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A40660 Ephemeris parliamentaria, or, A faithfull register of the transactions in Parliament in the third and fourth years of the reign of our late Sovereign Lord, King Charles containing the severall speeches, cases and arguments of law transacted between His Majesty and both Houses : together with the grand mysteries of the kingdome then in agitation. England and Wales. Parliament.; Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. 1654 (1654) Wing F2422; ESTC R23317 265,661 308

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