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A31185
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The Case of the stanneries stated with the grounds and reasons of their petition to the honourable House of Parliament, together with the answers to severall objections that are usually made against them, humbly proposed.
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1650
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Wing C1167; ESTC R34794
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the price then currant of 28 l. per 1000. d. to the Tynner and 2000 li. to the King but within a few yeareâ— after thaâ— the gaine of the sole Emption and transportation of their Tyn came to be felt and understood by the Merchants Preemption was advanced to 8000. p. per annum and so grew higher and higher as the times grew worse with some petry increase of price to the Tynner till it came to 14000 â— per annum and more and so continued till the expiration of the late Farmers Pattent which was since the beginning of this Parliament There remaines onely two or three Objections more to be answered One is That Tyn is a Royall Myne because it hath a mixture of Silver in it Answ There is not an ounce of Silver in many thousand weight and the Judges of England have resolved it to the contrary in Star-Chamber as appeares in Cookes Iurisdict of Court and yet it were heretofore a favour and for the Tynners advantage to suffer his base Metall to goe under the name of a Royal Mine so it might receive the same Justice For the King had buâ— a fifth pâ—rt by Prerogative of all Royal Mynes whereas a third paâ—t hath been taken ouâ— of the labours of the Tynnes by the horrible abuse of Preemption 2. Another great Objection is That if the Tyn weâ—e out of Farm and at liberty the Tynner would bee but a prey to every Merchant and the Tynners by under-selling one another would quâ—ckly destroy themselve and all Tyn working Answ This Objection though it be countenanced by wise men is yet a Mystery and it must necessarily argue a great weaknesse and want of Common discretion in the Tynner above other men to dispose of his goods to his best advantage from whence this must proceed otherwise why should not the same mischief and inconvenience befall those that trade in Fish and other not so choice commodities as this peculiar to this Kingdome and that County alone But secondly this inconvenience never followed but upon a glut of Tyn as is before sayd but there is no ground for this feare now when the quantity is so small that the Manufactures of the Kingdome as are able to imploy neer the whole bulk of Tyn that is made in the yeare as it is at present Thirdly admit that this would follow thereupon cannot the Tynners being a Corporation of themselves contract with some few Merchants at such a price that they may have the Managery and trade of Tyn but that not onely Merchants but prices must be imposed on them and for this favour of making a â—argaine and sale of their goods there must be one halfe or a third part of the value of their goods defaulked for a Revenue this is such a grievance and misery which no Subjects of England groanes under besides the Tynner and then which t is beleeved there is no particular oppression cryes lowder in the eares of the Parliament nor which in its redresse by them will give a clearer demonstration to the Kingdome that they really intend to break every yoake and to let the oppressed goe free Another great Objection is that this Concession of Lâ—berty and Freedome to the Tynner would be with the losse of a gâ—eat Râ—venue to the State as the Tynners taking leave of late hâ—tâ—â—lâ—st the State all manner of Revenue for this yeare last past To this it is answered First in generall if by Revenue be meant that ancient Custome of 40 s. per 1000 d. before expressed they are very willing to pay it still with all the Faâ—mand Toll Tyn and other profits anciently payable out of the Stannaries but if by it be meant all that Revenue which grew by prevention revived and heigâ—tned since these last and worst times and for which many Kings of England never received a peny if that be sound to have the same bottome and foundation with other grievances taken away and be â—ith râ—an abus'd Prerogative or a Monopoly â—is beleeved no profit or advantage can prevaâ—le with the justâ—ce of Parliament from bringing it under the same Law But secondly 't is certaine tâ—e best way to advance a Revenue â—o the State is by giving the Tynner the best incouragement for then there will be the more Tyn dig'd and wrought and consequently the more mony payd to the State for the Dutchy dues Exise and Custom whereas if they should be discouraged and kept under by oppressions this is unavâ—ydably like to follow that knowing they cannot bee compelled to worke for Tynne and cannot live poorer in any tâ—ade that they quite give over their working in Tynne and betake themselves to other imployments as they have done in Devon already which would of it selfe destroy all manner of Revenue together with that ancient and staple Commodity peculiar to this Kingdome and that County onely and be an utter ruine to many thousand Families in England whose livelyhoods depend on the Manufactures of that Commodity And as to the losse of all manner of Revenue for the last yeare let the blame be charged where it will lye it cannot be reasonably charged upon the Tynner who never denyed to submit to a Farme for a time till the Parliament should determine their Rights if they might have a confiderable price But being denyed such a price together with the Coynage of their Tyn and the acceptance of the ancient dues though tendered their necessities notwithstanding inforced them to sell which because they could not do in open Market without Seizure and Forfeiture â—o their best Merchants they were glad to sell it to any and so lost in the price of every hundred weight more then the price of the ancient Dutchey dues amounted to though they never sold it so low but it was for much more then was offered and to be payd by the Farmers And now if it be demanded what will satisfie the Tynner all he desires at length is but that it may be declared that he hath and shall have free liberty and right to dispose of his owne Tyn to his best advantage and consequently may not be under any restraint in price or from the Farmers by Preemption or the Pewterers or any other more then other Natives Their next desire is for the advantage of the State that Coynages at the accustomed times and places may be appoynted that so dues may be received and payd Many lesser Grievances there are in weights and other things which time and Tyranny his contracted upon them which they desire may be regulated by a Convocation called among themselves by Order from the Lord Warden FINIS