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A04474 A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie. Jewel, John, 1522-1571.; Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. Answere to Maister Juelles chalenge. 1565 (1565) STC 14606; ESTC S112269 1,001,908 682

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whole face In the olde times when the Sacrament was keapte in Cheastes in Naptekins in Baskettes and in Priuate Houses there was no danger of Adoration But vnder the Canopie wée sée not onely that the effecte hath fallen out farre otherwise but also that the very cause thereof was at the first to the contrarie For so saithe Linwoode him selfe Citius repraesentatur nostris aspectibus Adoranda It is the rather offered vnto our sightes to be woorshipped If there were no cause els yet is this it selfe cause sufficient to abolishe this new order of hanging vp the Sacrament vnder a Canopie For therefore the Kinge Ezechias tooke downe the Brasen Serpent and brake it in peeces notwithstanding God had specially commaunded Moses to erecte it vp bicause he saw it abused to Idolatrie Againe they them selues vpon smaller considerations haue vtterly abolished the manner of Reseruation that was vsed in the Primitiue Churche For they wil not now suffer neither Lay people nor Wemen to kéepe it in their houses nor Boyes to carrie it to the sicke as then the Boye did to Serapion nor Infidels or men not Christened to were it about them as then did S. Ambroses brother Satyrus I leaue the Ruste the Moulde the Canker the Bréedinge of wormes whereby that holy and reuerende Mysterie of Christes Death is oftentimes made lothesome brought into contempte They them selues doo testifie that suche thinges not onely may happen but also haue often happened It is saide that Alphonsus the Kinge of Arragon for the preseruation of his honour safetie so longe keapte the Sacrament aboute him that at last it putrified breadde woormes which when they had eaten vp and consumed one an other in the ende there remained onely one great woorme that was the last and had eatē al his felowes In suche cases they commaunde that the woormes be burnte and the asshes buried in the Aulter The Glose it selfe vpon the Decrées saith thus It is not necessarie to keepe the wine And the Reason is this Quia opus esset nimia cautela Bicause wee shoulde neede to haue to muche a doo with the keepinge of it In the Councel of Laterane it is confessed that the Sacramente so kepte hath beene abused Ad horribilia nefaria facinora To woorke horrible and wicked deedes And M. Hardinge him selfe confesseth that for certaine like abuses the same Reseruation was in some parte abolished in the Councel of Bracara To be shorte touchinge the Canopie Linwoode him selfe findeth faulte with it as it appeareth in the Prouincial For thus he writeth Dicitur quòd in Ioco Mundo singulari debet seruari It is saide The Sacrament ought to be keapte in a cleane seueral place sequestred from other Whereunto he addeth thus Ex hoc videtur quòd vsus obseruatus in Anglia vt in Canopaeo pendeat non est commendabilis Hereby it appeareth That the order that is vsed in Englande of hanginge vp the Sacramente in a Canopie is not commendable Here M. Hardinge hath causes bothe in general why al manner suche Reseruation ought to be Misliked and also in special why the Canopie can not be liked M. Hardinge The .3 Diuision If Princes be honoured with cloth of estate Bishops with solemne thrones in their churches and Deanes with Canopies of Tapistrie Silke and Arras as wee see in sundrie Cathedral Churches and noman finde faulte with it why should M. Iuel mislike the Canopie that is vsed for honour of that Blessed Sacrament 172 wherein is conteined the very Bodie of Christe and through the inseparable ioining togeather of bothe Natures in Vnitie of person Christe him selfe very God and very Man with what face speaketh he against the Canopie vsed to the honour of Christ in the Sacrament that sitting in the Bishoppes seate at Sarisburie can abide the sight of a solemne Canopie made of Painted Bourdes spreade ouer his head If he had beene of Councel with Moses Dauid and Salomon it is like he would haue reproued their iudgementes for the greate honour they vsed and caused to be continued towards the Arke wherin was cōteined nothing but the Tables of the law Aarons rodde and a pot ful of Manna Kinge Dauid thought it very vnsittinge and felte greate remorse in harte that he dwelte in a house of Cedres and the Arke of God was put in the middes of skinnes that is of the Tabernacle whose outwarde partes were couered with beastes skinnes And now there is one founde amonge other Monstrouse and strange formes of Creatures manners and Doctrines who beinge but duste and ashes as Abraham saide of him selfe promoted to the name of a Bishop and not Chosen I weene to doo high seruice of a Man accordinge to Goddes owne harte as Dauid was thinketh not him selfe vnwoorthy to sitte in a Bishops Chaire vnder a gorgeous testure or Canopie of gilted bourdes and can not suffer the pretiouse Bodie of Christe whereby we are redeemed to haue for remembrance of Honour doone of our parte so muche as a little Canopie a thing of smal price 173 Yet was the Arke but a shadowe and this the Bodie that the figure this the truethe that the Type or signe this the very thinge it selfe As I doo not enuie M. Iuel that honoure by what right so euer he enioyeth it so I can not but blame him for bereuinge Christe of his honour in this Blessed Sacrament The. B. of Sarisburie Princes vse to sitte vnder a Cloth of Estate Bishoppes and Deanes vnder painted Thrones or Cloth of Arras Ergo saithe M. Hardinge The Sacrament ought to be hanged vp vnder a Canopie I trow It is not lawful for al men to vse suche argumentes In such sorte Durandus reasoneth The Arke of the Couenant was caried by the Leuites Ergo The Pope must be caried alofte vpon the Deacons shoulders And againe they séeme by practise further to reason thus The Pope is caried vpon mens shoulders Ergo The Sacrament must be caried before him whither so euer he goe vpon a faire white Iannet And where as it liketh M. Hardinge thus merily to sporte him selfe with Bishops sittinge vnder Painted Bourdes Certainely I recken it muche fitter for the Churche of God to haue Painted Bourdes then Painted Bishoppes suche as he is that claimeth to be the Bishop of al Bishoppes and yet doothe not in déede any parte of the office of one Bishop The Bishoppes Chaire or Stalle was appointed at the first as a place most conuenient for him to reade to preache in But what néedeth more Suche vanitie of woordes should not be answeared For the rest God him selfe commaunded Moses to make the Tabernacle and also shewed him in the Mounte in what order and forme it should be made Neither durst Moses or his Workemen to adde or to minishe or to alter any one thing of their diuise or to doo any thing more or lesse otherwise