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his_o will_n or_o that_o content_v not_o but_o renounce_v it_o or_o can_v that_o be_v a_o true_a pastoral_n church_n that_o have_v no_o pastor_n very_o we_o be_v but_o upon_o low_a work_n if_o these_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o must_v prove_v sect._n 9_o he_o add_v and_o one_o or_o other_o of_o these_o he_o think_v must_v if_o not_o all_o the_o parochial_a church_n in_o england_n fall_v under_o answ_n i_o read_v these_o word_n of_o the_o dr._n to_o a_o papist_n to_o speak_v mild_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a untruth_n therefore_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o rage_n for_o i_o to_o have_v say_v the_o like_a how_o do_v he_o prove_v it_o nay_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o not_o only_o profess_v the_o contrary_a but_o give_v the_o reason_n p._n 65._o because_o i_o judge_v of_o their_o office_n by_o god_n word_n and_o not_o by_o the_o rule_n which_o deprive_v they_o of_o a_o essential_a part._n and_o 1._o he_o cit_v my_o confession_n that_o those_o that_o i_o hear_v preach_v well_o 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communion_n with_o heretic_n and_o even_o some_o pope_n and_o council_n to_o hear_v mass_n of_o fornicator_n â—_o what_o mean_v all_o those_o father_n and_o council_n that_o make_v he_o no_o bishop_n that_o come_v not_o in_o with_o the_o people_n consent_n if_o not_o election_n 4._o why_o will_v he_o not_o be_v entreat_v to_o tell_v we_o in_o what_o country_n or_o with_o what_o limitation_n the_o contrary_a doctrine_n must_v be_v receive_v must_v all_o the_o people_n trust_v only_o such_o pastor_n as_o the_o prince_n or_o patron_n choose_v all_o over_o england_n or_o also_o in_o ireland_n france_n spain_n italy_n germany_n among_o lutheran_n calvinist_n greek_n etc._n etc._n suppose_v the_o law_n be_v on_o that_o side_n must_v we_o all_o be_v of_o the_o king_n or_o patron_n religion_n 5._o be_v this_o agreeable_a to_o his_o old_a doctrine_n cite_v chap._n 1._o sect._n 13._o p._n 122._o he_o add_v mr._n baxter_n speak_v his_o mind_n very_o free_o against_o the_o right_n and_o patronage_n and_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o such_o case_n and_o plead_v for_o the_o unalterable_a right_n of_o the_o people_n as_o the_o old_a separatist_n do_v ans_fw-fr be_v this_o true_a 1._o what_o be_v it_o against_o the_o right_n of_o patronage_n or_o magistrate_n power_n for_o i_o to_o choose_v who_o i_o will_v trust_v the_o guidance_n of_o my_o soul_n with_o while_o i_o contradict_v not_o his_o power_n to_o choose_v public_a teacher_n and_o give_v the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n and_o confess_v that_o for_o order_n sake_n i_o ought_v to_o consent_v to_o such_o as_o he_o choose_v thus_o unless_o he_o put_v on_o i_o a_o true_a necessity_n of_o a_o better_a choice_n if_o the_o king_n choose_v all_o the_o hospital_n physician_n what_o wrong_n be_v it_o to_o he_o if_o i_o at_o my_o own_o charge_n choose_v a_o better_a for_o myself_o when_o i_o think_v else_o ignorance_n or_o malice_n will_v murder_v i_o do_v he_o that_o desire_v as_o i_o ever_o do_v that_o in_o so_o 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communion_n and_o yet_o i_o say_v not_o that_o it_o be_v always_o faultless_a for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o execute_v their_o own_o law_n in_o some_o case_n where_o public_a good_a require_v it_o i_o may_v best_o communicate_v with_o they_o as_o far_o as_o they_o permit_v i_o without_o the_o impose_v sin_n till_o they_o do_v execute_v they_o but_o this_o excuse_v not_o their_o schism_n sect._n 33._o p._n 140._o he_o blame_v i_o as_o charge_v he_o with_o the_o silence_v design_n ans_fw-fr i_o do_v warn_v he_o in_o real_a desire_n of_o his_o safety_n if_o defend_v the_o church-law_n and_o endeavour_n for_o our_o restraint_n in_o the_o word_n to_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n if_o preach_v and_o write_v against_o our_o preach_n as_o schism_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n in_o his_o book_n do_v signify_v no_o own_n of_o our_o silence_v i_o be_o glad_a that_o he_o mean_v better_a than_o he_o seem_v who_o can_v have_v think_v otherwise_o that_o have_v read_v 1._o his_o first_o q._n whether_o 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