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A25572 The Answer to the appeal expounded L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. Answer to the Appeal from the country to the city. 1680 (1680) Wing A3385; ESTC R16973 34,388 37

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about us But what were these People all this while If we may credit the Appellant they were Priests and Iesuits Or at least Papists But the King tells us they were Brownists Anabaptists and Other Sectaries Preaching Coachmen Felt-makers c. The Act for Indempnity gives us a List of the Regicides The Act of Uniformity stiles them Schismatiques and throughout the whole History of their Acts and Ordinances there appear none but Dissenting Protestants The Church of England being the Only Sufferer betwixt the Two Extreams And these People had the Interest of the Two Crowns in prospect too which the Appellant descants so Jollily upon Almost every Pulpit promising Salvation to the Fighters of the Lords Battels against the Lords Anointed with a Cursed be He at the End on 't that doth the work of the Lord Negligently Upon the Third Head he says that most Princes Believe or Disbelieve the Information which is given them of a Plot according to the Nature of the Evidence and Credit of the Informants There is no more in This than that most Princes Believe upon the Common Inducements that move all men of Reason whatsoever to Believe Viz The Probability of the matter in Question and the Credit of the Witnesses Now as to the Popish Plot we shall give him these Two Points for Granted but without discharging a Plot likewise on the Other hand upon the same Principles and no less pregnant Evidence We do not speak here of the Popish Plot which the Papists would most sillily have turn'd upon the Presbyterians the shallowest Contrivance certainly that ever was hatch'd and the most palpable Imposture But we speak of a Plot that was Bred and born in the Fanatical party whereof we have as many Witnesses almost as Readers in Forty Libels of That Leaven and Extraction Beside several Open and Violent attempts upon the Government which do unanimously bear Testimony against them The Following parts of This Paragraph are wrought into such a Complication of Zeal and Scandal one Snap at the King and another at the Plot that every period is a Bait And whoever touches upon it is sure of a Hook in his Nostrils Under Colour of Asserting and making out the Truth of the Plot which no sober man doubts of he throws Dirt upon his Majesty and his Ministers for dodging and Imposing upon the People in favour of it One while too Much comes out another while too Little The Frequent Dissolutions and Prorogations of Parliaments he says expresly were to prevent the Tryal of the Lords And so the Squib runs sputtering on from the King to his Privy Councel Thence to his Courts of Justice and in One word the whole Story comes to no more than a Political abstract out of Harris's Domestick Intelligence But why these Pamphlets to the Multitude First There 's no fear of the peoples running into Popery For 't is their Horrour and Aversion Secondly There 's no need of Convincing Them of the Truth of the Plot But rather to keep them from Extravagances upon the Jealousies and apprehensions they conceive of it already Thirdly There 's no need neither of calling Them to our assistance toward the suppressing of it For the sifting and Examining of this Conspiracy with the bringing of the Confederates to Publique Justice is a great part of the business of the Government So that these Libels cannot be reasonably understood to have any Other than these Two ends First To Teaze and Chafe the Rabble into a Rage disposing and preparing them to entertain any occasion for uproar and Tumult Secondly When their Bloud is up against This Detestable Plot with the Contrivers Promoters and abetters of it what does he but turn the Rancour of That Outragious Humour upon the King Privy Councel Courts of Justice and Briefly all his Friends by marking Them out for Parties in the Treason And so rendring his Majesty and his Government Odious by these Malicious Insinuations and endangering the Peace of the Publique to the Highest Degree The Fourth and Last Argument says he which may sometimes prevail with the Prince to disbelieve any report of a Conspiracy is taken from the Nature and Principles and from the In●erest of the Pretended Conspiratours But neither of these Motives can pretend to Influence Our Prince into a Disbelief of This Popish Plot Fol. 7. The Appellants Observation and Inference is this that the Popish Plot is to be Believ'd because it squares with the Principles and Interest of the Party We are better informed in the History and Doctrine of Massacres and Regicides then to question the Malice of the Jesuitical Positions or the credibility of the Plot here in Debate and so we shall yield him in the Hellish Tenet which he insists upon of Murthering KINGS and a Hellish Tenet it is indeed and as Hellish undoubtedly in a Schismatique as in a Jesuit For his Quarrel otherwise is to the Faction not to the Maxim which is equally Dangerous and detestable in all Factions Now wheresoever we find the same Principles we have the Appellants leave honestly to suspect the same Designs Was not this the Doctrine of the Fanatiques from Forty to Sixty And did they not make good their Doctrine by their Practise Did they not declare the King Accountable to the People And did they not put him to Death upon that Foundation We have the very Journals themselves of those Times to prove what we say beside the Damned Harmony of their best received Authors to that purpose We propound say the Remonstrants that the Person of the King may be speedily brought to Justice for the Treason Bloud and Mischief he is Guilty of An Act says another agreeing with the Laws of God Consonant to the Laws of Men and the Practices of all Well-order'd States and Kingdoms Let Justice and Reason blush says another and Traytors and Murtherers Parricides and Patricides put on white Garments and Rejoyce as Innocent ones if this man speaking of the Late King should escape the hands of Justice and Punishment The Government of England says a Fourth is a Mixt Monarchy and Govern'd by the Major Part of the Three Estates assembled in Parliament Whensoever a King says a Fifth or other Superior Authority Creates an Inferior they invest it with a Legitimacy of Magistratical Power to punish themselves also in case they prove Evil Doers It is Lawful says a Sixth for any who have the Power to call to account a Tyrant or wicked King and after due Conviction to Depose and put him to Death if the Ordinary Magistrate have deny'd to do it Detrahere Indigno c. It is not for private persons to Depose a wicked Governour but that the Universality of the People may Lawfully do it I think no body questions These Seditious Positions with many more and some worse perhaps were publiquely Printed and avow'd before his Majesties Return And the very same Principles with Pestilent Additions to them have
Sessions of Parliament therefore an enemy to the Government by Parliament (m) Not upon the King but such as advise him to it for we all know that the King can do no wrong (n) Since the Appeal first came out hath not Dangerfield discover'd many new Plots in order to the carrying on of the old one (o) Here he disguises himself and would be thought a Protestant forsooth (p) By this I guess he had a hand in the late forg'd Plot. (q) None of these Principles are in the Appeal therefore not to his purpose (r) Private malice of some Relation of that Person whom the Bishop had hang'd after promise of pardon revenged his bloud upon the Bishop so as the whole Party is not to be blamed (s) Because the unarm'd Scotch Rabble took up Arms against some few that oppressed them and made a declaration of their grievances therefore he would have us forget the Popish Plot that is in England (t) Not upon that score do we think him banish'd but upon some false furmises suggested to his Majesty by his Popish Enemies although they did it with that design (u) Witness Willoughby's Relation Witness the Priests daily taken All this is but to lull us asleep for them to devour us (w) This is apparently false for the words are The first hour you hear of the King 's untimely end which I think supposes the King's Murder and may be so understood by any but our Clodpate Author (x) If King James when he had secret notice of the Gunpowder-Treason had seem'd to disbelieve it this Answerer would have esteem'd it the part of a good Subject to have been quiet and suffer'd the King and Parliament to have danced in the Air rather than to have been so presumptuous a Presbyterian as to prevent it by a clamour for Justice against the Popish Traitors (y) Here he tells you his design which is That when the Papists have murder'd the King it may be laid upon the Presbyteriant (z) Sure as can be our Author here was to have been one of the Evidences in this feign'd Presbyterian Plot. a I 'le lay my life he is painted in some of these Characters if not in all that make him so out of humour with this description b Here be pleas'd to observe that he divides the Kingdom but into two parts the on● as he says consisting of Mutiniers and Schismatiques by whom he has all along mean● no other than Fanatiques the other party of Loyal Servants and Subjects of the Government into which Classis he must by consequence design to rank the Papists for that he ●e● no room for them elsewhere c See how bravely he pleads here for our Client the Conclave any thing for money he can Fiddle to all Governments d Polemical discourse Anglicè Scolding or Billingsgate is the whole Argument of this Book e All against poor Protestants and not one censure of the Papists this is too gross examine his Faith by his Works f He forgets Secretary Windebank's Orders in savour of them g Only in that place signifies no more but that had it not been for Popery all had been quiet h Did not Aaron himself the High-Priest turn and comply with the Peoples Idolatry in helping them to a golden Calf what has been may be again i For that the Separatists as he calls them were then in most danger k Machiavel who was perhaps as old though not so wise as this Scribler plainly shews that England can never long continue a Republick by reason of the ●oo great corruption and scarcity of publitk Spirits in the Nation l As who should say this Author loves Monarchy for Popery's s●ke m Still for the Papists n Not worth God-a-mercy o All this is in behalf of Popery p The consequence extended further than at first design'd q Dr. Du Moulin will satisfie any in this matter r Since this Appeal came forth the late feign'd Plot justifies all this upon the Papists notwithstanding our impotent Scribler lays all upon the Fanatiques to clear himself and his Party s This Story in the Appeal was unanswerable and therefore not to his purpose t As if half a hundred Priests would set thousands of silly people together by the ears u It may be policy requires them to let some few die rather than discover their Power at present w He makes the Papists invisible and fictitious Evidence and defames the Kings Evidence x Very true for how could Dr. Oates say they had done it before they had we all agree that he only mentions their design which was effected long since he gave in his Evidence y Because not required but many can justifie it upon Oath z So call'd because many of the Officers were Papists a The Parliament chiefly desired their disbanding so as he accuses them for being privy to the Scotch Insurrection b This tacit Confession is as improper an expression as exposition c Who knows but many of them were Papists in disguise like our Author however they might like Pontius Pilate deliver him up to be crucified and then wash their hands of his death d This is an Answer to his own former Parallel wherein he goes to vindicate the Papists by accusing the Fanaticks e Howbeit he here endeavours to justifie the French's ill usage of his Majesty yet being unable to disprove our Civilities to the French as false he takes no notice of it f The danger of the Kings person ' Religion and Government by reason of the Plot together with the many Jesuitical Fires loss of Trade and danger of the French power are none of them Calamities to our Author who would rejoyce at them as being a Papist and would therefore have us think them all imaginary and remote till they really happen g All this page is V●x praet●rea n●h●l nothing but florid nonsence wherein he compares the fear of his Majesties death to the fear of Corns and Chilblains h Meaning the Duke's death the King 's surviving and the Duke's conversion as if no man must take care for the future because there is a bare possibility of succeeding without it i Still harping upon the same string so that this Pamphlet is nothing but Tautology and Popery A man would guess that this Author was once so near hanging as to have a Presbyterian Rope about his Neck that makes him so much inveigh against them k Did our Pr●nces never live in France l Because one King was as he says murder'd by Protestants therefore our Author would have us fear them more than the Papi●ts who have murder'd many so partial is a Pap●st in his own cause m Male dum recitas incipit esse tuum you your self apply it n I wish he had here shew'd us some example of a Prince ruin'd by over-caution or shew'd us some Argument why the Duke of Burgundy had come to the same end if he had credited the Kings admonition abund●us