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A55936 The proceedings at the assizes holden at York, the 24th day of July, 1680, before ... Sir William Dolben ... and Sir Edward Atkyns ... then judges of assize for the northern circuit, against several prisoners then indicted for the horrid Popish Plot against the life of the King and for subversion of the government and Protestant religion : with an accompt at large of the arraignment of Sir Miles Stapleton ... , and of the tryal, condemnation and execution of Thomas Thwing for the same plot. Thwing, Thomas, d. 1680.; England and Wales. Assizes (York) 1681 (1681) Wing P3557; ESTC R24478 22,623 36

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Papist Thorpe No My Lord a Protestant of the Church of England Mr. Justice Dolben Have you never been in Newgate your Lane is full of such People and your House suspected Thorpe No my Lord. Mr. Justice Dolben Come have you done Thorpe Bolron came to my Lodgings at the Plow on Holborn-Hill before the last Assizes and told me if I would Swear that Peter Shipton knew no harm by Bolron he would do any thing for me Mr. Justice Dolben This is a Fable for Bolron bound Shipton over at the Sessions before the last Assizes Bolron Yes my Lord it was for scandalous words against his Majesty Thorpe He ask't me what Shipton was I answered he is an honest man for ought that I know I have taken his own Bond said Bolron but I will have him from Court to Court I will teach him to meddle with me Mr. Justice Dolben How came he to speak to thee Thorpe I know not why but it was his discourse to me Mr. Baron Atkins What acquaintance was there between you Thorpe I have seen him several times in Yorkshire Mr. Justice Dolben You live in Charter-House-lane how came you together in Long-Acre Thorpe I met him accidentally in the Street Mr. Justice Dolben It is a wonderful thing that he should meet one in the Street with whom he had very small acquaintance and discover such things to him as he did to you Then William Hardwick was Examined Hardwick I was to carry Mrs. Pressicks before Justice Lowther and Bolron's Wife said she was sorry for it for she believed her to be an honest Woman and had been a good Neighbour amongst them Mr. Baron Atkins Who was sorry Hardwick Mrs. Bolron Mr. Baron Atkins What did Bolron himself say Hardwick He said nothing to me he was in another Room with his Grandmother Mr. Justice Dolben taking notice of Thwing's speaking to Mr. Hobart demanded what he said Hobart My Lord he ask't me whether Bolron did not say that Sir Thomas Gascoyne offered him a 1000 l. I only say that he swore at Sir Thomas Gascoyne's Tryal Mr. Justice Dolben How doth it appear what he swore there Bolron I acquainted Mr. Lowther and Mr. Tindal with it Mary Walker was called Mr. Justice Dolben Mary Walker what do you say Mary Walker Robert Bolron came after Mr. Thwing was taken Prisoner to my Mistresse's Mr. Justice Dolben Who is your Mistress Mary Walker Mrs. Lassell's and he asked me if I knew Mr. Thwing to be a Priest and I told him No my Lord he told me that if I would swear that he was a Priest he would give me 10 l. for he would be revenged of him for Sir Thomas Gascoyne's cause for he was near of kin to him and he proffered me 10 l. again Bolron Where were you you were not here Yesterday Mary Walker I was in the Court yesterday Mr. Justice Dolben Where spoke he this Mary Walker At Mr. Lassel's Sir Thomas Stringer My Lord he was then searching for Preists at that House and it is improbable that he should endeavour at that time to suborn Thwing's Sisters servant Mr. Baron Atkins Is Mrs. Lassell's of kin to Mr. Thwing Walker Yes my Lord. Mr. Justice Dolben Who can beleive he would come to Thwing's Sisters-House to suborn her servant to be a Witness against Mr. Thwing Walker Yes my Lord I have Witness of it both a Man and a Woman Mr. Justice Dolben Where are they Walker In Town Mr. Justice Dolben That makes it more improbable that he would offer you 10 l. in the presence of two Witnesses to swear that Mr. Thwing was a Priest Sir Thomas Stringer Let us ask her a Question Whether are you a Papist or No Walker Yes I am a Catholick Sir Thomas Stringer Since it must be probable that he would ask you such a thing and knew you to be a Papist Is Thwing a Priest or no Walker No Marry is he not Sir Thomas Stringer Have you not heard him say Masse Walker No if I were to dye Mr. Justice Dolben Indeed you are an excellent Witness Mr. Legget One of the Kings Messengers produced as a Witness by the Prisoners was next Examined Mr. Legget In August last Mr. Bolron told me He would call his Grandmother in and examine her before me and he then ask't her if she did not say that she knew such and such things and she said she could not tell but if she did 't was true Mr. Baron Atkins What was it he askt her Legget About Harcourt and I know not what I took little notice of it it seem'd to be a thing so Idle that I went away And meeting me afterwards said you thought my Grandmother knew nothing but at the bar when Sir Tho. Gascoyne was tryed they said they never heard one swear a thing more plainly Mr. Justice Dolben Legget did not you desire Money yesterday of the Clerk of the Assizes as a Witness for the King Legget Yes my Lord. Mr. Justice Dolben Did you so you are a fine Fellow Then one William Bacchus was Examined Bacchus All that I can say is that I served a Warrant upon Mrs. Bolron to go before Esq Lowther and Bolron's Wise and Grandmother said they could say nothing against Sir Thomas Gascoyne nor any of the Family Mr. Justice Dolben Well they say nothing against them now but what did she say against Mrs. Pressicks Bacchus She said that Mary Pressicks should say that the King was an Whoremaster and maintained his Whores better then he did the Queen Cuthbert Hamsworth was then called Hamsworth being produced as a Witnesse for Sir Thomas Gascoyne owned that he had been a Papist Hamsworth My Lord Robert Bolron did Swear revenge against my Lady Tempest for prosecuting a suit against him Mr. Justice Dolben What is that to the matter in hand do you know that he swore Revenge against Thwing and Pressicks Hamsworth No my Lord. Mr. Bar. Atkins to the Prisoners what have you more to say Thwing My Lord he saith I was at Barnbow-Hall 1677. I have Witnesses to prove otherwise Mr. Baron Atkins Call them then George Twisley Groom to Sir Thomas Gascoyne Twisley Mr. Thwing was never at our house above a night or two in the year Mr. Justice Dolben Whose house is your's Twisley Sir Thomas Gascoyne ' s. Mr. Just Dolben He was there but a night or two at a time Twisley No and please your Lordship Mr. Justice Dolben But was he there in 1677 Twisley About a year or two since I saw him there Mr. Justice Dolben But how often in a 12 Months time Twisley Not above once or twice Mr. Baron Atkins Did you never go out of your Masters house in 1677 Twisley I have my Lord but I was there both night and morning Mr. Baron Atkins How do you know but he might be there in the time that you were not there Bolron And please your Lordship this man was but the Groom Twisley I was the Groom my Lord and took the
Rushton Thwing How often was I there Bolr. Several times I know not how often Thwing When was it you accused me first of the Plot Bolr. When I went to the Council I accused him Thwing He did not accuse me of the Plot in several months Sir Tho. Stringer Come Mr. Mowbray tell your knowledg Mowbray was Sworn Mr. Mowb. My Lord what I have to say is only against M● Thwing At an Assembly of divers Preists at Barnboro-Hall amonst the rest there were Father Rushton and Mr. Thwing and there they determined to kill the King Mr. Bar. Atkyns When was this Mr. Mowb. This was near Michalmass 1676 and they declared it was not only lawful but meritorious to do it They also declared that London and York were to be fired and that force was to be made use of against the King and all other Hereticks that should oppose the advancement of their Religion and Mr. Thwing and Rushton declared the King was an Heretick and excommunicated by the Pope and had not kept his promise with the Jesuites to bring in their Religion and therefore deserved to be killed and it was not only lawful but meritorious so to do Mr. Belwood of Council for the King Was there not a List Mr. Mowb. Yes a List of those engaged in the design of killing the King and of promoting the Catholick Religion and it was declared the King should be killed because he had not kept his promise made to the Jesuites when he was beyond Sea Mr. Just Dol. Did the Prisoner declare it Mr. Mowb. Mr. Thwing declared it and Rushton and he managed it Thwing Who was there Mowb. It was at Father Rushtons Chamber that I saw you and there was another Thwing there and also Addison a Preist Thwing I went once or twice a year to Sir Thomas Gascoynes and thought it my duty to wait on him and that I might without offence do it he being my Unkle Mr. Just Dol. No the offence is Plotting Sir Tho. Stringer Mr. Thwing do you know Rushton Thwing Yes but I had no great acquaintance with him Sir Tho. Stringer Mr. Mowbray how came you to be entrusted in so great a business Mr. Mowb. I assisted Father Rushton at the Alter at Mass and so came into great favour with him and was permitted to be in his Chamber when the Preists were in private with him Sir Tho. Stringer Mr. Mowbrary did you take an Oath of secrecy Mowb. Yes I took it from Father Rushton Thwing How long since did you change your Religion Mowb. Presently after the Plot broke out Thwing Who where you examined before first of all Mowb. Before Mr. Lowther and Mr. Tindal Mr. Just Dol. Did you at the first accuse him Mowb. I only charged Sir Tho. Gascoyne Esq Gascoyne my Lady Tempest Sir Miles Stapleton and Father Rushton in my first and in my second deposition I accused Mr. Thwing and that was before Justice Warcup Mr. Bar. Atk yns Did Thwing abscond at the first Mowb. He was apprehended at the same time Sir Tho. Gascoyne was apprehended and at his house Mr. Just Dol. Well what say you to Mary Pressicks Mowb. My Lord I have nothing to say against her Mr. Just Dol. Mr. Thwing you have heard the Evidence what do you say for your self Thwing I shall produce Witnesses I was never with him at Barnboro first I shall shew he never mentioned me when he first mentioned the Plot and he never said any thing against me when he accused Sir Tho. Gascoyne before Mr. Lowther and Mr. Tindal But Mr. Bonithen of Counsel for the King offering other witnesses for the King against Mrs. Pressicks they were called viz. Mrs. Bolron Senior Mrs. Bolron Junior and John Hutchinson Mr. Bolron Senior Sworn Mr. Just Dol. What do you know of Pressicks the Prisoner at the Bar Mrs. Bolr. Sen. My Lord she said she knew of the Plot and that Pickering was to have killed the King Mr. Bonithen Do yon mean shoot the King Mrs. Bolr. Yes I do Mr. Just Dol. Where did she tell you this Mrs. Bolr. At Shippon my Lord. Mr. Just Dol. At his house pointing to Mr. Bolron Mrs. Bolr. Yes and she said that she was very sorry that Pickering did not do it and that he had done it if it had not been for Oates and Bedloe Mr. Just Dol. Was this the very same time that Mr. Bolron speaks of Mrs. Bolr. Sen. Yes my Lord and she said there would never be quiet in England untill the Roman Catholicks had got the upper hand and there was not a Protestant left in England and she said the King spent his money amongst his Concubines and his other Women so that he was not worthy to be King and she hoped an Army of Catholicks would be raised to set up Popery Mr. Just Dolb. That is indeed the principle of the Papists and according to it within forty years past they murdered 200000 innocent Protestants in Ireland Did she say it often Mrs. Bolr. Yes several times more than once or twice Mrs. Bolron junior was then sworn and examined Mrs. Bolr. jun. I heard her say there was a conspiracy carrying on about altering the Government and establishing the Roman Catholick Religion Mr. Just Dolb. Where heard you this Mrs. Bolr. jun. In my Husbands house Mr. Bar. Atkyns And what were her hopes in the Conspiracy Mr. Bolr. My Lord I cannot tell Mrs. Pressicks I ask Mr. Bolron when we had this discourse Mr. Bolr. At several times about Candlemas 1678 and at Easter and Whitsontide and several times after the Plot was discovered we discoursed it several times at the porch at my house Mr. Just Dol. Who was present Mr. Bol. My Grandmother Mr. Just Dol. Where was it Old-woman that you heard these words Mrs. Bol. Sen. At Shippon in the Hall porch my Lord. Mrs. Pressicks Had we any discourse of Sir Thomas Mr. Bolr. Sen. None John Hutchinson was then Sworn Mr. Just Dol. Do you know any thing concerning Mrs. Pressicks Hutch May it please you my Lord I came to Mr. Bolrons house and Mrs. Pressicks askt me what news in our Country and what became of the Papists I told her some had given bond and some were gone to prison then she said we shall never be at peace until we are all of the Roman Catholick Religion for the King is an Heretick and spends more money upon his Whores then upon his Queen and we shall never be at quiet until the Duke of York is King Mr. Just Dol. What say you to this you have seen him Mary Pressicks I never saw him but twice there Mr. Just Dol. Where was she when she said this Hutch She first talkt with me in the Kitchen and at the Hall door as she was just going into the Parlour she told me that we should never be at quiet until the Duke of York was made King Mr. Just Dol. Mr. Bolron when came she to your House Bolr. She came to our house about