Selected quad for the lemma: justice_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
justice_n	chief_a	master_n	roll_n	2,746	5	11.2200	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44185	The case stated of the jurisdiction of the House of Lords in the point of impositions	Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.	1676 (1676)	Wing H2453; ESTC R20018	41,330	118

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