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A53494 The second part of the Display of tyranny; or Remarks upon the illegal and arbitrary proceedings in the Courts of Westminster, and Guild-Hall London From the year, 1678. to the abdication of the late King James, in the year 1688. In which time, the rule was, quod principi placuis, lex esto. Oates, Titus, 1649-1705. 1690 (1690) Wing O52; ESTC R219347 140,173 361

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