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A43889 The manner how statutes are enacted in Parliament by passing of bills collected many yeares past out of the iournalls of the House of Commons by W. Hakewil ... ; together with a catalogue of the speakers names. Hakewill, William, 1574-1655. 1641 (1641) Wing H211; ESTC R11690 31,133 168

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