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A26165 An answer to Mr. Molyneux his Case of Ireland's being bound by acts of Parliament in England, stated, and his dangerous notion of Ireland's being under no subordination to the parliamentary authority of England refuted, by reasoning from his own arguments and authorities. Cary, John, d. 1720?, attributed name.; Atwood, William, d. 1705?, attributed name. 1698 (1698) Wing A4167; ESTC R9464 73,026 218

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