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B20551 A discourse concerning excommunication. By THomas Comber DD. Precentor of York. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1684 (1684) Wing C5459 99,055 127

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cap._n 11._o §._o 1._o and_o so_o do_v our_o reform_a bishop_n wherefore_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v how_o the_o papal_a encroachment_n be_v tolerate_v or_o restrain_v because_o excommunication_n be_v right_o manage_v before_o they_o be_v in_o be_v and_o be_v now_o after_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o now_o a_o brief_a review_n of_o these_o objection_n will_v suffice●y_v wherefore_o we_o will_v here_o represent_v they_o all_o together_o he_o allege_v many_o particular_n to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o eadmerus_n say_v concern_v william_n the_o conqueror_n that_o he_o will_v not_o suffer_v any_o of_o his_o baron_n or_o minister_n to_o be_v prosecute_v or_o excommunicate_v for_o incest_n adultery_n or_o any_o other_o capital_a crime_n 197._o crime_n seld._n de_fw-fr synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 197._o which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o odious_a representation_n of_o a_o monk_n who_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o controversy_n between_o anselm_n and_o the_o crown_n for_o eadmerus_n 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6_o edvard_n 6._o cap._n 4._o vide_fw-la seld._n ut_fw-la supr_fw-la pag._n 173._o which_o decree_v excommunication_n for_o strike_v in_o the_o church_n or_o church-yard_n but_o this_o be_v not_o only_o a_o law_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n consent_n but_o also_o it_o relate_v to_o a_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o confirmation_n of_o divers_a ancient_a canon_n which_o they_o suppose_v will_v be_v better_o observe_v if_o the_o whole_a parliament_n do_v assent_v to_o they_o and_o pass_v they_o into_o a_o secular_a law_n as_o be_v often_o do_v by_o the_o primitive_a emperor_n in_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o by_o the_o french_a king_n in_o the_o capitular_o but_o neither_o they_o nor_o our_o parliament_n ever_o intend_v hereby_o to_o take_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o the_o clergy_n power_n or_o to_o assume_v this_o power_n into_o their_o own_o hand_n yea_o the_o statute_n cite_v express_o say_v the_o ordinary_a shall_v issue_v out_o the_o sentence_n again_o 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and_o further_o we_o may_v observe_v god_n do_v this_o as_o a_o mark_n of_o public_a disgrace_n to_o shame_v she_o into_o repentance_n and_o warn_v other_o whence_o that_o phrase_n if_o her_o father_n have_v spit_v in_o her_o face_n ver_fw-la 14._o another_o example_n of_o this_o kind_n and_o more_o plain_a we_o have_v in_o king_n uzziah_n who_o will_v in_o the_o pride_n of_o his_o heart_n officiate_v as_o a_o priest_n but_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o his_o brethren_n interdict_v he_o from_o come_v into_o the_o sanctuary_n as_o one_o that_o have_v apostatise_v from_o god_n law_n 〈◊〉_d law_n 2_o paral._n xxvi_o 18._o lxx_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o he_o not_o value_v the_o interdict_v be_v immediate_o smite_v by_o the_o lord_n with_o leprosy_n and_o so_o force_v to_o go_v hasty_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o he_o remain_v separate_v from_o all_o civil_a society_n and_o from_o the_o public_a worship_n also_o until_o the_o day_n of_o his_o death_n 〈◊〉_d death_n ver._n 21._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o text_n express_o mention_n his_o dwelling_n in_o a_o several_a house_n and_o his_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n which_o be_v a_o clear_a sign_n it_o be_v a_o divine_o inflict_v excommunication_n and_o it_o be_v most_o fit_a to_o be_v only_o do_v by_o god_n hand_n since_o it_o be_v execute_v on_o a_o king_n to_o this_o i_o may_v add_v the_o like_a plague_n inflict_v upon_o gehazi_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o lie_v by_o elisha_n who_o be_v god_n special_a messenger_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o his_o presence_n signify_v a_o exclusion_n from_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o society_n of_o man_n 2_o king_n v._n 27._o and_o chap._n seven_o ver_fw-la 3._o the_o jewish_a doctor_n also_o affirm_v that_o david_n be_v smite_v with_o leprosy_n for_o his_o great_a sin_n and_o that_o he_o be_v thereby_o uncapable_a of_o come_v into_o the_o congregation_n which_o occasion_v that_o 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unlawful_a marriage_n warn_v all_o not_o to_o come_v into_o his_o house_n till_o he_o do_v repent_v but_o the_o king_n will_v not_o forbear_v visit_v this_o earl_n whereupon_o the_o bishop_n foretell_v the_o king_n that_o if_o he_o persist_v to_o converse_v with_o this_o excommunicate_a person_n he_o will_v be_v slay_v in_o that_o very_a house_n which_z according_o come_v to_o pass_v for_o that_o very_a earl_n and_o his_o complice_n slay_v sigebert_n there_o 22._o there_o an._n 638._o vel_fw-la an._n 660._o bedae_fw-la histor_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 22._o which_o remarkable_a judgement_n no_o doubt_n make_v the_o sentence_n of_o our_o venerable_a bishop_n to_o be_v much_o dread_v in_o those_o day_n and_o for_o that_o reason_n our_o old_a canon_n decree_v that_o a_o bishop_n shall_v not_o rash_o excommunicate_v any_o man_n no_o not_o though_o there_o be_v never_o so_o just_a a_o cause_n 263._o cause_n an._n 750._o egber_n excerpta_fw-la can._n 48._o spelm._n pag._n 263._o because_o of_o the_o dreadful_a consequence_n then_o believe_v to_o follow_v upon_o this_o censure_n but_o to_o return_v to_o foreign_a country_n in_o this_o age_n be_v make_v those_o ancient_a law_n of_o the_o almain_n wherein_o beside_o the_o temporal_a penalty_n for_o sacrilege_n it_o be_v declare_v the_o person_n so_o offend_v shall_v incur_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o excommunication_n of_o holy_a church_n 57_o church_n an._n 630._o leges_fw-la alem._n cap._n 1._o capital_a tom._n i._o pag._n 57_o so_o that_o they_o do_v not_o think_v secular_a penalty_n make_v this_o useless_a in_o a_o christian_a commonwealth_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o temporal_a law_n now_o begin_v to_o decree_v severe_a punishment_n to_o be_v inflict_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n upon_o those_o who_o despise_v the_o authority_n of_o church_n censure_n a_o memorable_a proof_n of_o which_o we_o have_v in_o the_o constitution_n make_v by_o king_n pepin_n father_n to_o charles_n the_o great_a with_o the_o advice_n of_o his_o bishop_n and_o baron_n wherein_o they_o ordain_v that_o whoever_o witting_o communicate_v with_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n he_o shall_v be_v excommunicate_v also_o and_o that_o all_o may_v know_v the_o nature_n of_o this_o excommunication_n they_o declare_v he_o who_o be_v thus_o under_o censure_n must_v not_o come_v into_o the_o church_n nor_o eat_v or_o drink_v with_o any_o christian_a none_o may_v receive_v any_o gift_n from_o he_o or_o give_v he_o a_o kiss_n or_o join_v in_o prayer_n with_o he_o nor_o salute_v he_o till_o he_o be_v reconcile_v to_o his_o own_o bishop_n and_o if_o any_o think_v that_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v unjust_o he_o may_v complain_v to_o the_o metropolitan_a and_o have_v his_o cause_n try_v by_o the_o canon_n but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o must_v lie_v under_o his_o sentence_n and_o if_o any_o despise_v all_o this_o so_o that_o the_o bishop_n can_v amend_v he_o than_o he_o shall_v be_v condemn_v to_o banishment_n by_o the_o 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pretend_v but_o rather_o to_o strengthen_v their_o divine_a right_n by_o a_o civil_a sanction_n for_o these_o very_a capitular_o do_v still_o own_o that_o the_o bishop_n have_v authority_n from_o god_n to_o excommunicate_v which_o one_o instance_n out_o of_o very_a many_o there_o to_o be_v find_v shall_v suffice_v to_o prove_v the_o laity_n must_v know_v that_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o loose_v be_v by_o the_o lord_n confer_v on_o the_o priest_n and_o therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o obey_v their_o admonition_n and_o humble_o to_o submit_v to_o their_o excommunication_n 1161._o excommunication_n addit_fw-la 3._o lud._n cap._n 23._o capit._fw-la tom._n i._n pag._n 1161._o i_o cite_v this_o the_o rather_o because_o mr._n selden_n have_v the_o confidence_n to_o quote_v this_o very_a place_n in_o his_o margin_n as_o a_o proof_n that_o the_o french_a prince_n do_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o order_n the_o matter_n of_o excommunication_n and_o penance_n 192._o penance_n seld._n de_fw-fr synedrijs_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o p._n 192._o whereas_o this_o as_o well_o as_o his_o other_o proof_n do_v only_o show_v that_o those_o prince_n believe_v the_o bishop_n have_v a_o divine_a right_o to_o excommunicate_v and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n to_o compel_v the_o refractory_a to_o submit_v to_o their_o censure_n nor_o do_v those_o prince_n ever_o take_v this_o power_n out_o of_o the_o bishop_n hand_n but_o rather_o fix_v it_o there_o where_o god_n have_v place_v it_o whence_o it_o be_v that_o they_o make_v these_o law_n if_o any_o layman_n of_o high_a or_o low_a degree_n have_v sin_v and_o be_v call_v by_o his_o bishop_n authority_n refuse_v to_o submit_v to_o penitence_n and_o amendment_n he_o shall_v be_v so_o long_o banish_v from_o the_o church_n and_o separate_v from_o the_o company_n of_o all_o good_a christian_n as_o he_o forbear_v to_o amend_v 936._o amend_v capitul_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 88_o tom._n i._o p._n 936._o and_o again_o he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v shall_v be_v exclude_v not_o only_o from_o eat_v and_o discourse_v with_o the_o clergy_n but_o also_o from_o eat_v or_o talk_v with_o any_o of_o the_o people_n 946._o people_n capitul_n l._n 6._o cap._n 142._o pag._n 946._o also_o it_o be_v ordain_v that_o the_o christian_n shall_v not_o light_o esteem_v the_o excommunication_n of_o their_o clergy_n for_o even_o this_o contempt_n be_v a_o just_a cause_n of_o excommunication_n 964._o excommunication_n ibid._n cap._n 248._o pag._n 964._o and_o in_o another_o place_n that_o no_o excommunicate_a person_n shall_v be_v a_o godfather_n for_o those_o who_o by_o god_n law_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o canon_n be_v turn_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o out_o of_o the_o camp_n lest_o they_o bring_v a_o curse_n on_o the_o people_n these_o be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v keep_v off_o from_o these_o sacred_a duty_n 1135._o duty_n capitul_n additam_fw-la ii_o cap._n 1._o p._n 1135._o where_o beside_o the_o express_a and_o plain_a affirmation_n that_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v by_o god_n law_n to_o be_v exclude_v the_o church_n we_o see_v that_o from_o the_o history_n of_o achan_n bring_v a_o curse_n on_o the_o army_n of_o israel_n they_o will_v not_o suffer_v the_o excommunicate_a to_o bear_v arm_n in_o their_o camp_n which_o be_v also_o intimate_v in_o those_o law_n which_o cite_v that_o place_n of_o joshuah_n there_o be_v a_o anathema_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o thou_o therefore_o thou_o can_v not_o stand_v before_o thy_o enemy_n 213._o enemy_n an._n 869._o car._n calv_n cap._n 20._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 213._o and_o it_o be_v most_o clear_a by_o these_o capitular_o that_o the_o king_n authority_n do_v follow_v the_o bishop_n act_n and_o the_o temporal_a justice_n do_v punish_v he_o that_o be_v stubborn_a and_o refractory_a and_o will_v not_o obey_v the_o bishop_n sentence_n nor_o be_v bring_v to_o repentance_n by_o his_o spiritual_a censure_n thus_o lhotharius_fw-la ordain_v that_o a_o obstinate_a person_n who_o be_v excommunicate_v shall_v be_v imprison_v by_o the_o high-sheriff_n or_o the_o count_n 323._o count_n an._n 824._o capit_fw-la lhothar_n cap._n 15._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 323._o and_o he_o that_o infringe_n the_o liberty_n of_o a_o church_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o notice_n to_o be_v give_v of_o it_o to_o other_o bishop_n and_o the_o high-sheriff_n be_v to_o make_v he_o pay_v his_o fine_a and_o if_o he_o despise_v all_o this_o be_v judge_v by_o law_n he_o be_v to_o be_v behead_v and_o his_o good_n confiscate_v 363._o confiscate_v an._n 367._o capit._fw-la lud._n 2._o cap._n 8._o ibid._n pag._n 363._o yea_o those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o fornication_n and_o do_v not_o submit_v be_v to_o be_v banish_v the_o kingdom_n and_o such_o as_o retain_v they_o be_v think_v to_o offend_v against_o god_n and_o the_o sacred_a authority_n yea_o and_o against_o the_o common_a interest_n of_o christianity_n 5._o
great_a wonder_n if_o this_o custom_n shall_v prove_v that_o bishop_n have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o loose_v by_o divine_a right_n since_o it_o be_v so_o general_o believe_v they_o have_v this_o right_n in_o that_o age_n wherein_o it_o be_v say_v this_o custom_n be_v in_o use_n wherefore_o it_o must_v be_v observe_v first_o that_o mr._n selden_n confess_v it_o be_v a_o pagan_a rite_n mention_v in_o herodotus_n and_o diodorus_n siculus_n for_o king_n to_o give_v a_o sort_n of_o absolution_n to_o involuntary_a slayer_n of_o man_n by_o admit_v they_o to_o their_o table_n and_o this_o custom_n be_v in_o france_n before_o the_o king_n become_v christian_a as_o seem_v probable_a by_o that_o example_n of_o king_n guntram_n receive_v a_o bishop_n to_o his_o favour_n that_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o suspicion_n of_o treason_n upon_o which_o he_o be_v without_o any_o judgement_n of_o a_o synod_n restore_v to_o his_o bishopric_n 16._o bishopric_n circa_n an._n 580._o greg._n turon_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 19_o &_o lib._n 7._o cap._n 16._o soon_o after_o those_o king_n have_v forsake_v paganism_n so_o that_o it_o be_v probable_a enough_o those_o prince_n after_o their_o conversion_n may_v retain_v this_o barbarous_a custom_n and_o that_o whether_o the_o bishop_n will_v or_o no_o in_o which_o case_n there_o can_v no_o good_a argument_n be_v draw_v from_o a_o heathen_a custom_n obstinate_o retain_v by_o a_o people_n late_o barbarous_a to_o invalidate_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n but_o we_o need_v not_o fly_v to_o that_o refuge_n for_o these_o culpati_fw-la offender_n here_o mention_v be_v not_o all_o excommunicate_a person_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o treason_n to_o prove_v which_o we_o must_v observe_v that_o in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o toledo_n the_o bishop_n begin_v to_o pronounce_v most_o dreadful_a anathema_n against_o such_o as_o break_v their_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o rebel_v against_o their_o king_n 357._o king_n an._n 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prince_n will_v have_v take_v away_o again_o or_o limit_v so_o as_o they_o may_v not_o be_v a_o grievance_n to_o they_o and_o their_o subject_n but_o the_o power_n itself_o as_o christ_n give_v it_o no_o king_n ever_o attempt_v to_o take_v away_o and_o therefore_o these_o instance_n will_v not_o much_o concern_v my_o opinion_n who_o be_o plead_v only_o for_o the_o primitive_a sort_n of_o excommunication_n attend_v with_o those_o modern_a circumstance_n as_o it_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o england_n where_o it_o never_o do_v disturb_v the_o government_n but_o be_v rather_o very_o useful_a to_o it_o de_fw-fr marca_n have_v well_o observe_v there_o be_v a_o deep_a silence_n among_o the_o ancient_n about_o the_o church_n invade_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o prince_n for_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n only_o mind_v to_o keep_v up_o the_o canonical_a discipline_n 1._o discipline_n de_fw-fr marca_n de_fw-fr concordia_fw-la tom._n i._o l._n 4._o
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satisfy_v till_o the_o same_o monk_n have_v absolve_v he_o 36._o he_o idem_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 171._o è_fw-la theodoret._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 36._o and_o hence_o he_o infer_v that_o other_o beside_o bishop_n may_v excommunicate_v without_o any_o formal_a process_n as_o the_o custom_n be_v among_o the_o latter_a jew_n i_o reply_v this_o bold_a fact_n be_v a_o single_a instance_n be_v no_o argument_n that_o such_o a_o thing_n may_v lawful_o be_v do_v yea_o the_o patriarch_n opinion_n be_v that_o the_o emperor_n need_v no_o absolution_n from_o so_o rash_a a_o sentence_n and_o it_o be_v in_o compliance_n with_o the_o emperor_n fear_n that_o this_o absolution_n be_v procure_v yet_o it_o be_v not_o improbable_a this_o monk_n be_v in_o priest_n order_n because_o theodosius_n desire_v the_o patriarch_n to_o give_v he_o licence_n to_o loose_v the_o bond_n who_o have_v lay_v it_o on_o however_o if_o the_o monk_n zeal_n transport_v he_o beyond_o the_o bound_n of_o his_o duty_n that_o be_v no_o ground_n of_o argument_n nor_o precedent_n for_o we_o to_o follow_v he_o also_o object_n the_o say_n of_o s._n hierom_n upon_o that_o place_n of_o s._n matthew_n xuj_o 19_o concern_v the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v which_o word_n s._n hierom_n say_v some_o bishop_n and_o priest_n not_o understanding_n pharisaical_o think_v they_o can_v condemn_v the_o innocent_a or_o absolve_v the_o guilty_a whereas_o before_o god_n the_o life_n of_o the_o criminal_a be_v consider_v rather_o than_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o he_o go_v on_o to_o compare_v this_o with_o the_o office_n of_o the_o levitical_a priest_n who_o do_v not_o make_v the_o leprous_a clean_a or_o unclean_a but_o discern_v and_o declare_v who_o be_v so_o and_o say_v in_o like_a manner_n the_o priest_n and_o bishop_n now_o do_v not_o by_o bind_v or_o loose_v make_v man_n guilty_a or_o innocent_a but_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n discern_v and_o declare_v who_o be_v real_o so_o 16._o so_o seld._n syn._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o pag._n 285._o ex_fw-la hieron_n com._n in_o matth._n 16._o and_o mr._n selden_n think_v this_o argue_v that_o s._n hierom_n do_v not_o think_v christ_n have_v give_v the_o clergy_n such_o a_o jurisdiction_n as_o they_o claim_v from_o these_o word_n i_o answer_v that_o we_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o any_o such_o power_n as_o to_o condemn_v the_o innocent_a or_o clear_a the_o guilty_a but_o grant_v that_o god_n do_v not_o always_o follow_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n which_o may_v be_v impose_v on_o sometime_o 4._o sometime_o petr._n lomb._n send_v lib._n 4._o and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o loose_v be_v not_o grant_v absolute_o but_o upon_o condition_n of_o the_o party_n repentance_n 15._o repentance_n d._n basil_n reg_fw-la brev_n qu._n 15._o but_o we_o do_v affirm_v that_o when_o the_o party_n be_v real_o guilty_a and_o the_o priest_n deelares_fw-la he_o to_o be_v so_o he_o be_v not_o only_o to_o be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o christian_a assembly_n but_o as_o s._n hierom_n cite_v before_o say_v he_o be_v in_o a_o sort_n judge_v before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o we_o have_v prove_v above_o that_o s._n hierom_n do_v hold_v the_o clergy_n have_v this_o power_n from_o christ_n but_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o the_o servant_n who_o act_n by_o commission_n be_v oblige_v to_o those_o condition_n which_o their_o master_n bind_v himself_o to_o neither_o angel_n nor_o archangel_n nor_o the_o lord_n himself_o will_v pardon_v any_o say_v s._n ambrose_n but_o the_o penitent_a august_n penitent_a ambros_n ep._n 28._o ad_fw-la theodos_fw-la august_n we_o do_v not_o vindicate_v the_o abuse_n of_o this_o power_n nor_o defend_v any_o that_o use_v it_o amiss_o but_o only_o we_o affirm_v it_o be_v a_o very_a dreadful●-thing_n for_o the_o guilty_a to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o a_o very_a comfortable_a thing_n for_o the_o penitent_a to_o be_v absolve_v by_o he_o who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o judge_v grant_v by_o christ_n himself_o and_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o fear_v his_o own_o estate_n when_o the_o ambassador_n and_o substitute_n of_o christ_n do_v judge_v he_o unworthy_a of_o the_o christian_a communion_n lest_o as_o s._n chrysostom_n speak_v heaven_n shall_v follow_v earth_n and_o lest_o the_o lord_n shall_v ratify_v above_o what_o the_o servant_n have_v do_v below_o i_o be_o sure_a this_o great_a truth_n firm_o believe_v and_o well_o consider_v will_v be_v a_o powerful_a mean_n to_o bring_v sinner_n to_o repentance_n whereas_o the_o teach_a man_n to_o despise_v this_o sentence_n not_o only_o deceive_v man_n but_o harden_v they_o to_o their_o destruction_n i_o find_v no_o more_o objection_n relate_v to_o ancient_a time_n and_o mr._n selden_n proceed_v from_o thence_o to_o affirm_v that_o the_o french_a emperor_n in_o the_o west_n do_v order_n limit_z permit_v or_o restrain_v excommunication_n as_o those_o in_o the_o east_n have_v do_v but_o we_o have_v full_o answer_v all_o those_o quotation_n by_o which_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v this_o in_o our_o account_n of_o the_o capitular_o before_o where_o we_o have_v show_v there_o be_v nothing_o to_o make_v out_o mr._n selden'_v opinion_n there_o remain_v only_o two_o particular_n not_o consider_v before_o the_o first_o be_v that_o article_n of_o peace_n between_o the_o french_a and_o german_a prince_n an._n 860._o whereby_o it_o be_v agree_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o divers_a bishop_n that_o no_o offender_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v till_o the_o bishop_n according_a to_o the_o gospel_n precept_n have_v admonish_v he_o to_o repent_v and_o if_o he_o refuse_v this_o admonition_n complaint_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o the_o king_n or_o his_o officer_n to_o compel_v he_o to_o submit_v to_o penance_n and_o to_o amend_v and_o if_o this_o will_v not_o prevail_v than_o the_o offender_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o his_o soul_n health_n 192._o health_n seld._n synedr_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 192._o which_o law_n do_v suppose_v the_o bishop_n power_n of_o excommunication_n ground_v on_o s._n math._n xviii_o and_o since_o christ_n there_o direct_v all_o possible_a mean_n to_o be_v use_v to_o bring_v the_o sinner_n to_o repentance_n before_o he_o be_v put_v into_o the_o state_n of_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n i_o do_v not_o see_v but_o this_o law_n proceed_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n and_o no_o doubt_n in_o that_o age_n they_o do_v believe_v excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o dreadful_a thing_n since_o it_o be_v the_o high_a penalty_n and_o last_o remedy_n to_o be_v use_v so_o that_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n be_v not_o original_o in_o the_o bishop_n by_o the_o grant_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v so_o dreadful_a in_o its_o effect_n that_o all_o other_o way_n be_v first_o to_o be_v try_v towards_o offender_n yet_o withal_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o law_n well_o we_o shall_v see_v the_o civil_a authority_n be_v complain_v 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