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A39967 The Lord Finch his speech in the House of Commons the 21 of December 1641 hee being then lord-keeper.; Speech in the House of Commons the 21 of December, 1640 Finch of Fordwich, John Finch, Baron, 1584-1660. 1641 (1641) Wing F1551D; ESTC R7418 6,587 16

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