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A48454 The Christian mans triall, or, A trve relation of the first apprehension and severall examinations of Iohn Lilbvrne with his censure in Star-chamber, and the manner of his cruell whipping through the streets : whereunto is annexed his speech in the pillory, and their gagging of him : also the severe Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657.; Kiffin, William, 1616-1701.; Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657. Work of the beast. 1641 (1641) Wing L2089; ESTC R1513 44,603 44

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which hee replied and said in these words Come said he be not sad you are but fallen into the Knaves hands To which I said I am not sad in the least and for my falling into Knaves hands I verily beleeve without any questioning that which you have said And then he swore another Oath and said it was true enough So good Christian Reader take notice of thus much by the way that the Prelates and their Creatures are a company of Knaves by Boniragge his owne confession That night I was kept at Elamstedds house where I blesse God I was merry and cherefull and nothing at all danted at that which had befalne me And about twelve of the clocke the next day I was committed to the Gatehouse by Sir Iohn the Prelate of Canterburies Chancellour with others without any examination at all for sending of factious and fcandalous Bookes out of Holland into England And having not beene at the foresaid prison above three dayes I was removed by a Warrant from the Lords of the Counsell to the Fleet where I now remaine And after my being there some time I drew a Petition to the Lords of the Counsell for my liberty and their answer to it was that I should be examined before Sir Iohn Bankes the Kings Atturney The Coppy of which examination thus followes Vpon Tuesday the 14. of Ianuary 1637. I was had to Sir Ioh● Bank● the Atturney Generall's Chamber now Lord chiefe Justice of the 〈◊〉 of Pleas and was referred to be examined by Mr. 〈◊〉 his chi●●● Clerke And at our first comming together he did kindly intreat me and made me sit downe by him and put on my hat and began with me after this manner Mr. Lilburne what is your Christian name I said Iohn Did you live in London before you went into Holland Yes that I did Where Neare Londonstone With whom there With Mr. Thomas Hewson What Trade is he A dealer in Cloath I told him How long did you serve him About five yeares How came you to part After this manner I * perceiving my Master had an intention to desist his Trade I often moved him that I might have my liberty to provide for my selfe and at the last hee condescended unto it and so I went into the Country to have the consent of my friends and after that departed into Holland Where were you there At Rotterdam And from thence you went to Amsterdam Yes I was at Amsterdam What Bookes did you see in Holland Great store of Bookes for in every Bookesellers shop as I came in there were greate store of Bookes I know that but I aske you if you did see Dr. Bastwicks Answer to my Masters Information and a Book called his Letany yes I saw them there and if you please to goe thither you may buy an hundred of them at the Bookesellers if you have a minde to them Have you seene the Vnbishopping of Timothy and Titus the Lookingglasse and * a Breviate of the Bishops late proceedings Yes I have and those also you may have there if you please to send for them Who Printed all those Bookes I doe not know Who was at the charges of Printing of them Of that I am ignorant But did you not send over some of these Bookes I sent not any of them over Doe you know one Hargust there Yes I did see such a man Where did you see him I met with him one day accidentally at Amsterdam How oft did you see him there Twise upon one day But did not he send over Bookes If he did it is nothing to me for his doings is unknowne to me But he wrote a Letter over by your directions did he not What he writ I know no more than you But did you see him no where else there Yes I saw him at Rotterdam What conference had you with him Very little But why doe you aske me all these questions These are besides the matter of my imprisonment I pray come to the thing for which I am accused and imprisoned No these are not besides the businesse but doe belong to the thing for which you are imprisoned But doe you know of any that sent over any Bookes What other men did doth not belong to me to know or search into sufficient it is for me to looke well to my owne occasions Well here is the examination of one Edmond Chilington doe you know such a one Ye● How long have you beene acquainted with him A little before I went away but how long I doe not certainely know Doe you know one Iohn Wharton No Doe you not he is a Hot-presser I know him but I doe not well remember his other name How long have you beene acquainted with him And how came you acquainted I cannot well tell you How long doe you thinke I doe not know What speeches had you with Chillington since you came to Towne I am not bound to tell you But Sir as I said before why doe you aske me all these questions these are nothing pertinent to my imprisonment for I am not imprisoned for knowing and talking with such and such men But for sending over Bookes And therefore I am not willing to answer you to any more of these questions because I see you goe about by this examination to insnare mee for seeing the things for which I am imprisoned cannot be proved against me you would get other matter out of my examination and therefore i● you will not aske me about the thing laid to my charge I shall answer no more but if you will aske me of that I shall then answer you and doe answer that for the thing for which I am imprisoned which is for sending over Bookes I am cleare for I sent none And of any other matter that you have to accuse me of I know it is warrantable by the Law of God and I thinke by the Law of the Land that I may stand upon my just defence and not answer to your intergatorie and that my accusers ought to be brought face to face to justifie what they accuse me of And this is all the answer that for the present I am willing to make And if you aske me of any more things I shall answer you with silence At this he was exceeding angry and said There would be course taken with me to make me answer I told him I did not way what course they would take with me onely this I desire you to take notice of that I doe not refuse to answer out of any contempt but onely because I am ignorant what belongs to an examination for this is the first time that ever I was examined and therefore I am unwilling to answer to any importinent questions for feare that with my answer I may doe my selfe hurt This is not the way to get liberty I had thought you would have answered punctually that so you might have beene dispatched as shortly as might be So I have answered punctually to the