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A40689 The sovereigns prerogative and the subjects priviledge discussed betwixt courtiers and patriots in Parliament, the third and fourth yeares of the reign of King Charles : together with the grand mysteries of state then in agitation. England and Wales. Parliament.; Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. 1657 (1657) Wing F2467; ESTC R16084 264,989 306

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dorchester_n be_v the_o lord_n carleton_n mr._n selden_n deliver_v likewise_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o pardon_v interline_v and_o raze_v by_o the_o lord_n bishop_n of_o winchester_n sir_n john_n elliot_n here_o be_v high_a treason_n upon_o oath_n a_o deposition_n upon_o oath_n a_o opposition_n be_v not_o in_o law_n to_o be_v admit_v for_o here_o be_v not_o only_o a_o admission_n but_o a_o invitation_n of_o certificate_n for_o defence_n and_o allow_v to_o sway_v the_o case_n of_o so_o high_a a_o nature_n that_o therefore_o the_o party_n that_o make_v the_o affidavit_n and_o mr._n attorney_n may_v be_v examine_v to_o make_v a_o better_a disquisition_n in_o this_o for_o i_o fear_v the_o intimation_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o winchester_n sway_v too_o far_o with_o mr._n attorney_n be_v matter_n true_a or_o false_a the_o neglect_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o attorney_n be_v not_o to_o be_v excuse_v i_o be_o much_o grieve_v to_o see_v his_o majesty_n mercy_n run_v so_o ready_o to_o these_o kind_n of_o person_n and_o his_o justice_n so_o ready_o upon_o other_o trifle_v occasion_n nay_o upon_o no_o occasion_n nay_o upon_o no_o occasion_n only_o the_o misinformation_n of_o some_o minister_n mr._n attorney_n be_v by_o writ_n to_o attend_v the_o lord_n house_n can_v be_v enjoin_v to_o attend_v this_o house_n or_o to_o appear_v upon_o warrant_n wherefore_o mr._n littleton_n and_o mr._n selden_n be_v of_o the_o same_o inn_n of_o court_n have_v undertake_v to_o give_v notice_n to_o mr._n attorney_n that_o there_o be_v as_o accusation_n here_o against_o he_o he_o may_v here_o answer_v and_o satisfy_v the_o house_n on_o monday_n next_o saturday_n a_o bill_n against_o spiritual_a simony_n and_o a_o bill_n against_o buy_v or_o sell_v of_o place_n of_o judicature_n mr._n kirton_n move_v that_o a_o time_n may_v be_v appoint_v to_o take_v into_o consideration_n the_o business_n of_o tonnage_n and_o poundage_n sir_n walter_z earl_n second_v his_o motion_n that_o all_o the_o world_n may_v know_v that_o we_o will_v give_v to_o god_n that_o which_o be_v god_n and_o to_o cesar_n that_o which_o be_v caesar_n and_o to_o our_o country_n that_o which_o be_v they_o sir_n walter_n move_v that_o the_o merchant_n may_v have_v their_o good_n and_o that_o his_o majesty_n may_v be_v move_v therein_o it_o be_v order_v that_o the_o house_n on_o tuesday_n next_o in_o a_o committee_n shall_v take_v into_o consideration_n the_o business_n of_o tonnage_n poundage_n and_o all_o thing_n incident_a thereto_o mr._n shervill_n be_v nominate_v to_o take_v the_o chair_n of_o the_o committee_n sir_n rober_n phillips_n report_a from_o the_o committee_n for_o course_n of_o justice_n a_o petition_n of_o complaint_n be_v exhibit_v by_o mr._n noell_n a_o member_n of_o this_o house_n against_o sir_n ed._n moseley_n attorney_n of_o the_o duchy_n court_n and_o his_o man_n in_o point_n of_o injustice_n that_o