Democratical the Government of these Deligates is Oligarchical they being chosen out of the wealthiest of every County and both these put together make up a Pol ty as Aristotle calls it but as Plato whose termes differ from Aristottles 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 To prove the erection of this unlawful they much labour but that toyl of theirs might very well have been spared The people of this Land have in all ages had a supreme power over their King and Lords which was exercised by their Representatives who by old Lawes were to meet twice a year and by a latter Statute once a year though the Tyranny of wicked Kings had brought that of late into a disuse Which prescription notwithstanding cannot take away the Peoples right It s vulgarly said That no prescription lies against the Kings Exchequer much less can a prescription lie against the People who are greater then the Prince and for whose sake the Prince hath that priviledge Dicores quatuor esse in quibus sita est tota vis Majestas Reipublicae nimirum Jus Magistratuum creandorum Deliberationes omnes de Pace de Bello Legum lationes tandèmque Provocationes Donatus Janottius de Repub Venetâ pag. 59. Speed Book 5. Chap. 5. Suma imperii bellique administrandi communi concilio commissa est â—assivellauâ—e Nostro adventu commoti Britani hunc toti bello imperióque praefecerant Caesar Commenter lâ—b 5. Spe. d. lib. 7. cap. 1. S. 6. saith Junius Brutus The form of Government is that which dat esse operari as Non-scribers say and natural order and reason requires that propriae operationes propriae formae respondeant if therefore it be proved that the Representatives have ever had de jure a power to do the Acts proper to the supreme power it will follow that the supreme power was formally in them and that they were a Common-wealth having supreme Authority in themselves Let me here use the words of a learned Florentine I say saith he that there are four things in which the whole power and Majesty of every politique body is placed the power of creating Magistrates all deliberations concerning Peace and Warre making of Lawes and the last appeales If therefore the Representatives of the people have had the right to create all general Magistrates to consult of Peace and Warre to make and abrogate Lawes and the priviledge of the last appeal to be made to them they have been the supreme power That they have had these Rights I shall prove and begin first with Creation of Magistrates Julius Caesar before whose entrance into this Island the times are obscure through whose mists no Eagles eyes can pierce as the beloved Historian of Non-scribers Speed confesseth found the supreme power of electing Magistrates in a Common-Councel of the people The chief power of Rule and administring the Warre was by a Common Councel committed to Cassivellauâ—e And again the Britâ—ains being troubled at our landing set him that is Cassivellaune over the whole Warre and Empire The Common Councel then that made Cassivellaune King and General was a Tan-Britanicum an Assembly representing all Britain And when the Romans quitted their tooting here the Britains being invaded by the Picts joyntly united their meanes and powers and with one consent elect a King to manage those affairâ—s which was Vortigerne whom afterwards they deposed and elected his Sonne Vortimer But I must for further satisfaction in this point refer them to the Authour of the Rights of the Kingdom who after many Examples of such Creation of Kings concludes thus We see the Law at lest the â—ustom of those times both for electing anointing judging and executing of Kings themselves among our British Ancestors Conceâ—ning our Saxon Ancestors saith the same Authour the Minor is very clear that they did elect or chuse their Kings from among themselves who well agrees therein with the witness of Tacitus Rights of the Kingdom p. 55. Rights of the Kingdom p. 35. Reges ex nâ—bilitate duces ex virtute sumunt Tacitus de moribus Germanorum Soveraign Power of Parliaments part â— p 78. Soveraign Power of Parliaments part 2. p. 41. Soveraign Power of Parliaments part 1. p. 91. who speaking of the ancient Germans of whom the Saxons were a branch saith they chose their Kings for their Nobility their Leaders for their vertue which Testimony informs us that they enobled some for their vertues and out of them chose their Kings Concerning the Normans I have spoken already To conclude with the Testimony of Mr. Prinne who tells us That our Parliament and Kingdom observe the opposition anciently have both claimed and exercised a Supreme Power over the Crown of England it self and that we may be sure what he meanes by Parâ—iament in another place he saith out of Fortescue Chancellor of England in Henry the sixth's time that Kings were created and elected at first by the general Votes of the people from whom alone they receive all their lawful Authority having still no other or greater lawful power then they conferred on them only for the defence of Lawes Persons Liberties Estates and the Republicks welfare which they may regulate augment or diminish for the common good as they see just cause Neither did the setting of Kings over them divest them of the supreme power it self if Mr. Prinne while a defender of Parliaments may be credited I doubt not saith he but our Parliaments Kings and all other Nations would say they never intended to erect such an absolute eternal unlimited Monarchy over them and that they ever intended to reserve the absolute original soveraign jurisdiction in themselves that if their Princes should degenerate into Tyrants they might have a remedy to preserve themselves An impregnable evidence that the whole Kingdom and Parliament representing it observe what is a Parliament the Representative of a Kingdom and then not the Lords that represent no body are the most Soveraign power and above the King because having the supreme jurisdiction in them at first they never totally transferred it to the King but reserved it in themselves I should tire my Reader should I say all that might be said concerning the Commons Creation of other Magistrates Soveraigâ— Power of Parliaments part 2. p. 7. Mr. Prinne brings in Sir Edward Cook affirming that the Lord Chancellor Treasurer privy Sealâ— Lord chief Justice Privy Councellors Heretoches Sheriffs with all Officers of the Kingdom of England and Constables of Castles were usuâ—lly elected by the Parliament to whom of ancient right their election belonged who being commonly stiled the Lord Chancellor Treasurer chief Justice c. of England not of the King were of right elected by the Representative body of the Realm of England to whom they were accountable for their misdemeanors Rights of the Kingdom p. 77. 78. 2. All consultations of Peace and Warre of right appertain to the Commons of England It was the great Councel saith the Authour of the Rights
of the Kingdom that treated with and against the Romans at all times and when the Romans could not attend the Britains feare it was this that called in their Neighbours first and after the Saxons All military Affairs saith Mr. Prinne of the Kingdom heretofore have originaâ—ly of right for their original Soveraign power of Parliaments part 2. p. 5. determining councelling disposing part bin ordered by the Parliament the Ministerial only by the King The Act of 28. E. 1. settles the Militia in the subject saith Mr. Derham and addes the absolute and general power of the Militia and the Militia positive or regulated by positive Lawes Manuel of the Rights of Parliament p. 95. 98. are both by Law invested in the people or the Representative body the Parliament And again the same Authour whose whole book tends to vindicate the supreme power of the Peoples Representatives saith We may safely conclude that the Subjects right and consequently of their Representative body to dispose of the Militia and great Offices of the Kingdom remaineth yet undoubted to this day In a word neither King nor Lords joyntly nor severally had any power to mould or manage a new Militia or raise a man or leavy a farthing towards the payment of an Army before the Commons by their Legislative power had decreed a Warre the proportion of Men and Horses to be raised and of money to be leavied so that though we grant the King and Lords as Heretoches c. to have had an executive power as General Colonels Captains c. yet the Commons ever had power to decree Peace and Warre and the supreme power over these their Ministers 3. The interest of the Commons in the supreme legislative power hath been evidenced already out of the Coronation-Oath to which may be added that of Fortescâ—e Soveraign Power of Parliament part 1. p. 38. quoted by Mr. Prinne The King who is head of that politique body cannot change the Lawes of that body neither can withdraw from the said people their proper substance without their wills and consents for such a King â—f a Kingdom politique is made and ordained for the defense of his Subjects Lawes and of their Bodies and Goods whereunto he receiveth power of his people so that he cannot govern his people by any other Law Rights of the Kingdom pag. 89. The Authour of the Rights of the Kingdom tells us that if we look to the old Writ of Summonâ— we shall find the Commons called ad consentiendum faciendum and the old Writ added quod quilibet omnes de Comitatu facerent vel faceret si personaliter interessent as it is in the modus of Parliament with sufficient intimation that without the Commons nothing could be done which the late Writ expresses thus Ita ut dicta negotia infecta non remaneant pro defectu potestatis but the Lords are called de quibusdam arduis tractaturi consilium impensuri c. only as Councellers not as Law-makers for the very same words are in the Writs for Judges and others coming to Parliament although they do not vote in making Laws Soveraign power of Parliament p. 47. 51. of the first part Ibidem part 1. pag. 43. And if it should be replyed that Statutes are said to be enacted by the King and Lords as well as the Commons I shall answer that the Kings consent is required ex debito by vertue of his Office to every Law the Commons make and he cannot alter one tittle of it nor hath he any negative voice in matters of common Justice and that Laws might have been made if all the Lords had been absent as Mr. Prinne telleth us from Vowel whereas the Commons were neither bound to give consent to what the King and Lords proposed nor could the King and Lords act any thing without their consent 4. The priviledge of the last appeale was de Jure the right of the Commons Mr. Prinne calls the Knights Soveraign power of Parliament part 2. p. 24 Citizens and Burgesses of the Parliament the supreme Councellers and Judges of all others to whom all other Courts Councellers Officers Judges are responsible for their actions judgements advice Appeales arise either from obscurity of Lawes and who so fit to interpret Lawes as they that make them or from new cases not yet by Law determined and then the Legislative power must only interpose or from the corruption of officers and errors in judgement and then none are so fit to judge as they who have the Fountain-Power and derive it to all other Officers Thus having shewed that the supreme power hath appertained of râ—ght to the Representatives of the people it will follow that the Common-wealth of England is not a thing of yesterdayes erection but the Common-wealth which hath heretofore been doth now more clearly appear we have the proper fundamentalls of our most ancient Government still standing the alteration or abolishing of some Offices and names of Magistrates Commutatis Magistratuum nominibus atque officiis non statim alia Respublica est dum vissumma imperii primáque potestas illa ut ita dicam mens qua corpus omne movet atque continet una maneat atque eadem Grotius Epist Dedic ante libellum de Antique Reipub Batavicae Nec essentiam Reip Romanae concidisse quis dixerit cum exactis Regibus Majestas ad Optimates transiret Jacobus Lampadius Tract de Repub. Romano-German par 1. S. 60. Plea c. pag. 27.28 Plea c. pag. 29. doth not make a new kind of Government as long as the supreme primary power and the soule as I may call it which moves and quickens the whole politique body remains one and the same Let no one say saith a learned politique Councellor of the Duke of Brunswick's that the essence of the Roman Common-wealth perished when the Kings being driven out the Majesty passed to the Optimates much lesse is a new form of Government erected where the Majesty remains in the same Subjects that ever it did The Kings power being but executive the Lords judicial both but fiduciary and upon trust the Common-wealth laying them both aside for breach of trust can no more be said to have changed its Government and erected a new one then a Master of a Family that turns away a wasteful Steward and some other unfaithful Servants and fulls thriftily to deconomize himself can be said to change the form and nature of his Famiâ—y-Government From what hath been said it appeares 1. That the House of Commons had a power to lay aside the King and House of Lords in case of breach of trust 2. That their power by taking of them away is not lost that house being as a soule to the body without whom the King and House of Lords were a liveless trunck and could do nothing 3. That the power which at present they enjoy is that wherewith they were invested by the people
assertion I have shewed before Kings of politique kingdoms as England was in Fortescue's Judgement cannot change the Laws 2 Chronicles 21.10 Soveraign power of Parliaments Part. page 37. but the people are to be ruled by Laws only of their own making If the Representatives of the people have by the Law of nature a power over their Magistates and have exercised in it almost all Nations and the legislative power in England rests in them they had a power sufficient to take away the King and House of Lords and the powers that are taken away by their lawfull superiors are noe Power nor doth any tye lie upon their quondam Subjects to obey them What they adde ex abundanti Eccles 5.1 2 3. Plea c. page 41. Rom. 13.7 to prove the power of King and Lords still to remain is from such abundance as their sacrifice is whose voice is known by a multitude of words indeed meere Battology They say 1. The sanction of that Government from God is not disanulled they busie themselves to find out a way how it may be said to be dissolved I shall tell them Obedientia limitari semper debet secundùm limites potestatis quam habet superior praecipiens Medulla Theol. lib. 2. cap. 17. Thes 54. Plea c. page 42. God commanding obedience to powers commands to give every one their due and learned Ames will tell them that obedience ought alwayes to be limited according to the limits of the power of the superior commanding whence he concludes that the bond of obedience to an inferiour power ceases when the superior power commands it not to be obeyed We may safely conclude then that the Sanction of obedience to King and Lords is disanulled by the taking away of their Offices by the Representatives of the People of England their lawful Superiours 2. They would perswade us that the original constitution of the people in King Lords and Commons coordinate is not made void But the people never constituted such a Lordly King and Kingly Lords as they dream of they never gave them a joint power with themselves Non-scribers are pittifully mistaken in saying that the people chose their Delegates to consult and concurrently act with the King in Parliament They were chosen ad faciendum as the writ of Summons speakes to make Lawes for Kings and Lords as well as others not to be only Councellors or concurrent actors with them For their Reasons which they say they would produce to prove that it is unlawful for a people to depose their supreme Magistrate they would be very impertinent at the present for the supreme Magistrate is not deposed as long as the House of Commons stands and I doubt unconclusive unlesse they fully answer what Mr. Rutherford and Mr. Prinne two of their own friends have said in asserting the peoples power in that particular 3. Lawes say they are not repealed that give the sway of Government to certain persons and their issue To which I answer that such Lawes Plea c. page 43. if such there were are at lestwise virtually repealed in the Acts for taking away the Kingly Office and House of Lords and such repeales are lawful the whole legislative power being in the Representatives of the people who as an House are above all our common Law and positive Statutes and may change alter and abrogate them as they see most rationally convenient for the publick utility of the people These things considered engaging will appear nothing contrary to the Scriptures they quote page 37. The Senate was above Caesar and our Representatives of greater power then the Roman Senate the Parliament and people are the highest power No King is dishonoured by a Tyrants deposition no Ordinance of God is violated since God never ordained Tyranny in Exercise more then in Title Non-scribers are the men given to change who joyned with the Parliament in Armes against the King ere a while and one of the highest Acts of Soveraignty is the voting and making Warre and now are ready to joyn with his hopeless brood against the Parliament Plea c. page 44. In Judaeos Mahumeristas sub Christianism◠latitantes exerceri solet Grotius Antiqu Reip. Bat. c. 6. Paul Servita History of the Inquisition page 12. Their second Argument to prove that they are preingaged is grounded upon their Oathes Protestations Covenants Of which they affirm 1. Their contrariety to the Engagement 2. Their unremitted obligation In the entry to the answer of this Argument I cannot but observe that Non-scribers make the same use of the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy Protestation and Covenant which the Spaniards make of the Inquisition-Office which being at the first erected for the purging out of Jews and Moores professed enemies to Christianity is now used for the keeping out of all power of Christianity from coming amongst them so those Oaths and Obligations which were at first imposed to secure us against the enemies of our State and to discover Priests Jesuites and Cavaliers are now urged in the favour of a party who hath interwoven their interest so with that of the Romanists and Malignant Royalists that should they be observed with Non-scribers interpretation our Religion and Liberties are likely utterly to be subverted at lest-wise we should be put into as dangerous contests for them as we have through Gods assistance waded through in our late commotions Should we grant them that those former Engagements are opposite to the Engagement which well may be denied in the proof of which negative some of late have worthily travelled yet it will not thence follow that the Engagement is unlawful if it may be made appear that the obligation of them is ceased Non-scribers confess Plea c. page 52. that an Oath may be rendred void 1. By the revocation of a Superior having lawful power in the matter of the Oath The lawfulness of the superiority of the Peoples Representatives over the King c. hath been proved and if they had power over the Powers to whom the Oath is made so that they might lawfully divest them of their power they had power over allegiance the matter of the Oath Neither is this power of theirs over the matter of the Oaths weakened by any thing that Non-scribers say For 1. Notwithstanding the Oath of Supremacy acknowledges the King to be supreme Governour yet the Parliament and Kingdom are the supreme power paramount to him saith Mr. Prinne He was the supreme executioner of publick justice had a supreme executive power but not a supreme legislative power Soveraign Power of Parliaments part 1. pag◠104.105 that still was retained by the Representatives of the people To this we may adde what Mr. Prinne saith that the supremacy given to the King relates to the Popes and forraign Princes Authority formerly usurped not to Parliaments and their jurisdiction with whom Mr. Rutherford well agrees who scaning how the King is called supreme saith he is