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A77478	A review of the seditious pamphlet lately pnblished [sic] in Holland by Dr. Bramhell, pretended Bishop of London-Derry; entitled, His faire warning against the Scots discipline. In which, his malicious and most lying reports, to the great scandall of that government, are fully and clearly refuted. As also, the Solemne League and Covenant of the three nations justified and maintained. / By Robert Baylie, minister at Glasgow, and one of the commissioners from the Church of Scotland, attending the King at the Hague.	Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662.	1649 (1649)	Wing B467; Thomason E563_1; ESTC R10643	69,798	84

A REVIEVV OF THE Seditious Pamphlet lately published in HOLLAND by Dr Brambell pretended Bishop of London-Derry ENTITLED His faire Warning against the SCOTS DISCIPLINE In which His malicious and most lying Reports to the great scandall of that Government are fully and clearly refuted As also The Solemne League and Covenant of the three Nations justified and maintained By Robert Baylie Minister at Glasgow and one of the Commissioners from the Church of Scotland attending the KING at the Hague Printed at Delph by Mich. Stait dwelling at the Turf-Market 1649. For the Right Honourable the Noble and Potent Lord John Earle of Cassils Lord Kennedy c. one of His Majesties Privy-Counsell and Lord Iustice generall of Scotland Right Honourable MY long experience of your Lordships sincere zeale to the truth of God and affection to the liberties of the Church and Kingdome of Scotland against all enemies whomsoever hath emboldened me to offer by your Lordships hand to the view of the publick my following answer to a very bitter enemy of that Church and Kingdome for their adherence to the sacred truth of God and their owne just Libert es At my first sight of his Book and many days thereafte● The Authors reasons of his writing I had no purpose at all to meddle with him your Lordship knowes how unprovided men of my present condition must be either with leisure or accommodations or a mind suitable for writing of Books Also Doctor Bramble was so well knowne on the other side of the Sea the justice of the Parliament of England and Scotland having unanimously condemned him to stand upon the higgest pinacle of infamy among the first of the unpardonable incendiaries and in the head of the most pernicious instruments of the late miseries in Britaine and Ireland and the evident falshood of his calumnies were so clearly confuted long ago in printed Answers to the Infamous Authors whence he had borrowed them I saw lastly the mans spirit so extreme saucy and his pen so waspish and full of gall that I judged him unworthy of any answer But understanding his malicious boldnesse to put his Booke in the hand of His Majesty of the Prince of Orange and all the eminent Personages of this place who can read English yea to send it abroad unto all the Universities of these Provinces with very high and insinuating commendations from the prime favourers of the Episcopall cause hearing also the threats of that faction to put this their excellent and unanswerable peece both in Dutch French and Latine that in the whole neighbouring World the reputation of the Scots might thereby be wounded killed and buried without hope of recovery I found it necessary at the desire of divers friends to send this my review after it hoping that all who shall be pleased to be at the paines of comparing the Reply with the challenge may be induced to pronounce him not only a rash untimous malicious but also a very false accuser This much justice doe I expect from every judicious and equitable comparer of our wrytes upon the hazard of their censure to fall upon my side The Prelate are unable by reason to defend Episcopacy His invectives against us are chiefly for three things our Discipline our Covenant our alleaged unkindnes to our late Soveraigne My apology for the first is that in discipline we maintaine no considerable conclusion but what is avowed by all the Reformed Churches especially our Brethren of Holland and France as by the approbatory suffrages of the Universitie● of Leyden Utrecht and others to the theorems whereupon our adversary doth build his chiefe accusations may appeare If our practise had aberred fro● the common rule the crookednesse of the one ought not to prejudge the straitnesse of the other though what our adversary alleadgeth of these aberrations is nothing but his owne calumnious imputations the chiefe quarrell is our rule it self which all the Reformed harmoniously defend with us to be according to Scripture and the Episcopall declinations to be beside and against the line of the word yea Antichristian If our Prelates had found the humor of disputing this maine cause to stir in their veines why did they not vent it in replyes to Didoclavius and Gersome Bucerus who for long thirty years have stood unanswered or if fresher meats had more pleased their tast why did not their stomacks venture on Salmasius or Blondels books against Episcopacy If verball debates had liked them better than writing why had none of them the courage to accept the conference with that incomparably most learned of all Knights now living or in any bygone age Sir Claud Somayis who by a person of honour about the King did signifie his readinesse to prove before His Majesty against any one or all his Prelaticall Divines that their Episcopacy had no warrant at all in the word of God or any good reason Their strongest Arguments are tricks of Court But our friends are much wiser then to be at the trouble and hazard of any such exercise the artifices of the Court are their old trade they know better how to watch the seasons and to distribute amongst themselves the houres of the Kings opportunities when privately without contradiction they may instill in his tender mind their corrupt principles and instruct him in his cabine how safe it is for his conscience and how much for his honor rather to ruine himself his Family and all his Kingdoms with his own hands then to desert the holy Church that is the Bishops and their followers then to joyne with the rebellious Covenanters enemies to God to his Father to Monarchy that the embracing of the barbarous Irish the pardoning of all their monstrous murders the rewarding of their expected merits with a free liberty of Popery and accesse to all places of the highest trust though contrary to all the Lawes which England and Ireland has known this hundred yeares all this without and before any Parliament must be very consistent with conscience honour and all good reason Yea to bind up the soule of the most sweet and ingenuous of Princes in the chaines of their slavery for ever they have fallen upon a most rare tricke which hardly the inventions of all their Predecessors can paralell They rest not satisfied that for the upholding of their ambition and greed The Bishops unlucky foot is visible in 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they did harden our late Soveraigne to his very last in their Errours and without compassion did drive him on to his fatall praecipice unlesse they make him continue after his death to cry loud every day in the eares of his Sonne in his later will and testament to follow him in that same way of ruine rather than to give over to serve the lusts of the Prelaticall Clergy They have gathered together His Majesties last papers and out of them have made a Booke whereupon their best pens have dropped the greatest eloqution reason and

Commons of a Kingdome who are oppressed by Episcopall officials have no other remedy but to goe attend a Committee of two or three civilians at London deputed for the discussing of such appeales The Presbyterian course is much more ready solide and equitable if any grievance arise from the sentence of a Presbytery a Synode twice a yeare doth sit in the bounds and attends for a weeke or if need be longer to determine all appeales and redresse all grievances now the Synode does consist of all the Ministers within the bounds which ordinarily are of diverse whole shires as that of Glasgow of the upper and nearer ward of Clidsedaile Baerranfrow Lennox Kile Carrick and Cunninghame also beside Ministers the constant Members who have decisive voyce in Synodes are the chiefe Noblemen Gentlemen and Burgesses of all these shires among whom their be such parts for judgement as are not to be found nor expected in any inferiour civill Court of the Kingdome yet if it fall out so that any party be grieved with the sentence of a Synode there is then a farther and finall appeale to a Generall assembly which consist of as many Burgesses and more Gentlemen from every shire of the Kingdome then come to any Parliament Besides the prime Nobility and choisest Ministry of the land having the Kings Majestie in person or in his absence his high Commissioner to be their praesident This meeting yeerly or oftner if need be sits ordinarily a month and if they thinke fit longer the number the wisedome the eminency of the members of this Court is so great that beside the unjustice it were a very needlesse labour to appeal from it to the Parliament for as we have said the King or his high Commissioner sits in both meetings albeit in a different capacity the number and qualification of Knights and Burgesses is ever large as great in the assembly as in Parliament onely the difference is that in Parliament all the Nobility in the Kingdome sit without any election and by vertue of their birth but in the Assembly onely who for age wisedome and pie●y are chosen by the Presbyteries as fittest to judge in Ecclesiastick affaires but to make up this odds of the absence of some Noblemen the assembly is alwaies adorned with above an hundred of the choisest Pastors of the whole land none whereof may sit in Parliament nothing that can conciliate authority to a Court which can be found in the Nation is wanting to the generall assembly how basely so ever our praelats are pleased to trample upon it The second alleadged hurt All questions about pattronages in Scotland are now ended which the Nobility have from the Presbytery is the losse of their partonages by congregations electing their Pastors Answ However the judgement of our Church about pat●onages is no other then that of the Reformed divines abroad yet have our Presbyteries alw●ies with patience endured patrons to present unto vacant Churches till the Parliament now at last hath taken away that grievance The possessors of Church-l●nds were ever feared for Bishops but never for the Presby●ery The Nobilities next hurt by the Presbytery is their losse of all their impropriations and Abey-lands Ans How Sycophant●ck an accusation is this for who knowes not how farre the whole generation of the praelaticke faction doe exceed the highest of the Presbyterians in zeale against that which they call Sacriledge never any of the Presbyterians did attempt either by violence or a course of Law to put out any of the N●bility or Gentry from their possessions of the Chu ch-lands but very lately the threats and vigorous activity of the p aelats and their followers were so vehement in this kinde that all the Nobility and Gentry who had any interest were wackned to purpose to take heed of their rights In the last Parliament of Scotland when the power of the Church was as great as they expect to see it again though they obtained the abolition of patronages yet were the possessors of the Church-lands and tythes so little harmed that their rights thereto were more cleerly and strongly conformed then by any praeceding Parliament The fourth hurt is that every ordinary Presbyter will make himselfe a Noblemans fellow Ans No where in the World doe gracious Ministers though meane borne men receive more respect from the Nobility then in Scotland neither any where does the Nobility and Gentry receive more duely their honour then from the Ministers there That insolent speech fathered on Mr. Robert Bruce is demonstrat to be a fabulous calumny in the historicall vindication However the Warner may know that in all Europe where Bishops have place it has ever at least these 800 yeares beene their nature to trample under foot the h●ghest of the Nobility As the Pope must be above the Emperour so a little Cardinal Bellarmin can tell to King James that he may well he counted a companion of any Ilander King were the Bishops in Scotland ever content till they got in Parliament the right hand and the nearest seates to the throne and the doore of the greatest Earles Marquesses and Dukes was it not Episcopacy that did advance poore and capricious Pedants to strive for the white staves and great Seales of both Kingdomes with the prime Nobility and often overcome them in that strife In Scotland I know and the Warner will assure for England and Ireland that the basest borne of his Brethren has ruffled it in the secret councell in the royall Exchequer in the highest Courts of Justice with the greatest Lords of the Land it s not so long that yet it can be forgotten since a Bishop of Galloway had the modesty to give unto a Marquesse o● A●gile tantum non a broad lye in his face at the Councell table The Warner shall do well to reckon no more with Presbyters for braving of Noblemen The nixt hee will have to be wronged by the Presbytery are the Orthodox Clergy The Prelat● continue to annull the being of all the Reformed Churches for their want of Episcopacy Ans All the Presbyterians to him it seemes are heterodoxe Episcopacy is so necessary a truth that who denies it must be stamped as for a grievous errour with the character of heterodox The following words cleere this to be his minde they l●se saith hee the comfortable assurance of undoubted succession by Episcopall ordination what sence can be made of these words but that all Ministers who are not ordained by Bishop● must lie under the comfortlesse uncertainty of any lawfull succession in their Ministeriall charge for want of this succession through the lineall descent of Bishops from the Apostles at least for want of ordination by the hands of Bishops as if unto them onely the power of mission and ordination to the Ministry were committed by Christ because of this defect the Presbyterian Ministers must not onely want the comfort of an assured and undoubted calling to the Ministery but may very well