath And his Majesties expresse Command is that you Print not above the said number of fortie Copies and forbeare to make any further publication of them till his pleasure be further signified for which this shall be your Warrant Whitehall 2. Ianuary 1641. Edw. Nicholas For His Majesties Printer The Examination of Colonell Goring taken June 19. 1641. HE saith That in Lent last as he remembers about the middle of it Sir John Suckling came to him on Sonday morning as he was in his bed And this Examinate conceiving he had come to him about some businesse of money that was between them and thereupon falling upon that discourse Sir John Suckling told him he was then come about another businesse which was to acquaint him That there was a purpose of bringing the Army to London And that my Lord of New-castle was to be Generall and he this Examinate Lievtenant Generall if he would accept of it And further said That he should hear more of this businesse at Court to which this Examinate answered only this Well then I will go to the Court which was all that passed between them at that time to the best of this Examinates remembrance To the second He cannot depose To the third He saith That as he was coming in his Coach in the street out of the Covent-Garden into St Martins Lane he met there Mr Henry Jermyn who was likewise in a Coach and seeing this Examinate sent his Foot-man to him desiring him to follow him because he would speak with him which this Examinate did And Mr Jermyn going a little further alighted and went into a house to which house as this examinate was but yesterday in formed Sir John Suckling did then usually resort and thither this Examinate followed him and coming after him to the top of the Seayr●s Mr Jermyn said to him He had somewhat to say to him concerning the Army but that this was no fit place to speak of it and desired him to meet him that evening at the Court on the Queens side which this Examinate accordingly did and meeting Mr Jermyn in the Queens drawing Chamber he was there told by him That the Queen would speak with him and thereupon Mr Jermyn brought him into the Queens Bed-chamber But before this Examinate could enter into any discourse with the Queen the King came in and then this Examinate did withdraw and went away for that time but returned again the same night and met Mr Jermyn again on the Queens side who told him that he must necessarily meet with some Officers of the Army to hear some Propositions concerning the Army The next day being Monday this Examinate came again to the Court in the after-noon and went into the Queens drawing-Chamber ●here Her Majesty then was who was pleased to tell him that the King would speak with him and bade him repair to the room within the Gallery into which Room the King soon after came and His Majesty asked him if he was engaged in any Cabale concerning the Army to which he answered That he was not whereupon His Majesty replyed I command you then to joyn your self with Peircy and some others whom you will finde with him And His Majesty likewise said I have a desire to put my Army into a good posture and am advised unto it by my Lord of Bristoll which was the effect of what passed between the King and this Examinate at that time This Examinate meeting afterwards with Mr Jermyn Mr Jermyn told him that they were to meet that evening at nine of the Clock with Mr Peircy and some others at Mr Peircyes Chamber and accordingly Mr Jermyn and he went thither together and there found Mr Peircy himself Mr Wilmot Mr Ashburnham Mr Pollard Mr Oneal and Sir John Bartley Mr Peircy then in the first place tendered an Oath to this Examinate and Mr Jermyn the rest saying they had taken that Oath already this Oath was prepared in writing and was to this effect That they should neither directly nor indirectly disclose any thing of that which should be then said unto them nor think themselves
absolved from the secrecy enjoyned by this Oath by any other Oath which should be afterwards taken by them They having taken the Oath Mr Peircy declared That they were were resolved not to admit of any body else into their Councells And Mr Jermyn and this Examinate moved that Sir John Suckling might be received amongst them which being opposed by the rest after some debate it was laid aside And some speech there was of Sir Iohn Suckling his being employed in the Army but how it was agreed upon this Examinate doth not remember After this Mr Piercy made his Propositions which he read out of a paper which were to this effect That the Army should presently be put into a posture to serve the King and then should send up a Declaration to the Parliament of these particulars viz. That nothing should be done in Parliament contrary to any former Act of Parliament which was explayned That Bishops should be maintained in their Votes and Functions And the Kings Revenue be established From these Propositions none of Mr Percyes Company did declare themselves to dissent Then came into consideration if the Army should not immediately be brought to London which as this Examinate remembers was first propounded by Mr Jermyn and also the making sure of the Tower These things this Examinate did urge to shew the vanity and danger of the other Propositions without undertaking this In the conclusion this Examinate did protest against his having any thing to do in either designe for the proof of which he appeals to the consciences of them that were present and so parted with them About this businesse this Examinate saith That they had two meetings and cannot distinguish what passed at the one and what at the other but the result of all was as he formerly declared further then which he cannot depose To the fourth Int. He can say no more then he hath already said To the fifth Int. He saith That the very day that Sir Iohn Suckling first moved this unto him he gave some touch of it to my Lord Dungarvan and the day after his second meeting at Mr Peircyes Chamber he discovered it to my Lord of Newport and defined him to bring him to some other Lords such as might be likeliest to prevent all mischief And accordingly the next day my Lord of Newport brought him to my Lord of Bedford my Lord Say and my Lord Mandevill to whom he imparted the main of the businesse but not the particulars in regard of his Oath and desired them to make use of it as they should see cause for the safety of the Common-wealth but not to produce him nor name any person except there were a necessity for it He further saith That he did at the same time make a Protestation unto those Lords of his fidelity unto the Common-wealth and of his readinesse to run all hazards for it George Goring Master PERCIES LETTER written to the Earle of NORTHUMBERLAND Iune 14th 1641. WHat with my own innocency and the violence I heare is against me I finde my selfe much distracted I will not ask your councell because it may bring prejudice upon you but I will with all faithfulnesse and truth tell you what my part hath been that at least I may be cleered by you whatsoever becomes of me When there was 50000 pound designed by the Parliament for the English Army there was as I take it a sudden demand made by the Scots at the same time of 25000 pound of which there was but 15000 pound ready this they pressed with so much necessity as the Parliament after an Order made did think it fit for them to deduct 10000 pound out of the fifty formerly granted upon which the souldiers in our house were more scandalized amongst which I was one and sitting by Wilmott and Ashburnham Wilmott stood up and told them if such papers as that of the Scots would procure monies he doubted not but the Officers of the English Army might easily do the like but the first order was reversed notwithstanding and the 10000 pound give to the Scots this was the cause of many discourses of dislike amongst us and came to this purpose that they were disobliged by the Parliament and not by the King this being said often one to another we did resolve that is Wilmott Ashburnham Pollard Oneale and my selfe to make some expression of serving the King in all things he would command us that were honourable for him and us being likewise agreeable to the fundamentall lawes of the kingdome that so farre we should live and dye with him This was agreed upon by us not having any communication with others that I am coupled now withall and further by their joynt consent I was to tell his Majesty thus much from them but withall I was to order the matter so as that the King might apprehend this as a great service done unto him at this time when his affaires were in so ill a condition and they were most confident that they could ingage the whole Army thus farre but farther they would undertake nothing because they would neither infringe the liberties of the Subject or destroy the Lawes to which I and every one consented and having their sence I drew the Heads up in a paper to which they all approved when I read it and then we did by an oath promise to one another to be constant and secret in all this and did all of us take that oath together Well Sirs I must now be informed what your particular desires are that so I may be the better able to serve you which they were pleased to do and I did very faithfully serve them therein as farre as I could this is the truth and all the truth upon my soule In particular discourses after that we did fall upon the petitioning the King and Parliament for money there being so great arreares due to us and so much delayes made in the procuring of them but that was never done The preserving of Bishops functions and votes The not disbanding of the Irish Army untill the Scots were disbanded too The endeavouring to settle his revenew to that proportion it was formerly and it was resolved by us all if the King should require our assistance in these things that as farre as we could we might contribute thereunto without breaking the Lawes of the kingdome and in case the King should deny these things being put to them we would not fire from him All these persons did act and concurre in this as well as I. This being all imparted to the King by me from them I perceived he had been treated with by others concerning something of our Army which did not agree with what we proposed but enclined a way more high and sharpe not having limits either of Honour or Law I told the King he might be pleased to consider with himselfe which way it was fit for him to hearken unto For us we were resolved not to depart from our
To the seventh Interogatory That when he brought the Letter from the Army he met vvith Master Davenant vvho told him it vvas a matter of greater consequence then he imagined and thereupon brought him to Master Henry Iermyn and Master Iermyn told him he heard he brought such a Letter and asked to see a copy of it vvhich this Deponent did shevv unto him and Master Iermyn asked if he might not shevv it to the Queen and offered to bring this Deponent to her vvhich he excused himself of lest he should have anticipated my Lord Generall from shevving the Letter first himself To the eighth Interogatory That after he had brought up that Letter he staid some 8 or 9 dayes in London before he returned dovvn to the Army To the ninth Interogatory That Sergeant Major VVillis told him most of the noble Gentlemen in England would shevv themselves for the Army And that the French that vvere about London vvould receive Commanders from them to joyn vvith them And besides that there vvould a thousand horse likevvise be raised to come to their assistance vvhich horse at last he confessed vvere to be found by the Clergy To the tenth Interogatory That Sergeant Major Willis said moreover that the Army vvould be very vvell kept together for that the Prince vvas to be brought thither vvhich vvould confirm their affections vvhich this Deponent did declare at Burrovvbrig unto the Officers and doth beleeve Willis did the like and V 〈…〉 llis told them also that if my Lord of Nevvcastle vvas their Generall he vvould feast them in Nottinghamshire and vvould not use them roughly but that they should be governed by a Councell of vvar To the eleventh Inter That both Serjeant Major Willis and this Deponent did perswade the Officers at that meeting to write a Letter to Colonell Goring which was to let him know that they would heartily embrace him to be their Lievtenant Generall if it was his Majesties pleasure to send him downe which Letter was subscribed by Colonell Fielding and Colonell Vavasour and divers others and was by him brought to London upon Monday where not finding Colonell Goring ●he delivered it to Sir Iohn Sucklin who carried it to the King and afterwards brought him to kisse the King and Queenes hand and within a day or two returned the Letter to him againe which Letter this Deponent the Saturday after carried downe himselfe to Colonell Goring to Portsmouth To the 12 Inter That there was likewise a Letter written to Mr. Endimion Porter assigned by Colonell William Vavasour and Colonell Fielding which was to this effect to desire him to informe his Majestie that the Army was very faithfull to him and no doubt need be made by his Majestie concerning their proceedings This Letter Sir Iohn Sucklin would not have to be delivered but took it himselfe for that he said Mr. Porter knew nothing of the Kings intentions To the 14 Inter That when he came to Portsmouth Colonell Goring shewed him the strength of that place and told him that if there should bee any mutiny in London the Queene meant to come downe thither for her safetie and that she had sent him downe money to fortifie it To the 15 Inter That what he learned from Serjeant Major Willis he got from him by degrees as he urged it from him by way of discourse and that Willis Sir Iohn Sucklin and Mr. Davenant did all of them give him great charge to keep things secret and to be very carefull to whom he communicated any thing which he accordingly observed for he dealt with the Officers there severally Iames Chudleigh This Examination taken in the presence of Vs Essex P. Howard Warwick W. Howard Die Martis 18 Maii. The second Examination of Cap. Chudleigh To the 31. THat at the meeting at Burrowbrig he declared unto the Officers some thing out of a paper which he read and told them that hee had received it from Mr. Iermyn and that Mr. Iermyn had received it from the King And hee said likewise that some others about the King were acquainted with it and named Mr. Endiuion Porter to whom he thought the King had declared in this business● To the 34. That Mr. Iermyn asked him if hee thought the Army would stick to their Officers in case the King and Parliament should not agree or words to that effect He saith further that he had set downe all those things in writing which hee declared to the Officers at Burrowbrig and thought to have sent it downe to them but upon better consideration hee went himselfe and read it to them out of that paper but severally and not to them all together And particularly that he read it to Lievtenant Colonell Ballard and to Lievtenant Colonall Lunsford That he did not acquaint them all with it and the reason why he did not was because he conceived some were of more judgement than others and fitter to be trusted with matters of secrecie Iames Chudleigh Essex W. Say and Seale Warwick Howard The Examination of Thomas Ballard Lievtenant Colonell to the Lord Grandison taken May 18. 1641. To the 19. THat he did meet at Burrowbridge being sent to by Captain Chidley and none other but he found there Serjeant Major Willis and divers other Officers of the Army this was sometime in Aprill last as he remembreth That Mr. Chidley did propound to him certaine propositions which as he affirmed hee did receive from Mr. Henry Iermyn and from another great man which he might not name Captaine Chidley further said that M. Iermyn told him that he received those propositions from the King But Chidley told him further that when he kissed the Kings hand his Majestie said nothing to him of any such propositions The first proposition was That he should not acquaint either Sir Iacob Ashely or Sir Iohn Conyers with any thing of this designe The second that if there were occasion the Army should remove their Quarters into Nottingham-shire where the Prince and the Earle of New-Castle should meet them with a thousand Horse and all the French that were in London should bee mounted and likewise meet them These propositions were read by Captaine Chidley out of a paper which hee said he had written himselfe thinking to have sent them downe but upon better consideration hee brought them downe himselfe That they likewise should desire that Colonell Gering should be the Lievtenant-Generall to the Army There was likewise offered a Paper to this effect as hee was then told That if the King would send Colonell Goring to be Lievtenant-Generall they would accept of him which Paper he this Examinant refused to read or to set his hand to it but heard that divers others signed it He further saith that there was no other Paper propounded to him to be signed nor to any other to his knowledge Hee further saith that this was not delivered to the Officers in publique but severally He likewise saith That presently after Colonell Vavasour said publikely