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A34083 Lex talionis, or, The Law of marque or reprizals fully represented in the case of spoyls and depredations upon the ships, goods and factories of Sir William Courten and his partners in the East-Indies, China and Japan : whereupon letters patents for reprizals were granted under the great seal of England to continue effectual in the law against the States General of the United Provinces and their subjects ... : together with three several proposals of the creditors, to the King, and their answer (in a postscript) to the Lord Chancellour's arguments upon the scire facias brought by Sir Robert Sawyer ... concerning the letters patents aforesaid. Carew, George, Esq. 1682 (1682) Wing C549; ESTC R33340 30,399 34

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faithfully stated for satisfaction of all persons concerned GEorge Carew of Richmond in the County of Surrey Esq Administrator of the Goods and Chattels of Sir William Courten Knight deceased with his Will annexed having contested at the Hague and Amsterdam after the Kings Restoration for the space of fifteen Months concerning the Spoils and Depredations upon Sir William Courten's Ships and Factories A Provisoe was made in the fifteenth Article of the Treaty concluded at LONDON between the King and the States General the 4th of September 1662. that satisfaction and reparation should be made by the East-India Company of the Netherlands for the two Ships named the Bona Esperanza and Henry Bona Adventura with their Freights and Lading In pursuance of the said Treaty Carew having Expended and Disbursed divers great Sums of Money both in Holland and England without effect he was prompted by several Ministers of State at Whitehall to Address himself by Petition to the Commons in Parliament in the year 1664. for Relief who referred the same to the Committee of Grievances accordingly Sir Tho. Clifford then Chairman of the said Committee after Examination of all the Papers and Depositions concerning this Case brought in by Sir Thomas Littleton Reported that the Loss and Damages amounted to the Sum of One Hundred and Fifty Thousand pounds Sterling and upwards hinting at the evil consequences thereof to the Honour and Interest of the Nation if those Damages were not satisfied and repaired unto the Families of Sir William Courten and Sir Paul Pindar who had merited so much from the Crown and Kingdom Soon after a War insued whereupon the Commons Voted to assist the King with their Lives and Fortunes unto whom they granted several Millions of Money for the Prosecution thereof In the Month of May 1665. the Cause concerning the said Spoils and Depredations which had been debated in the Admiralty in Council and in Parliament was reduced to a certainty for satisfaction by Letters Patents for Reprisals under the Great Seal of England wherein Sir Edmund Turnors Name is used in Trust Carew having the Interest in Law on the behalf of himself and others the Dutch Ambassador then Resident in England had notice of all the proceedings as it is recited in the body of the said Patent which passed through the greatest Offices of Trust in the Kingdom upon mature Consideration The Warrant for passing the said Patent issued out of the Lord Arlingtons Office then Principal Secretary of State containing two clauses for continuance of the Grant until the Debt of 151612l with Damages should be recovered which was debated three Months by the Lord Chancellor Hyde before it passed the Great Seal Sir William Turnor and Sir Robert Wiseman the Kings and Dukes Advocates general being often consulted therein affirmed That it was consonant to the Laws of Nature and Nations that the said Debt and Damages should be satisfied and repaired A President thereof being shewn under the Great Seal in the late Kings time in the Case of Paulet a Merchant who had the like Letters of Reprisals against the Spaniards to continue effectual in the Law until the Debt and Damages should be Reprised who upon a Peace made with Spain had the remainder of his Debt unsatisfied In the year 1666. Carew and the Creditors claiming under him procured several Duplicates and Exemplifications of the said Letters Patents and put the same in execution by deputations against the Hollanders who Trading in divers Bottoms under the colours of Sweeds Hamburgers and other Neighboring Princes and States in Amity with England the very charges of equipping out private men of War could not be gotten the Ships brought in for Prizes being reclaimed and restored as by the Rigister of the Admiralty Court appears However Sir William Coventry then Secretary to his Royal Highness complaining That those special Letters of Reprisal obstructed the Lord High-Admirals profits of Tenths by Letters of Marque in time of War that the Kings Ships were deprived of Seamen A Proclamation issued out the 10th of August 1666. to suspend the Execution of the said Letters Patents protempore Notwithstanding his Royal Highness was gratified with a Months Tax for his Heroick Courage at Sea In the year 1667. a Peace was concluded at Breda whereby all Letters of Reprisals were mentioned to be revoked whereupon the said Carew and the Creditors remained passive until the year 1671. when another War was proclaimed the King having particularly owned this Cause declaring That he was obliged in Iustice and Honour to see that Debt and Damages mentioned in the Letters Patents aforesaid to be satisfied and repaired the Lords of the Privy Council having also affirmed That all past Treaties were absolutely cancelled as if no such Treaties ever had been made Then the said Carew was dispatcht away with Orders of the Councel Table Referrences and Instructions with the Kings Letters to his Ambassadors and Plenipotentiaries to insist upon plenary satisfaction and Reparation in any Treaty to be made with the States The King expressing in his Leters under his Sign manuall his care to protect his Subjects in their just Rights as well as to assist them in the recovery thereof In the Month of August 1672. It so hapned that Carew and his Servants were Imprisoned by the States of Holland as Spies for seeking after Justice and detained close Prisoners without access and threatned with Death during the War which ended in a common Alliance in the year 1674. upon the consideration of Eight hundred Thousand Patacoons inter alia to be paid to the King in four years for Damages yet three parts thereof were assigned to the Prince of Orange and the fourth part received for other services by Alderman Backwel upon his Majesties account but the Debt and Damages ascertained for the Spoils and Depredations aforesaid was left in statu quo to the remedy at Law prescribed In the year 1680. divers of the Creditors of Sir William Courten Sir Paul Pindar and Sir Edward Littleton having importuned the said Carew to put in execution the said Letters of Reprisals since they had no satisfaction either out of the Prizes taken by the Kings Ships during the War nor out of the said Patacoons or any other waies or means whatsoever notwithstanding their several Addresses to the King the States and the Prince of Orange for that purpose Then Carew being advised that several Writs at Common Law in case of a Spoil at Sea lay against the Subjects of Forraign Princes and their Goods found in England until the Statute of Edw. the third provided that the only Remedy should be by the Law of Marque or Reprisals without Fraud or Deceit for all Damages upon Spoils which being ascertained and reduced into a Grant under the Great Seal of England became such an Interest vested in the Grantees coupled with an Authority that could not be taken away without satisfaction made to the Parties interessed and injured And further advised That Soveraign
Admiralty of all such Ships Goods Wares Merchandizes as shall be taken from the said States General or any of their Subjects by Virtue of this Commission or shall otherwise receive Satisfaction of the Debt aforesaid by Composition to be made between those of the East India Company of the Netherlands and the said Sir Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns as aforesaid ☞ Notwithstanding it may so happen the present Difference between Us and the States General depending upon General Reprisals may be agreed and composed and that in the Interim a Peace and good Correspondance may be renewed between Us and the said States General In which Case Nevertheless it is Our Will and Pleasure That in the Execution of this Our Commission no Violence shall be done to the Persons of the said Subjects of the States General but only in Case of Resistance and that after in cold Blood the said Subjects of the said States General if hurt or Wounded shall be used with all convenient Office of Humanity and Kindness ☞ And Further Our Will and Pleasure is That although it shall happen That all Hostility between Us and the States General and Our respective Subjects shall cease yet this Our Commission shall remain and be in full Force and Power to the said Sr Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns as aforesaid by Virtue thereof to apprehend take and seize by Force of Arms so many more of the said Ships and Goods of the said States General or any of their said Subjects as besides the said Summ before mentioned shall countervail satisfie and pay all such Costs and Charges as the said Sir Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators or Assigns as aforesaid shall from time to time make proof to have disburst and paid towards the Equipping Manning Paying Furnishing and Victualing of the said Ships so licensed and authorized as aforesaid by this our said Commission to be Equipped Manned Payed Furnished or Victualed by the said Sir Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns as aforesaid for the Purpose aforesaid And Our Will and Pleasure is and We do hereby require Our Iudge or Iudges of Our High Court of Admiralty for the time being and all other Officers of the Admiralty and all other our Iudge or Iudges Officers Ministers and subjects whatsoever to be aiding and assisting to the said Sir Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns as aforesaid in all points in the due Execution of this Our Royal Commission and to proceed to Adjudication and to adjudge all ships Merchandizes Moneys and Goods by Virtue thereof to be taken and proved to belong to the said States General or any of their subjects to be Lawful Prize to the said Sir Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators or Assigns as aforesaid according to Our Princely Intention hereby signified and expressed and to take Care that this Our Royall Commission be duely executed and favourably Interpreted and Construed in all respects to the Benefit and best Advantage of the said Sir Edmond Turnor and George Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns as aforesaid In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patents Witness Our self at Westminster the 19 day of May in the 17 Year of Our Reign Per ipsum Regem Barker Nota That there is due to the Estates of Sir William Courten and Sir Paul Pindar the Summ of Two hundred Thousand Pounds sterling and upwards from the Crown of Enland for Moneys lent to the late King upon several Branches of the Revenue before the year 1640. towards the ordinary Charge of the Crown the greatest part of the said Money being taken up at Interest and still standing out and due to several Orphants and Widows who claim their proportionable Shares of the Debt and Dammages mentioned in the Letters Patents aforesaid Memorandum THat King Charles the First found it necessary to put Sir William Courten and his Partners upon Trading Voyages to the East-Indies China and Japan unto whom he gave a Charter under the great Seal of England for the prosecution thereof in the Year 1635. That his said Majesty incouraged Sir Paul Pindar and others to advance divers great Sums of Money as Adventurers in that Expedition and Enterprize That Sir Edward Littleton and others Interessed before the Kings most happy Restoration being under the Notion of Delinquents and Sequestration durst not appear openly against the States and their Subjects for Common Iustice concerning satisfaction and reparation for the Spoyles and Depredations That Sir William Courten and Sir Paul Pindar strained their Credits so far by borrowing several great Sums of Money both of Natives and Strangers to carry on this affair That there is not a County nor Corporation in England Wherein there are not either Original Creditors or their Relations at this time Complaining for their Debts It is inconsistent with the Honour and Interest of the King and Kingdom under all the Circumstances attending this Case to let the History of such Oppression remain upon Record when the Creditors have made their humble Proposals to his Majesty that Lyes before the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury and Mr. Secretary Jenkins for relief upon easie Terms even out of the Foundations that Sir William Courten and Sir Paul Pindar laid The Royal Word of a KING being past and confirmed under his Great Seal That his Grant should not be Obliterated until Satisfaction and Reparation to the Grantees in this Case there ought to be an Inquiry made Whether the Parties Grieved be Satisfied and Repaired and also that they may be duly heard before this Grant be any ways called in by Ministers or Officers of State to be Cancelled and made Null It being repugnant to the Laws of God the Laws of Nature the Statutes of this Realm and even against the Laws of Common Humanity that a particular Interest so ascertained and secured should be taken away from Private persons for a Common Good and not be Satisfyed and Repaired either out of the Publick Purse or suffered to Reprise their Satisfaction and Reparation for the Wrongs and Injuries done them by the Subjects of Holland and Zealand without the Danger of being Hanged as Pyrates and Felons for asking their OWN Three Humble Proposals of the Creditors of Sir William Courten Sir Paul Pyndar William Courten Esq and David Goubard Humbly offered to the KING That in consideration of the Debt and Damages of 151612 l. contraded by the Spoils and Depredations upon the Ships Goods and Factories of Sir William Courten Sir Paul Pyndar and their partners in the East-Indies for which Letters Patents for Reprizals were granted under the Great Seal of England to continue effectual in the Law until the said sum of 151612 l. with Costs and Damages should be recovered and received which is become a Debt incumbent upon the Crown if his Majesty
in his Speech to both Houses of Parliament and expressed in the very body of the Patent in these words For relief of Our said Subjects whom We take Our selves in Honour and Iustice concernd to be satisfied and re-paid So that the King declares Himself equally Great and Just. Therefore neither surprized nor deceived in this Grant of Reprizals that had passed the Test of all the chief Officers of State and Trust in the Kingdom whose Judgments are Arraigned by questioning the validity of the said Grant The reasons are very obvious to all Mankind that the Patent ought to be so worded until the Debt and Damages shall be recovered and received for that there is no other remedy for the Subjects relief but such Grants grounded upon the Law of Marque after Justice denied in the Case of a Spoil This Clause of continuance distinguisheth between general and particular Reprizals the one being an Act of War the other a Process at Law and out of the King's Power to obstruct the restitution of this Debt and Damages to the persons interessed and injured otherwise the remedy would prove a Grievance after such vast Expences in ascertaining the Debt and Damages according to the Rules of Law if the Grant should not be obligatory It is in the Power of the States of Holland or the King to satisfie this Debt and Damages to make good the King 's own words and preserve His Honour and Justice entire which ought to be kept Sacred and Inviolable And if the King cannot pardon the least Trespass when sued for reparation in the ordinary Course of Law à fortiori He cannot pardon a Spoil after a Judicial Grant to recover it according to the Laws and Statutes of the Realm General Letters of Marque in time of War are ambulatory and revokable at Pleasure being usually granted to all persons in all Nations that will ask for the same to weaken the Enemy as they did at Oast-End Dunkirk Flushen and Diep in the times of War between Spain and England France and England and Holland and England and those are called Privatters or Private men of War of whom the Lord High-Admiral hath a tenth part of all Prizes And these are the Letters of Marque the Lord Chancellor so often mentions in his Arguments whereof there are hundreds of Precedents in the Courts of Admiralty in England Holland France and Spain which are Temporary Grants and determinable at Pleasure or certain days prefixt under the Seal of the Admiralty By the sacred prescriptions in Holy Writ restitution is to be made double the value of the property injuriously taken which implies the Charge of Prosecution and if the Trespasser be not able to satisfie he shall be Sold for his Theft or kept for a Ransom Upon this ground the old Writs in the Register and F. N. B were made and our Ancestors were so careful for the preservation of every English-mans Right and Property and the encouragement of Navigation and Commerce That Merchants Strangers resident in England and their Goods were Arrested by those Writs for satisfaction of Injuries done at Sea by the People of that Kingdom or Nation that did the wrong whereof they were Subjects But upon the Petition of the Merchants Staplers and others to the Parliament in the 27th of Edw. 3. c. 17. The force of those Writs were taken away and it was ordained and Enacted by the same Parliament That all Persons Spoyled at Sea shall have the Law of Marque without fraud or deceipt that is of taking the value of the Loss and Damage again Bracton Says Quod nihil aliud potest Rex in terris cum sit Minister Dei Vicarius quam solum quod de jure potest Every Man hath a Right to Justice and every Subject of England having a Fundamental property in his Goods and a Fundamental liberty of his Person It is repugnant to the Laws of God Religion and Property to take away our Goods for reason of State without price or satisfaction he is not a Subject but a Slave that suffers his Substance to be taken from him against his Will Infinite are the Arguments that may be used and deduced from the Law of Reason and Natural Justice in the vindication of this Patent However its neccessary to answer the Lord Chancellour Gradatim to his Arguments aforesaid His Lordship was pleased to say That the Chancery had an Admiral Iurisdiction by the Statute 31. Hen. 6. cap. 4. for the speedy relief of Strangers Robbed at Sea by the Kings Subjects His Lordship would here beg the question and have all Mankind to take it for granted That those who Act under this His Majesties Royal Charter and Authority are Robbers and Theeves Notwithstanding the express words in the Patent That it shall be lawful for them to recover the said Debt and Damages although a Peace for General Reprizals concerning the Dominion of the Sea should be concluded It s true the said Statute of Hen 6. provides a remedy for those that have safe Conduct and are Robbed by the Kings Subjects The Lord Chancellour calling to him any of the Judges of either Bench who upon Bill of Complaint shall cause Restitution to be made of Ships and Goods to the parties grieved This Statute may be still in Force but not practicable since the Odious and Arbitrary power of the Admiralty Court was taken away by the Statute of Hen. 8. in the 28th year of his Reign for Tryal of Piracy by Jurors according to the course of the Common Law However the Statute of Hen. 6. recited by his Lordship comes not to this case upon the Scire Facias But it s enacted and ordained by the Statute made in the 20th year of Hen. 6. cap. 1 And several other Statutes of this Realm That all Letters of safe Conduct Treaties and Leagues of Amity and Alliance shall be Inrolled of Record in Chancery or else not to be of any Force or Effect in the Law And the Treaty at Breda being not Inrolled or made any matter of Record in Chancery whereby the Kings Subjects might have recourse thereunto cannot any ways affect this grant to Turnor and Carew And many proper Officers have lost their Heads in former ages for their miscarriages not inrolling in due time such publick Treaties Leagues and Alliances It s also true as the Lord Chancellour observes the Letters Patents to Turnor and Carew were granted in time of War for an injury done to private Persons in time of peace but provided that no Subsequent peace should affect it without a recovery or satisfaction to be made for the Debt and Damages either by force of the Grant or Composition made with the Persons interessed The Fiat passed in the month of May 1665. But the proceedings that brought it to that conclusion continued de die in diem ever since the Treaty of Alliance made in the year 1662. Wherein it was concluded and agreed That the said Debt and Damages so assertained and Liquidated
for the time being to be Aiding and Assisting to Turnor and Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns and to take care that all things shall be favourably interpreted and construed in all respects to the benefit and best Advantage of the said Turnor and Carew their Executors Administrators and Assigns Witness himself at Westminster the Letters were made Patents the 19th day of May in the 17th year of his Reign Now how the Actions and Proceedings of several Ministers and Officers of the Admiralty and other Mercenary Mortals do quadrare with the Kings Honour and Iustice that have Issued out Warrants in the Kings name to apprehend and seize the Persons and Goods of his Majesties Subjects detain them in Prison and Irons until they were Tryed as Fellons and Pyrats for duly acting under his Majesties Royal Commission and Charter grounded upon the Laws and Statutes of England Whereby they were found innocent and accquitted Yet afterwars detained for Exhorbitant and Extrajudicial Fees of Registers and Marshalls of the Admiralty is left to any Mankind to Iudge Conclusion THe Commons of England in Parliament in the Preamble of their Acts acknowledging their thankefullness to His Majesty for His aboundant care in their preservation at Sea and the great charge necessary for the defence thereof granted to the King at several times during the two last short Wars between England and Holland the Sum of Five Millions Four Hundred and Forty Thousand Seven hundred and Fifty Pounds Eleven Shillings and Eight Pence Sterling Money For extraordinary supplies toward the said Wars whereof His Royall Highness the Duke of York received 120902 l. 15 s. 8 d. being one Months Tax as a present for his Heroick Courage at Sea This vast Expence of Treasure occasiond by the Hollanders gave hopes to the Kingdom for greater returnes than that only Debt of 151612 l. Liquidated and assertained for satisfaction That reason of State was depraved in the Lord Treasurer Danby who parted with 600000 Pattacons the price of so much English Bloud and Treasure out of England to the Prince of Orange that reaped the benefit of his Ancesters Offices and Honours by the last War besides his tributes as Lord High Admiral of the seven Provinces out of 1500 Ships and their Ladings taken from the English by the Dutch Capers having his general Letters of Marque during that War There was no necessity therefore for those great Ministers H. Finch C. S. Latimer Ormond Arlington H. Coventry and Marquess del Fresno to suffer the Debt of 151612. and Damages to remain incumbent upon the King or the States when treble the value of that Debt was offered to the English Ambassadors in the year 1673. at Cologne besides another Sum of Money in gross for the Fishries upon the English Coasts to purchase a seperate peace with England Divers Polliticians remarking the English Administrations of State and Justice Blushed for several miscariages in our later days Wherein the due course of Law hath been Obstructed Strangers and others suffered to eat our Bread and have disgested the very Bloud of many hundred Orphants and Widows Some by Imbeaziling the spoyls of Wars others in detaining our Monies and Goods All men in Office turning deaf Ears to our Complaints forgeting the Kings Honour and that Justice which Establisheth the Thorne and Exalts the Nation being unmindful of those very periods in his Majesties Speech to both Houses of Parliament on the 24th of Novemb. 1664. as follows Mr. SPEAKER ANd you Gentlemen of the House of Commons I know not whether it be worth My pains to endeavour to remove a vile Iealousie which some ill Men scatter abroad and which I am sure will never sinck into the breast of any Man who is worthy to sit upon your Benches That when you have given me a Noble and proportionable Supply for the Support of a War I may be induced by some evil Councelors for they will be thought to think very respectively of my own Person to make a suddain Peace and get all that Money for my own private occasion But let me tell you and you may be most confident of it that when I am compelled to enter into a War for the Protection Honour and Benefit of my Subjects I will God Willing not make a Peace but upon the obtaining and securing those ends for which the War is entred into and when that can be done no good Man will be sorry for the determination of it How far the Plea and the Judgement given upon the Demurrer concerning the 151612 l. will be reconciled to the Kings Speech or the Law of the Land is left to those Members of both Houses that heard it to resolve if any man can be safe in his Rights and Properties under such presidents as these which calls to my mind the Old Addage of Sir Fulke Grevil Lord Brook in his time Mankind is both the Form And matter wherewith all Tyranies transform For Kings can neither see act nor devise Without the Peoples Hands Hearts and Eyes And were not man by himself opprest Kings would not Tyrants could not make him Beast FINIS
extinguish Letters of Marque and that for the Reason aforesaid The King having the Power of Peace and War Mr. Carew cannot be a good Subject to involve the Publique by executing these Letters of Marque in times of Peace who as I am informed had 30 Ships out in time of War And the Clauses contained in the Patent that no Peace shall extend to the prejudice of the said Letters Patents before satisfaction was a Clause unusual and incerted by surprize and ought not to have been and is in no sort obligatory Wherefore I give Iudgment That the Letters Patents shall be brought into Court to be cancelled and the Enrollment thereof razed ☞ The Argument turns upon his Lordship the King being sole Legislator of Peace and War The Clause of continuance in the Patent hath the force of an Act of Parliament His Lordship would be both Judge and Party and sole Arbiter if a Writ of Error did not lie in the Kings-Bench and finally in Parliament to reverse his Erroneous Iudgment A Copy of the Order in Chancery Veneris 26 die Maii Anno Regni Caroli secund ' Regis tricesimo quarto Inter Dom ' Regem Quer ' Edmund ' Turnor Mil ' Georg ' Carew Ar ' Defend ' Lord Chancellor THe Record of the Demurrer joyned in the Pety-Bag upon a Scire facias brought by Mr. Attorney General on the behalf of His Majesty for revoking certain Letters of Reprizal granted to the Defendents the 19th of May 1665. coming this present day to be argued before the Right Honourable the Lord High-Chancellor of England by vertue of an Order of the 20th instant at which time the Record was read The Defendents Councel desired longer time But upon hearing of Mr. Attorney-General on the behalf of the King his Lordship declared that the matter in debate did concern the Publick and could not admit of any further day to be given to the Defendents And his Lordship having been attended with the Record and duly considered the whole matter is of opinion and doth order That the said Demurrer do stand and that Iudgment be entred up for the King for the revoking the said Letters Patents and doth further order That the Enrollment thereof be vacated upon Record and that the Defendants do forthwith bring into this Court the said Letters Patents and all Exemplifications and Duplicates thereof under Seal to be cancelled Ex. Per George Edwards Deput ' Register On the next morning the Lord Chancellor was pleased in open Court to give order that the Attorney-General should be careful in drawing up the Judgment and that the Clerk of the Pety-Bag should enter it upon the Roll aud exemplifie the whole Record under the Great Seal and send it to the Admiralty-Court to remain there It may be observed That the Scire facias being returned in Easter-Term 1681. and the Plea filed of the same Term and the Demurrer coming in not before Easter Term last the Attorney-General had a whole year to consider of the said Plea which is admitted as to the matters of Fact in all particulars by the said Demurrer and since sworn to be true by one of the Defendants So that the Attorney-General making no Reply insisted only upon the Law The Questions therefore that do naturally arise upon it are Whether the Scire facias be a Legal and warrantable Writ in this Case for the Lord Chancellor to ground his Judgment upon for repealing the Letters Patents without satisfaction so solemnly obtained under the Great Seal of England according to the Laws of the Land or Whether the Plea be not sufficient in Law to support and maintain the Letters Patents until the Debt and Damages be recovered BUt before we come to answer the Lord Chancellor's Arguments it 's absolutely necessary to speak a word or two concerning the Scire facias and the Order entred by the Register that the Defendents should bring the Letters Patents and all Exemplifications and Duplicates thereof under Seal into Court to be cancelled It 's recited in the Record made up pro restitut ' faciend ' Carolo tunc Comiti Salop al' in eisdem Literis Patent ' c. whereas there is no such Patent as is mentioned in the Scire facias Notwithstanding it 's affirmed in the said Order of the 26th of May 1682. That his Lordship had been attended with the Record and duly considered the whole matter and yet in the second Line of the said Record it 's written Carolo tunc Comitis Salop whereas in the Letters Patents for Reprizals it 's mentioned for restitution to be made to Francis Earl of Shrewsbury and others So that the Foundation being bad the Structure must fall to the Ground there being no such Patent as the Scire fas ' recites Whereupon a Distringas is since issued forth to the Sheriff of Mid. to distrain all the Lands and Tenements of George Carew within his Bayliwick until the said Patent Exemplifications and Duplicates thereof under Seal be brought into Court and cancelled which is impossible for him to do being out of his power the said Duplicates and Exemplifications being in the hands of several Persons beyond the Seas with Assignments and Covenants that they shall continue effectual in Law until the Debt of 151612 l. with Damages shall be recovered and received according to the words of the Grant and the King's Declaration Wherefore it would be both Honourable and Just for any Ministers of State in England or Holland to bring the Scire facias in one hand and Money to satisfie the Debt and Damages in the other And without that Quid pro quo under his Lordship's favour the Patent cannot be legally revoked repealed or made void Yet for satisfaction of all Mankind that the Defendents will abide by their Plea they have retained their Councel to give modest Answers to the Lord Chancellor's Arguments as followeth who holds it convenient to begin at the root where his Lordship ended That the Clause of continuance was unusual and incerted by surprize and ought not to have been and is in no sort obligatory 1. The stipulation for extinguishing all other Losses and Damages by the Treaty 1662. from the like Sovereign Remedies 2. The States denyal of making satisfaction for the Spoils and Depredations of those two Ships according to the said stipulation 3. The Services and Sufferings of Courten and Pyndar for the Crown of England so eminently known to all Parts of the World 4. And the great Supplies given to His Majesty in Parliament for the Protection of His Subjects at the very time the said Patent for Reprizals was passing through Sir Heneage Finch's Office when he was Solicitor-General upon the Negotiation of Mr. Gilbort Crouch were four invincible Arguments for the King to pass this Grant of common Right to his Subjects with those two Clauses of a continuando until the Debt 151612 l. wi●h Costs and Damages should be recovered and received the King having declared so much