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the_o prelate_n count_n and_o baron_n that_o the_o peer_n of_o the_o realm_n may_v not_o be_v judge_v but_o in_o parliament_n &_o per_fw-la lour_v piers_n and_o by_o their_o peer_n and_o after_o it_o follow_v that_o they_o may_v not_o lose_v their_o temporalty_n land_n good_n and_o chattel_n etc._n etc._n who_o be_v capable_a of_o lose_v their_o temporalty_n but_o the_o prelate_n therefore_o this_o law_n must_v respect_v they_o as_o well_o as_o other_o as_o far_o appear_v not_o only_o by_o the_o occasion_n but_o by_o the_o consequent_a of_o it_o for_o it_o follow_v n._n 8._o that_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n be_v admit_v into_o the_o king_n presence_n and_o to_o answer_v for_o himself_o in_o parlamentdevant_fw-fr les_fw-fr piers_n before_o his_o peer_n which_o the_o king_n grant_v so_o that_o the_o roll_n of_o parliament_n put_v this_o matter_n beyond_o contradiction_n in_o 21_o r._n ii_o thomas_n arundel_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n be_v impeach_v of_o high_a treason_n 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these_o 192._o the_o author_n of_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n assert_v one_o well_o know_v to_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n will_v have_v only_o look_v on_o as_o a_o temporary_a order_n of_o the_o house_n case_n but_o our_o great_a lawyer_n be_v of_o another_o opinion_n and_o a_o eminent_a lawyer_n still_o live_v urge_v this_o as_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n because_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o king_n in_o full_a parliament_n assent_v to_o it_o and_o he_o add_v that_o the_o word_n be_v both_o affirmative_a and_o negative_a they_o shall_v not_o be_v bind_v or_o charge_v to_o try_v any_o other_o than_o peer_n but_o be_v thereof_o discharge_v and_o that_o therein_o they_o declare_v it_o to_o be_v against_o law_n for_o they_o to_o exercise_v jurisdiction_n on_o those_o who_o be_v not_o their_o peer_n from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o since_o stratford_n and_o arundel_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n be_v allow_v to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n without_o impeachment_n from_o the_o commons_o they_o be_v look_v on_o as_o peer_n by_o the_o whole_a house_n the_o latter_a act_n the_o same_o author_n can_v deny_v to_o be_v a_o bind_a law_n but_o he_o have_v a_o strange_a fetch_n to_o avoid_v the_o force_n of_o it_o 193._o viz._n that_o this_o law_n be_v make_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o case_n of_o roger_n mortimer_n 4_o ed._n iii_o and_o not_o to_o the_o case_n of_o stratford_n then_o in_o agitation_n which_o be_v without_o all_o colour_n of_o reason_n for_o the_o case_n then_o be_v of_o a_o different_a nature_n viz._n about_o the_o peer_n try_v those_o who_o be_v not_o peer_n as_o sir_n simon_n bereford_n &c_n &c_n but_o here_o the_o case_n be_v whether_o peer_n shall_v be_v try_v by_o any_o other_o than_o their_o peer_n and_o the_o king_n grant_v they_o shall_v not_o now_o upon_o this_o stratford_n be_v allow_v to_o be_v try_v by_o his_o peer_n in_o parliament_n and_o therefore_o this_o trial_n upon_o these_o act_n be_v a_o invincible_a argument_n of_o the_o peerage_n of_o the_o bishop_n in_o 28_o h._n vi_o when_o william_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr pole_n duke_z of_o suffolk_z wave_v be_v try_v by_o his_o peer_n and_o submit_v to_o the_o king_n mercy_n 47._o the_o record_n say_v as_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n himself_o confess_v that_o viscount_n beaumond_n on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o lordsspiritualand_n temporal_a and_o by_o their_o advice_n assent_n and_o desire_n move_v the_o king_n that_o a_o protestation_n may_v be_v enter_v in_o the_o parlament-roll_n that_o this_o shall_v not_o be_v nor_o turn_v in_o prejudice_n nor_o derogation_n of_o they_o their_o heir_n ne_o of_o their_o successor_n in_o time_n come_v but_o that_o they_o may_v have_v and_o enjoy_v their_o liberty_n and_o freedom_n as_o large_o as_o ever_o their_o ancestor_n and_o predecessor_n have_v or_o enjoy_v they_o before_o this_o time_n which_o sir_n r._n cotton_n more_o brief_o express_v n._n 52._o that_o neither_o they_o nor_o their_o heir_n shall_v by_o this_o example_n be_v bar_v of_o their_o peerage_n the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n more_o full_o put_v in_o successor_n as_o well_o as_o heir_n for_o this_o protestation_n be_v make_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a as_o well_o as_o temporal_a but_o very_o unfair_o leave_v out_o the_o most_o material_a word_n in_o the_o record_n viz._n after_o freedom_n in_o case_n of_o their_o peerage_n and_o i_o appeal_v to_o the_o author_n himself_o whether_o these_o word_n be_v not_o in_o the_o record_n and_o with_o what_o ingenuity_n they_o be_v leave_v out_o i_o can_v understand_v i_o do_v not_o charge_v the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n himself_o with_o this_o but_o whosoever_o search_v the_o record_n for_o he_o have_v deal_v very_o unfaithful_o with_o he_o and_o i_o suppose_v if_o he_o have_v see_v this_o passage_n himself_o he_o will_v never_o have_v so_o peremptory_o deny_v the_o peerage_n of_o the_o bishop_n nor_o assert_v with_o so_o much_o assurance_n that_o they_o be_v only_o to_o be_v try_v by_o commoner_n and_o that_o it_o be_v always_o so_o and_o never_o otherwise_o 2._o suppose_v the_o bishop_n have_v be_v try_v by_o commoner_n out_o of_o parliament_n this_o do_v not_o take_v away_o their_o right_n of_o peerage_n in_o parliament_n for_o all_o our_o dispute_n be_v concern_v the_o right_n of_o their_o peerage_n in_o parliament_n and_o if_o that_o be_v allow_v we_o be_v not_o to_o dispute_v concern_v the_o difference_n that_o in_o some_o respect_n may_v arise_v by_o custom_n or_o practice_n of_o common_a law_n between_o peer_n by_o descent_n and_o peer_n by_o tenure_n in_o right_n of_o their_o barony_n and_o therefore_o the_o author_n of_o the_o peerage_n of_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a may_v have_v spare_v all_o the_o needless_a pain_n he_o take_v about_o this_o etc._n for_o we_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o they_o have_v a_o inheritable_a peerage_n but_o that_o they_o be_v peer_n in_o parliament_n have_v a_o right_a to_o sit_v and_o judge_v there_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o barony_n but_o from_o hence_o he_o undertake_v to_o prove_v that_o by_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la they_o can_v be_v judge_n of_o such_o who_o be_v ennoble_v in_o blood_n this_o come_v home_o to_o our_o present_a business_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v consider_v 1._o he_o say_v 4._o that_o he_o who_o have_v only_o a_o praedial_a or_o feudal_n and_o not_o personal_a peerage_n can_v have_v no_o jurisdiction_n but_o such_o as_o be_v suitable_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o his_o peerage_n and_o therefore_o can_v only_o extend_v to_o matter_n of_o property_n and_o possession_n and_o not_o to_o matter_n of_o blood_n but_o that_o this_o be_v a_o very_a trifle_n and_o ill-considered_a argument_n appear_v by_o this_o that_o he_o grant_v a_o lord_n keeper_n lord_n privy_a seal_n lord_n treasurer_n to_o be_v peer_n by_o their_o office_n for_o as_o he_o speak_v after_o regradation_n their_o peerage_n be_v end_v and_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o these_o may_v sit_v as_o judge_n in_o capital_a case_n although_o they_o be_v peer_n only_o by_o their_o office_n those_o that_o be_v peer_n in_o parliament_n have_v right_o to_o judge_v in_o all_o case_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o judicature_n of_o parliament_n 2._o he_o say_v that_o the_o reason_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la be_v 5._o that_o the_o judge_n and_o prisoner_n may_v be_v under_o the_o same_o circumstance_n but_o this_o kind_n of_o argue_v as_o well_o exclude_v a_o lord_n keeper_n who_o be_v no_o baron_n as_o a_o bishop_n and_o suppose_v that_o man_n capacity_n for_o judgement_n depend_v upon_o perfect_a equality_n of_o circumstance_n whereas_o knowledge_n and_o integrity_n go_v far_o towards_o constitute_v one_o that_o be_v a_o peer_n but_o in_o one_o respect_n a_o just_a
concilium_fw-la regni_fw-la but_o only_o show_v that_o their_o consent_n be_v require_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o that_o time_n and_o 23_o ed._n i._o the_o clause_n be_v more_o full_a ad_fw-la tract_n and._n ordinand_n &_o faciend_n the_o like_o 24_o ed._n i._n but_o in_o 27_o ed._n i._o the_o word_n be_v ad_fw-la faciend_n &_o consentiend_n 3._o the_o same_o argument_n will_v exclude_v the_o commons_o from_o any_o voice_n for_o in_o 23_o ed._n i._o the_o writ_n for_o choose_v knight_n and_o burgess_n run_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n ita_fw-la quod_fw-la dicti_fw-la milites_fw-la plenam_fw-la &_o sufficientem_fw-la potestatem_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la &_o commun_n '_o commit_v '_o predict_v '_o &_o dicti_fw-la cives_fw-la &_o burgenses_n pro_fw-la se_fw-la &_o communit_fw-la civet_fw-la '_o &_o burg_n '_o tunc_fw-la ibidem_fw-la habeant_fw-la ad_fw-la faciend_n '_o tunc_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-la communi_fw-la consilio_fw-la ordinabitur_fw-la in_o premissis_fw-la will_v any_o man_n be_v so_o unreasonable_a to_o infer_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o have_v no_o vote_n the_o same_o form_n be_v use_v 26_o ed._n i._o 30_o of_o the_o same_o in_o 5_o ed._n ii_o it_o be_v ad_fw-la consentiendum_fw-la etc._n etc._n 6_o ed._n ii_o it_o be_v ad_fw-la faciend_n quod_fw-la de_fw-la communi_fw-la consilio_fw-la contigerit_fw-la ordinari_fw-la 7_o ed._n ii_o ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiend_n and_o so_o it_o continue_v to_o the_o 26_o ed._n iii_o when_o first_o come_v in_o ad_fw-la tract_n and._n consulend_v faciend_n but_o 44_o ed._n i._o it_o be_v only_o ad_fw-la consulend_v &_o consentiend_n 46_o ed._n iii_o it_o be_v ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la his_fw-la quae_fw-la tunc_fw-la de_fw-la communi_fw-la concilio_n regni_fw-la contigerit_fw-la ordinari_fw-la so_o 47_o edw._n iii_o which_o have_v be_v the_o general_a form_n ever_o since_o observe_v and_o will_v exclude_v the_o house_n of_o commons_o from_o any_o vote_n in_o parliament_n as_o well_o as_o the_o clergy_n 2._o there_o be_v other_o writ_n of_o summons_n to_o parliament_n wherein_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v leave_v out_o and_o then_o particular_a writ_n be_v send_v to_o such_o dean_n and_o dignify_a clergyman_n as_o the_o king_n think_v fit_a so_o it_o be_v not_o only_o 49_o h._n iii_o but_o there_o be_v two_o summons_n 23_o ed._n i._o and_o in_o one_o of_o they_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v insert_v in_o the_o other_o not_o it_o be_v leave_v out_o 25_o ed._n i._o and_o in_o one_o 27_o ed._n i._o and_o put_v in_o another_o and_o leave_v out_o again_o 28._o and_o 30._o of_o ed._n i._o insert_v 1_o ed._n ii_o in_o one_o writ_n and_o omit_v in_o other_o and_o so_o in_o the_o 3_o follow_a year_n but_o afterward_o general_o insert_v except_o 6_o ed._n ii_o 13._o 16._o 18._o in_o 5_o ed._n iii_o it_o be_v omit_v and_o so_o in_o 6._o and_o some_o few_o year_n afterward_o but_o than_o it_o general_o obtain_v that_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v put_v into_o the_o writ_n of_o the_o bishop_n summons_n to_o the_o parliament_n 3._o there_o be_v writ_n of_o summons_n to_o great_a council_n which_o be_v no_o assembly_n of_o the_o estate_n and_o then_o only_o some_o great_a bishop_n and_o lord_n or_o other_o great_a man_n be_v summon_v without_o any_o writ_n to_o other_o or_o any_o notice_n take_v of_o they_o in_o such_o a_o summons_n 2_o ed._n ii_o only_a 4_o bishop_n be_v name_v 18_o ed._n ii_o only_a 6_o 19_o only_a 5_o 2_o ed._n iii_o only_a 2._o and_o the_o guardian_n of_o the_o spiritualty_n of_o the_o see_v of_o canterbury_n and_o so_o 4_o ed._n iii_o and_o in_o another_o the_o same_o year_n 3_o beside_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n 5_o ed._n iii_o summons_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o york_n and_o 19_o bishop_n more_o 11_o ed._n iii_o the_o writ_n be_v direct_v to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o york_n and_o such_o bishop_n earls_z and_o great_a man_n as_o be_v of_o the_o king_n council_n and_o two_o more_o be_v summon_v the_o same_o year_n the_o form_n of_o the_o writ_n differ_v little_a from_o that_o to_o the_o parliament_n only_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v always_o leave_v out_o and_o only_o some_o particular_a bishop_n and_o noble_n be_v call_v and_o no_o writ_n for_o election_n of_o knight_n or_o burgess_n in_o the_o 16_o ed._n iii_o the_o writ_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n and_o 7_o bishop_n more_o but_o none_o to_o abbot_n prior_n sheriff_n etc._n etc._n which_o show_v that_o this_o be_v magnum_fw-la concilium_fw-la as_o it_o be_v sometime_o call_v but_o no_o parliament_n 4._o there_o be_v writ_n to_o summon_v a_o convocation_n distinct_a from_o the_o writ_n of_o summons_n to_o the_o parliament_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la this_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o first_o writ_n of_o summons_n to_o a_o convocation_n which_o i_o have_v see_v which_o bear_v date_n at_o lincoln_n 17._o feb._n 9_o ed._n ii_o but_o the_o parliament_n be_v summon_v 16._o of_o october_n before_o to_o meet_v at_o lincoln_n in_o quindenâ_fw-la s._n hilarii_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la in_o the_o writ_n to_o the_o bishop_n in_o which_o summons_n to_o convocation_n it_o be_v express_v that_o those_o bishop_n and_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v summon_v to_o parliament_n do_v as_o far_o as_o they_o be_v concern_v unanimous_o yield_v to_o a_o subsidy_n but_o so_o that_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v not_o summon_v to_o parliament_n shall_v meet_v in_o convocation_n and_o consent_v thereto_o therefore_o the_o king_n send_v his_o writ_n to_o the_o archbishop_n to_o summon_v all_o the_o prelate_n whether_o religious_a or_o other_o and_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n of_o his_o province_n to_o meet_v at_o london_n post_v 15._o pasch._n ad_fw-la tractand_v &_o consentiend_n etc._n etc._n here_o we_o have_v the_o plain_a difference_n between_o the_o writ_n to_o parliament_n and_o to_o convocation_n the_o writ_n to_o the_o parliament_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n and_o all_o the_o bishop_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la etc._n etc._n summon_v those_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v then_o think_v necessary_a to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n but_o when_o a_o convocation_n be_v call_v than_o the_o writ_n be_v only_o direct_v to_o the_o two_o archbishop_n who_o be_v to_o summon_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o not_o only_o those_o who_o hold_v by_o barony_n but_o other_o of_o the_o dignify_a clergy_n tam_fw-la exemptos_fw-la quam_fw-la non_fw-la exemptos_fw-la with_o the_o proctor_n of_o the_o chapter_n and_o clergy_n of_o the_o diocese_n ad_fw-la tractand_v '_o &_o consulend_v '_o super_fw-la premissis_fw-la una_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la per_fw-la nos_fw-la tunc_fw-la mittendis_fw-la so_o it_o be_v express_v in_o the_o writ_n for_o convocation_n 11_o ed._n iii_o 29_o ed._n iii_o 31_o ed._n iii_o 7_o r._n ii_o 28_o h._n vi_o 23_o ed._n iu_o only_a these_o two_o last_o have_v this_o difference_n ad_fw-la tractand_v '_o consentiend_n '_o conclude_v '_o super_fw-la premissis_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la que_fw-la sibi_fw-la clarius_fw-la exponentur_fw-la tunc_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la nostra_fw-la these_o thing_n i_o have_v lay_v together_o not_o bare_o to_o clear_v this_o intricate_a matter_n as_o it_o have_v be_v make_v of_o the_o interest_n the_o clergy_n then_o have_v in_o parliament_n as_o well_o as_o convocation_n but_o chief_o to_o prove_v from_o hence_o that_o all_o the_o interest_n they_o have_v in_o parliament_n be_v not_o mere_o on_o the_o account_n of_o the_o temporal_a barony_n which_o the_o bishop_n and_o many_o of_o the_o abbot_n than_o have_v which_o be_v the_o great_a but_o common_a mistake_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n 3_o after_o the_o bishopric_n be_v make_v barony_n the_o distinction_n even_o in_o parliament_n be_v keep_v up_o between_o the_o several_a estate_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n for_o although_o baronagium_n do_v often_o take_v in_o all_o yet_o sometime_o they_o be_v so_o remarkable_o distinguish_v that_o we_o may_v see_v they_o be_v look_v on_o as_o two_o distinct_a estate_n in_o parliament_n so_o eadmerus_n speak_v of_o what_o pass_v in_o the_o parliament_n 3_o h._n ay_o say_v it_o be_v do_v utriusque_fw-la ordinis_fw-la concordi_fw-la curâ_fw-la &_o solicitudine_fw-la 67._o by_o the_o consent_n of_o both_o estate_n so_o matt._n paris_n speak_v of_o the_o summons_n to_o appear_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o h._n i._n comprehend_v all_o under_o those_o 2_o estate_n 55._o clerus_fw-la angliae_fw-la &_o pop._n universus_fw-la and_o again_o respondente_fw-la clero_fw-la &_o magnatibus_fw-la cunctis_fw-la speak_v of_o a_o parliament_n under_o h._n ii_o he_o say_v 143._o convocato_fw-la clero_fw-la regni_fw-la ac_fw-la populo_fw-la in_o 39_o h._n iii_o describe_v a_o parliament_n he_o call_v those_o assemble_a nobiles_fw-la
not_o mention_v in_o the_o abridgement_n n._n 11._o domino_fw-la rege_fw-la &_o tribus_fw-la regni_fw-la statibus_fw-la in_o presenti_fw-la parlamento_n existentibus_fw-la the_o king_n and_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o realm_n be_v present_a in_o parliament_n nothing_o can_v be_v plain_o then_o that_o the_o king_n be_v none_o and_o that_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n 11_o h._n vi_o n._n 24._o lord_n cromwell_n treasurer_n exhibit_v a_o petition_n in_o parliament_n wherein_o he_o say_v the_o estate_n and_o necessity_n of_o the_o king_n and_o of_o the_o realm_n have_v be_v notify_v to_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o land_n assemble_v in_o parliament_n in_o a_o appendix_n annex_v to_o the_o roll_n of_o parliament_n that_o year_n the_o duke_n of_o bedford_n say_v in_o his_o petition_n to_o the_o king_n how_o that_o in_o your_o last_o parliament_n yet_o like_v your_o highness_n by_o yadvis_n of_o three_o estate_n of_o his_o land_n to_o will_v i_o etc._n etc._n 23_o h._n vi_o n._n 11._o present_v domino_fw-la rege_fw-la &_o tribus_fw-la regni_fw-la statibus_fw-la in_o presenti_fw-la parlamento_n existentibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n 28_o h._n vi_o n._n 9_o domino_fw-la rege_fw-la &_o tribus_fw-la regni_fw-la statibus_fw-la in_o pleno_fw-la parlamento_n comparentibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n after_o these_o i_o shall_v insist_v upon_o the_o precedent_n cite_v by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n himself_o 86._o viz._n the_o ratification_n of_o the_o peace_n with_o france_n by_o the_o three_o estate_n 9_o h._n v._o and_o 11_o h._n vii_o which_o he_o allege_v as_o a_o extraordinary_a thing_n that_o the_o three_o estate_n join_v in_o these_o transaction_n whereas_o in_o truth_n it_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o ratification_n of_o the_o peace_n in_o parliament_n and_o consequent_o those_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v the_o three_o estate_n of_o parliament_n 144._o for_o the_o parliament_n be_v then_o 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n._n 9_o when_o the_o chancellor_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o king_n give_v thanks_o to_o the_o three_o estate_n and_o prorogue_v the_o parliament_n where_o it_o be_v plain_a the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n be_v mean_v and_o that_o the_o king_n can_v be_v none_o of_o they_o in_o 38_o h._n vi_o n._n 38._o the_o chancellor_n again_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o king_n and_o of_o the_o three_o estate_n have_v give_v thanks_o to_o all_o the_o estate_n dissolve_v the_o parliament_n but_o that_o which_o put_v this_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n be_v that_o in_o the_o parliament_n 1_o h._n vi_o the_o queen_n dowager_n in_o her_o petition_n mention_n the_o ratification_n make_v in_o parliament_n 9_o h._n v._o and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o only_o swear_v by_o the_o king_n but_o by_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n cest_fw-fr assavoir_fw-fr les_fw-fr prelatz_n noble_n &_o grands_fw-fr &_o per_fw-la les_fw-fr comuns_n de_fw-fr mesm_n le_fw-fr roialm_n 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estate_n in_o parliament_n and_o the_o same_o appear_v by_o another_o petition_n of_o the_o same_o queen_n 2_o h._n vi_o n._n 19_o for_o latter_a time_n i_o shall_v instance_n only_o in_o the_o parliament_n 1_o eliz._n c._n 3._o wherein_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o commons_o declare_v that_o they_o do_v represent_v in_o parliament_n the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o realm_n from_o whence_o it_o follow_v 1._o that_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n must_v be_v represent_v in_o parliament_n 2._o that_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o the_o commons_o do_v represent_v those_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o therefore_o be_v the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n 3._o that_o the_o king_n can_v be_v none_o of_o the_o estate_n in_o parliament_n because_o he_o do_v not_o represent_v any_o of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o it_o be_v a_o wonder_n to_o i_o that_o any_o man_n who_o consider_v the_o constitution_n of_o the_o 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