Selected quad for the lemma: justice_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
justice_n chief_a lord_n plea_n 5,523 5 9.8646 5 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A86467 The grand question concerning the judicature of the House of Peers, stated and argued And the case of Thomas Skinner merchant, complaining of the East India Company, with the proceedings thereupon, which gave occasion to that question, faithfully related. By a true well-wisher to the peace and good government of the kingdom, and to the dignity and authority of parliaments. Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. 1669 (1669) Wing H2459; ESTC R202445 76,537 221

There are 6 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

and_o company_n and_o of_o maurice_n tompson_n and_o sir_n andrew_n riccard_n see_v the_o petitioner_n hopeful_a design_n in_o his_o plantation_n and_o way_n of_o trade_n with_o his_o ship_n do_v seize_v for_o and_o on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o say_a governor_n and_o company_n his_o say_a ship_n good_n house_n istand_v and_o 1521_o dollar_n of_o the_o petitioner_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o thomas_n leaver_n the_o company_n chief_a agent_n at_o jamby_n which_o have_v damage_v he_o 17172_o l_o sterling_n beside_o the_o disappointment_n of_o his_o trade_n disseizin_v of_o his_o say_a island_n loss_n of_o above_o six_o year_n time_n with_o attendance_n and_o vast_a charge_n here_o in_o endeavour_n for_o a_o just_a satisfaction_n etc._n etc._n be_v much_o more_o valuable_a than_o all_o the_o other_o damage_n and_o the_o say_a agent_n use_v many_o violence_n upon_o his_o person_n in_o the_o say_a indies_n notwithstanding_o that_o the_o petitioner_n proffer_a bail_n and_o good_a security_n there_o to_o answer_v all_o their_o pretence_n which_o inhuman_a and_o unreasonable_a deal_n force_v the_o petitioner_n through_o infinite_a hazard_n and_o expense_n to_o come_v most_o over_o land_n for_o england_n to_o seek_v redress_n that_o in_o the_o year_n 1661._o and_o continual_o since_o he_o have_v humble_o beseech_v his_o majesty_n for_o justice_n against_o the_o say_a governor_n and_o company_n and_o person_n aforesaid_a and_o though_o his_o majesty_n have_v be_v gracious_o please_v to_o convene_v the_o say_a company_n and_o person_n and_o to_o hear_v the_o say_a matter_n and_o also_o to_o refer_v it_o divers_a time_n to_o several_a lord_n of_o his_o majesty_n most_o honourable_a privy_a council_n to_o hear_v they_o and_o mediate_v a_o end_n yet_o they_o can_v not_o be_v reduce_v to_o reason_n nor_o justice_n albeit_o the_o petitioner_n wrong_n and_o damage_n be_v make_v to_o appear_v as_o well_o by_o their_o own_o acknowledgement_n as_o other_o evidence_n produce_v before_o the_o lord_n referree_n but_o endeavour_v by_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o joynt-purse_n to_o bear_v down_o the_o petitioner_n relief_n though_o never_o so_o just_a by_o weary_v he_o from_o further_a prosecution_n that_o the_o petitioner_n whole_a case_n not_o be_v remediable_a by_o the_o court_v below_o he_o be_v constrain_v humble_o to_o address_v himself_o to_o your_o lordship_n his_o majesty_n great_a council_n and_o supreme_a judicature_n who_o the_o petitioner_n most_o humble_o petition_v the_o last_o session_n and_o your_o lordship_n be_v please_v to_o order_v their_o attendance_n but_o by_o their_o dilatory_a plea_n and_o several_a non-attendance_n upon_o slight_a excuse_n at_o the_o day_n appoint_v by_o your_o lordship_n they_o frustrate_v the_o petitioner_n of_o obtain_v your_o lordship_n justice_n that_o session_n wherefore_o he_o most_o humble_o pray_v that_o your_o lordship_n will_v be_v please_v to_o cause_v the_o say_a governor_n and_o company_n and_o person_n aforesaid_a to_o answer_v the_o premise_n before_o your_o lordship_n by_o a_o short_a day_n and_o that_o he_o may_v receive_v from_o your_o lordship_n such_o relief_n as_o shall_v be_v consistent_a with_o justice_n and_o equity_n and_o he_o shall_v pray_v etc._n etc._n signed_n thomas_n skinner_n the_o lord_n upon_o this_o order_z the_o company_n to_o put_v in_o their_o answer_n in_o write_v upon_o wednesday_n the_o 6_o the_o of_o november_n they_o bring_v in_o a_o plea_n as_o before_o first_o by_o way_n of_o protestation_n that_o all_o the_o injury_n suppose_v to_o be_v commit_v by_o they_o and_o their_o factor_n be_v untrue_a then_o plead_v as_o former_o that_o the_o petition_n be_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o original_a complaint_n not_o bring_v by_o way_n of_o appeal_n etc._n etc._n as_o in_o their_o plea_n of_o the_o last_o session_n but_o add_v and_o therefore_o these_o respondent_o do_v humble_o demand_v the_o judgement_n of_o this_o honourable_a court_n whither_o it_o will_v please_v to_o take_v any_o other_o or_o further_a cognizance_n of_o the_o same_o the_o rather_o because_o the_o matter_n of_o complaint_n in_o the_o petition_n be_v such_o for_o which_o remedy_n be_v ordinary_o give_v in_o the_o court_n of_o westminster-hall_n wherein_o these_o respondent_o have_v right_o to_o be_v try_v and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v bring_v hither_o per_fw-la saltum_fw-la nor_o draw_v ad_fw-la aliud_fw-la examen_fw-la and_o so_o pray_v to_o be_v dismiss_v the_o lord_n have_v receive_v this_o plea_n to_o show_v the_o clearness_n of_o their_o intention_n and_o their_o tenderness_n of_o do_v any_o thing_n which_o may_v but_o carry_v a_o semblance_n that_o they_o desire_v to_o engross_v to_o themselves_o the_o judge_a of_o particular_a cause_n when_o determinable_a elsewhere_o and_o nothing_o extraordinary_a in_o the_o case_n to_o induce_v their_o lordship_n to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o the_o matter_n which_o apparent_o be_v in_o this_o case_n of_o skinner_n as_o have_v be_v say_v before_o will_v have_v the_o opinion_n of_o all_o the_o judge_n before_o they_o proceed_v any_o further_a and_o therefore_o make_v a_o order_n monday_n the_o 2_o d._n of_o december_n that_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o all_o the_o judge_n to_o consider_v of_o skinner_n petition_n and_o to_o report_n to_o the_o house_n upon_o the_o wednesday_n follow_v whether_o the_o petitioner_n be_v relievable_a upon_o the_o matter_n therein_o mention_v in_o law_n or_o equity_n and_o if_o so_o in_o what_o manner_n upon_o the_o several_a part_n of_o the_o complaint_n of_o the_o say_a petition_n the_o day_n appoint_v the_o judge_n come_v and_o the_o lord_n chief_a justice_n of_o the_o king_n bench_n report_v that_o all_o the_o judge_n have_v consider_v of_o the_o matter_n refer_v to_o they_o and_o have_v meet_v and_o consider_v thereof_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o matter_n touch_v the_o take_n away_o of_o the_o petitioner_n ship_n and_o good_n and_o assault_v of_o his_o person_n notwithstanding_o the_o same_o be_v do_v beyond_o the_o sea_n may_v be_v determine_v in_o his_o majesty_n ordinary_a court_n at_o westminster_n and_o as_o to_o the_o dispossess_v he_o of_o his_o house_n and_o island_n that_o be_v be_v not_o relievable_a in_o any_o ordinary_a court_n of_o law_n here_o then_o clear_o by_o the_o judge_n own_o confession_n part_n of_o the_o case_n be_v not_o within_o the_o power_n of_o westminster_n hall_n and_o under_o favour_n of_o better_a judgement_n i_o think_v it_o will_v be_v but_o a_o venial_a sin_n if_o notwithstanding_o this_o declaration_n of_o our_o sage_n in_o the_o law_n the_o doubt_n do_v still_o remain_v with_o we_o if_o some_o of_o the_o other_o point_v also_o as_o that_o of_o the_o take_n of_o his_o ship_n a_o robbery_n commit_v super_fw-la altum_fw-la mare_fw-la be_v punishable_a by_o the_o law_n of_o westminster_n hall_n nay_o may_v not_o one_o be_v bold_a to_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v not_o and_o may_v it_o not_o be_v doubt_v further_o if_o any_o part_n of_o skinner_n case_n be_v tryable_a there_o and_o if_o their_o fiction_n in_o law_n will_v reach_v any_o part_n of_o it_o be_v all_o for_o injury_n and_o violence_n against_o his_o person_n and_o estate_n in_o india_n we_o know_v that_o some_o judge_n and_o lawyer_n make_v it_o to_o extend_v to_o contract_n and_o bond_n make_v beyond_o the_o sea_n which_o they_o ground_n upon_o a_o case_n in_o the_o year_n book_n of_o 48_o e._n 3._o fol._n 2._o where_o sir_n ralph_n pole_n bring_v his_o action_n against_o sir_n richard_n tochester_n upon_o a_o obligation_n bear_v date_n at_o harfleet_n in_o kent_n lou_n de_fw-fr rei_fw-la veritate_fw-la i_o will_v fust_v fait_fw-fr en_fw-fr normandy_n the_o book_n say_v and_o his_o action_n be_v hold_v good_a and_o brook_n who_o make_v it_o to_o be_v at_o rouen_n not_o harfleet_n give_v the_o reason_n in_o his_o abridgement_n faits_fw-fr 98._o le_fw-fr lieu_fw-fr n'est_fw-fr traversable_a the_o place_n be_v not_o traversable_a which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v when_o it_o be_v express_v in_o the_o bond_n for_o a_o man_n can_v traverse_v the_o place_n against_o his_o own_o act._n but_o the_o law_n be_v ever_o understand_v to_o be_v otherwise_o till_o then_o that_o the_o judge_n will_v ampliare_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la and_o to_o show_v what_o the_o law_n be_v before_o e._n 3_o it_o be_v adjudge_v michaelmas_n 2_o e._n 2._o that_o no_o action_n will_v lie_v for_o a_o bond_n make_v at_o barwick_n which_o do_v not_o then_o belong_v to_o england_n ou_fw-fr cest_fw-fr court_n nau_o '_o conisan_n where_o the_o court_n have_v not_o cognisance_n say_v fitzherbert_n obligation_n 15._o and_o so_o perkins_n afaite_z 121._o but_o both_o before_o and_o since_o the_o court_n of_o law_n be_v so_o far_o from_o punish_v injury_n and_o trespass_n do_v beyond_o sea_n that_o even_o treason_n be_v not_o tryable_a till_o the_o statute_n of_o 26_o h._n 8._o cap._n 13._o which_o say_v that_o if_o any_o of_o the_o king_n
it_o be_v but_o seem_o as_o will_v be_v show_v upon_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o precedent_n themselves_o whereas_o multitude_n be_v produce_v of_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o jurisdiction_n and_o some_o where_o the_o party_n have_v desire_v a_o try_n all_o at_o common_a law_n and_o the_o lord_n will_v not_o grant_v it_o as_o that_o of_o william_n paynell_n and_o margaret_n his_o wife_n in_o the_o placita_fw-la parliamentaria_fw-la of_o the_o 30_o of_o ed._n 1._o p._n 231._o the_o case_n be_v this_o margaret_z have_v be_v former_o the_o wife_n of_o john_n camey_n and_o he_o yet_o live_v bad_a leave_v he_o as_o she_o allege_v with_o his_o consent_n and_o live_v with_o paynell_n as_o his_o wife_n and_o be_v marry_v to_o he_o camey_n die_v paynell_n and_o she_o sue_v for_o the_o three_o of_o the_o manor_n of_o torpell_n which_o have_v be_v the_o land_n of_o camey_n it_o be_v object_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o she_o live_v in_o adultery_n with_o paynell_n in_o cameys_n life_n time_n and_o so_o have_v forfeit_v her_o dower_n they_o upon_o that_o desire_n to_o be_v try_v by_o their_o country_n if_o adultery_n or_o no_o what_o say_v the_o house_n of_o peer_n do_v they_o send_v they_o into_o the_o country_n as_o be_v desire_v no_o videtur_fw-la curiae_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la necesse_fw-la contra_fw-la tantas_fw-la tamque_fw-la manifestas_fw-la evidentias_fw-la praesumptiones_fw-la probationes_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la aliquam_fw-la inquisitionem_fw-la patriae_fw-la capiendam_fw-la procedere_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la ideo_fw-la consideratum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la praedicti_fw-la willielmus_fw-la &_o margareta_n nihil_fw-la capiant_fw-la per_fw-la petitionem_fw-la svam_fw-la sed_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o misericordia_fw-la pro_fw-la falso_fw-la clamoro_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o show_v that_o the_o lord_n some_o time_n will_v retain_v cause_n though_o sometime_o they_o do_v dismiss_v they_o not_o for_o want_v of_o jurisdiction_n but_o as_o it_o seem_v to_o they_o convenient_a and_o their_o occasion_n will_v give_v leave_n &_o as_o they_o have_v or_o have_v not_o leisure_n for_o it_o from_o the_o great_a affair_n of_o the_o kingdom_n or_o that_o some_o circumstance_n in_o the_o merit_n of_o a_o causemade_v it_o more_o or_o less_o worthy_a of_o their_o consideration_n as_o if_o one_o of_o the_o party_n be_v powerful_a in_o his_o country_n and_o suspect_v to_o have_v a_o influence_n upon_o the_o juries_n the_o lord_n will_v then_o some_o time_n retain_v a_o business_n and_o determine_v it_o themselves_o as_o in_o 3_o r._n 2._o n._n 24._o the_o case_n of_o john_n earl_n of_o pembro●k_n and_o william_n le_fw-fr zouch_n complain_v that_o they_o be_v sue_v for_o certain_a land_n in_o yorkshire_n by_o thomas_n the_o son_n of_o sir_n robert_n roos_n of_o ingmanthorp_n and_o allege_v that_o the_o say_v thomas_n seek_v to_o come_v to_o a_o trial_n in_o the_o country_n which_o he_o have_v gain_v and_o corrupt_v and_o therefore_o pray_v for_o redress_n and_o a_o trial_n by_o parliament_n give_v this_o reason_n for_o it_o que_fw-fr ils_fw-fr par_fw-fr tell_v malveis_n compassemens_n et_fw-la procuremens_n en_fw-fr pais_fw-fr ne_fw-fr soient_fw-fr desheritez_fw-fr that_o they_o may_v not_o lose_v their_o inheritance_n by_o such_o wicked_a contrivance_n and_o practice_n in_o the_o country_n do_v the_o lord_n than_o suffer_v it_o to_o go_v on_o to_o trial_n in_o the_o country_n no_o they_o take_v the_o matter_n into_o their_o own_o hand_n appoint_v john_n knevet_n and_o john_n cavendish_n chief_a justice_n and_o john_n belknap_n chief_a justice_n of_o the_o common_a plea_n to_o examine_v it_o and_o make_v report_n to_o they_o which_o they_o do_v and_o so_o likewise_o in_o the_o case_n of_o pontyngdon_n and_o courtney_n 4_o h._n 4._o n._n 21._o sir_n philip_n courtney_n a_o great_a man_n in_o the_o country_n oppress_v pontyngdon_n dispossess_v he_o of_o his_o land_n by_o force_n he_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n pray_v pur_fw-mi dieu_fw-fr et_fw-fr en_fw-fr oewre_fw-fr de_fw-fr charite_n d'ordeigner_n remedy_n en_fw-fr cell_n case_n for_o god_n sake_n and_o as_o a_o work_n of_o charity_n that_o they_o will_v give_v remedy_n in_o this_o case_n set_v forth_o in_o his_o petition_n that_o he_o have_v before_o in_o a_o parliament_n hold_v at_o winchester_n make_v his_o complaint_n at_o which_o time_n sir_n philip_n lay_v the_o bastardy_n of_o his_o father_n as_o a_o bar_n and_o that_o the_o lord_n answer_v then_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v have_v right_o do_v he_o and_o commit_v the_o business_n to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n to_o take_v care_n of_o it_o that_o before_o the_o archbishop_n sir_n philip_n and_o he_o agree_v to_o go_v to_o a_o trial_n upon_o that_o issue_n and_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v a_o sufficient_a jury_n of_o the_o principal_a knight_n and_o esquire_n of_o the_o country_n but_o that_o sir_n philip_n have_v name_v some_o of_o those_o principal_a man_n and_o withal_o poor_a man_n of_o less_o sufficiency_n to_o the_o intent_n that_o the_o great_a man_n make_v default_n the_o poor_a shall_v stand_v and_o that_o these_o poor_a man_n dare_v not_o against_o sir_n philip_n maintain_v the_o truth_n les_fw-fr queux_fw-fr pour_v hommes_fw-fr n'oisent_fw-fr enver_n le_fw-fr dit_fw-fr sir_n philip_n la_o verity_n dire_a that_o thereupon_o he_o petition_v again_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o next_o parliament_n sit_v at_o westminster_n and_o inform_v they_o of_o all_o these_o particular_n whereupon_o they_o order_v a_o writ_n to_o go_v to_o the_o judge_n of_o assize_n of_o that_o country_n command_v they_o to_o admit_v none_o to_o be_v of_o the_o jury_n but_o such_o as_o have_v 40_o l_o a_o year_n land_n and_o those_o to_o be_v choose_v out_o of_o the_o whole_a country_n notwithstanding_o any_o usage_n or_o challenge_n to_o the_o contrary_a but_o that_o now_o sir_n philip_n find_v that_o the_o charge_n of_o bastardy_n will_v not_o hold_v contrive_v still_o the_o wrongful_a disinherison_n of_o the_o petitioner_n have_v start_v a_o release_n undue_o get_v from_o one_o thomas_n pontyngdon_n a_o parson_n who_o heirethe_v petitioner_n be_v and_o the_o petitioner_n be_v thereby_o like_a to_o be_v ruin_v si_fw-mi il_fw-it neit_fw-mi vostre_fw-fr tres_fw-fr hautissime_fw-la et_fw-la tres_fw-la excellent_a secours_fw-fr et_fw-fr aid_n if_o the_o lord_n will_v not_o afford_v he_o their_o most_o high_a and_o excellent_a succour_n and_o help_v this_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o the_o petition_n the_o lord_n upon_o this_o make_v a_o order_n to_o direct_v the_o trial_n the_o point_n in_o issue_n to_o be_v the_o bastardy_n that_o the_o release_n shall_v be_v lay_v aside_o as_o null_n and_o void_a that_o if_o the_o bastardy_n be_v prove_v pontyngdon_n shall_v be_v for_o ever_o bar_v to_o sue_v hereafter_o and_o if_o not_o prove_v but_o that_o his_o father_n be_v mulier_fw-la he_o shall_v then_o recover_v the_o land_n with_o cost_v and_o damage_n and_o they_o further_o order_v a_o writ_n to_o the_o sheriff_n to_o impannell_n none_o of_o the_o jury_n that_o have_v not_o 40_o l_o per_fw-la annum_fw-la land_n so_o then_o three_o several_a time_n in_o three_o several_a parliament_n do_v the_o lord_n take_v cognizance_n of_o this_o cause_n be_v a_o common_a plea_n for_o a_o man_n freehold_n and_o that_o original_o in_o the_o first_o instance_n not_o upon_o a_o appeal_n or_o write_v of_o error_n or_o any_o of_o those_o way_n to_o which_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o will_v now_o limit_v they_o they_o direct_v the_o trial_n the_o issue_n the_o condition_n and_o qualification_n of_o the_o jury_n and_o the_o judgement_n and_o if_o this_o be_v not_o take_v cognizance_n of_o a_o cause_n i_o know_v not_o what_o be_v and_o well_o be_v it_o for_o that_o poor_a gentleman_n that_o the_o lord_n have_v that_o jurisdiction_n that_o they_o can_v take_v cognizance_n of_o his_o cause_n to_o give_v he_o relief_n then_o as_o now_o it_o be_v well_o for_o skinner_n that_o the_o lord_n take_v cognizance_n of_o he_o otherwise_o this_o powerful_a company_n have_v trample_v he_o in_o the_o dirt_n and_o ruin_v he_o as_o that_o violent_a man_n sir_n philip_n courtney_n for_o so_o he_o appear_v to_o have_v be_v by_o several_a complaint_n against_o he_o in_o the_o parliament_n of_o those_o time_n have_v serve_v pontyngdon_n and_o well_o will_v it_o still_o be_v for_o many_o a_o poor_a man_n to_o have_v such_o a_o asylum_n such_o a_o city_n of_o refuge_n to_o fly_v unto_o to_o save_v himself_o from_o the_o violence_n and_o oppression_n of_o power_n and_o greatness_n and_o perhaps_o some_o of_o those_o who_o now_o endeavour_v to_o lay_v low_a the_o house_n of_o peer_n who_o will_v make_v it_o to_o be_v of_o no_o signification_n to_o have_v no_o power_n no_o influence_n upon_o the_o kingdom_n be_v as_o salt_n that_o have_v lose_v its_o savour_n only_o magni_fw-la nominis_fw-la umbra_fw-la a_o name_n of_o peerage_n without_o ability_n to_o help_v themselves_o or_o
john_n of_o jerusalem_n sue_v he_o in_o chancery_n for_o the_o manor_n of_o temple-hurst_a and_o temple-newsom_a which_o ed._n 3._o have_v grant_v to_o john_n darcy_n his_o father_n and_o produce_v a_o deed_n show_v that_o the_o prior_n predecessor_n have_v pass_v the_o fee_n of_o they_o to_o ed._n 2._o the_o lord_n order_v that_o deed_n to_o be_v send_v to_o the_o treasurer_n and_o baron_n of_o the_o exchequer_n to_o examine_v the_o king_n title_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n stop_v proceed_n in_o chancery_n this_o be_v more_o than_o take_v cognisance_n of_o a_o matter_n original_o for_o they_o take_v it_o out_o of_o one_o court_n where_o it_o depend_v and_o be_v undetermined_a and_o send_v it_o to_o be_v examine_v in_o a_o other_o court_n which_o show_v the_o ascendant_n they_o have_v upon_o all_o other_o court_n 4._o r._n 2._o n._n 17._o sir_n ralph_n de_fw-fr ferrier_n have_v be_v seize_v by_o the_o duke_n of_o lancaster_n upon_o the_o march_n of_o scotland_n upon_o suspicion_n of_o treason_n for_o hold_v intelligence_n with_o the_o french_a the_o king_n enemy_n upon_o some_o letter_n of_o he_o to_o several_a french_a lord_n find_v and_o take_v up_o by_o a_o beggar_n he_o be_v bring_v into_o parliament_n before_o the_o lord_n and_o put_v to_o his_o answer_n he_o first_o desire_v counsel_n than_o offer_v the_o combat_n against_o any_o that_o will_v acouse_v he_o both_o be_v deny_v he_o then_o he_o apply_v himself_o to_o his_o answer_n and_o after_o several_a day_n hear_v the_o lord_n still_o remand_v he_o to_o prison_n he_o so_o well_o defend_v himself_o that_o the_o lord_n suspect_v the_o letter_n to_o be_v forge_v and_o therefore_o commit_v the_o beggar_n and_o bail_v sir_n ralph_n deliver_v he_o to_o his_o manucaptor_n 5._o r._n 2._o n._n 45._o the_o chancellor_n and_o university_n of_o cambridg_n petition_v against_o the_o major_a bailiff_n and_o commonalty_n of_o the_o town_n for_o break_v up_o their_o treasury_n burn_v their_o charter_n and_o by_o force_n compel_v they_o to_o make_v release_v of_o some_o action_n they_o have_v bring_v against_o the_o town_n and_o enter_v into_o bond_n to_o they_o for_o great_a sum_n the_o lord_n direct_v a_o writ_n to_o issue_v out_o to_o the_o mayor_n and_o bailiff_n to_o appear_v in_o person_n and_o the_o commonalty_n by_o attorney_n they_o appear_v the_o chancellor_z exhibit_n article_n against_o they_o they_o be_v ask_v why_o their_o liberty_n shall_v not_o be_v seize_v plead_v to_o the_o jurisdiction_n that_o the_o court_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v cognisance_n of_o they_o they_o be_v tell_v judgement_n shall_v be_v give_v if_o they_o will_v not_o answer_v then_o they_o answer_v and_o the_o business_n be_v hear_v the_o townsman_n be_v order_v to_o deliver_v up_o those_o deed_n force_v from_o the_o university_n which_o be_v present_o cancel_v the_o town_n liberties_n be_v seize_v into_o the_o king_n hand_n and_o part_n of_o they_o grant_v to_o the_o university_n some_o be_v grant_v back_o to_o the_o town_n for_o which_o they_o be_v to_o pay_v a_o increase_n of_o rent_n note_v here_o be_v a_o plea_n to_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o that_o plea_n overrule_v 8._o r._n 2._o n._n 12._o the_o earl_n of_o oxford_n complain_v of_o walter_n sibell_n of_o london_n for_o a_o slander_n in_o have_v to_o the_o duke_n of_o lancaster_n and_o other_o nobleman_n accuse_v he_o of_o maintenance_n the_o lord_n hear_v the_o business_n commit_v sibell_n to_o prison_n and_o give_v 500_o mark_n damage_n to_o the_o earl_n 9_o r._n 2._o n._n 13._o the_o case_n of_o the_o duke_n of_o lancaster_n complain_v that_o sir_n john_n stanley_n have_v enter_v upon_o the_o manor_n of_o latham_n which_o hold_v of_o he_o and_o have_v not_o sue_v out_o his_o livery_n in_o his_o court_n of_o chancery_n the_o lord_n order_v he_o to_o sue_v out_o his_o livery_n but_o this_o have_v be_v already_o mention_v 15._o r._n 2._o n._n 16._o the_o prior_n of_o holland_n in_o lancashire_n complain_v of_o a_o riot_n commit_v by_o henry_n treble_n john_n greenbow_n and_o other_o and_o of_o a_o entry_n make_v by_o they_o into_o the_o parsonage_n of_o whit_n wick_n in_o leicestershire_n john_n ellingham_n the_o sergeant_n at_o arm_n be_v send_v for_o they_o who_o bring_v they_o into_o the_o parliament_n the_o lord_n commit_v they_o to_o the_o fleet._n n._n 17._o the_o abbot_n of_o st._n oseches_n complain_v of_o john_n rokell_n for_o embracery_n this_o case_n have_v be_v already_o cite_v n._n 18._o sir_n william_n bryan_n have_v procure_v a_o bull_n direct_v to_o the_o two_o archbishop_n to_o excommunicate_v some_o that_o have_v break_v up_o his_o house_n and_o carry_v away_o write_n this_o be_v read_v in_o parliament_n and_o adjudge_v to_o be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o king_n and_o to_o be_v in_o derogation_n of_o the_o law_n for_o which_o he_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o tower_n n._n 20._o thomas_n harding_n accuse_v sir_n john_n sutton_n and_o sir_n richard_n sutton_n and_o lay_v to_o their_o charge_n that_o by_o their_o conspiracy_n he_o have_v be_v keep_v prisoner_n in_o the_o fleet_n upon_o hear_v of_o both_o party_n for_o that_o the_o two_o knight_n be_v know_v to_o be_v man_n of_o good_a fame_n the_o lord_n adjudge_v he_o to_o the_o fleet._n n._n 21._o john_n shad_z well_o complain_v against_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n for_o excommunicate_v he_o and_o his_o neighbour_n wrongful_o for_o a_o temporal_a cause_n appertain_v to_o the_o crown_n and_o to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n the_o lord_n hear_v the_o business_n find_v the_o suggestion_n untrue_a and_o commit_v he_o to_o the_o fleet._n 1_o h._n 4._o n._n 93._o sir_n william_n richill_n one_o of_o the_o justice_n of_o the_o common-plea_n who_o by_o express_a order_n of_o ri._n 2._o go_v to_o calais_n and_o take_v the_o examination_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o duke_n of_o gloucester_n after_o murder_a by_o hall_n be_v bring_v a_o prisoner_n into_o the_o lord_n house_n the_o king_n present_a and_o by_o sir_n walter_n clopton_n chief_a justice_n oppose_v and_o answer_v so_o full_o show_v his_o sincere_a deal_n that_o the_o lord_n one_o by_o one_o declare_v he_o innocent_a and_o sir_n walter_n clopton_n pronounce_v he_o such_o 4_o h._n 4._o n._n 21._o the_o case_n of_o pontingdon_n and_o sir_n philip_n courtney_n where_o the_o lord_n direct_v the_o trial_n appoint_v what_o the_o issue_n shall_v be_v and_o what_o kind_n of_o jury_n shall_v be_v empanel_v to_o prevent_v sir_n philip_n be_v practice_n in_o the_o country_n it_o have_v be_v cite_v before_o at_o large_a 1._o e._n 4._o m._n 6._o n._n 16._o the_o tenant_n of_o the_o manor_n of_o east-maine_n belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o winchester_n the_o king_n be_v in_o his_o progress_n in_o hampshire_n in_o the_o summertime_n complain_v to_o he_o of_o their_o bishop_n for_o raise_v new_a custom_n among_o they_o and_o not_o suffer_v they_o to_o enjoy_v their_o old_a one_o the_o king_n bid_v they_o come_v to_o parliament_n in_o winter_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v relieve_v they_o come_v and_o the_o king_n recommend_v their_o business_n to_o the_o lord_n they_o commit_v it_o to_o certain_a justice_n to_o examine_v upon_o their_o report_n and_o upon_o mature_a deliberation_n it_o be_v adjudge_v that_o the_o tenant_n be_v in_o fault_n that_o they_o complain_v without_o cause_n and_o they_o be_v order_v to_o continue_v their_o say_a custom_n and_o service_n here_o observe_v there_o be_v the_o recommendation_n of_o the_o king_n in_o the_o case_n just_a as_o now_o in_o skinner_n and_o this_o difference_n that_o a_o question_n of_o custom_n betwixt_o lord_n and_o tenant_n be_v proper_o determinable_a by_o the_o common_a law_n and_o a_o jury_n of_o the_o visenage_n and_o this_o of_o a_o trespass_n in_o the_o indies_n to_o be_v punish_v in_o parliament_n or_o no_o where_o which_o justify_v the_o proceed_n there_o 43._o eliz._n the_o 18_o of_o december_n a_o complaint_n be_v make_v to_o the_o lord_n by_o the_o company_n of_o painter_n against_o the_o company_n of_o plasterer_n for_o wrong_v do_v they_o in_o use_v some_o part_n of_o their_o trade_n their_o lordship_n refer_v it_o to_o the_o lord_n maior_n and_o recorder_n of_o london_n to_o be_v hear_v examine_v adjudge_v and_o order_v by_o they_o which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o they_o have_v do_v it_o themselves_o for_o it_o be_v do_v by_o their_o authority_n and_o by_o their_o order_n qui_fw-la facit_fw-la per_fw-la alium_fw-la facit_fw-la pierce_v 18._o jac._n the_o lord_n take_v notice_n of_o the_o proceed_v of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o in_o the_o case_n of_o one_o flood_n who_o they_o have_v convent_v before_o they_o for_o insolent_a and_o scandalous_a word_n speak_v by_o he_o against_o the_o prince_n and_o princess_n palatine_n examine_v witness_n and_o give_v judgement_n in_o the_o cause_n
his_o father_n decease_v and_o that_o a_o statute_n of_o 1600_o l_o enter_v into_o by_o the_o say_v thomas_n bagshaw_n to_o john_n gell_n esq_n shall_v be_v discharge_v and_o make_v void_a and_o that_o thomas_n bagshaw_n shall_v make_v a_o release_n to_o the_o say_v edward_n of_o all_o debt_n and_o demand_n the_o sixteenth_o of_o june_n 41._o the_o lord_n audley_n complain_v by_o petition_n that_o the_o lord_n cottington_n keep_v from_o he_o the_o manor_n of_o fonthill_n and_o pray_v relief_n therein_o upon_o hear_v counsel_n on_o both_o side_n the_o lord_n dismiss_v the_o petition_n the_o twenty_o three_o of_o june_n 41._o the_o committee_n for_o petition_n report_n that_o mistress_n walter_n have_v prefer_v a_o petition_n set_v forth_o that_o william_n walter_n her_o husband_n will_v not_o permit_v she_o to_o cohabit_v and_o dwell_v with_o he_o nor_o allow_v to_o she_o and_o three_o child_n any_o thing_n for_o their_o support_n the_o lord_n order_v she_o to_o repair_v to_o her_o husband_n and_o offer_v to_o live_v with_o he_o and_o if_o he_o shall_v refuse_v to_o admit_v she_o that_o then_o he_o shall_v allow_v she_o 60_o l_o per_fw-la annum_fw-la for_o her_o maintenance_n the_o 21_o the_o of_o july_n 41._o a_o petition_n be_v exhibit_v before_o the_o lord_n by_o sundry_a officer_n and_o clerk_n of_o the_o court_n of_o common_a plea_n show_v that_o the_o dispose_n of_o the_o office_n of_o protonotary_n phitizer_n exigenter_n and_o other_o office_n of_o the_o say_a court_n have_v time_n out_o of_o mind_n belong_v to_o the_o chief_a justice_n of_o that_o court_n for_o the_o time_n be_v but_o several_a grant_n and_o patent_n have_v be_v obtain_v from_o his_o majesty_n for_o the_o dispose_n of_o the_o say_a office_n and_o therefore_o they_o pray_v that_o all_o those_o grant_n and_o letter_n patent_n may_v be_v recall_v the_o lord_n hear_v counsel_n upon_o it_o and_o after_o mature_a deliberation_n declare_v that_o the_o say_a office_n do_v of_o right_o belong_v to_o the_o disposition_n of_o the_o lord_n chief_a justice_n of_o the_o common_a plea_n and_o the_o grant_v former_o make_v by_o letter_n patent_n of_o the_o say_a office_n to_o be_v illegal_a and_o void_a and_o order_v the_o say_a patent_n to_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o house_n there_o be_v likewise_o in_o the_o journal_n book_n of_o that_o parliament_n mention_v make_v of_o a_o petition_n of_o one_o thomas_n smithick_n prefer_v the_o ten_o of_o june_n 1641._o complain_v of_o wrong_n sustain_v from_o the_o east_n india_n company_n and_o likewise_o of_o a_o petition_n from_o the_o east_n india_n company_n full_a of_o respect_n and_o submission_n to_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n and_o pray_v a_o long_a day_n than_o it_o seem_v be_v appoint_v for_o hear_v the_o merit_n of_o the_o cause_n which_o the_o lord_n grant_v and_o order_v all_o such_o book_n certificate_n and_o write_n as_o be_v in_o the_o custody_n of_o the_o company_n concern_v that_o business_n shall_v be_v produce_v and_o smithick_n to_o peruse_v and_o take_v copy_n of_o they_o what_o be_v more_o do_v upon_o this_o petition_n of_o smithick_n appear_v not_o by_o the_o journal_n book_n probable_a they_o compound_v the_o business_n among_o themselves_o but_o however_o it_o be_v observable_a the_o different_a spirit_n of_o the_o east_n india_n company_n then_o and_o of_o this_o now_o the_o modesty_n of_o that_o and_o the_o carriage_n of_o this_o so_o far_o differ_v in_o those_o time_n no_o question_n be_v make_v of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o point_n of_o their_o judicature_n nor_o no_o complaint_n against_o their_o practice_n of_o it_o yet_o we_o see_v the_o frequency_n of_o it_o in_o cause_n of_o all_o nature_n criminal_a civil_a mix_v between_o king_n and_o subject_a between_o subject_a and_o subject_a no_o protection_n no_o privilege_n do_v exempt_v any_o body_n from_o their_o jurisdiction_n the_o lord_n at_o the_o conference_n as_o they_o say_v to_o the_o gentleman_n of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o be_v the_o more_o copious_a in_o the_o enumeration_n of_o these_o late_a precedent_n especial_o those_o of_o 1640_o and_o 1641._o not_o that_o they_o think_v themselves_o at_o all_o to_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o they_o the_o ancient_a one_o before_o produce_v show_v the_o usage_n all_o along_o from_o the_o very_a first_o and_o best_a time_n which_o in_o their_o lordship_n opinion_n be_v of_o much_o more_o weight_n &_o sufficient_o convince_a but_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o have_v a_o little_a before_o at_o a_o other_o conference_n deliver_v it_o for_o a_o maxim_n that_o the_o late_a precedent_n be_v best_o and_o have_v according_o insist_v upon_o one_o single_a precedent_n of_o the_o same_o parlialiament_n of_o 1640._o to_o oblige_v the_o house_n of_o lord_n to_o commit_v a_o person_n upon_o a_o general_a impeachment_n of_o treason_n without_o special_a matter_n show_v and_o oppose_v that_o one_o precedent_n to_o what_o their_o lordship_n allege_v to_o the_o contrary_a and_o make_v appear_v to_o have_v be_v the_o usage_n of_o all_o former_a time_n no_o record_n be_v of_o any_o man_n ever_o send_v to_o prison_n by_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n without_o a_o particular_a crime_n express_v in_o the_o impeachment_n of_o some_o act_n do_v by_o he_o before_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n which_o be_v the_o precedent_n stand_v upon_o this_o make_v the_o lord_n heap_v up_o so_o many_o example_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o their_o house_n in_o that_o parliament_n of_o 1640._o in_o the_o point_n of_o judicature_n to_o use_v it_o as_o argumentum_fw-la ad_fw-la heminem_fw-la and_o what_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o can_v no_o way_n except_v against_o themselves_o have_v declare_v it_o to_o be_v of_o great_a authority_n until_o henry_n the_o eight_o time_n the_o very_a house_n of_o commons_o be_v to_o be_v behold_v to_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n for_o their_o administration_n of_o justice_n even_o concern_v their_o member_n as_o the_o only_a judge_n and_o conservator_n of_o their_o liberty_n and_o privilege_n themselves_o can_v not_o before_o that_o have_v punish_v any_o one_o that_o have_v never_o so_o much_o offend_v they_o so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o exercise_v a_o power_n of_o commitment_n or_o of_o inflict_v any_o punishment_n for_o crime_n at_o large_a and_o against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n where_o neither_o the_o offence_n nor_o the_o offender_n have_v particular_a relation_n to_o their_o house_n as_o in_o these_o late_a time_n have_v be_v often_o practise_v by_o they_o but_o as_o i_o say_v the_o first_o time_n that_o ever_o they_o punish_v any_o and_o it_o be_v for_o breach_n of_o privilege_n be_v in_o the_o parliament_n 34_o h._n 8._o in_o the_o case_n of_o george_n ferrer_n burgess_n for_o plymouth_n who_o be_v arrest_v and_o put_v in_o the_o counter_a the_o house_n inform_v of_o it_o send_v their_o sergeant_n to_o demand_v their_o member_n not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o summon_v sheriff_n or_o bailiff_n that_o make_v the_o arrest_n or_o party_n at_o who_o suit_n it_o be_v make_v and_o less_o to_o bring_v any_o of_o they_o as_o delinquent_n to_o the_o bar_n as_o now_o a_o day_n nor_o can_v they_o obtain_v that_o but_o their_o sergeant_n come_v to_o the_o counter_a find_v resistance_n the_o top_n of_o his_o mace_n be_v break_v off_o his_o man_n knock_v down_o and_o he_o glad_a to_o get_v off_o without_o the_o prisoner_n so_o back_o he_o come_v to_o the_o house_n yet_o sit_v and_o make_v his_o complaint_n they_o present_o all_o rise_n with_o their_o speaker_n come_v up_o to_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n and_o the_o speaker_n make_v the_o complaint_n to_o sir_n thomas_n audley_n lord_n chancellor_n sit_v on_o the_o wooll-sack_n the_o lord_n judge_v the_o contempt_n to_o be_v very_o great_a and_o refer_v the_o punishment_n of_o it_o to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o then_o indeed_o they_o return_v to_o their_o house_n and_o send_v for_o the_o sheriff_n of_o london_n the_o clerk_n of_o the_o counter_a all_o the_o officer_n there_o that_o have_v a_o part_n in_o the_o fray_n with_o their_o sergeant_n one_o white_a at_o who_o suit_n ferrer_n be_v arrest_v and_o the_o bailiff_n that_o do_v arrest_v he_o all_o to_o appear_v personal_o before_o they_o at_o eight_o of_o the_o clock_n next_o morning_n and_o when_o they_o come_v they_o send_v some_o of_o they_o to_o the_o tower_n some_o to_o newgate_n where_o they_o continue_v till_o they_o be_v deliver_v at_o the_o suit_n of_o the_o lord_n major_n we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o before_o this_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o commit_v any_o body_n no_o not_o for_o the_o breach_n of_o their_o privilege_n nor_o be_v themselves_o so_o much_o as_o judge_n of_o the_o election_n of_o their_o member_n but_o be_v fain_o to_o come_v up_o to_o the_o lord_n and_o pray_v their_o aid_n to_o
of_o their_o not_o judge_v commoner_n be_v apparent_o prove_v by_o the_o constant_a practice_n of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n in_o all_o succeed_a time_n and_o one_o thing_n more_o will_v be_v take_v notice_n of_o in_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n at_o that_o time_n after_o their_o precipitate_a and_o illegal_a condemnation_n of_o those_o person_n without_o ever_o call_v they_o to_o answer_v the_o earl_n of_o march_n a_o peer_n of_o the_o realm_n be_v condemn_v and_o execute_v as_o well_o as_o the_o commoner_n and_o this_o be_v look_v upon_o as_o a_o precedent_n of_o ill_a consequence_n for_o the_o peerage_n and_o therefore_o they_o will_v have_v a_o law_n to_o prevent_v it_o and_o that_o the_o noble_n of_o the_o land_n shall_v not_o be_v put_v to_o answer_v but_o in_o open_a parliament_n by_o their_o peer_n which_o they_o long_o endeavour_v before_o they_o can_v obtain_v it_o so_o as_o in_o 15._o ed._n 3._o n._n 6._o they_o adjourn_v the_o parliament_n several_a day_n upon_o that_o point_n and_o at_o last_o appoint_v four_o earl_n four_z bishop_n four_o baron_n to_o draw_v it_o up_o into_o form_n and_o get_v it_o pass_v into_o a_o act_n but_o two_o year_n after_o the_o king_n get_v that_o act_n to_o be_v repeal_v and_o so_o far_o they_o likewise_o take_v care_n of_o commoner_n in_o that_o parliament_n of_o 15._o ed._n 3._o as_o to_o have_v it_o enact_v also_o that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v impeach_v by_o commandment_n without_o process_n of_o law_n these_o be_v act_n of_o parliament_n and_o law_n which_o do_v bind_v but_o the_o other_o of_o their_o judge_a none_n but_o peer_n be_v a_o mere_a particular_a order_n of_o the_o house_n a_o agreement_n betwixt_o the_o king_n &_o they_o which_o be_v no_o way_n bind_v to_o posterity_n and_o alterable_a still_o at_o pleasure_n by_o the_o same_o house_n that_o make_v it_o another_o battery_n raise_v by_o that_o author_n against_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n be_v from_o the_o statute_n of_o appeal_n 1_o h._n 4._o c._n 14._o and_o with_o that_o he_o will_v overthrow_v the_o force_n of_o that_o precedent_n of_o john_n hall_n condemn_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o that_o first_o year_n of_o h._n 4._o for_o the_o death_n of_o the_o duke_n of_o gloucester_n in_o the_o 21_o of_o r._n 2._o as_o if_o that_o power_n be_v now_o take_v from_o they_o by_o that_o act_n and_o that_o the_o commons_o by_o it_o have_v take_v care_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o do_v by_o they_o any_o more_o for_o so_o he_o say_v p._n 23._o which_o by_o his_o leave_n concern_v nothing_o the_o proceed_n against_o hall_n and_o will_v less_o i_o may_v say_v concern_v the_o present_a question_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o this_o house_n of_o lord_n in_o the_o case_n of_o skinner_n for_o that_o statute_n provide_v only_o for_o trial_n of_o appeal_n where_o a_o private_a person_n next_o of_o kin_n be_v or_o shall_v be_v prosecutor_n which_o be_v not_o in_o hall_n case_n the_o prosecution_n be_v in_o the_o ordinary_a way_n at_o the_o king_n suit_n it_o be_v true_a that_o in_o the_o 21_o of_o r._n 2._o a_o horrible_a abuse_n have_v be_v in_o point_n of_o appeal_n certain_a lord_n not_o by_o law_n capable_a of_o it_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o be_v appellant_n and_o in_o their_o own_o name_n acouse_v in_o parliament_n several_a person_n peer_n of_o the_o realm_n and_o commoner_n of_o divers_a treason_n and_o murder_n make_v themselves_o judge_n and_o party_n and_o condemn_v they_o to_o die_v without_z nay_o against_o all_o form_n of_o law_n &_o rule_v of_o justice_n by_z which_o mean_v many_o innocent_a man_n lose_v both_o life_n and_o estate_n this_o it_o be_v that_o be_v provide_v for_o by_o that_o statute_n and_o care_v take_v it_o shall_v be_v so_o no_o more_o not_o the_o ordinary_a prosecution_n of_o offender_n in_o the_o king_n name_n as_o hall_n be_v though_o one_o particular_a in_o that_o trial_n be_v confess_v to_o have_v be_v most_o irregular_a and_o illegal_a which_o be_v examine_v he_o against_o himself_o upon_o oath_n but_o that_o be_v not_o material_a to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n which_o be_v whether_o the_o statute_n of_o appeal_n forbid_v such_o trial_n as_o assure_o it_o do_v not_o nor_o any_o of_o those_o former_o instance_a in_o to_o have_v pass_v in_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n and_o least_o of_o all_o can_v it_o concern_v the_o late_a proceed_n in_o the_o business_n of_o skinner_n and_o the_o east_n india_n company_n in_o which_o there_o be_v no_o charge_n either_o of_o treason_n or_o felony_n where_o a_o appeal_n only_o can_v take_v place_n to_o bring_v it_o within_o that_o statute_n in_o the_o same_o 23d_o page_n a_o other_o argument_n be_v use_v against_o this_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o peer_n in_o which_o that_o author_n have_v certain_o miss_v his_o mark_n for_o nothing_o can_v be_v produce_v that_o make_v more_o for_o that_o jurisdiction_n he_o say_v that_o the_o subject_a of_o england_n have_v moderate_v parliament_n and_o by_o express_a word_n determine_v that_o some_o thing_n can_v be_v do_v in_o parliament_n as_o that_o any_o shall_v be_v impeach_v there_o of_o that_o concern_v his_o francktenement_n or_o hereditament_n and_o vouch_v for_o his_o authority_n rot._n parl._n 10._o h._n 6._o n._n 35._o where_o indeed_o there_o be_v such_o a_o desire_n of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o that_o none_o shall_v be_v compel_v to_o answer_v in_o parliament_n concern_v his_o francktenement_n but_o let_v he_o tell_v we_o how_o they_o speed_v with_o their_o desire_n if_o their_o petition_n be_v grant_v to_o make_v it_o a_o law_n and_o bind_v far_o from_o it_o the_o answer_n be_v le_fw-fr roy_fw-fr saduisera_fw-la the_o king_n will_v advise_v which_o in_o parliamentary_a language_n be_v a_o flat_a denial_n so_o than_o no_o alteration_n be_v make_v of_o what_o be_v former_o the_o usage_n and_o power_n of_o parliament_n but_o all_o continue_a as_o it_o be_v before_o and_o that_o before_o they_o do_v in_o parliament_n try_v and_o judge_v such_o matter_n be_v apparent_a by_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o commons_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o hereafter_o for_o if_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v their_o desire_n it_o shall_v be_v no_o more_o so_o be_v ridiculous_a but_o it_o be_v so_o it_o seem_v and_o their_o desire_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v alter_v be_v reject_v leave_v it_o in_o the_o same_o state_n it_o be_v that_o the_o parliament_n may_v continue_v still_o to_o do_v it_o and_o by_o the_o parliament_n in_o these_o case_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v only_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n for_o there_o single_o lie_v the_o judicial_a power_n as_o be_v confess_v and_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o themselves_o 1._o h._n 4._o n._n 79._o so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o record_n but_o in_o the_o exact_a abridgement_n it_o be_v n._n 80._o that_o all_o judgement_n appertain_v to_o the_o king_n and_o lord_n and_o not_o to_o they_o but_o when_o out_o of_o especial_a grace_n some_o be_v communicate_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o they_o there_o desire_v that_o the_o record_n may_v be_v so_o enter_v as_o they_o may_v not_o be_v make_v party_n to_o they_o so_o careful_a they_o be_v then_o not_o to_o seem_v to_o encroach_v upon_o that_o power_n and_o whereas_o the_o author_n of_o that_o pamphlet_n will_v make_v a_o difference_n upon_o the_o personal_a presence_n of_o the_o king_n in_o those_o time_n in_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n that_o though_o they_o may_v do_v it_o then_o in_o some_o case_n it_o follow_v not_o the_o lord_n may_v do_v it_o alone_o the_o king_n not_o there_o it_o be_v but_o a_o fancy_n of_o he_o make_v a_o difference_n where_o in_o truth_n there_o be_v none_o i_o have_v prove_v it_o before_o that_o the_o court_n be_v the_o same_o be_v the_o king_n present_a or_o absent_a the_o king_n in_o person_n can_v judge_v no_o man_n nor_o dispose_v of_o no_o man_n life_n or_o estate_n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o maxim_n that_o the_o king_n can_v do_v no_o wrong_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o he_o of_o himself_o and_o by_o his_o own_o particular_a and_o personal_a authority_n can_v give_v away_o no_o man_n right_n no_o not_o any_o one_o pretend_v right_a where_o a_o man_n have_v only_o a_o possession_n though_o without_o right_n the_o king_n alone_o in_o propria_fw-la persona_fw-la can_v give_v no_o rule_n in_o it_o but_o it_o must_v be_v try_v in_o one_o of_o his_o court_n and_o his_o judge_n and_o minister_n who_o he_o entrust_v with_o his_o regal_a power_n that_o with_o which_o he_o be_v himself_o invest_v in_o his_o politic_a capacity_n and_o which_o he_o convey_v to_o they_o make_v they_o thereby_o the_o dispenser_n of_o his_o royal_a justice_n unto_o all_o his_o subject_n they_o must_v be_v
the_o person_n that_o do_v the_o wrong_n if_o any_o be_v do_v it_o be_v curia_fw-la regis_fw-la that_o do_v it_o and_o not_o the_o king_n though_o he_o sit_v in_o court_n in_o person_n and_o so_o the_o stile_n be_v videtur_fw-la curioe_n and_o the_o plea_n common_o end_v with_o this_o declaration_n of_o the_o party_n hoc_fw-la paratus_fw-la sum_fw-la verificare_fw-la pro_fw-la at_o curia_fw-la ordinaverit_fw-la and_o when_o mention_n be_v of_o any_o thing_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o form_n of_o proceed_v non_fw-la sic_fw-la in_o curia_fw-la ista_fw-la usitatum_fw-la est_fw-la be_v the_o expression_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o 18._o e._n 1._o so_o much_o insist_v upon_o by_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o so_o have_v it_o be_v in_o all_o time_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o court_n to_o which_o the_o law_n require_v obedience_n when_o henry_n the_o three_o will_v have_v his_o brother_n richard_n duke_n of_o cornwall_n confirm_v the_o grant_n of_o a_o manor_n to_o one_o waleran_n a_o german_a to_o who_o king_n john_n have_v give_v it_o and_o which_o the_o duke_n of_o cornwall_n say_v belong_v to_o his_o duchy_n of_o cornwall_n and_o have_v therefore_o take_v possession_n of_o it_o his_o answer_n be_v that_o he_o be_v willing_a curioe_n regioe_v subire_fw-la judicium_fw-la &_o magnatum_fw-la regni_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n in_o parliament_n and_o when_o the_o king_n say_v angry_o to_o he_o he_o shall_v then_o quit_v the_o kingdom_n it_o he_o will_v not_o deliver_v up_o the_o manor_n his_o reply_n as_o matthew_n paris_n record_v it_o be_v quod_fw-la nec_fw-la walerano_n jus_fw-la suum_fw-la redderet_fw-la nec_fw-la sine_fw-la judicio_fw-la parium_n fourum_fw-la e_fw-la regno_fw-la exiret_fw-la he_o will_v neither_o quit_v his_o right_n nor_o the_o kingdom_n but_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n such_o difference_n be_v then_o make_v betwixt_o the_o king_n personal_a command_n and_o a_o order_n of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n in_o dispose_v of_o man_n right_n which_o make_v it_o very_o apparent_a that_o the_o king_n personal_a presence_n can_v not_o add_v any_o thing_n to_o or_o make_v any_o alteration_n in_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o any_o court._n but_o enough_o of_o this_o especial_o consider_v what_o be_v say_v before_o upon_o the_o same_o subject_a some_o other_o evasion_n i_o find_v in_o that_o book_n to_o elude_v the_o lord_n judicature_n and_o take_v off_o the_o force_n of_o some_o precedent_n which_o have_v be_v cite_v in_o maintenance_n of_o it_o which_o i_o think_v be_v but_o evasion_n and_o work_v no_o great_a effect_n as_o that_o of_o the_o banishment_n of_o alice_n perrer_n or_o pierce_n which_o that_o author_n will_v prove_v to_o have_v rise_v from_o the_o commons_o and_o to_o have_v be_v at_o their_o petition_n because_o walsingham_n a_o cloister_a monk_n say_v so_o contrary_a to_o the_o record_n in_o the_o tower_n where_o he_o find_v no_o such_o thing_n where_o certain_o it_o will_v not_o have_v be_v omit_v have_v it_o be_v so_o that_o be_v so_o essential_a a_o part_n of_o a_o transaction_n of_o parliament_n that_o it_o can_v not_o have_v be_v leave_v out_o by_o the_o clerk_n in_o the_o journal_n book_n and_o whereas_o to_o fortify_v walsingham_n testimony_n he_o say_v he_o then_o live_v as_o if_o he_o have_v be_v testis_fw-la ocularis_fw-la i_o doubt_v much_o if_o he_o be_v then_o bear_v or_o so_o young_a he_o must_v have_v be_v that_o he_o can_v little_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o passage_n of_o the_o time_n for_o baloeus_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr scriptoribus_fw-la britanicis_n say_v he_o flourish_v in_o the_o year_n 1440._o under_o henry_n the_o six_o when_o he_o die_v we_o know_v not_o but_o have_v he_o die_v then_o or_o soon_o after_o he_o must_v have_v be_v sixty_o three_o year_n old_a if_o so_o be_v he_o be_v in_o the_o world_n when_o alice_n pierce_n be_v banish_v for_o the_o judgement_n of_o alice_n pierce_n be_v the_o first_o year_n of_o richard_n the_o second_o which_o be_v in_o 1377._o so_o as_o what_o he_o write_v can_v be_v but_o by_o hearsay_n which_o be_v observe_v by_o i_o only_o to_o show_v what_o weak_a proof_n that_o author_n bring_v to_o make_v good_a his_o assertion_n and_o show_v the_o badness_n of_o his_o cause_n not_o that_o i_o think_v it_o at_o all_o material_a to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n whether_o or_o no_o it_o be_v at_o the_o request_n of_o the_o commons_o that_o alice_n pierce_n be_v judge_v by_o the_o lord_n which_o will_v not_o at_o all_o evince_n what_o he_o will_v infer_v upon_o it_o that_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n have_v not_o of_o itself_o cognisance_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o a_o commoner_n nor_o can_v judge_v he_o for_o a_o offence_n whether_o capital_a or_o of_o a_o lesser_a nature_n but_o that_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o make_v it_o their_o desire_n qualify_v they_o for_o it_o which_o be_v a_o strong_a argument_n of_o the_o contrary_a and_o prove_v that_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o do_v thereby_o acknowledge_v their_o judicature_n for_o ridiculous_a it_o be_v to_o think_v that_o any_o act_n of_o that_o house_n can_v create_v a_o new_a power_n in_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n which_o it_o have_v not_o in_o itself_o before_o and_o which_o afterward_o must_v cease_v till_o it_o please_v the_o house_n of_o commons_o to_o give_v again_o a_o new_a life_n and_o be_v to_o it_o as_o if_o the_o house_n of_o lord_n be_v but_o a_o property_n which_o can_v move_v of_o itself_o to_o have_v the_o verse_n say_v of_o it_o ducitur_fw-la ut_fw-la nervis_fw-la alienis_fw-la mobile_a lignum_fw-la i_o be_o sure_a it_o have_v not_o be_v so_o heretofore_o nor_o do_v i_o think_v the_o house_n of_o commons_o will_v own_v that_o author_n opinion_n and_o so_o the_o judgement_n of_o hall_n for_o the_o death_n of_o the_o duke_n of_o gloucester_n that_o too_o forsooth_o must_v be_v at_o the_o request_n of_o the_o commons_o and_o so_o be_v a_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o the_o proof_n for_o it_o be_v that_o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o roll_n they_o thank_v the_o king_n for_o his_o just_a judgement_n but_o if_o the_o gentleman_n will_v have_v peruse_v the_o whole_a roll_n he_o will_v easy_o have_v be_v satisfy_v that_o the_o thanks_o of_o the_o commons_o relate_v not_o to_o hall_n condemnation_n but_o to_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o king_n and_o house_n of_o peer_n against_o sir_n william_n le_fw-fr scroop_n sir_n henry_n green_n and_o sir_n john_n bussy_n who_o have_v be_v active_a for_o richard_n the_o second_o and_o be_v look_v upon_o as_o principal_a author_n of_o the_o miscarriage_n of_o his_o reign_n for_o at_o the_o request_n of_o the_o commons_o the_o lord_n confirm_v a_o judgement_n former_o give_v against_o they_o in_o some_o of_o the_o king_n court_n not_o in_o parliament_n and_o the_o king_n declare_v that_o though_o he_o take_v the_o forfeiture_n of_o their_o estate_n according_a to_o the_o sentence_n give_v upon_o they_o yet_o he_o understand_v not_o there_o shall_v be_v by_o it_o any_o infringement_n of_o the_o statute_n which_o say_v that_o no_o man_n estate_n shall_v be_v forfeit_v after_o his_o death_n who_o have_v not_o be_v convict_v whilst_o live_v for_o these_o person_n he_o say_v have_v be_v so_o convict_v whereupon_o the_o commons_o thank_v the_o king_n for_o his_o righteous_a judgement_n and_o thank_v god_n for_o give_v they_o such_o a_o king_n this_o have_v no_o relation_n at_o all_o to_o the_o business_n of_o hall_n and_o in_o the_o record_n it_o be_v a_o article_n by_o itself_o of_o what_o have_v pass_v in_o parliament_n another_o day_n so_o for_o the_o proceed_n against_o gomeniz_n and_o weston_n that_o too_o must_v be_v at_o the_o request_n of_o the_o commons_o and_o consequent_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n whereas_o the_o commons_o have_v only_o in_o general_a desire_a that_o all_o such_o as_o have_v deliver_v up_o any_o of_o the_o king_n fort_n and_o castle_n undue_o may_v be_v call_v to_o account_v for_o it_o in_o that_o parliament_n and_o be_v punish_v for_o it_o according_a to_o their_o demerit_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o lord_n who_o thereupon_o command_v the_o lieutenant_n of_o the_o tower_n to_o bring_v before_o they_o those_o two_o who_o be_v already_o in_o hold_n for_o their_o several_a fact_n in_o that_o kind_n who_o they_o try_v and_o condemn_v and_o proceed_v likewise_o against_o several_a other_o as_o cressingham_n spikesworth_n trevit_fw-la and_o many_o more_o guilty_a of_o the_o same_o crime_n who_o they_o convent_v before_o they_o and_o sentence_v some_o to_o death_n some_o to_o other_o punishment_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o their_o offence_n now_o i_o do_v ask_v if_o in_o common_a sense_n it_o can_v be_v construe_v that_o the_o commons_o be_v at_o all_o party_n in_o the_o prosecution_n