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A64083 Bibliotheca politica: or An enquiry into the ancient constitution of the English government both in respect to the just extent of regal power, and the rights and liberties of the subject. Wherein all the chief arguments, as well against, as for the late revolution, are impartially represented, and considered, in thirteen dialogues. Collected out of the best authors, as well antient as modern. To which is added an alphabetical index to the whole work.; Bibliotheca politica. Tyrrell, James, 1642-1718. 1694 (1694) Wing T3582; ESTC P6200 1,210,521 1,073

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land_n who_o be_v my_o liege-man_n now_o gather_v here_o together_o and_o have_v hear_v my_o appeal_n and_o godwin_n answer_n i_o will_v that_o in_o this_o appeal_n between_o we_o you_o decree_v right_a judgement_n and_o do_v true_a justice_n and_o upon_o their_o judgement_n that_o the_o earl_n shall_v make_v the_o king_n sufficient_a satisfaction_n in_o gold_n and_o silver_n for_o the_o death_n of_o his_o brother_n the_o king_n be_v thereof_o inform_v and_o not_o willing_a to_o contradict_v it_o the_o historian_n there_o say_v he_o ratify_v all_o they_o have_v judge_v i_o can_v give_v you_o many_o other_o precedent_n of_o latter_a date_n be_v it_o not_o too_o tedious_a but_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o what_o the_o p●ers_v act_v in_o this_o matter_n be_v by_o the_o king_n be_v sole_a will_n and_o permission_n i_o shall_v only_o conclude_v with_o one_o precedent_n more_o in_o case_n of_o some_o what_o alike_o nature_n it_o be_v that_o of_o hen._n spencer_n bishop_n of_o 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the_o power_n of_o any_o thing_n 1_o cor._n 6.12_o must_v signify_v force_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v signify_v authority_n and_o dignity_n thus_o ephes._n 1.21_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v several_a name_n and_o degree_n of_o dignity_n and_o authority_n as_o well_o as_o power_n and_o in_o the_o second_o place_n you_o do_v much_o more_o mistake_n when_o you_o suppose_v by_o this_o word_n power_n to_o be_v mean_v only_o the_o true_a or_o just_a exercise_n of_o civil_a authority_n whereas_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o person_n themselves_o who_o exercise_n authority_n and_o dominion_n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o ruler_n v_o 3._o the_o minister_n of_o god_n which_o bear_v the_o sword_n v_o 4._o in_o st._n peter_n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o king_n and_o his_o governor_n and_o magistrate_n 1._o pet._n ch._n 2._o v._n 13_o 14._o and_o 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