Causes ‡ Vntruthe Reade the Ansvveare * O glorious Thraso Then vvas the Apostles state mutch more beggerly This â—â—linge as not ours but S. Bâ—â—nardes * The Pope by M Hardinge compared with Iudas 〈◊〉 Citatur ab Illyrico inter 〈◊〉 Verit. Pag. 121. Chrysostom In Matth. Hom. 35. Hieronym Contra Hieronym in Sophontam caâ— Concil Trident. Sub Paulo 3. Admonitio Legator Auentinus Le. 3. De Ruperto Christum omnium Deorum esse pauperrimum Ecclesiastical brauerie in Apparel Bernard in Cantica Sermo 33. Holcote in Sapien Lectio 23. Bernard in Cantica Sermo 77. Paralipomena Vrspergen Bernard De Consideratione ad Eugenium Lib. 1. 8. quae 1. Qui Episcopatum Augustin 2. quae 7. qui nec Augustin August contra Donatist Li. 6. Bernard De Consideratione ad Eugeni Li. 3. 1. Corinth 15. * Vntruthe For vvee allege many other places bisides as it maie sooue appeare 1. Pet. 2. Rom. 13. Supreme Heade Supreme Gouernoure * Then cannot the Pope be Heade of the Churche For he hath persecuted the Church as mutche as Nero. ‡ Mutche a doo about nothing For our Prince hath not this Title But Queene Marie had and vsed the same title of Supreme Heade as many vvaies it maie be proued Extra De maiorita obedien Ca. 2. In margi Epist Eleutherij Citatur inter Leges Edwardi Primi Quintae Synodi Act io 1 pijssimo Tertullian Ad Scapulam Chryso in Epist ad Phili. Hom. 13 A Wooman Head of the Churche Chrysosto ad Populum Antioch Homil. 2. ‡ A graue disputer Ye conclude againste that that is not auouched * Vntruthe fonde and manifeste and leadinge directely to desperation Iohan. 20. ‡ Vntruthe ioined vvith blasphemie Reade the Answeare Matth. 16. * A fonde folie For this Keie is geeuen no more to the Pope then to any other Simple Prieste August in Epist 50. Ad Bonifac. August Confess Lib. 10. Cap. 3. Aug. in Psal 126 Aug. in Psal 127 Alphons De Haeresib Lib. 2. De Absolutione Origen in Matthae Tractat. 1. Extra De of fic Iudicis Ordina Pastoralis In Gloss De poenit Dist 1 Quis aliquado De poenit Dis 1. Conuertiminâ— In eodem Cap. De poenit Dis 1 Omnis qui. De poenit Dis 5. In poeniten In Glossa Chrysost De CoÌ„fess poenit The Prince iudgeth in Ecclesiastical causes * The Kinge is the Priestes Executioner ‡ O Vanitie of Vanities Aaron the Bishop sette vp the Golden Calfe and cried vnto the people This is thy God But Moses the Ciuile Magistrate or Prince brake it dovvne 1. Reg. 28. Deut. 17. * Ful discretely As though Kinges had not Officers to keepe theire Recordes ‡ Vntruthe For vvee haue falsified no parte hereof as it shal appeare Deut. 17. * Here M. Hard. vvould faine saie sommevvhat if he vviste vvhat it vvere Reade the Ansvveare Cap. 49. ‡ By this prety Conclusion the Kinge is the Seruant and the Prieste is the Maister De Maior Obedien Vnam Sanctam The Prince iudgeth in Ecclesiastical causes Psalm 2. Authen Constitu 123. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Fancis Zarabell De Schemate Concil Esai 5. Actor 19. Iohan. 18. M. Hardinge Pag. 302 a. M. Hardinge Pag. 192 a. Pag. 192. b. Ceremoniari Lib. 2. Sectio 2. Paul Phagius in Deuter. Cap. 17. Hugo in Deute Cap. 17. Deuteronomie A copie A Double Augusti Contra Faustum Lib. 16. Cap. 21. Et in Psal 58. Et sapè alibi Iohan. De paris De potesta Reg. et Papali Cap. 5. Chrysosto in Genesim Homil. 9. Questo Doppio Le Double Iosua 8. Dis 98. Si Imperator In Glossa The Pope a Kinge Moses a Prieste Exod. 32. ‡ Vntruthe For at that time he vvas no Prieste * Vntruthe For it proueth the coÌ„trarie Reade the Ansvveare ‡ Vntruth confessed by M. H. frendes For in the time of Moses Lavve the Prieste vvas inferiours to the Prince * Substantial Argumentes vvhereby to proue the Pope a Kinge Psal 109. Iustinus in Dial. aduersus Typh Exod. 19. 1. Pet. 2. ‡ Discretely reasoned For al this perteineth as vvel to a Simple Prieste as to the Pope * LouaniaÌ„ Logique Moses Consecrated Aaron Ergo The Pope is a Kinge Psal 98. The Pope is a Kinge Moses a Prieste Hiero in Psal 98 Hierony in Micheam Cap. 6. Hugo in Psal 98. Hebrae 5. Hierony in Qu Hebraici in Genesim Hierony in Iob. Cap. 1. Dist 10. De Capitulis in Gloss Inter acta Gelasij Exod. 29. Heruaeus de Potestat pp. Ca. 18. The Pope is a Kinge Extra De Maiorita Obedien Solitae In Glossa Iohan. De Paris De potestat Regia Pap ca. 5. Iohan. 18. Heruaeus de Potestat Pp. Cap. 8. 1. Pet. 2. Tertul. in Exhorta ad Castit Apocal. 1. Aug. Q Euang. Lib. 2. Cap. 40. Augu. De Ciuit. Dei Li. 20. Ca. 10 Ambros in LucaÌ„ Lib. 5. ap 6. Hierony in Malachi Cap. 1. The Pope is a kinge kingely Priestehoode Chrysost 2. Cor. Homil. 3. Matth. 20. Dist 10. Quoniam idem Glossa Bernar. De Considera Lib. 2. Heruaeus de Potestat Pp. Ca. 18. Dorman Fol. 40. Conc. Macrense Citatur ab Illyrico inter Testes Verita Pag. 121. Iosua Iosua Cap. 1. Num. 27. Exod. 32. August Contra Cresconium Li. 3. Cap. 51. 1. Paralip 13. Kinge Dauid ordereth maters of Religion * An il comparison For that the one set vp the other pluckte dovvne 1. Paral. 15. ‡ A simple shifte God vvote For other Kinges that did the like vvere no Prophetes 1. Paralipom 16. 1. Paralipom 24. 2. Paralipom 8. 2 Paralipom 19. 2. Paral. 6. 3. Reg. 8. 3. Reg. 2. * Vntruthe For vvhat Superiour Bishoppes Authoritie vsed Salomon in the Deposition of Abiathar Kinge Salomon Judgeth in Spiritual cases ‡ Vntruthe manifeste Reade the Ansvveare 2. Parali 5. 6. 7. 8. 2. Paralip 8. 2. Paral. 29. 4. Reg. 18. Ezechias 4. Reg. 20. 4. Reg. 9. * Vntruthe For the Priestes did nothinge but againste their vvilles Reade the Ansvveare ‡ This is farre from the pourpose For Esaias and Elizaeus neither vvere Priestes noâ— had the eâ—ecution of Priestly Offices 2. Paralip 29. 2. Paralip 30. 1. Paralip 17. 2. Par. 19. 4. Reg. 12. 4. Reg. 10. losias Iohas Iehu * Ye mighte haue founde it 4 Reg. Ca. 12. ‡ But he Iudged them and condemned them for False Propheres This vvas no mere Temporal office 4. Regum 12. 2. Paralipom 35. 4. Regum 21. Dorman Fol. 37. Dorman Fol. 39. * Euen so Iâ—ppiter or Baaâ—s Bishop vvas as vvel a Bishop as the Bishop of Rome ‡ Neither can the Pope meddle more vvith Religion then Annas or Caâ—phas * Vntruthe â–ª For if the Bishop had offended he vvas subâ—ecte to the Prince as vvel vvithin the Churche aâ— vvithout â–ª Deut â–ª 17. The Prince a ludge in Ecclesiastical causes 1. Paral. 26. * The Prince is Executioner to the Prieste ‡ Vntruthe euident Reade the Ansvveare Aristotel Foliticor Li. 3. Socrates Lib. 5. in Prooemio 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉
offices it proueth that a Priest may haue both but not cōtrariwise that a King may haue both For the greater may include the lesse but the lesse can not include the greater The office of a Priest is the highest of al. And Christe comming naturally of the Kinges line from Dauid in the tribe of Iuda yet estemed that honor nothinge in respecte of that he was a Prieste according to the order of Melchisedech Therefore Melchisedech also beinge both Prieste and Kinge was not yet saide to be the figure of Christe so mutche concerninge his Kingedome as his Priesthoode For Dauid said of Christe Thou art a Prieste for euer after the order of Melchtsedech As for his Kingedome it was included in his Priestes office And therefore when we speake of Christes Kingedome though in euery respecte he be the very Kinge in dede of al Kinges and Lord of al Lordes yet we assigne it also to haue ben vpon the Crosse vbiregnauit à ligno Deus where God reigned from the woodde Accordinge to the same meaninge whereas the people of Israel were called Regnum Sacerdotale a Priestly Kingedome S. Peter writing to the Christians tourned the order of the wordes calling the Churche of Christ Sacerdotium Regale a Kingely Priesthoode Moses was both a Prieste and a Ciuile Gouernoure as beinge a figure of Christe who ioined both together makinge the tribe of Iuda which was before kingly now also to be Priestly Therefore S. Augustine vpon those wordes of Dauid Psal 98. Moses and Aaron are in the number of his Priestes concludeth that Moses muste nedes haue benne a Prieste For saithe he if he were not a Priest what was he ‡ Nunquid maior sacerdote esse potuit could he be greater then a Prieste ‡ As who shoulde saie there is no greater dignitie then priesthoode And seinge Moses had the greatest dignitie for he ruled al and consecrated Aarō high Bishop and his sonnes Priestes therefore him selfe muste nedes haue ben a Prieste Nowe if Moses were bothe and his chiefe office was Priesthoode it foloweth by that example that the Pope maie rule temporally but not that a Kinge maie rule spiritually This you haue gained nothinge by this example The B. of Sarisburie Here M. Hardinge hath many greate woordes of smal weight The final Conclusion and Summa summarum is this The Pope muste needes be a Kinge And that he proueth as his manner is by these his yonge vntiedy Argumentes Moses being a Ciuile Magistrate or a Prince had also the Priesthoode was a Prieste Ergo saithe he The Pope beinge a Prieste muste haue also the Kingedome be a Kinge And thus he peeceth these maters handsomely togeather as though what so euer were once in Moses ought of necessitie to be also in y◠Pope But if a man shoulde desire him to proue his Argumente to make it good and to shewe vs howe these péeces maie be framed togeather I thinke he would be faine to take a daie Firste whether Moses were a Prieste or no it is not certaine As for that M. Harding allegeth these woordes of Dauid Moses Aaron in Sacerdotibus eius he him selfe wel knoweth that the Hebrewe woorde there is doubteful and signifieth as wel a Prince as a Prieste S. Hierome saithe Vnus Legis alte◠Sacerdotij Regulam tenuit Moses helde the Rule of the Lawe Aaron the Rule of Priesthoode Againe he saithe Emisit ante faciem nostram Mosen Spiritualem Legem Aaron magnum Sacerdotem God sente out before our face Moses not as the Prieste but as the Spiritual Lawe and Aaron the greate Prieste Euen Hugo your owne Doctoure touching the same woordes saithe thus Moses etsi c. Notwithstandinge Moses vvere not a Prieste yet bicause he halowed the peoples praiers c. he was called a Prieste For in the Scriptures Greate and Noble menne are called by the name of Prieste Who so listeth to knowe more hereof let him reade Sanctes Pagninus Dauid Kimchi Nicolaus Lyra c. But if Moses in déede were a Prieste yee shoulde doo wel M. Hardinge to resolue vs Fiest whether he were a Prieste borne or els afterwarde made a Prieste A Prieste borne I trowe yée wil not saie If yée saie he was afterwarde made a Prieste then tel vs by what Bishop or other Creature was he Consecrate At whoe 's handes receiued he Authoritie When where to what pourpose What Priestelike Apparel euer ware he Or in what Office or Ministerie euer shewed he him self to be a Prieste S. Paule saith A Prieste is appointed to offer vp Oblations and Sacrifices for sinne What Oblations or Sacrifices for sinne can yée tel vs that Moses offered If he were neither Borne a Prieste nor made a Prieste nor euer knowen by office to be a Prieste then was he I trowe a very strange Prieste If Moses were the Highest Prieste and Head of the Churche and Aaron likewise the Highest Prieste and in so mutche the Heade of the Churche too as wel as he then had y◠Churche tvvoo highest Bishoppes and tvvoo Heades bothe togeather Whiche thinge were monstrous not onely in speache but also in Nature Notwithstandinge whether Moses at any one certaine time were a Prieste or no it is a mater not woorthy the striuinge Certaine it is that before the Lavve was written Kinges Princes and the beste borne and Enheritours y◠wealthiest of the people were euer Priestes S. Hierome saithe Hebraei tradunt Primogenitos functos Officio Sacerdotum habuisse Vestimentum Sacerdotale quo induti Deo Victimas offerebant antequam Aaron in Sacerdotium eligeretur The Hebrevve Rabbines saie that the Firste borne children did the office of the Priestes and had the Priestelike Apparel and wearing the same offered vp theire Sacrifices vnto God vntil the time that Aaron was chosen into the Priestehoode Againe he saithe Priuilegium Offerendi Primogenitis vel maximè Regibus debebatur The Priuilege of offering vp Sacrifices was dewe to y◠First borne of the children but most of al vnto Kinges The Heathen Romaine Emperours as Vespasianus Traianus and others to encrease their Maiestie towardes their Subiectes biside the state of the Emprere woulde also be called Pontifices Maximi Therefore wee wil graunte M. Harding séeinge he hath taken so mutch paines about a mater not woorthy so longe talke that Moses for somme litle shorte time was a Prieste Yet neuerthelesse had he no Ordinarie Priesthoode neither was he a Prieste more then for the space of twoo or thrée houres onely vntil he had Consecrated Aaron and his children no lenger Immediately afterward al this greate Priestehoode was at an end One of your owne Doctours M. Hardinge saithe thus Non erant Sacerdotes Legales Dignitate Officio sicut Aaron Licet in necessitate propter defectum Sacerdotum aliquos actus Sacerdotum fecerint vt quòd Moses inunxit Aaron propter quod Moses
Sacerdos dicitur in Psalmo The Firstborne were not Priestes in Office and Dignitie as Aaron was notwithstanding in case of necessitie and for lacke of Priestes they did somme parte of the Priestes Office as that Moses anointed or Consecrated Aaron for whiche thinge Moses in the Psalme is called a Prieste This M. Hardinge is that Fundation that must néedes beare the burthen of your whole Churche of Rome The Pope yée saie muste be a Kinge bicause Moses was bothe Prince and Priest And yet your own Felowes saie Moses by Office and Dignitie vvas neuer Prieste Yée saie The Pope being a Bishop maie be a Kinge But of the other side a King maie in no wise be a Bishop thus either vnwitingely or willingly yée seeme to ouerthrowe your owne Position For the Example that yée grounde vpon of Aaron and Moses proueth quite the contrarie For Moses being a Prince did also the Office of a Bishop But Aaron beinge the Bishop did neuer the Office of a Prince Therefore hereof yée might better Conclude the a Prince maie be a Bishop But a Bishop maie not be a Kinge Streighten your boltes therefore M. Harding shaue thē better before yée so suddainely I wil not saie so rudely shoote them from you Neuerthelesse yée saie the Priesthoode whiche is the more maie conteine the Kingedome beinge y◠lesse In this respecte I trowe your Glose as it is said before compareth the Pope to the Sonne and the Emperoure to the Moone findeth out substantially by good Geometrical Proportion that the Pope is iust seuen and fiftie times greater then the Emperour How be it your owne Doctours saie as I haue likewise shewed before that in the Lavve of Moses the Prince was greater then the Prieste That ye allege of the Priesthoode and Kingedome of Christe serueth you to smal purpose For I beseche you what Crovvne what Scepter what Svverde bare Christe What Ecclesiastical Priesthoode had he but onely that he executed vpon the Crosse Verily touching any Ciuile shewe or outward Office as he was no Kinge so was he no Prieste As he said My Kingdome is not of this world So might he also haue said My Priesthoode is not of this vvorld Otherwise he was bothe King Priest in Power Vertue but not apparētly in outward office One of your Felowes saithe thus Pater per Sanctos Expositores quòd Christus non habuit in Temporalibus Authoritatem vel Iudicium Sed dare potuit dare habuit Virtutis Documentum It appeareth by the Holy Expositours that Christe had neither Authoritie nor Iudgemente in thinges Temporal But he coulde bothe geeue and had to geeue Instructions of Vertue As for these twoo woordes of S. Peter Yee are a Kingely Priesthoode yée woulde not haue alleged them to this pourpose had yée not benne in your dreame For thinke you that S. Peter called the whole Body of the Churche of Christe a Kingely Priesthoode for that you fansie your Pope to be togeather bothe Priest and Kinge Certainely the Churche of God was a Kingely Priesthoode before either the Churche of Rome was a Churche or the Pope of Rome was a Pope Yee should haue somme care to deale more reuerently with the VVoorde of God For it is Holy S. Peters meaninge is this that euery Faithful Christian man is now after a Spiritual or Ghostly meaning not onely a Prieste but also a King and therefore he calleth the whole Churche a Kingely Priesthoode Tertullian saithe thus Nónne Laici Sacerdotes sumus Regnum quoqque nos Sacerdotes Deo Patri suo fecit And wee that be Laiemen are wee not Priestes Truly Christe hath made euen vs a kingdome and Priestes vnto his Father S. Augustine saith Hoc Sacerdotio Regali consecrantur omnes pertinentes ad Corpus Christi Summi Veri Principis Sacerdotum With this Roial Priesthoode al thei are consecrate that perteine to the Body of Christe whiche is the high and true Prince of Priestes Againe he saith Omnes sunt Sacerdotes quia Membra sunt vnius Sacerdotis Al be Priestes because thei are the Members of one Prieste S. Ambrose saith Omnes Filij Ecclesiae Sacerdotes sunt Al the Children of the Churche be Priestes S. Hierome saithe Genus Sacerdotale Regale sumus omnes qui Baptizati in Christo Christi censemur Nomine Al we are that Priestely and Kingely Kinred that beinge Baptized in Christe are called Christians by the name of Christe Chrysostome saith Et tu in Baptismo Rex efficeris Sacerdos Propheta Euen thou in thy Baptisme art made both a King and a Prieste and a Prophete Nowe M. Hardinge let vs take the vlewe of youre Priestely Conclusions Moses once did one parte of the Bishoppes Office to Consecrate Aaron his children that ▪ neuer at any time els ▪ neither after nor before Christ Rath a Spiritual Priesthoode a Spiritual Kingdome for otherwise Ordinarie Priesthood and Earthely Kingedome he had none S. Peter calleth the whole Churche of Christe a Kingely Priesthoode Ergo saie you The Pope beareth bothe the Office of a Prieste and also the Righte and State of an Earthly Kinge To dissemble al other the fonde weakenesse of these folies Christe him selfe saith to the Pope and to al other Priestes and Bishoppes The Kinges of Nations rule ouer them and they that are greate exercise Authoritie ouer the people But it shal not be so emongest you S. Cyprian saithe as he is alleged by Gratian Christus actibus proprijs Dignitatibus distinctis officia Potestatis vtriusque discreuit Christe by seueral deuties and distincte honoures hath set a difference bitweene the Offices of bothe Powers Whereupon your owne Glose saithe Hic est Argumentum quòd Papa non habet vtrunque Gladium Here is a good Argument that the Pope hath not bothe Swerdes S. Bernarde saith thus vnto Pope Eugenius Planū est quòd Apostolis interdicitur Dominatus Ergo tu tibi vsurpare aude aut Dominās Apostolatum aut Apostolicus Dominatum Planè ab alterutro prohiberis Si Vtrunque similiter habere vis perdes vtrunque Alioqui ne te putes exceptum illorum numero de quibus conqueritur Dominus dicens Ipsi regnauerunt non ex me It is plaine that Temporal Dominion is forebidden the Apostles Nowe therefore thou being Pope dare to vsurpe either the Apostleship beinge a Prince or the Princehoode beinge the successoure of the Apostles Doubtelesse from the one of them thou arte forebidden If thou wilte indifferentely haue bothe thou shalte lose bothe Otherwise thinke not thou canste bee excepted from the mimber of them of whom the Lorde complaineth Thei haue made them selues kinges and not by mee Concerninge the place of S. Peter one of your companie saithe it nothinge furthereth the Popes Kingedome Thus he saithe Sacerdotium dicitur Regale à Regno non huius mundi sed Coeli
The B. of Sarisburie Al this whole mater touchinge as wel Kinge Iehosophat as also Amarias the Highe Prieste is answeared in that is paste before The Apologie Cap. 11. Diuision 11. Kinge Iosias with greate diligence put the Priestes Bishoppes in minde of their dueties Kinge Iohas bridled the Riote and Arrogancie of the Priestes Iehu put to deathe the wicked Prophetes M. Hardinge The puttinge of Priestes and Bishoppes in minde of their dutie is not a Supremacie in determininge Ecclesiasticall causes And whereas you saie that Kinge Ioas bridled the râ—ot and arrogancie of the Priestes if it were so it was well donne But I finde not those woordes in the texte Concerninge that Iehu did it is a mere temporall Office to put false preachers and Heretikes to death Neither can it belonge to Priestes onlesse they haue also ciuill iurisdiction Muche lesse dothe that acte proue that Kinges be Supreme heades ouer the Churche and ought to be Iudges in controuersies and questions of Religion The B. of Sarisburie Concerninge the storie of Kinge Iohas I reporte me to that is written of him in the Booke of Kinges He sequestred the Oblations of the people whiche the Priestes had bestowed lewdely and wantonly vpon them selues and by his owne Authoritie turned the same to the Reparations of the Temple Of Kinge Iosias it is written thus Constituit Iosias Sacerdotes in officijs suis Kinge Iosias appointed the Priestes to minister in theire seueral Offices And againe Mundauit Iudam Hierusalem ab Excelsis Lucis Kinge Iosias cleansed and ridde Iuda and Hierusalem from their Hille Aultars and their Groaues But yée wil saie He did al thinges by yâ— discretion of the Priestes Bishoppes This thinge in deede is necessarie while the Priestes and Bishoppes be learned and godly But Kinge Iosias did far otherwise for he sent the Bishop him selfe vnto Olda the Prophetisse to learne the discretion and Iudgemente of a VVooman and so was directed in maters of Highest Religion by a VVooman and not by a Prieste These Examples be so manifeste that one of your Felowes there is faine thus to excuse the mater by ouer mutche Antiquitie If we woulde in these daies saithe he vse in all pointes the Examples of the Olde Lawe there woulde folowe an huge number of inconueniences It is no good reason to saie that therefore our Kinges nowe a daies muste haue the like Authoritie Thus saithe he As though the Princes righte were now abated and altered as the Ceremonies of the Lawe were otherwise nowe then it was before Or as if the Comminge of Christe into the worlde and the Preachinge of the Gospel had pourposely benne to represse and pulle downe the State of Kinges The Apologie Cap. 12. Diuision 1. And to rehearse no more Examples out of the Olde Lawe let vs rather consider sithence the Birthe of christe howe the churche hath benne gouerned in the time of the Gospel M. Hardinge If we consider the Office of a Kinge in it selfe it is one euery where not onely amonge Christen Princes but also amonge Heathen * The definition of a Kinge whiche agreeth to Iulius Cesar or to Alexander the Greate as they were Monarkes and Princes is one with the definition of a Kinge whiche agreeth to Henry the Eight or to Charles the Fifthe So that no more could Kinge Henry as Kinge meddle with Religion then Alexander or Iulius Cesar * His place is chiefe amonge the laie euen when they are in the Churche at the Seruice of God and without the Churche in all Temporall thinges and causes he is ouer the Priestes themselues And because all these examples are taken out of the Olde Testamente I will geeue thee a true resolution out of the same Booke what auctoritie Priestes had and what auctoritie Kinges had Moses gaue this rule concerninge the same matter If saithe he thou perceiue an harde and doubtfull iudgement to be with thee betweene bloude and bloude cause and cause Lepre and Lepre and seest the woordes of the iudges within thy gates to varie arise and goe vp to the place whiche thy Lorde God shall chose and thou shalte come to the Priestes of the stocke of Leui and to the Iudge that shall be for the time and thou shalte demaunde of them who shall shewe the truthe of iudgemente to thee But neither the Prieste by this place may medle with that iurisdiction whiche belonged to the Temporall iudge neither the Iudge with that whiche was spirituall and belonginge onely to the Prieste For of such causes Azarias the Priest and Bishop saide to Kinge Ozias It is not thy office Ozias to burne incense vnto our Lorde It is the office of the Priestes That is to saie of the Sonnes of Aaron VVho are consecrated to doo suche Ministeries But this the Kinge mighte doo euen in matters of Religion VVhen the High Priest had geuen sentence he might see the execution thereof to be donne But otherwise what so euer Kinge or Temporal iudge might not doo in his owne person ‡ muche lesse mighte he iudge whether an other did well therein or no. And this concerninge the Olde Testament The B. of Sarisburie The Office of a Kinge yée saie was no more in Kinge Henry the Eighth or in Charles the Fifthe then it was in the Heathen Princes Iulius Caesar or Alexander the Greate And therefore yée saie a Christian Princes Office standeth onely in Maters Temporal and for that cause yee so often calle him a Mere Laie Temporal Prince as if he were in Authoritie not mutche better then an Heathen Magistrate Euen so M. Harding is your Pope no more a Bishop or perhaps mutche lesse a Bishop then Annas and Caiphas Neither is your Prieste more a Prieste then the Prieste of Dagon or Baal The difference standeth not in Office but onely in Truthe Yet neuerthelesse yée knowe that Heathen Princes had euermore a Soueraine Authoritie not onely ouer theire Priestes and Bishoppes but also ouer al Cases of Religion Aristotle saithe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Kinge that is Lorde and Ruler of thinges that perteine vnto the Goddes And therefore Socrates in his storie saithe Imperatores vnà complexi sumus c. Wee haue also herein comprised the Emperours Liues for that sithence the Emperours were first Christened the affaires of the Churche haue hanged of them and the greatest Councelles bothe haue benne and are keapte by theire aduise Yee saie The Prince in doubteful Cases was commaunded to take Counsel of the Highest Prieste This is true But wil yée conclude hereof that the Highest Prieste maie saie doo what he listeth without controlmente What if the Highe Prieste woulde answeare thus as he answeared sommetime in déede This Christe is a Samaritane a deceiuer of the people and hath a Diuel What if he teare his owne roabes for anger and crie oute He Blasphemeth he is vvoorthy to die Yet
that he heareth loseth the thinge that he heareth Therefore the Pope him selfe in his Pontifical géeueth this special Charge vnto the Reader Stude Lectiones Sacras distinctè apertè proferre ad Intelligentiam aedificationem Fidelium Endeuoure thee selfe to pronounce the Holy Lessons or Chapters distinctely and plainely not to a Spiritual doumbenesse but to the vnderstandinge and profite of the Faitheful Touching the Praiers that the simple people maketh in a tongue vnknowen Christe saithe This people honoureth me with theire lippes But theire hartes are far from mee The Apologie Cap. 9. Diuision 2. In these thinges haue they set al theire Religion teachinge the people that by the same God maie be duely pacified Spirites be driuen awaie and mens consciences wel quieted M. Hardinge VVhat shal I saie to al this but that ye lie I would saie as the manner is Sauing your worshippes but that your often and vnshamefaste lieing hath quite taken awaie from you al opinion of honestie Al Christes Religion whiche we professe consisteth not in these thinges neither by these be mennes consciences quieted By certaine of these euil and impure sprites be driued awaie in deede VVhich here by sundry Aunciente recordes and Testimonies I woulde declare to be moste true were it not wel yenough knowen by daily experience But as for you whereas neither Breade nor VVater nor Crosse driueth you awaie it semeth ye are worse to be coniured then the deuil himselfe Many of your secte Catholike Princes haue founde so stubborne as they could yet neuer ridde theire Countries of them but by coniuration of fire The B. of Sarisburie Yée saie yée ye neuer sought to quiet mennes Cōsciences by Oile Water Palmes c. And therefore ye stande vp a tipps toe and in your familiare manner crie oute yee lie For shorte trial hereof one example maie suffice in stéede of many Augustine Steuchus one of your special and woorthy Doctoures saithe thus Aquas Sale Orationibus Sanctificamus vt ad earum Aspersum nostra deleātur delicta We halowe VVater with Salte and Praiers that by the Sprinkelinge thereof our sinnes maie be foregeeuen Reade your owne Pontifical and ye shal finde in the halowinge of your VVater your Asshes your Palmes your Candels c. this clause euermore in the ende Vt sint nobis ad Salutem Animae Corporis That they maie be to vs to the Saluation of Body and soule Whereas in the ende ye vaunte your selfe of your Crueltie and so pleasantly make Sporte with the Bloude of your Brethern take it not for il if I answeare you with the Woordes of Salomon Viscera impiorum crudelia The bowelles of the wicked be alwaies cruel Therein M. Hardinge standeth your greateste puissance If ye were no better armed with Fire and Svverde then ye be with Scriptures and Doctoures no wise man woulde greately feare your force As for vs wée maie answeare you now as S. Cyprian sommetime answeared the Heathens Nobis ignominia non est pati à Fratribus quod passus est Christus neque vobis gloria est facere quod fecit Iudas It is no shame for vs to suffer of our Brethren the same violence that Christe suffered neither is it any praise for you to doo the same thinge that Iudas did Tertullian saith vnto your Fathers Crudelitas vestra gloria nostra est Semen est Sanguis Christianorum Your crueltie is our Glorie The Bloude of Christians is the seede of the Gospel I praie God al that innocente Bloude that hath benne sheadde in this cause be not required at your handes in the daie of Wrathe and at the declaration of the iuste iudgemente of God The Apologie Cap. 10. Diuision 1. For these lo be the oriente colours and Pretious sauours of Christian Religion these thinges dooth God looke vpon and accepteth thē thankefully these must cōme in place to be honoured must put quite awaie the Institutions of Christe of his Apostles And like as in times paste when wicked Kinge Ieroboam had taken from the people the right seruing of God had brought thē to woorship the Golden Calues leste perchaunce thei might afterward change theire minde and slippe awaie geatinge them againe to Ierusalem to the Temple of God there hee exhorted them with a longe tale to be stedfast saieinge thus vnto them O Israel these Calues be thy Goddes In this sorte commaunded your God you shoulde woorship him For it shoulde be wearisome and troublous for you to take vpon you a iourney so farre of yeerely to goe vp to Ierusalem there to serue and honoure your God Euen after the very same sorte when these menne had once made the Lawe of God of none effecte through theire owne Traditions fearinge that the people shoulde afterwarde open theire eies fal an other waie and shoulde sommewhence els seeke a surer meane of theire Saluation Iesu howe often haue they cried out This is the same woorshippinge that pleaseth God and whiche hee straitely requireth of vs and wherewith he wil be turned from his wrathe that by these thinges is conserued the Vnitie of the Churche that by these al sinnes be cleansed and consciences quieted and that who so departeth from these hath leafte vnto him selfe no hope of Euerlastinge Saluation For it were wearisome and troublous saie they for the people to resorte to Christe to the Apostles and to the Anciente Fathers and to obserue continually what theire wil and commaundement should be This ye maie see is to withdrawe the people of God from the Weake Elementes of the worlde from the leauen of the Scribes and Phariseis and from the Traditions of menne It were reason no doubte that Christes Commaundementes and the Apostles were remoued that these theire diuises might comme in place O iuste cause I promise you why that Anciente and so longe allowed Doctrine shoulde be nowe abolished and a newe Forme of Religion be brought into the Churche of God M. Hardinge It shoulde haue becomme Scoggin Patche Iolle Harry Pattenson or VVil Sommer to haue tolde this tale mutche better then your Superintendentships And if ye woulde nedes haue plaied the parte your selues it had ben more conuenient to haue donne it on the stage vnder a vices cote then in a booke set abrode to the worlde in defence of al your newe Englishe Churche Ye shal neuer make any reasonoble man beleue your scoffinge tale VVe esteme litle your railinge comparison with your spiteful woordes and so mutche deuilishe villany The Apologie Cap. 10. Diuision 2. And yet whatsoeuer it be these menne crie stil that nothing ought to be changed that mens mindes are wel satisfied here withal that the Churche of Rome the Churche whiche cannot erre hath decreed these thinges For Syluester Prieriàs saith that the Romishe Churche is the Squier and Rule of Truthe that the Holy Scripture hath receiued from thence Authoritie and Credite The Doctrine saith he
S. Peter calleth vs a Kingely Priesthoode of the Kingedome of Heauen not of the Kingedome of this worlde Yet is this the selfe same Kingdome that the Pope craueth that by the Authoritie of S. Peter Notwithstandinge one of your companie there hath sente vs home lately other newes from Louaine His woordes be these Vos estis Regale Sacerdotium You are a Kingly Priesthoode as who should saie the Priesthoode before was not Kingly for that then Kinges ruled ouer Priestes But now is the Priesthoode Kingely for that to it be subiecte euen Kinges themselues Thus onlesse your Priestes maie rule Kinges Princes al the world at theire pleasure yée thinke thei haue no Kingly Priesthoode In the Councel holden at Macra in France it is written thus Solus Dominus noster Iesus Christus verè fieri potuit Rex Sacerdos Post Incarnationem verò Resurrectionem Ascensionem eius in Coelum nec Rex Pontificis Dignitatem nec Pontifex Regiam Potestatem sibi vsurpare praesumpsit Onely our Lorde Iesus Christe might truly be bothe Priest and King But sithence his Incarnation and Resurrection and Ascension into heauen neither hath the King presumed to take vpon him the Dignitie or office of a Bishop nor hath the Bishop presumed to vsurpe the Power and Maiestie of a Prince To be shorte M. Hardinge wée saie not as you so often so vntruly haue reported that the Kinge maie in any wise execute the Bishoppes Office But thus we saie and bicause it is true therefore wée saie it The Kinge maie lawfully correcte and chastice the Negligence Falsehedde of the Bishoppes and that in so dooinge he dooth onely his owne Office and not the Bishoppes The Apologie Cap. 11. Diuision 6. Iosua also though he were none other then a Ciuile Magistrate yet as sone as he was chosē by God and set as a Ruler ouer the people he receiued Commaundementes specially touching Religion and the Seruice of God M. Hardinge There is no doubte but Iosue receiued commission and commaundemente to woorship God but none to rule Priestes in spiritual matters Ye rather he was commaunded to go foorthe and come in at the voice and worde of Eleazarus the high Prieste he and al the Children of Israel Do not these men proue their matter handsomly The B. of Sarisburie Iosua was commaunded to goe in and out and to be directed by the voice of Eleazarus the High Prieste Therefore yée saie in Spiritual Causes the Priestes maie not be controlled by the Prince Yée deliuer out youre Argumentes M. Hardinge before they be ready These péeces would haue benne better tied togeather Though the Prince be commaunded to heare the Prieste yet if the Prieste be negligente or deceiue the people he maie by his Ordinarie Authoritie controlle the Prieste When Aaron the High Prieste had consented to the makinge and woorshippinge of the Golden Calfe Moses beinge then the Temporal Prince rebuked him sharpely vnto his face and in so dooinge did not the Bishoppes Office but onely his owne As touchinge Iosua whom ye woulde faine haue restreined from al Ecclesiastical Causes he caused the people to be Circumcised He caused Aultars for theire Bloudy Sacrifices to be erected He caused the Priestes to make theire Sacrifices He caused the Deuteronomie to be written in stoanes He caused bothe the Blessinges and the Cursses of God to be pronounced He spake openly to the people and fraied them from Idolatrie Al these were cases not of Ciuile Policie but of Religion S. Augustine saithe In hoc Reges Deo seruiūt sicut eis Diuinitùs praecipitur in quātum sunt Reges si in suo Regno bona iubeant mala prohibeant non solùm quae pertinent ad Humanam Societatem verùm etiam quae ad Diuinam Religionem Herein Kinges serue God as it is commaunded them from aboue in that they be Kinges if within theire Kingedome they commaunde good thinges and forebidde euil not onely in thinges perteininge to Humaine Felovveship or Ciuile Order but also in thinges perteining to Goddes Religion Yée maie see therefore M. Hardinge howe handsomely so euer wée proue our maters that ▪ of your parte hitherto thei are but vnhandsomely coursely answeared The Apologie Cap. 11. Diuision 7. Kinge Dauid when the whole Religion of God was altogeather brought out of frame by wicked Kinge Saule brought home againe the Arke of God that is to saie he restoared Religion againe and was not onely amongest them him self as a counseller and furtherer of the woorke but he appointed also Hymnes and Psalmes put in order the companies and was the onely dooer in setting foorth that whole Solemne Triumphe and in effecte ruled the Priestes M. Hardinge As Dauid restored all thinges to good order after the euill Kinge Saule so did Queene Marie redresse disorders before committed But as Queene Marie did it by the meane of Priestes so Kinge Dauid in priestly matters called for Sadoch and Abiathar In deede Dauid passed other Princes herein because he had the gifte of Prophecie whereby he wrote Psalmes whiche to this daie we singe But all this maketh nothinge to proue him Iudge of Spirituall matters He did not vsurpe the Auctoritie to Sacrifice to discerne the lepre and to doo the like thinges of Priestly charge The B. of Sarisburie Kinge Dauid yee saie restoared Religion by meane of the Priestes Nay verily M. Hardinge for by meane of the Priestes the Religion vtterly was decaied Therefore yée spoile that Moste Noble Prince of his woorthy prayses and geue them to others that neuer deserued them The Holy Tabernacle was broken and loste the Arke of God was keapte not in the Temple but in a Priuate mannes house the people had no common place to resorte vnto to heare Goddes VVil they had eche man his owne Priuate chaple in their Hilles and Groaues Dauid therefore called the Bishoppes Priestes togeather He shewed them in what sorte the Religion of God was defaced he willed them to bring the Arke into Sion he was presente him selfe he appointed and ordered the whole Triumphe He assigned whiche of the Leuites and in what order they shoulde serue before the Arke He alloted Aarons Children whiche were the Priestes to walke eche man in his seueral office So likewise it is written of Kinge Salomon touchinge the same Kinge Salomon accordinge to the decree and order of his Father Dauid appointed the Offices of the Priestes in their seueral Ministeries and the Leuites eche man in his Order that they shoulde praise God and minister before the Priestes For so Dauid the man of God had commaunded Likewise it is written of Kinge Iosaphat He appointed and ordered the Leuites and Priestes Thus then did these godly Princes and thus dooinge they vsurped not the Bishoppes office but onely did that they lawfully mighte doo and apperteined wholy vnto them selues Where yee saie Dauid was a Prophete and not